Beautiful Women
While you can never sure on the Internet, and while it's always possible for particularly creative types to invent a believable character and then write as that character; some avatars and profiles are obviously pretty suspicious. There'll be what looks like a professional photograph and then there's a quickie profile that appears to be someone's attempt to create his version of a woman people would find attractive. ("I'm a Swedish super-model, 5' 10", from a wealthy family and with degrees in computer science, psychology, and sport fitness." - and then little else about the person. Then all the Hubs will about something in an area generally believed to have better earning potential.) The world is full of good looking people (women AND men) who are also intelligent and/or talented writers, so I don't doubt some avatars are real. Some, though, (particularly when considered with the profile) pretty much scream, "phony".
(I'm not really a transparent Earth, by the way, but I want my writing to attract any readers on its own - not because I am, of course, a super-model with ten, wide-ranging, degrees; including, of course, one in sports fitness.
)Er that's the same deal I made with my husband
. I can post, write hubs, etc. just not show my face or his for that matter.
Oh and to Max, not showing my picture here is my personal choice and mine alone (the same with everyone else who use 'fake' pics or avatars). You can take that as cowardice but I really don't care because as Justine said, you don't know everyone's circumstances here.Er, did I say I admit that I'm a coward? I just said 'you can take that as cowardice' but I never admitted to being one
. I think you'd better search the forums or the Internet for that matter and see why some people do not want to put up their real pics here.
Luv yah too! The puppy? ohhhh, she was getting real squishes that's why I pulled down her pic and replaced her with my niece, who is also verrrryyyyyyyyyyy 'squishable'
oh I see that.
my niece is quite squishy as well.
you coward!! hdig behind a squishy neice.
hey, what did you have good for dinner?
going to bed soon?
I made taco flavored cheese stuffed meatloaf and roasted garlic, petitte peas and broccoli rice..mmmfor once justine, hijacking would be a great idea here! or shall we just bull doze over
Hey myownworld, we should have done this an hour ago so that I can fill up the thread
. Now have to go to sleep. G'night beautiful! lol..sleep well...hope this thread doesn't come in your nightmares....! it is certainly my idea of one!
(frog, careful with that cup of coffee.....max threw up all over my lunch just a while ago!)
and there u go!!! someone finally said what we all wanted to!
I saw your previous avatar... if that was you, you do not need help!
pleasure is all mine, now I'll go read some of your stuff to see if you are just another pretty face or if you have one of those "brains"
well I fanned you anyway, that's how shallow I am
I fanned you all as I am as shallow as the water my ship is docked in
The picture you see in my avatar is really me ...
if a little warm around the pelvis
People only read my hubs because I'm so sexy!
Sometimes a great avatar can make people come back more often - I don't think many people put up their real pic mainly because they can find something better looking.. lol - no, really I think people are scared to put up their actual pic - plus it is the interntet - you can be anyone you want to be here - thats one of the beauties of it
hi pretty! (hugs)
why don't we both put up a pic of angelina jolie or gisele bunchan and see if it will draw more traffic?Actually, you would draw less myownworld ... You're already a good looker.
- thanks Yoshi....but now I'm beginning to think that's such a handicap!!!
(hmm...now why did i ever think to use my real pic....oh but wait....if i use an avatar, than i must definitely be 'ugly'! u see, according to max, we lose either way!)
(and well said pretty, and lol @ habee!)
- Maximus591posted 15 years ago
0Be cautious of attractive pictures.
Be even more cautious of the most attractive pictures. Especially female ones.
Being a good writer and being good looking are two qualities that seldom mesh together. Great writers are typically ugly and frequently fat (they get so little exercise from being sat on their toosh all day) and good looking females can't write.
Writers, deep down, want to be loved. Those with the most hubs want to be loved the most. And it's these who frequently have either a fake picture or have an overly stylsed representation of who they are as an avatar. These people may well be good writers, but they are also insecure and quite ugly. Some are even very ugly. Almost looking like zombies.
There ahve been studies you know...why do we have such set images of what female writers are like....and why so ready to question and doubt if they don't fit that preconceived notion? easy with the generalizations people!
Preconceived notions exist because well, they contain truths. Just like stereotypes. Stereotypes persist because they contain truths. It's the truth within the stereotype that gives a stereotype it's life.
Fat, ugly female writers with talent is a stereotype. Is it a harsh one? Not really. Because there are plenty of dismally unattractive females with rounded bodies who are gifted writers. The stereotype itself (fat females = good writers) is given momentum by the truth contained within the stereotype.Oh dear.
Your buttons haven't just been pressed but they are practically in overdrive! I can even see steam rising from them as I speak.
*Deep breath my dear* ... 1... 2... 3.... *exhale*
You do realise of course, the more forthright you become with your views the more it confirms my existing stereotypes.
Trust me, models who write, well, those who write successfully, don't exist. If they did, they would no longer be models. You can't have it all and then everything else as well. That's not how life works. What evolution gives with one hand it taketh away with the other. (haha). Models are pretty, they are models. Writers are fat, they are writers. There is seldom a crossover. Not all writers will be fat, those who aren't will be visually displeasing to the eye. (ugly)
Occasionally, very occasionally in fact - I'm even attempted to say never, but I'll cut you some slack and go with very occasionally - a svelte-like writer with irresistible glam looks will appear, but they simply don't appear in sufficient numbers to lay waste to my stereotypes. You know, I'm happy to be proved otherwise, but I know it won't happen. Is that my fault?where are u from??? wow, I can't believe the stereotypes that are imprinted on that brain of yours. 'writers are fat, those who aren't will be visually displeasing..." you are displaying a gross sense of bias. first, not all models are brain deficient. second, not all writers are fat. third, not all writers are visually displeasing to the eye.
whether someone wants to post an avatar of their real self, a celebrity or a dragon makes no difference, it doesn't signify any of your stereotypes. I am not fat, my avatar is me, I write and know other writers who are visually pleasing to the eye.
Jorie Graham at age approx. 45, winner of the Nobel prize for literature, and the National Book award.
Evidently, some of us weren't educated in the same circles.
Aha!
Finally, a quality post. And one worthy of my response. (Unlike all the pathetic tosh that went before)
However, your post is not perfect, it has some holes. Let me be so kind to point them out to you.
You're wrong to assume that character and ability isn't determined by outward appearance. Often, the way we look is a potent arbiter for the character that develops within. Being blighted by a poor external appearance (ie fat and ugly) will affect the character that is developed within. This 'developing' character may actually be a good charcater, a well rounded character and highly likeable. There is certainly a strong correlation between external ugliness and inner beauty. The external ugly knows from an early age that their appearance is unacceptable. This ugliness is compensated quite determinedly by developing the best inner character they can. Afterall, being both ugly on the outside and inside would leave the indivdual struggling in a difficult world.
Conversely, many beautiful people are bereft of depth and character. Their inner beauty has often bypassed them and set up shop in the body of a fat person. When you're beautiful on the outside, the need to develop your inner self becomes less important. Being beautiful in itself can open doors. The pressure to be more than a pretty face is not experienced if that pretty face can take you places that the fat person can only dream about.
In one sense, these are stereotypes. But they are stereotypes that endure. They endure because they contain truths. If they had no truths they would die. The truths sustain them.
This is no different to the stereotyped notion that there are far more fatty females who are dismally unattractive, yet who are successful writers, than slinky, sexy streamlined ones.I'd say you are on to something, yes,
. And I think the key is to the shallow aspect in his posts. Narcissism is a disorder, lol, but deep down I'm sure I'm sure he has the niggling idea of what motivates all this.
- u said it!
for a moment I almost thought I was back in the 18th century with all that talk of 'stereotypical truths'!! god...do we still have men who believe in all that crap?
Damn I'm hurt by this post, what you are saying is either I look like a troll, or my writing is cr*p
Does this mean I'm really an unloved zombie and not a much adored super-model? Oh, no. Don't tell me that...
I always thought writers were thin because they're "starving artists", stayed young looking because they don't get out in the wrinkle-making sun from one day to the next, had to stay in from one day to the next in order to avoid the adoring crowds that gather whenever anyone with movie-star looks sets foot outside his door, wrote with the idea of becoming rich in order to "give back to the world"; became even more strikingly rich, famous and good looking as a result of all this wonderfulness, and had the charmingly shy personalities of introverts. Doesn't Cabin Girl's picture prove all that?Is there a point in worrying about a comment from someone who has written a hub called " God lives up my anus ", methinks we have an attention seeker, doncha just hate those
ROFLMAO
Anyways I gotta go, I have rented out a great dvd " Fat Balding Zombie Female Writers ", or I may just watch the X-Factor.
Ditto your remark as far as my own avatar goes, my own picture, no airbrushing etc.
Yehey!
A fat lady who writes and who revels in her fatness! I salute you madam! Of course you do confirm my stereotypes. But hey, it's your honesty that's appreciated.
It's an honesty that fat female writers seldom fess up to.Are you sure you have the time to waste in order to know for sure ralwus? I bet you've better things to do
Can a woman who is beautiful write? Absolutely! Are people who don't post their avatars ugly? Absolutely not!
I'm told I'm a good looking guy but I don't post my real pic because I'm not here to get dates, I'm here to write.
Now, that's not to say that people who post their pic here are looking for a date, but if someone respects me it's because I write something intelligent (or funny) they can all relate to and not because they want to ogle my pic.
However, can someone who is a good looker post their own pic? If they want to be real about who they are, then I applaud that, and I don't see that as someone ploying for attention unless they do a whole picture hub on themselves.
I care nothing about the avatars and everything about the words behind them as pics can lie, but words inevitably speak the true inner core of a person's being.- Star Witnessposted 15 years ago0
Naomi Wolf, well-known feminist author. Known for her border-line glamor girl looks. So ... what does this have to do with the original topic? We are dealing with the mindset of why someone might want to post a false pic and not whether hubbers are models or not. Me thinks thou might be a troll, merely here to add insecurities to other hubbers and gloat over stirring up the pot.
You do fit the stereotypical role as you add nothing to the conversation other than to attack the insecurities of others and make them lose self worth. So, I think my stereotype analysis of you is very complete and I encourage you to prove my 'wateright' stereotype of you wrong by showing where you have posted something that helped add to someone's self worth rather than tearing it down.
So, are you really a troll or are you being unfairly stereotyped?Hahahah. Please excuse me while I pick myself up off the floor from laughing too much at your banality.
If you study my posts, they really are not direct personal attacks. A lot of clever thought goes into them (Obviously they are a bit too clever for you) <--- this is a direct personal attack, I just thought I should add that, so you are clear in your own mind the difference between a personal attack and my more analysed approach.Again ... so stereotypical ... I'm amazed at your predictability.
You stopped your assault on the women to attack me, thinking I would actually care. You see, I mind when you attack others I consider friends, but with many years of online forums ... well . you could say nothing that would ruffle my feathers ... unless you care to delve into the whole evolution thing, which I believe I am over.
I understand your need to stir up the pot, and now you only have me and CG to play ... let's see how you fair? Knowing my own stereotype, I already know that I will continue to allow you to assail me, allowing others to escape your snide comments.
But that's my plan, and you appear to be a willing participant.
- Louidam1posted 15 years ago0
Thanx hotboy you really got to read all about that virtual hole, be a good boy and you might get one for Xmas
maximus,
all of your so called facts are then stated as hypothesis?
a fact is something that is unquestionably, definitely, absolutely true.
a hypothesis is an idea that is being tested and investigated.
?? your facts are not true facts, nor will they ever be.
your hypothesis are your opinion only, try testing them.
you're not going to find them facts.
why would you want your 'facts' to be true???
they're are beautiful, gifted, talented women writers.
I suggest attending a writer's convention.- thank u habee....but as I said earlier, according to max my looks only prove that I can't write....so, i suppose I should use an avatar, which would then make him believe I'm hiding an 'ugly truth'!!! (plus, every woman here is lovely in my eyes.....but what makes them more so, is the power of their words...!)
Omg it gets worse, I just finished reading all about his sexploits with a virtual hole, don't ask, you really don't want to know but why this guy is even talking about writing is beyond me, god up his ass and poking a virtual hole, I am locking my bedroom door
Hes probably using it right now, I worry about the deviants this site attracts, my Mum warned me about the internet
I have ordered BadCo one for Xmas though
that's me on my avatar...
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