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Do you think this site has deteriorated?

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Eldritch Elegyposted 7 years ago
It was great when I joined, but now it's much slower (seems to be a lot less activity) and it seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here.

Some of my favorite hubbers still seem to be here, but that's pretty much the only reason I visit anymore.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Aw really? You mean no one wants to listen to you preaching?
  
  In that case - sure..........
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  John Kounoupisposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Heehee.... You took the words right out of my mouth.
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  lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  mine too
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  tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  and mine as well! but Mark always does !
  nice pic, lyrics !!
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  tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Good bye !!
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  pgrundyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  It's only a general impression and very subjective, but I think the internet has changed since I first joined HP. When I first came here, it wasn't that hard to get freelance work and everyone here seemed pretty friendly. I don't remember any trolls. (Maybe they were here but I just don't remember.)
  
  Now, it seems like everybody and their mother is trying to make a buck online and trying to sell you something so you can too, plus, HP has several resident trolls. By trolls I mean people who rarely write hubs and just lurk around the forums and the hubs of people they dislike to snark and snipe and generally degrade the atmosphere and make it a drag for everyone.
  
  But I don't know that that is unique to Hub Pages. I think it happens to all popular web sites after awhile. That's my perception anyway, for what it's worth.
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  lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  It's a shame you feel that way - do you know everyone on the site?
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  ryankettposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Having looked at your hubs, you dont seem like you could be happy with anything. It is hard to cater for everybody, especially emos. If somebody wants to believe that everything is deteriorating then nobody can change their perception, just dont let yourself stay on that downward spiral for too long.
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  Himitsu Shugishaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I just joined a couple of weeks ago, but I find that the interaction and feedback has been great. I'd be interested to read how some of the vets feel about what you wrote.
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  "seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here"
  
  Wow that is harsh! Find another website then if you don't like this one anymore.
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  blatvaposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I agree. That seems to be a vague insult to anyone who hasn't been on here as long as you. And yet, I almost have as many hubs as you!
  There's really no reason to get huffy. If you don't like their work, Then don't read it.
  
  Kinda solves your problem.
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  Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I'm assuming you mean the forums, rather than the whole site?
  
  When I first joined, pretty much the only people on the HubPages forums were Hubbers. For some reason, recently there's been an influx of people with no interest in Hubbing, who are just here for the forums. On some threads, they seem to have taken over from the Hubbers! I don't understand why that's the case and I think it's a shame, because it dilutes the writers' community. And all the nastiness means that Hubbers are more likely to stay away and get on with the job instead.
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  Pacal Votanposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Don't worry about what people said here. I think that some of them have misunderstood your post.
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Cagsilposted 7 years ago
I'm sorry you feel that way.
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  tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Well, she looks angry, doesn't she ?
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  lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  or constipated
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  tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  
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  Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I would be angry when constipated. Hasn't been a problem for me lately
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ryankettposted 7 years ago
Well it is certainly not slower, I have just achieved a record number of page views for the past 24 hours... over 5000. Hubpages traffic has constantly grown. You only have 23 hubs though, in 9 months, so you will be falling behind.... the web grows and grows, hubpages grows and grows, something like 100,000 new hubs in 2 months..... that represented 20% growth.... are you writing quick enough to retain your share of the traffic?

Not sure who you refer to with your other comments, but the forum is nothing but a small part of this site; so many hubbers publish but do not participate in the forums - much like you.
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Wow ryan you are really doing your homework 5,000 views in a day is great... I posted consistent views either and have some increase...
  
  Hi Craz, How is it going...
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  heya General! been a while since we've chatted lol going good for me...how about yourself?
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah it is, thats good you're doing fine... I'm doin well too...
  
  I just made a hub that is a tribute to your Dad feel free to read it if you have time.. i'll post the link to one of your hub...
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mega1posted 7 years ago
I'm sure I'M not the problem!
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Laura du Toitposted 7 years ago
Anything in life is what you put in and what you make of what is available. If you don't give much you can hardly expect much in return. I find I only get out of Hubpages, or any other site, the same amount as what I am prepared to put in.
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Eldritch Elegyposted 7 years ago
... hmm. This topic seems to have proven my point.
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  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this
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  Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Cagsil, I think you are proving her point - the original poster didn't say anything rude or nasty, she merely expressed her opinion. To be disparaging in return is completely uncalled for.
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  You had a point? really? I didn't see one expcet for you complaining about the people on here. Like someone else said start your own topic and see if anyone wants to join you. Of course after a remark like the one you made I doubt it.
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  drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I like it!
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Oh she did Pacal when she came back and wrote this.
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rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago
just remember, small minds discuss people.
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Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago
Seems to me if you are unhappy with the level of conversation on a forum then you should start a conversation that will live up to your standards.
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  Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Amen.
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  Pacal Votanposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  She wasn't talking about the forum.
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Actually Pacal she is talking about the forums
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  Pacal Votanposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  How do you know? I thought that someone who has 30 or so forum posts in 9 months might not know so much about the forums.
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Denno66posted 7 years ago
Thank God for small miracles....
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pgrundyposted 7 years ago
I think some of the replies are kind of harsh. Not everyone knows what they want from this site. It does have its ups and downs. And it does change. For example I've noticed in recent months more product-oriented hubs. I don't see that as good or bad, just different when compared to two years ago. So some people, they come here and like it, then things change, they don't like it anymore.

The internet is like that, not just Hub Pages. Sometimes I like it. Other times it gets on my nerves. I think it's normal to have those changing feelings about it. Tis site takes a lot of energy and effort and the payoff is not always obvious. You have to have a certain drive independent of what you get out of it in order to keep writing here.
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Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago
I do admit that I am annoyed that every thread on the religious forum ends up in the same arguments. No matter what the topic, it always ends up arguing about evolution or homosexuality.
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  rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  not only do they end up arguing, they end up hi-jacked. if someone wants to discuss something, let them discuss. if people aren't interested, then don't go in. why is that so hard to get?
  attention seeking...
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  pgrundyposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  That gets to me too. I only pop in here sporadically and it never lasts very long.
  
  On the other hand, when things got very ugly here in September and October the HP staff did crack down on some of the most aggressive offenders. Lots of wailing about it, but at least they did try to get people to be a little more decent to each other.
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Denno66posted 7 years ago
Exciting isn't it? Ugh. I couldn't get up enough enthusiasm to pull that one off, sorry.
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Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago
its getting like the Irish in there at the moment.
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Denno66posted 7 years ago
They're using cutlery now?
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Denno66posted 7 years ago
Hi Y'all!
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Denno? Is that really you? no sheep but you?
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  Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah, that's the real me.
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  drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  damnit! I miss the sheep!
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  Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Well, I'm glad for your sake
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  wow Denno. Nice pic
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  wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Ditto.
  
  Crazd, do we need to start a new fan club?
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  that's all you jen that's all you
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  Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Hmm, nice mug
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  wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Well, I added the mistletoe just today.
  
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  Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I am soooo inclined to do the holiday festive thingy
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  mistyhorizon2003posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Love your new image Denno, very cute
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  wyanjenposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Mistletoe is one of the few holiday traditions I hold sacred.
  
  I also participate in the office XMas party every year.
  Can't get away from it.
  
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Colebabieposted 7 years ago
Nope, cuz dre is still here!

(Just sendin' the love back your way )
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  drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  awww...(touched)
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h.a.borcichposted 7 years ago
The forums here are...intense. The religion forum threads do get hijacked and usually end up with the same few having the same perpetual arguments.

And other topics tend to be high emotion threads. They can quickly get very rough. Many opinions and diversity makes quite a stew.

There also is a bully type presence from time to time. If one of the "group" dislikes you, they will taunt ruthlessly. I have seen it play out repeatedly. They can be friendly when they want to, but very mean when they choose to be. Take it in stride. I do.

Those are just how the forum is now. Maybe it will change, maybe it won't. Just keep writing, I think you have good hubs:)
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beth811posted 7 years ago
So simple! If you don't like here anymore, have a graceful exit. Just don't make fuss about this site and hubbers here whom you labeled degradingly.
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ralwusposted 7 years ago
I don't know about some of these posters anymore. This is almost like home to me now. Family like with all the fuss and drama too. Where else could one find such beautiful people? hubbers are the bestest!
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Denno66posted 7 years ago
We do our best to achieve the least!
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h.a.borcichposted 7 years ago
There really are a good bunch of writers and hubs. I been dragging getting more hubs published...is it bad to publish like 4 or more in a day?
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Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago
Okay denno spill it! About your pic....are you looking over your shoulder because someone is sneaking up on ya or are you just up to no good?
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  Denno66posted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Always up to no good.
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  Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  Yep I nailed it!
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Denno66posted 7 years ago
I scare myself sometimes
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Mighty Momposted 7 years ago
Holiday festive thingy?
I want a holiday festive thingy!
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Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago
You did General? aa how sweet I'll have to read it and you might want to change dad to grandpa though...Papa means grandpa to me lol
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Crazdwriterposted 7 years ago
"and it seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here."
That is what tipped me off that she is talking about the forums.
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  Pacal Votanposted 7 years ago in reply to this
  I thought she was talking about new hubbers hubs. But you may be right. Hope she comes back to clarify.
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Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago
Ouch @small minded...

Gosh Ive never met/chatted to you before ,so I reckon you dont know me either

Please dont judge, but if ya want to- write a hub about it, and ya can bitch n whine about how mean ,small minded people are ,cuz Ive read a couple of those types of hubs and it seems to be cheaper than therapy...why I might even write one if I could just pull myself away from one of those other deterioting sites
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