Do you think this site has deteriorated?

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   Eldritch Elegyposted 13 years ago

   It was great when I joined, but now it's much slower (seems to be a lot less activity) and it seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here.
   
   Some of my favorite hubbers still seem to be here, but that's pretty much the only reason I visit anymore.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Aw really? You mean no one wants to listen to you preaching?
      
      In that case - sure..........

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         John Kounoupisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Heehee.... You took the words right out of my mouth.

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            lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            mine too

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               tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               and mine as well! but Mark always does !
               nice pic, lyrics !!

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Good bye !!

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      pgrundyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It's only a general impression and very subjective, but I think the internet has changed since I first joined HP. When I first came here, it wasn't that hard to get freelance work and everyone here seemed pretty friendly. I don't remember any trolls. (Maybe they were here but I just don't remember.)
      
      Now, it seems like everybody and their mother is trying to make a buck online and trying to sell you something so you can too, plus, HP has several resident trolls. By trolls I mean people who rarely write hubs and just lurk around the forums and the hubs of people they dislike to snark and snipe and generally degrade the atmosphere and make it a drag for everyone.
      
      But I don't know that that is unique to Hub Pages. I think it happens to all popular web sites after awhile. That's my perception anyway, for what it's worth.

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      lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It's a shame you feel that way - do you know everyone on the site?

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      ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Having looked at your hubs, you dont seem like you could be happy with anything. It is hard to cater for everybody, especially emos. If somebody wants to believe that everything is deteriorating then nobody can change their perception, just dont let yourself stay on that downward spiral for too long.

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      Himitsu Shugishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I just joined a couple of weeks ago, but I find that the interaction and feedback has been great. I'd be interested to read how some of the vets feel about what you wrote.

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      Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here"
      
      Wow that is harsh! Find another website then if you don't like this one anymore.

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         blatvaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I agree. That seems to be a vague insult to anyone who hasn't been on here as long as you. And yet, I almost have as many hubs as you!
         There's really no reason to get huffy. If you don't like their work, Then don't read it.
         
         Kinda solves your problem.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm assuming you mean the forums, rather than the whole site?
      
      When I first joined, pretty much the only people on the HubPages forums were Hubbers.  For some reason, recently there's been an influx of people with no interest in Hubbing, who are just here for the forums.  On some threads, they seem to have taken over from the Hubbers!  I don't understand why that's the case and I think it's a shame, because it dilutes the writers' community. And all the nastiness means that Hubbers are more likely to stay away and get on with the job instead.

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      Pacal Votanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Don't worry about what people said here. I think that some of them have misunderstood your post.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   I'm sorry you feel that way.

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, she looks angry, doesn't she ?
      

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         lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         or constipated

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            tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            

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            Bovine Currencyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I would be angry when constipated.  Hasn't been a problem for me lately

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   ryankettposted 13 years ago

   Well it is certainly not slower, I have just achieved a record number of page views for the past 24 hours... over 5000. Hubpages traffic has constantly grown. You only have 23 hubs though, in 9 months, so you will be falling behind.... the web grows and grows, hubpages grows and grows, something like 100,000 new hubs in 2 months..... that represented 20% growth.... are you writing quick enough to retain your share of the traffic?
   
   Not sure who you refer to with your other comments, but the forum is nothing but a small part of this site; so many hubbers publish but do not participate in the forums - much like you.

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      GeneralHowitzerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Wow ryan you are really doing your homework 5,000 views in a day is great... I posted consistent views either and have some increase...
      
      Hi Craz, How is it going...

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         Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         heya General! been a while since we've chatted lol going good for me...how about yourself?

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            GeneralHowitzerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah it is, thats good you're doing fine... I'm doin well too...
            
            I just  made a hub that is a tribute to your Dad feel free to read it if you have time.. i'll post the link to one of your hub...

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   mega1posted 13 years ago

   I'm sure I'M not the problem!

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   Laura du Toitposted 13 years ago

   Anything in life is what you put in and what you make of what is available. If you don't give much you can hardly expect much in return. I find I only get out of Hubpages, or any other site, the same amount as what I am prepared to put in.

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   Eldritch Elegyposted 13 years ago

   ... hmm. This topic seems to have proven my point.

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      Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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         Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Cagsil, I think you are proving her point - the original poster didn't say anything rude or nasty, she merely expressed her opinion.  To be disparaging in return is completely uncalled for.

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      Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You had a point? really? I didn't see one expcet for you complaining about the people on here. Like someone else said start your own topic and see if anyone wants to join you. Of course after a remark like the one you made I doubt it.

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         drej2522posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I like it!

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      Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Oh she did Pacal when she came back and wrote this.

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   rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

   just remember, small minds discuss people.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

   Seems to me if you are unhappy with the level of conversation on a forum then you should start a conversation that will live up to your standards.

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      Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Amen.

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      Pacal Votanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      She wasn't talking about the forum.

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         Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Actually Pacal she is talking about the forums

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            Pacal Votanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            How do you know? I thought that someone who has 30 or so forum posts in 9 months might not know so much about the forums.

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   Denno66posted 13 years ago

   Thank God for small miracles....

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    pgrundyposted 13 years ago

    I think some of the replies are kind of harsh. Not everyone knows what they want from this site. It does have its ups and downs. And it does change. For example I've noticed in recent months more product-oriented hubs. I don't see that as good or bad, just different when compared to two years ago. So some people, they come here and like it, then things change, they don't like it anymore.
    
    The internet is like that, not just Hub Pages. Sometimes I like it. Other times it gets on my nerves. I think it's normal to have those changing feelings about it. Tis site takes a lot of energy and effort and the payoff is not always obvious. You have to have a certain drive independent of what you get out of it in order to keep writing here.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    I do admit that I am annoyed that every thread on the religious forum ends up in the same arguments. No matter what the topic, it always ends up arguing about evolution or homosexuality.

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       rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       not only do they end up arguing, they end up hi-jacked. if someone wants to discuss something, let them discuss. if people aren't interested, then don't go in. why is that so hard to get?
       attention seeking...

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       pgrundyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That gets to me too. I only pop in here sporadically and it never lasts very long.
       
       On the other hand, when things got very ugly here in September and October the HP staff did crack down on some of the most aggressive offenders. Lots of wailing about it, but at least they did try to get people to be a little more decent to each other.

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    Exciting isn't it? Ugh. I couldn't get up enough enthusiasm to pull that one off, sorry.

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    Bovine Currencyposted 13 years ago

    its getting like the Irish in there at the moment.

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    They're using cutlery now?

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    Hi Y'all!

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       Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Denno? Is that really you? no sheep but you?

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          Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah, that's the real me.

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             drej2522posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             damnit! I miss the sheep!

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                Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Well, I'm glad for your sake

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             Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             wow Denno. Nice pic

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                wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Ditto.
                
                Crazd, do we need to start a new fan club?
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                   Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   that's all you jen that's all you

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                   Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Hmm, nice mug

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                      wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Well, I added the mistletoe just today.
                      
                      

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                         Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         I am soooo inclined to do the holiday festive thingy

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                            mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            Love your new image Denno, very cute

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                            wyanjenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            Mistletoe is one of the few holiday traditions I hold sacred.
                            
                            I also participate in the office XMas party every year.
                            Can't get away from it.
                            
                            

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    Colebabieposted 13 years ago

    Nope, cuz dre is still here!
    
    (Just sendin' the love back your way )

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       drej2522posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       awww...(touched)

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    h.a.borcichposted 13 years ago

    The forums here are...intense. The religion forum threads do get hijacked and usually end up with the same few having the same perpetual arguments.
    
      And other topics tend to be high emotion threads. They can quickly get very rough. Many opinions and diversity makes quite a stew.
    
      There also is a bully type presence from time to time. If one of the "group" dislikes you, they will taunt ruthlessly. I have seen it play out repeatedly. They can be friendly when they want to, but very mean when they choose to be. Take it in stride. I do.
    
      Those are just how the forum is now. Maybe it will change, maybe it won't. Just keep writing, I think you have good hubs:)

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    beth811posted 13 years ago

    So simple! If you don't like here anymore, have a graceful exit. Just don't make fuss about this site and hubbers here whom you labeled  degradingly.

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    ralwusposted 13 years ago

    I  don't know about some of these posters anymore. This is  almost like home to me now. Family like with all the fuss and drama too. Where else could one find such beautiful people? hubbers are the bestest!

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    We do our best to achieve the least!

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    h.a.borcichposted 13 years ago

    There really are a good bunch of writers and hubs. I been dragging getting more hubs published...is it bad to publish like 4 or more in a day?

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    Crazdwriterposted 13 years ago

    Okay denno spill it! About your pic....are you looking over your shoulder because someone is sneaking up on ya or are you just up to no good?

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       Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Always up to no good.

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          Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yep I nailed it!

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    I scare myself sometimes

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    Holiday festive thingy?
    I want a holiday festive thingy!

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    Crazdwriterposted 13 years ago

    You did General? aa how sweet I'll have to read it and you might want to change dad to grandpa though...Papa means grandpa to me lol

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    Crazdwriterposted 13 years ago

    "and it seems there are a lot more small-minded big-mouthed kids here."
    That is what tipped me off that she is talking about the forums.

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       Pacal Votanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I thought she was talking about new hubbers hubs. But you may be right. Hope she comes back to clarify.

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    Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago

    Ouch @small minded...
    
    Gosh Ive never met/chatted to you before ,so I reckon you dont know me either
    
    
    Please dont judge, but if ya want to- write a hub about it, and ya can bitch n whine about how mean ,small minded people are ,cuz Ive read a couple of those types of hubs and it seems to be cheaper than therapy...why I might even write one if I could just pull myself away from one of those other deterioting sites 

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