switch from "Fan" to "Follower"

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  1. Jason Menayan profile image59
    Jason Menayanposted 13 years ago

    Thank you for all the comments.  We are reading them. We have some features that are going to be released soon that we thought it made more sense to use the term follow since there is more familiarity with the term follow on the web (with Twitter and Google Wave, for example) than fan.

    We wanted one term that works for topics and people.  As an example, we felt it was better to follow the topic bladder cancer than to be a fan of bladder cancer. 

    Thanks again for all the feedback.

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      cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      big_smile good thinking! wink

    2. KCC Big Country profile image84
      KCC Big Countryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hmmmmm..."features that are going to be released soon"......sounds like fun.....can't wait to see what they'll be.  smile

    3. nekros729 profile image60
      nekros729posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm a fan of bladder cancer! =P

    4. Neil Sperling profile image61
      Neil Sperlingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      A Rose smells like a rose no matter what you call it!

    5. salt profile image60
      saltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      interesting choice of topics, bladder cancer,... any light reading available???

      1. Dao Hoa profile image59
        Dao Hoaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I did not think about it smile smile smile

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      Ghost32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'll never not hate it.  It definitely does NOT work for me.

      1. Dao Hoa profile image59
        Dao Hoaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Aw! Hate is a strong word. Do give it a try! smile

    7. darkside profile image67
      darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm wondering if both terms should be used. So when we talk about 'fans' we know it's about people, and when the term 'follow' is mentioned we know it's referring to topics.

      A one size fits all term might not work as well as using both to describe two different distinct functions.

    8. h.a.borcich profile image59
      h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I am not bent out of shape over fans or followers, actually I like it that we can "follow" a topic instead of being a fan of.

      What I think is amazing is your choice to point that out...
      BLADDER CANCER! It is real and it is deadly - I know! More women will die this year from bladder cancer than from cervical cancer...

        Please read up on it - know the signs and save your life:)

        Holly, (trying to survive stage 3b high grade invasive)

      1. h.a.borcich profile image59
        h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry to be intense about this...but for whatever reason the OP had for using bladder cancer as an example - I will take it as an opportunity to advocate.

          Even if you never smoked ciggarettes you should know this cancer is the 5th leading cancer and is deadly! Holly

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      Justine76posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      glad to know there was a reason. ever since someones page told me to quit following them, ive been good with it. besides, dont we all have hubs to write?

    10. starme77 profile image80
      starme77posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Makes sense to me , thats why you guys do what  you do so well, ya think things through a bit LOL smile Thanks

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      KellyEngaldoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I was trying to figure this difference out - thank you very much!

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      BookFlameposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Very funny riposte!

    13. Ralph Deeds profile image69
      Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That's a good change. I,m a "follower" of several hubbers of which the term "fan" isn't an accurate description.

      1. susanlang profile image61
        susanlangposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Hey there Ralph.. I like the new look you have a sharp lookin hat on smile

    14. ramkkasturi profile image61
      ramkkasturiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I am wondering if  I should publish a new  one or not. To my surprise what I have  posted  yesterday morning (India time),stayed on zeros in all columns. This is the first time I am seeing this ! Got worried. Kindly let me know. I am new just started 10 days ago !!. Thanks.

    15. susanlang profile image61
      susanlangposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      bladder cancer has one fan, the grave yard and I know too many people who joined it.  Maybe I'll do a story on cancer next week..Hmm.  In any case.. I do agree with you on the change from fan to follower. Smart !

  2. Cagsil profile image72
    Cagsilposted 13 years ago

    Thank you for the explanation. Greatly appreciated. big_smile

  3. Marisa Wright profile image87
    Marisa Wrightposted 13 years ago

    Thanks Jason - it makes a lot more sense now we understand the same term will be used for topics as well as people. I couldn't understand what all the angst was about anyway!

  4. Black Lilly profile image60
    Black Lillyposted 13 years ago

    Thank you wink

    With regards to bladder cancer... I'm now FOLLOWED by Bad Company and FOLLOWING Bad Company...
    Makes sense anyway big_smile

  5. wavegirl22 profile image50
    wavegirl22posted 13 years ago

    I guess with that explanation is makes sense. . It sure made for a lot of chatter around the Hub today . .but I think I still like the "fan" more than the "follower"

  6. mel22 profile image60
    mel22posted 13 years ago

    Thanks for the reason. Gee, a little goof off post in the HubberHangout and people sure had lots to say.

    1. habee profile image93
      habeeposted 13 years ago

      What? No fans for bladder cancer?

      1. Lisa HW profile image63
        Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Not I - and not a follower of bladder cancer either.

    2. Hmrjmr1 profile image69
      Hmrjmr1posted 13 years ago

      Well all I have to say is AllllRighty Then!

    3. Jeffrey Neal profile image70
      Jeffrey Nealposted 13 years ago

      Thanks Jason!  An explanation certainly helps one to understand.  So you're totally against "subscriber"? wink

      No problem, I'm enjoying HubPages either way! smile Looking forward to the new features.

    4. tony0724 profile image60
      tony0724posted 13 years ago

      Is following anything like stalking ?

    5. Sybil Marie profile image60
      Sybil Marieposted 13 years ago

      Thanks for explaining! I can't wait to see what the other "features" are!

    6. Pearldiver profile image69
      Pearldiverposted 13 years ago

      I've always tended to look deeper at statements than some... I always consider What Is Not Being Said in relation to what is. hmm

      From the information given: It would appear that HP is actually 'Following' Twitter's intiatives as opposed to Leading The Market through HP's Unique Selling Position hmm

      Are Twitter Following HP in any respect? hmm

      1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image92
        mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Good point !!!

    7. barryrutherford profile image76
      barryrutherfordposted 13 years ago

      mmm The word has such a wide meaning...

      1. to go or come after in the same direction he followed his friend home
      2. (tr) to accompany; attend she followed her sister everywhere
      3. to come after as a logical or natural consequence
      4. (tr) to keep to the course or track of she followed the towpath
      5. (tr) to act in accordance with; obey to follow instructions
      6. (tr) to accept the ideas or beliefs of (a previous authority, etc.) he followed Donne in most of his teachings
      7. to understand (an explanation, argument, etc.) the lesson was difficult to follow
      8. to watch closely or continuously she followed his progress carefully
      9. (tr) to have a keen interest in to follow athletics
      10. (tr) to help in the cause of or accept the leadership of the men who followed Napoleon
      11. (tr) Rare to earn a living at or in to follow the Navy
      follow suit Cards
      a.  (Group Games / Card Games) to play a card of the same suit as the card played immediately before it
      b.  to do the same as someone else
      (Group Games / Billiards & Snooker) Billiards Snooker
      a.  a forward spin imparted to a cue ball causing it to roll after the object ball
      b.  a shot made in this way See also follow-on, follow out, follow through, follow up
      [Old English folgian; related to Old Frisian folgia, Old Saxon folgōn, Old High German folgēn]
      followable  adj

    8. Dao Hoa profile image59
      Dao Hoaposted 13 years ago

      "(tr) to accompany; attend she followed her sister everywhere"

      If you follow someone everywhere, you are a stalker. sad

      However, thank you Jason for the explanation. I am glad Admin is bringing even more features for us.

      1. pylos26 profile image71
        pylos26posted 13 years ago

        I am a follower of very few.

      2. Randy Godwin profile image60
        Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

        Why do we need "followers" anyway?  What purpose does it serve as many people "fan" (formerly) in binges expecting, or hoping, others will do the same for them?

        I saw one hubber today who has been here less than a dozen days and had over 250 "followers' with only a few hubs.  So, what good is this facet of the site?

        1. Dao Hoa profile image59
          Dao Hoaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I saw that too and wondered how did that person get that many "followers"? It made me want to "follow" that person and "learn" sad

          However, I also learned that another person posted a link in her thread and if you click on that link, you are automatically became her follower. That IS WRONG! Trickery! sad

      3. Rebecca E. profile image78
        Rebecca E.posted 13 years ago

        thanks for the explaination.

      4. Research Analyst profile image76
        Research Analystposted 13 years ago

        interesting concept indeed

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          Janettaposted 13 years ago

          yes, that does make more sense smile

        2. b4u2c profile image74
          b4u2cposted 13 years ago

          Although "followers" does makes sense in general, it also presents problems for the writers and readers of hubs on "religion". As a few other hubbers have inferred in this thread, would it be too complicated, confusing or difficult to use "fan" for people and "follower" for topics?

          1. camlo profile image86
            camloposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, I thought of that to. That a particular Topic has so and so many followers, but the Hubbers have Fans.

            I really do miss having Fans.

            Besides, I don't follow a particular Topic. I enjoy reading a wide range of subjects.

        3. Zsuzsy Bee profile image86
          Zsuzsy Beeposted 13 years ago

          Whats the big deal we are now following a person or topic instead of fanning a person or topic. hmm It's really just a word. Do you guys really give a flying fig if you're following or fanning?hmm The scalp hunters are going to be able to demand you follow them just as much as they can demand that you fan them...will it really make a difference which? 

          Mind you the silver lining here could be that while the discussions of that little change of term was happening few people fought and argued in any of the forum sites.lol

          Hubteam a big http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/29/29_3_16.gif's up for the continuously new and improved site (Jason how about a hint of what coming next?)

        4. aware profile image63
          awareposted 13 years ago

          at first it irked me but now im in agreement with bee.

        5. camlo profile image86
          camloposted 13 years ago

          Okay, I now understand why they did it, but I still prefer the word 'Fan'.

          And 'Fan' was quite unique to HubPages. I liked it very much.

          Hopefully, Fan-mail will remain Fan-mail, or has that changed, too, and I haven't noticed yet? 'Followers Mail'doesn't sound quite right, somehow.

        6. Jim.Jones profile image59
          Jim.Jonesposted 13 years ago

          Changing "fan" to "follower" is the best thing that ever happened at HubPages. This bickering needs to stop! Quit wasting your time in this forum and go become my follower, for we must escape this tyranny today!

          Zsuzsy Bee was almost right in his comment above, saying "It's really just a word", because your words do not matter, only mine do. So pack your bags, we are moving to Guyana!

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            A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Ill bring the Kool-aid

            1. Jim.Jones profile image59
              Jim.Jonesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Thank you Tex. Your generosity will be rewarded (and bring some sedatives, we need more sedatives).

              As for the rest of you, you too can be led. Click "Follow Jim.Jones". BE LED! FOLLOW ME!

        7. heart4theword profile image60
          heart4thewordposted 13 years ago

          I thought I noticed a change, but figured it was just my imagination.  Follower did make since when I signed up to be a new fan for someone:)  Thanks:)

        8. Elena. profile image84
          Elena.posted 13 years ago

          Would one of the new features be the ability to remove one's followers that are offensive or just plain spammers? big_smile

        9. lmmartin profile image70
          lmmartinposted 13 years ago

          I don't want followers. It has a new-age, cultish kind of feeling. i.e. Christ had followers: his disciples.

          I want my fans back. If someone is following me, I will call the police.

          Oh, one more question: do we now leave follower mail, instead of fan mail for someone whose work we enjoy.

        10. Patty Inglish, MS profile image88
          Patty Inglish, MSposted 13 years ago

          There's so much being added to HubPages that I can scarely "follow" it all, but I'll catch up. I really do like the term "follow" though.

        11. Glenn Stok profile image97
          Glenn Stokposted 13 years ago

          Well, after all is said and done, I DO like the word "following" better. I feel more comfortable saying "I'm following you" than I do saying "I'm fanning you."   Nevertheless, I'm a fan of my followers.

        12. profile image0
          Ghost32posted 13 years ago

          I'm still a Luddite with a few Grinch genes.

        13. bojanglesk8 profile image61
          bojanglesk8posted 13 years ago

          Cool story, bro.

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            lyricsingrayposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            big_smile cool

        14. Lita C. Malicdem profile image60
          Lita C. Malicdemposted 13 years ago

          "Fan" or "follow" or both suit me. It's great to discover new friendship at HubPages.

        15. profile image0
          lyricsingrayposted 13 years ago

          Cool. cool Thanks for the explanation Jason.

        16. profile image0
          shinujohn2008posted 13 years ago

          I too liked Fan Power more than followers

        17. compu-smart profile image90
          compu-smartposted 13 years ago

          I have to keep looking over my shoulder now!big_smile

        18. Metta's iPhone profile image57
          Metta's iPhoneposted 13 years ago

          Thanks for the clarification.  Never would have put the two together since I am a new hubber.

        19. Lita C. Malicdem profile image60
          Lita C. Malicdemposted 13 years ago

          Fan or follower suits me. Both do also. Thanks. I'm slowly graduating as new hubber because I have fans and followers who give me tips on hubbing.

        20. Richieb799 profile image65
          Richieb799posted 13 years ago

          I am starting a cult, anyone want to follow me? didnt some guy do a documentry on this? he sent out flyers asking people to join but he didnt tell anyone what it was about and still got lots of replies

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          msanandhposted 13 years ago

          Thanks for your info.

        22. khurram's world profile image61
          khurram's worldposted 13 years ago

          I don't mind fan or follower, both terms are ok but your explanation described it very well. Thanks again.

        23. PegCole17 profile image94
          PegCole17posted 13 years ago

          Ok, now that explains that. I was wondering when and why the fans changed into followers. Kinda liked the fan thing but I understand it doesn't go with some topics.

        24. pylos26 profile image71
          pylos26posted 13 years ago

          Is hubpages going religious cult…you know…with disciples and apostles and them lame sorts that form cults as “followers”…poor description of “fan”.

        25. Ben Zoltak profile image82
          Ben Zoltakposted 13 years ago

          Aha! I knew this subject would be somewhere on the Forums. Guess I can close the file on Fans v. Followers.

          "Are you employed Mr. Lebowski? One doesn't go out looking for a job on a weekday dressed like that!"

          "Weekday? Wait, what day is it?"

        26. bojanglesk8 profile image61
          bojanglesk8posted 13 years ago

          I like "follower" better.

        27. Internetwriter62 profile image83
          Internetwriter62posted 13 years ago

          I totally agree with you, there is a certain dignity to the word follower, that the word fan does not have. Unfortunately, the word fan has been associated with movies about sick, deranged weirdos, who are obsessive about the person, they admire and even stalk them. So I think it's a good change.


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