Thank you for all the comments. We are reading them. We have some features that are going to be released soon that we thought it made more sense to use the term follow since there is more familiarity with the term follow on the web (with Twitter and Google Wave, for example) than fan.
We wanted one term that works for topics and people. As an example, we felt it was better to follow the topic bladder cancer than to be a fan of bladder cancer.
Thanks again for all the feedback.
Hmmmmm..."features that are going to be released soon"......sounds like fun.....can't wait to see what they'll be.
A Rose smells like a rose no matter what you call it!
interesting choice of topics, bladder cancer,... any light reading available???
I'll never not hate it. It definitely does NOT work for me.
I'm wondering if both terms should be used. So when we talk about 'fans' we know it's about people, and when the term 'follow' is mentioned we know it's referring to topics.
A one size fits all term might not work as well as using both to describe two different distinct functions.
I am not bent out of shape over fans or followers, actually I like it that we can "follow" a topic instead of being a fan of.
What I think is amazing is your choice to point that out...
BLADDER CANCER! It is real and it is deadly - I know! More women will die this year from bladder cancer than from cervical cancer...
Please read up on it - know the signs and save your life:)
Holly, (trying to survive stage 3b high grade invasive)
Sorry to be intense about this...but for whatever reason the OP had for using bladder cancer as an example - I will take it as an opportunity to advocate.
Even if you never smoked ciggarettes you should know this cancer is the 5th leading cancer and is deadly! Holly
glad to know there was a reason. ever since someones page told me to quit following them, ive been good with it. besides, dont we all have hubs to write?
Makes sense to me , thats why you guys do what you do so well, ya think things through a bit LOL Thanks
I was trying to figure this difference out - thank you very much!
That's a good change. I,m a "follower" of several hubbers of which the term "fan" isn't an accurate description.
I am wondering if I should publish a new one or not. To my surprise what I have posted yesterday morning (India time),stayed on zeros in all columns. This is the first time I am seeing this ! Got worried. Kindly let me know. I am new just started 10 days ago !!. Thanks.
bladder cancer has one fan, the grave yard and I know too many people who joined it. Maybe I'll do a story on cancer next week..Hmm. In any case.. I do agree with you on the change from fan to follower. Smart !
Thanks Jason - it makes a lot more sense now we understand the same term will be used for topics as well as people. I couldn't understand what all the angst was about anyway!
With regards to bladder cancer... I'm now FOLLOWED by Bad Company and FOLLOWING Bad Company...
Makes sense anyway
I guess with that explanation is makes sense. . It sure made for a lot of chatter around the Hub today . .but I think I still like the "fan" more than the "follower"
Thanks for the reason. Gee, a little goof off post in the HubberHangout and people sure had lots to say.
Thanks Jason! An explanation certainly helps one to understand. So you're totally against "subscriber"?
No problem, I'm enjoying HubPages either way! Looking forward to the new features.
Thanks for explaining! I can't wait to see what the other "features" are!
I've always tended to look deeper at statements than some... I always consider What Is Not Being Said in relation to what is.
From the information given: It would appear that HP is actually 'Following' Twitter's intiatives as opposed to Leading The Market through HP's Unique Selling Position
Are Twitter Following HP in any respect?
mmm The word has such a wide meaning...
1. to go or come after in the same direction he followed his friend home
2. (tr) to accompany; attend she followed her sister everywhere
3. to come after as a logical or natural consequence
4. (tr) to keep to the course or track of she followed the towpath
5. (tr) to act in accordance with; obey to follow instructions
6. (tr) to accept the ideas or beliefs of (a previous authority, etc.) he followed Donne in most of his teachings
7. to understand (an explanation, argument, etc.) the lesson was difficult to follow
8. to watch closely or continuously she followed his progress carefully
9. (tr) to have a keen interest in to follow athletics
10. (tr) to help in the cause of or accept the leadership of the men who followed Napoleon
11. (tr) Rare to earn a living at or in to follow the Navy
follow suit Cards
a. (Group Games / Card Games) to play a card of the same suit as the card played immediately before it
b. to do the same as someone else
(Group Games / Billiards & Snooker) Billiards Snooker
a. a forward spin imparted to a cue ball causing it to roll after the object ball
b. a shot made in this way See also follow-on, follow out, follow through, follow up
[Old English folgian; related to Old Frisian folgia, Old Saxon folgōn, Old High German folgēn]
"(tr) to accompany; attend she followed her sister everywhere"
If you follow someone everywhere, you are a stalker.
However, thank you Jason for the explanation. I am glad Admin is bringing even more features for us.
Why do we need "followers" anyway? What purpose does it serve as many people "fan" (formerly) in binges expecting, or hoping, others will do the same for them?
I saw one hubber today who has been here less than a dozen days and had over 250 "followers' with only a few hubs. So, what good is this facet of the site?
I saw that too and wondered how did that person get that many "followers"? It made me want to "follow" that person and "learn"
However, I also learned that another person posted a link in her thread and if you click on that link, you are automatically became her follower. That IS WRONG! Trickery!
Although "followers" does makes sense in general, it also presents problems for the writers and readers of hubs on "religion". As a few other hubbers have inferred in this thread, would it be too complicated, confusing or difficult to use "fan" for people and "follower" for topics?
Whats the big deal we are now following a person or topic instead of fanning a person or topic. It's really just a word. Do you guys really give a flying fig if you're following or fanning? The scalp hunters are going to be able to demand you follow them just as much as they can demand that you fan them...will it really make a difference which?
Mind you the silver lining here could be that while the discussions of that little change of term was happening few people fought and argued in any of the forum sites.
Hubteam a big 's up for the continuously new and improved site (Jason how about a hint of what coming next?)
Okay, I now understand why they did it, but I still prefer the word 'Fan'.
And 'Fan' was quite unique to HubPages. I liked it very much.
Hopefully, Fan-mail will remain Fan-mail, or has that changed, too, and I haven't noticed yet? 'Followers Mail'doesn't sound quite right, somehow.
Changing "fan" to "follower" is the best thing that ever happened at HubPages. This bickering needs to stop! Quit wasting your time in this forum and go become my follower, for we must escape this tyranny today!
Zsuzsy Bee was almost right in his comment above, saying "It's really just a word", because your words do not matter, only mine do. So pack your bags, we are moving to Guyana!
I thought I noticed a change, but figured it was just my imagination. Follower did make since when I signed up to be a new fan for someone:) Thanks:)
Would one of the new features be the ability to remove one's followers that are offensive or just plain spammers?
I don't want followers. It has a new-age, cultish kind of feeling. i.e. Christ had followers: his disciples.
I want my fans back. If someone is following me, I will call the police.
Oh, one more question: do we now leave follower mail, instead of fan mail for someone whose work we enjoy.
There's so much being added to HubPages that I can scarely "follow" it all, but I'll catch up. I really do like the term "follow" though.
Well, after all is said and done, I DO like the word "following" better. I feel more comfortable saying "I'm following you" than I do saying "I'm fanning you." Nevertheless, I'm a fan of my followers.
"Fan" or "follow" or both suit me. It's great to discover new friendship at HubPages.
Thanks for the clarification. Never would have put the two together since I am a new hubber.
Fan or follower suits me. Both do also. Thanks. I'm slowly graduating as new hubber because I have fans and followers who give me tips on hubbing.
I am starting a cult, anyone want to follow me? didnt some guy do a documentry on this? he sent out flyers asking people to join but he didnt tell anyone what it was about and still got lots of replies
I don't mind fan or follower, both terms are ok but your explanation described it very well. Thanks again.
Ok, now that explains that. I was wondering when and why the fans changed into followers. Kinda liked the fan thing but I understand it doesn't go with some topics.
Is hubpages going religious cult…you know…with disciples and apostles and them lame sorts that form cults as “followers”…poor description of “fan”.
Aha! I knew this subject would be somewhere on the Forums. Guess I can close the file on Fans v. Followers.
"Are you employed Mr. Lebowski? One doesn't go out looking for a job on a weekday dressed like that!"
"Weekday? Wait, what day is it?"
I totally agree with you, there is a certain dignity to the word follower, that the word fan does not have. Unfortunately, the word fan has been associated with movies about sick, deranged weirdos, who are obsessive about the person, they admire and even stalk them. So I think it's a good change.
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