texan isn't coming back. last i heard, he was banned from forums for a while, but he didn't want to wait out the ban, so he shut down his account. i saw it in a thread where it was explained, but i forget which one. sorry to have to tell you all that.
Thanks MOW. I'm fairly thick skinned... learned a long time ago that the people whose opinions I give a da*n about aren't usually the ones that would hurt me. I generally don't resort to profanity, but to those of you who have constructive things to say... whether or not I agree with them... have at it! I love a good battle and I respect an intelligent opponent and love a good critique. To those who just want to bring people down and get a dirty punch in in the process... F*ck off.
(Please excuse me... I do believe that's the most offensive thing I've ever said online.)
Its that time of the year when lemmings throw themselves off clifftops and Hubbers delete their hubs and profiles. Why they do it is a bit of a mystery. Psychologists may have an explanation. Could it be overcrowding? Perhaps we need to spread out a bit more? Oops there goes another one..
More like HP's yearly pruning in the process....beyond me too! The only thing I've learnt from it is the fragility of cyber relationships: wonderful because they're there at the click of a button, but gone as quickly too! glad you've been around for 2 years....!
Yes, I am focused on the money. But the community is fun as well. But I can see why some people never come to the forums at all - except to read announcements and stuff like that. Take a look at the Top 100 hubbers - most never post or post very little.
Some people seem to be here just for the forums - and they are the ones who come and go very quickly.
Yes. Person commented wrongly about lost friend that wasn't part of event. very personal. Just had to fall to my roots and come back to realize I don't control others. Only how I choose to react. I choose to be happy. It is a personal choice.
Your followers are just another number, write something big and you will remember, at the start there were not followers. Write for you and for money for you. Followers cannot make you better or worse, (my opinions forgive me)
Hey, Oli - you said exactly what I was thinking! I don't get all the drama - "I'm leaving!", "I'm back!" - unless it's to get followers or some kind of sympathy. Frankly, I'm tired of seeing those threads. Yes, yes, I know, I'll just ignore them!
I'm here for the money and occassionally participate in the forums, mostly for announcements and such, but I do get sucked in to some Hubber's Hangout threads and for the most part enjoy it a lot.
It originally comes from a Monty Python's Flying Circus bit, where an old woman in some eatery is complaining about not wanting any SPAM (pork luncheon meat) in her meal. Meanwhile, a bunch of guys dressed as Vikings keep on singing: Spam, spam, spam, spam.... which of course drives the old woman up the wall.
Thus the endless, unwanted e-mail prodding achieves much the same result.
I cannot imagine what could make me leave and take down my hubs especially since my traffic is getting healthier (have up and down arrows every day since my last holiday from work when I could focus on writing) and I have seen encouraging traffic and sales with amazon and a few surprising clicks with google (good surprises). If I ever allow the nonsense of the forums upset me I can see leaving the forums but I cannot imagine throwing away the residual income that my hubs are generating and I am always getting ideas for new ones too
I could see getting peeved off and spouting a bunch of angry posts getting myself banned but to delete my hubs? No way! BTW if I do start spouting a bunch of angry posts at people that means something is wrong, I just don't get emotionally drawn into the politics and religion, well actually I do get mildly annoyed at the futility of it all but thats more because I see people talk a lot of talk about what they don't like but most people don't actually lift a finger to make changes and its kinda pointless to complain and do f*ck all about it
well said Kirsten....and I agree completely: take a break, I say, if that's what you need, but leave the account and hubs intact. But I guess, sometimes people get too involved and impulsively delete hubs, which I'm sure they regret later on, once they've had a chance to cool off. Another limitation of 'online' writing I guess: it's just so quick to delete!
MOW this thread really helps to know what is going on in forums. I m so happy to know Ryan is back. Good he indeed was one of the finest hubbers. I have to agree with Nelles statistics the ones that are in the top league hardly come to the forums.
I am really sad if the ones you mentioned are leaving. Personally loved some of the hubs they wrote. I wish they just take a break and do come back but let the hubs stay.
P.s: I am scared to say I am leaving; what if no one stops me. lol so here you go-Staying here will stick around in thick and thin.
Thanks CJ...you know we'll beg you not to, even start one of those threads ALL in your name.... then threaten to leave ourselves...but you'll delete your hubs anyway...then we'll beg you some more... and you'll come running right back...only to be stuck with the pain of republishing everything!
I am staying, (obviously), but if you decide to take a break, there is no reason to take down your hubs. You can change the notification settings for Hub Pages, and just come back when you feel like it, not every time you get an e-mail for a comment. Even put a notice in your profile that you are on a vacation!
I'm new here and would just like to know why some people leave. If the Texan you mention is the same one who left a comment on my hub then he explained to me he was banned from the forums and gave up his account.
Welcome Padrino and don't panic! People leave HubPages all the time
1. Some people join HubPages thinking it's a place to promote their other websites by writing ad copy with lots of spammy links. Their Hubs get deleted.
2. Some people join and don't have the patience to read the Starting Out Guide, so they give up before they start.
3. Some people think HubPages is a blogging site, and leave when they discover it isn't.
4. Some people misunderstand the purpose of HubPages. They think the social interaction on the forums is more important than writing articles. When something happens to upset them on the forums (or when they upset other people and get banned from the forums), they get in a huff and flounce off, taking all their articles with them.
The first three categories often arrive and leave without us knowing. Very few people fall into the fourth category, but they make so much noise and attract so much attention, you'd think it was happening all the time.
It depends what you mean by "better Hubbers". If you mean more creative or more colourful, that's probably why they end up getting banned from the forums!
The fact that they are creative and volatile means they're more likely to over-react and delete their Hubs as well,but that's entirely their choice. After all being a Hubber is about writing Hubs, not about forum posting.
BTW Tattoguy is still here and still writing great Hubs, as far as I'm aware.
I agree with you Marissa with regards to your comment and as for Tattoo Guy aka BadCompany of course he is still here. There are a few that are taking a break and are going to begin to seriously get into there writing.
Great input as usual Marisa. I just think there are some writers here who just love writing and hope to earn a little on the side, not just through commercial hubs but yes, informative hubs on say, politics/social issues/health etc (lots of varied topics). For them, followers signify readership, and forums are a great way of meeting people. So, yes, a balance is possible.
But I definitely agree that the forums, important as they are to the sense of community here, should not take over the real reason why we're here: i.e. to write!
I know what you mean, but life is about different kinds of people and individual tastes....and one person's idea of a good writer might be totally different from another's. So, I'm glad HP accommodates all.
Besides, not everyone is here solely to earn money, just as everyone isn't here only to gain followers. I'm glad in fact, that most people here manage to keep a balance and stay on..
In my years on this site I have seen so many people randomly follow me in hopes that I follow them back. And then as soon as I do, if the topics they write on interest me, they delete me from the hubbers they're following?Do you guys really think this makes people want to read and comment on...
We all have one hubber (or several hubbers) that never dissapoint us when we read their newest hub. I have quite a few, like tantrum, i*n*v*i*c*t*u*s, Ralwus, Funnebone, Cagsil, and several others. So who is yours?
Just wondering. So much ill will abounds in the forum, largely related to a couple of the sub forums. That aside, what would improve your hubpages experience? And no one can say 'shut down the forum' because we'd lose a principle platform for helping each other in many ways - not least the...
Like referrals.1. Why insert an _referralcode into the URL. Couldn't you come up with a dynamic insertion solution? If an insertion was required, what's wrong with appending it at the end of the URL as in ?referrer=xyz? or would that make it too easy for hubbers?2. Why do pages like the Referrals...
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