Creating more Hubs for Money

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   eculliganposted 14 years ago

   Does creating more hubs really work and increase you adsense revenue?  I have been promoting the heck out of my ten hubs and only made 20 cents.

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      AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am not sure. I have 1 hub and began getting page impressions almost daily since September 11, 2010 and I started on hubpages on June 3, 2010. No earnings yet but it is on the way. My best opinion is to make sure that you write the best quality hubs that you can. That is what I have done and is why I am not writting anymore hubs and just sit back and watch the money flow in. I have written what I wanted to write and it is successful to me as far as I am concerned. I do not know if this has ever happened on hubpages before with only one hub but it looks like you can make money on 1 hub if it is of really great quality.. I wish you the very best and much success with your hubs eculligan. Thank you.

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         eculliganposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thankyou Sir.  I will continue and try to put my best effort forward on my next hubs.  I wonder if it has something to do with writing articles over 1000 words.  Google has some really weird Algorithms, but hopefully I will find something soon that works.

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         darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I need to know, just in case I've missed something that's obvious here, is this wonderful hub in your AMBASSADOR BUTLER account?

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            WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            

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            AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            The money that I will be making through google adsense which I am signed up for will be all from page imressions alone and I am getting plenty of impressions almost daily since September 11, 2010. You can laugh all that you want to but I will be laughing all the way to the bank soon with only page impressions. thank you.

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               waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I think you are raving mad to think you are earning from impressions of a not published hubpage, to which you may be getting views if you look at it yourself....
               
               And you would need some considerable impressions to ever make payout with adsense, well over 100,000 impressions per day should do it.....but where oh where is the hubpage????!!!!

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                  AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I will let you know when I get my first payout thank you. Like I said before I began getting page impressions since September 2010 and on almost on a daily basis. Thank you for the information about the 100,000 impressions per day so that I can monitor my progress. Maybe you can tell me where the page impressions are coming from because it does not come about from out of thin air. Let the impressions keep rolling on for my 1 hub. Thank you.

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                     prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I am beginning to like you SIR, you have a good sense of humor, you made me smile this morning........ You really believe in what you are saying and you want us to believe in it, LOL

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                        AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        I am glad to make you smile this morning. You made my day. Yes I believe and know what I am saying about getting page impressions on my 1 hub since September 11, 2010. I look at my google adsense report everyday and I am getting plenty impressions and know that my first payout will be soon enough for me. I have plenty of time and all those impressions is coming from people who love my article that I got a license for on JUNE 6, 2010. Drum roll please for when I will hit first payout. I guess we all will have to be patient to find out when? Oh well what the heck, I could guess but that would take away the suspense of it. I see my impressions number everyday so I could give an approximate time for my first payout but I will not. Thank you prettydarkhorse,such a pretty name. You can call me underdog. The odds are stacked against me. HAHAHA I know how to enjoy life and laugh at myself at the same time.

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                           Ign Andyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Just curious: If you made great hub then why your profile score is only 56?
                           Your hub score most likely lower than that number

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                              AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              I do not know why. At this time my hub score is 60. Thank you.

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                     waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Lol! you're obsessed!!!!!

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                        prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Hi waynet.
                        
                        They say that once you always say it and believe in what you are saying, it will become true -- only in your make believe world. There is a danger to it.

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                           waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Yes, it's like a small lie that snowballs and then before you know it, you are trapped in lies and you'll slip up eventually.

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                              AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              No slipping for me because I am not lying. Thank you.

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                                 waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 Lol....hahahaahahaahha.....!

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                                 girly_girl09posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 It would at least be wise to understand how HP indexes unpublished hubs on their server before making such outlandish claims. Unpublished hubs are virtually impossible to find via search engines as they are password protected and the "bots" that climb web content can't find them; it is an internal network - no one else but you and the HP staff can view your hubs (I'm sure they'd be happy to clear this issue up, too). Therefore, there is absolutely no way that you could be earning money this way. I'd suggest finding a more productive use of your time online because I'm not sure what type of pleasure you get from constantly posting in the forums that you're earning money and everyone knows you are not. You actually can make money here, so I'd suggest turning your fantasies into reality.

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         waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Lol!!.....are you a sockpuppet? hahaha!!

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      warchild75posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I didnt start making decent money until about my 80th hub,although it is really about traffic as apose to the amount of hubs you have,i had 79 hubs with about 250-300 views a day then my 80th hub was very popular and boosted my traffic to nearly 2000 a day which helped a lot.

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         David 470posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         300- 2000 that fast! Wow, that must of been one popular hub! I had a hub that was getting 300+ for a while, but its lower now.

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            warchild75posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            It was a very good hub giving tips on the latest xbox game everyone was raving about.

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         Ign Andyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That 80th hub must be very impressive. My highest traffic from one hub is only 45 and this hub still no revenue.

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      Iris Lebowposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Eculligan,
      I've read your question and most of the replies.  I'm at just about the same spot as you.  I've been around for about two months, have 10 hubs, even one Hubnugget winner.  I wondered about making money altho it isn't my main goal.  I just wondered since my Adsense is at 36 cents.  What I really worry about is that I feel so LOST. For instance people are telling you to be concerned about you SEO.  What is that?  Can someone tell me?
      Thanks,
      Iris

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         Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         SEO is Search Engine Optimization.
         
         Making money is all about search engine traffic.  I strongly suggest that you look down at the bottom of this page and click on the Learning Center link. There you will find very good advice on getting traffic.  You really should NOT pay attention to the advice anyone else gives until you have read and understood those articles.

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      Lily Roseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, the more hubs you have the more you will earn - that has been my experience anyway.  I've been on and off with backlinking but decided a few months ago that I had enough with it.  Since day 1 I have definitely seen an increase in traffic and clicks and income the more I publish, even when not promoting.  The only promotion I do now is occasionally to Facebook if I think my friends there may be interested in reading that particular hub.
      
      I made my first payout at 3 months, the second after another two months and then it stayed at every other month until my 11th month and it's been monthly ever since.
      
      I would definitely advise you to publish more if you want to increase your income, but make sure it's quality and put a bit of effort into keyword research to optimize your SEO and potential...

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      my-success-guruposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes creating more Hubs will increase your adsense revenue but you want to  use a good seo tool to get continuing traffic to your hubs. Just google the key words (key word tool google adwords). Building backlinks will also help drive more traffic which results in greater earnings.

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   WryLiltposted 14 years ago

   Please ignore Ambassador Butler. He claims to be getting tons of google traffic without publishing his hub - poor guy doesn't realize that you can't get views if NO ONE CAN SEE YOUR HUB!
   
   All I can say is - until you learn SEO and keyword research you can only go with writing LOTS of hubs. When you have 30 hubs and are still not getting much traffic, then you can come back and complain.
   
   WRITE LOTS and DIVERSIFY LOTS. Write about everything.
   
   Don't promote - I don't. Not unless you are 100% sure that the hub is in a good niche.
   
   For instance - if you write a hub about how to make money online, all the sites on the first page of google have literally hundreds of backlinks to them - you could beat them with promotion but it would probably take you years and would achieve little.
   
   Promotion is useless if what your promoting is 1. Up against sites that have years of age on their domain and thousands of backlinks or 2. Are topics that no one is searching.
   
   You can rank number one on google for Purple Pigeon Poo but if no one is looking for it - it won't make you a cent.

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      KristenGraceposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL great points... 

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         Dorsiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes good info. I have found that most hubbers that write quality hubs and do some decent linking and promotion will reach adsense payout in about 10 months. That is just an average and will depend on what you write, how much your clicks are worth, lots of variables but 10 months is pretty average.

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            eculliganposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Time of hub probably means more then promotion.  After 10 months you actually start to see an increase in traffic.  Some good advise thanks.

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            wildernessposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I hope you are pessimistic, Dorsi.  So far this month I am on track, almost to the dollar, to make my first payout from Adsense.  You would have me wait another 5 months!

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               Rochelle Frankposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hey-- I got my first at 18 months, second at eight, third at five....
               
               I do NO promotion, keyword research, SEO techniques or backlinking. I know all of that stuff could probably boost revenue, but I spend my time on other things. I really don't even write many hubs, but I do have a few in progress (when I get around to it). I'm happy, but I don't really try too much.
               This is just to give you an idea of what might happen naturally.
               Oh, and Amazon has started adding a few dollars, too.

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                  wildernessposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, I don't promote hardly at all, but have tried to learn and use SEO techniques and keyword research, and I try to use what little I've learned.
                  
                  And like you say, Amazon has begun to add a few lonely $$ at times as well.  That one is so sporadic that it is more of a write and leave it as far as I'm concerned.  It just hasn't been consistent enough for me to get a handle on at all.

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               Dorsiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               That's great Wilderness. I believe you are ahead of the curve so that's great! We have had these discussions many times and 10 months more or less seems to pretty average...so you are not average!!!

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   MPG Narrativesposted 14 years ago

   It takes time to earn money on Hubpages. You have only been with HP for 2 months, people usually don't start earning money until 6 months or more. Be patient and write good quality hubs about topics you know and understand and the money will follow.
   
   Earning on this site means tweaking and improving your hubs all the time, putting effort into SEO and some backlinking (don't overdo it) and also promoting your hubs. The length of articles is usually not an issue although 400 words + usually work well.
   
   Good luck with writing and earning on HP.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 14 years ago

   I think that writing hubs and getting lots of good content out there is the best thing to do first.  Trying to promote too much can sometimes be counterproductive.
   Two months is not going to produce much income. In my first two months I earned a little over $2., but I was not really looking for earnings.
   Don't expect too much too soon. Trying to figure out algorithms is not helpful, because they are constantly changing.
   Don't expect too much at first. "Do your best and flush the rest." You will learn little things as you go.

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   Cordaleposted 14 years ago

   2 months in and I have 60$

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      deuxlaiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      2 months i got around $23 from adsense and $16 from amazon.

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      TopUniverseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Congrats. That was a good start.

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   schoolgirlforrealposted 14 years ago

   I have alot of hubs, but I only used the keyword tool on some, so I guess I better get to that

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   Write a lot, thats by far the best way to earn on here. Just try and keep the quality up, and the content interesting, you should see an increase in earnings over time.

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   eculliganposted 14 years ago

   I keep hearing that over time is key.  I am very new to the SEO thing so thanks for the good tips.

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   Purple Perlposted 14 years ago

   Write what people are looking online for,in grammatically good English and write about various things and add quality backlinks to related hubs. Also stick to topics you are comfortable with and do your research well before you begin any hub.Spice up with your own pics and videos,serve up a great title using your keyword.Let your first paragraph contain keywords,and your tags are important too. Of course, the more quality hubs, the better the money. At the moment, forget looking up the earnings dashboard every day, and spend time creating quality hubs. Earnings are sure to follow! GOOD LUCK!

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    brettbposted 14 years ago

    Humans generally get better at doing stuff over time.
    
    I started in February. Pretty much all my new hubs are successful now as I know exactly what to write about. My February hubs are now hitting #1 for juicy keywords. I write elsewhere as well, but my online income is growing at ~8% a month.
    
    I've had a few run-ins with the Hub god, but I am surprised at how much you can earn here.

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    kmackey32posted 14 years ago

    Seems to me the more hubs I write the more I earn....

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    frogdroppingposted 14 years ago

    Wayne just ignore AB. Your chain is being yanked. If you bother to read the posts by AB, you will note that he or she cannot consistently replay the same way that they type. The language changes from almost illegible to grammatically correct.
    
    Just saying

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       waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Cheers there....I know a sockpuppet when we see one!!!!!

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          frogdroppingposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          *nods*
          
          You can't fool a Tyke like you can a Southern Softie

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          Fenixfanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I've only been here 4 weeks and have found that the trending topics earn more google searches. I started writing on sports and such things as I knew. I created a halloween costume hub and bam adsense clicks every day. It may be boring and not fun for hubpage readers to read, but those are the ones that earn me money. Billions of people are researching halloween costumes, while it will be short lived, we have thanksgiving coming up and Christmas. Those are some ideas to the main topic of this forum. Sorry about putting this reply under yours waynet. haha. I didn't look before I clicked on reply and I had already went to far to delete. Guess I could have copied and pasted. Oh well...

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    Spacey Graceyposted 14 years ago

    Wayne - stop playing with the sock and get on with your work
    
    I would love to join in but I've got laundry, cooking, then the school run so now I am HP cold-turkey til 7pm when the joyous moment of bed-time arrives.
    
    While doing all my boring motherly duties I will have a good think about why my many many unpublished hubs have failed to generate me a single penny - I must really suck at this

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       waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah I've got around 66 unpublished hubpages that are secretly earning me clicks and impressions and when it comes to payout I may win a new car!....shhhhhh don't tell anyone!

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          AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I already told everybody that my article was on google before I appllied on hubpages to join. They accepted me but would not published my hub because it is too short and almost empty. I am learning the ropes like every one here on hubpages. I thought that my 1 unpublished hub on hubpages meant that it was unpublished even though my article is on google. Which means that people can still see my article which is license on JUNE 6, 2010 and that is where my impressions are coming from. I am not selling anything on google and all my money will come from my 1 article that I wrote and is not published on hubpages because it is too short and almost empty. That should clear things up for you but if not , oh well that's life. Thank you.

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             Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Clear as mud.
             
             An almost empty hub that was "licensed" (?????) is earning boatloads of money.
             
             I do not know if you are confused or worse but nothing you say makes sense.

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                AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I do not know. All that I know is that I see page impressions on my google adsense and I am getting lots of impressions and my estimated earnings is at 0 but the potential is there to make money if it keeps growing like it is now. Thank you.

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                   Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   I suspect that you are very, very confused about something.
                   
                   You seem very paranoid also.  That may come from your confusion, of course : if you mistakenly believe something about Google or HP, that misunderstanding could lead you to think that you need to protect something.
                   
                   It might help us help you jf you explained exactly why you think you need to leave this miracle hub unpublished.  Just explain in your own words how you think you are helping yourself and perhaps we can help you to a better understanding. 
                   
                   I realize that you are fearful of revealing something. You don't need to do that, just tell us what you think might happen if you did.

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             Barbara Kayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I think you are enjoying posting and playing with everyone's minds.

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                Barbara Kayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                If it is doing so well, why don't you publish it and make some really good money?

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    Spacey Graceyposted 14 years ago

    But seriously - you don't have any published hubs under this account.

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       rhtrulesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Plz comment here also
       http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/56408

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       AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Right no published hubs under the account in hubpages. My article is on google where I put it there before I joined hubpages. On google I am not selling anything where my license article is at and where people can see it. I did not meet the standard with hubpages for my 122 word count. Thank you.

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          WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          What do you mean by on google? Google doesn't let you write articles - it finds articles on other sites and shows them to searchers....

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    Pcunixposted 14 years ago

    Real person here. 
    
    I started at HP on May 30th of 2010 and made my first Adsense penny on June 1st.  Since then I have earned another $46.96 as of this morning.
    
    The 170 hubs I have were created over the time here  although I did push harder in the first three months.
    
    I announce most (but not all) hubs on Facebook or Twitter or both. When it makes sense to link an article from something I have at my main web site or to link from HP to an article there, I might do that, but it is not common.
    
    I do interlink related articles here at HP  through groups and through direct references.
    
    I don't use SheToldMe or any of the others commonly mentioned here.
    
    I am known and thoroughly disliked for my opinion that gaming search engines by creating backlinks is reprehensible.  I absolutely refuse to get into another pig fight about that, so if someone challenges me about that and you notice that I do not respond, that is why.
    
    At my main web site, I have many thousands of articles created over almost two decades. That site went up in 1997 and gets appx 250,000 pageviews monthly and earns what you'd expect for that volume.  As that tends to be a more techie site, I may not  bother to Twitter or FB new posts - it depends on the subject matter and my mood.  Google still finds them and the really good ones pick up true organic backlinks from all over the world.
    
    There are people who can consistently nail popular content. I'm not one of them, though in fairness popularity is never my target.  I get lucky every now and then and create a money maker - without promotion, without fakery, without buying links, trading links or doing anything more than writing my page and setting it free.
    
    So, yes, making more hubs is a way to make more money. Even my worst hubs make some money, and quanity does make it add up.
    
    If you can write Everyman and Evergreen, you can make money without quantity - and without  trickery.  I can't do that, but you might be able to or at least might be better at it than I.  If, like me, you prefer to write what you want to write when you want to write it, your success may well depend upon prolific output.

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    SuziGravenstukposted 14 years ago

    Stellar outlook and attitude! You are an excellent role model.

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    kazemaru2posted 14 years ago

    A hub with a marketable topic is what gets adsense profits

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    John Holdenposted 14 years ago

    Ambassador Butler, why not tell us how to find your hub so we can learn from it and add a few impressions to bring you even closer to your first pay out?

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       AMBASSADOR BUTLERposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you but I can not do that to protect my adsense account with hubpages. Just be patient and it will eventually get around for every one to see.

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          Cobrafanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Protect your Adsense account? Publish one of your hubs, I'll tell you exactly what your Adsense account's code is.  There's no protecting your account code.

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             eculliganposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks Ambassador for giving me advise on how to make money without publishing a hub.

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                WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Ambassador is either a troll or a sock puppet or something I can't say without getting banned.

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                   darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   I wouldn't say he was either. But I suspect they're scoring high on the NFI meter.

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                      WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      NFI?

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                         Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         I have no freaking idea what he might have meant.
                         
                         But I'm betting on confusion.  A basic misunderstanding somewhere that has escalated to this.

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    eculliganposted 14 years ago

    Thanks Lily Rose!  This is exciting stuff when hearing it from real people who publish hubs and earn money.  I'll keep writing hubs and wait for the payout.

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    C.V.Rajanposted 14 years ago

    In web content writing (for money) it is quantity rather than quality that pays.

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       Lily Roseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I think the two go hand in hand - quantity definitely, but they also have to be quality.

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          Fenixfanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I know I'm a rookie here and my opinion may not go far, but I have written 40 hubs within a 4 week period. I was under the assumption that more hubs more money. I have quickly learned that is not the case. You can have 100 crappy hubs that produce views, but nobody is worried about clicking on an ad or anything. Most of your hits will be look n go views if the content is not interesting. I have already noticed that my higher quality hubs get more clicks.
          
          The others basically just take away from your adsense earnings. We get paid per 1000 impressions. The clicks are averaged into a percentage. If you have 100 impressions a day but only 1 click, you aren't doing so hot. For this reason I unpublished a couple of my hubs because even though they got good views, there were hit and go hubs, killing my adsense earnings. Like I say I'm no genius, but if you have 100 hubs, you will get 100 views per day, but how many of those will provide clicks?

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             Lily Roseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             That's where keyword research comes into play - to help you figure out what people are actually searching for...

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    CASE1WORKERposted 14 years ago

    I have spent some time debating and think the title of the hub is "the emperor's new clothes" we all know the tale, the king is tricked into buying a new suit that only he can see when in fact it is not actually there!
    so join me in my miopia and celebrate this wonderful achievement of a hub that is so special that it is reaching payout within four months, all on its own and not even published.

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    mkcbishopposted 14 years ago

    I have looked for the keyword stuff, where do i find it?

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       Rochelle Frankposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Try the search box. Search in hubs, site, or help to start with.

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