what i like about joy56
I am in awe of poets. But makes me wonder what are they doing to a site like this, instead of having their own blogs or sites to publish them.
Best Regards
I am off to write a few poems.
Joy, don't worry about such remarks. There have been threads written on the subject and Paul Deeds made this statement:
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/70209?p … ost1530525
It is not poetry that brings down the site, and to my knowledge HP has never made any statement that would indicate that to be true. Anyone hubhopped lately?
Joy, You are more than wanted here...just learn to ignore comments that are negative.. There are many who appreciate you here, so don't leave for just a few
Love ya Joy we have already lost Ralwus.
There will always be a place for your poetry here.Joy, I think it's probably a rare Hubber (regardless of what he writes or doesn't) who hasn't wondered if, maybe, his kind of Hubs aren't quite what they "ought to be" or "what everyone else thinks a Hub ought to be". With so many (particularly recent) discussions about what makes "a good Hub" (etc.), it looks, to me, like some product-Hub Hubbers have been made to feel like their stuff is "wrong", poetry-Hub Hubbers have been made to question theirs - whoever writes whatever kind of Hub is likely to have started to question whether his own kind of Hub has become a "problem" (for HP, for other Hubbers, for himself, for Google - whoever/whatever). I know that for the last x number of years I've been questioning my own odd assortment of Hubs for one reason or another; but - you know what? Anyone who has been on here, and doing his best at writing his own kind of Hub within the guidelines and rules we've all been given, has been writing his own version of "a good Hub". Some earn. Some don't. Some are great writing. Some aren't. Unless and until we start hearing that HubPages wants something other than the mix of stuff people have been writing, everyone's Hub belongs on here. Not everyone likes the same thing, and not everyone wants to read the same kind of stuff.
If the HP team were tell us, "No more poetry, please," or "No more first-person stuff, please," then any of us affected by that kind of change would adjust (in one way or another). In the meantime, it has been made clear (through that link above) that there's a place for poetry Hubs.
I don't think there's a mentally healthy, emotionally mature, Hubber who hasn't been asking himself if he ought to change his writing ways in one way or another. Sure, there are people who so stuck on themselves (to the point that it pretty much looks like mental illness or a personality disorder) who don't question what they do. There are also people who just don't give a rat's bottom about anyone else, including the site or other Hubbers (but, again, those are people who have "a problem"). Most people (particularly with all this recent Google stuff that's gone on) are going to wonder if one kind of Hub they write or another doesn't belong on here, or if when someone else is talking about "all the crap that's out there", that person means his kind of Hub. (
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Anyone who doesn't earn on here has nobody to blame but himself (except, of course, now that Google thing has happened - but that's HubPages' worry, not any individual Hubber's). HubPages is addressing the issues, and I have no doubt they may come out and make some guideline changes (but nobody can guess whether or not such possible changes would even involve the poetry Hubs at all).
Personally, I'm going with the guidelines and rules are now. If they change, I'll do the next thing. People shouldn't be leaving because a few people in a few forum threads have made remarks about one kind of Hub or another. A lot of those people don't know what HubPages' aims are, any more than you or I do. Don't let a few personal opinions/preferences/guesses drive you away from a site you say you've enjoyed. I've been on here long enough to have seen how all the things "everyone thinks makes a good Hub" have changed, as Hubs "nobody thought would be anything anyone wanted" have actually proven earlier "conventional wisdom" wrong. Two examples of what "word was" that changed: 1. Nobody on the Internet wants to read more than 400 words - tops. 2. Nobody who searches really cares about perfect grammar. That was "conventional Internet wisdom" a few years ago. Now people are being told otherwise.
If you like this site, and you like writing your poetry Hubs, keep writing on here. If the time ever comes when HP decides it would rather not have poetry (or whatever else on here), they'll make an announcement, send e.mails - whatever. It's one thing for people to simply have to make a change as a result of official, changed, guidelines. It's another for people to feel driven off the site because of what a few vocal forum-posters have said, or implied, about their own idea of what a Hub ought to be. I have my own theory (and I don't think it's just "theory") about what brought on the "Google slap" and - really - I think it had little to do with poetry on this site, or any other site. Helium dealt with the creative writing/informational article difference by giving creative writing (including poetry) its own category and even giving people "badges" (or whatever they call them) for well rated writing - so somebody thinks there's a place for creative writing/poetry on the Internet, while also aiming not to have a fiction story show up in a search for information.
Just don't jump the gun on thinking you or your writing don't belong on here; and REALLY don't worry about "dragging others down" on here. All those "zillions" of other poets on here may not come to the forums to read discussions and end up questioning their own Hubs as a result. You've said you like the community. You know you're well liked by people who know you here. You know lots of people admire poetry. So just do your thing and don't worry about anyone else's two (often worthless) cents. (And I don't have any one thread, or one poster, in mind at all - just thinking about the general "flavor" that's been going on a lot these days, with "everyone" talking about what's "good" and what it isn't.)
I wrote this long post for you, Joy; but I thought it may also help some other people who are questioning their own kind of Hubs (poetry or otherwise) as well. I question the kind of Hubs I've written all the time. Much of the time, I think, "What a bunch of crap." If I ever get "official word" that HP doesn't want that kind of Hub I'll do the next thing (or else they won't clear the Hub for publication anyway). In the meantime, I have to just ignore it if five or six people on a forum thread hint that the kind of thing I write isn't a "high-quality Hub". What makes a "good Hub" is way too subjective to pay attention to anything other than what HP officially offers in terms of rules/guidelines.
Anyway, end of "rah rah speech". (I also feel insecure and question myself about the fact that I write long forum posts - but I can't care about that either. ) In all seriousness, I thought, maybe, this was worth saying because a lot of people may not realize it isn't just the Hub-poets who have been questioning their own kind of Hub recently (or even not so recently). 
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