...and the opportunity arose, could you, would you poke your kidnappers eye/s out?
Explain why or why not.
If they are actively steering a car, probably not.
Otherwise I might.
The reason I asked this is because I was talking to friends about women fighting a kidnapper and I asked this question.
Her answer was 'oooohh, I could never That!" I said why? Your life might be at stake.
She said she'd probably be so scared she'd never even think of it.
I said if ya'd blind the guy and run like hell...!!!
If ya've ever been hit in the eye, you'll know what I'm talking about! IT IS PAINFUL!!!
I think even during driving I would. I would rather take my chances with a car crash then a kidnapping.
I would do whatever it took for them to let me go. If someone removes you to another location you are more than likely going to die.
Yes. In the words of the immortal Dr. Temperence 'Bones' Brennan, "very few people are scary after they've been poked in the eyes.'
I always have my car key wedged between my two fingers as I walk in parking lots, sidewalks, etc. and I am prepared to go for the eyes should I have to defend myself. Why wouldn't I do it if I am being attacked?
Absolutely; in fact, I have thought about this multiple times.
If they have the intent of killing me or physically hurting me, then yes. If they have the intent of disposing me or torturing me, then yes. Why? Survival instinct.
Either that, or I would use my neogitation skills and get in their head and play some wild mind games with them.
Beth - don't count on your negotiation skills. Even if you are some kind of expert on criminal minds, you probably won't have time.
Depends if they're dragging me off somewhere or not. There's always time for negotiation. It's an art and it only takes a few calculated words to plant the seed. I always try to be non-violent first. If that doesn't work, then they will know they've the wrong girl.
Beth...Why take the chance? That could be Russian roullette.
If I was tied up, there is a possiblity that I could not free up my hands or feet to get to their eyes. That's why the mind games. It's easy to find the weak one and work on that person to convince them otherwise. When one has doubt, it does not take much to exploit the doubt and turn it into fear. When fear takes over, the person will become unpredictable in their responses to their coherts, which will leave the opening for escape or at least a good fight.
Turning each player against their own is an easy approach. Distraction from the main goal with confusion and fear will provide the opening for escape.
Beth...your hands are free and HE told you he was going to rape and kill you and taped your mouth....now what?
Not only will I take his eyes out, but I'll rip his privates right off. I have no mercy for predators of this type. I'll also drop him to the ground -- there are many pressure points on the body that will drop a man to the ground in one second. I have the training and he'll know he picked the wrong person!
(I'm quite small, and I've thrown men who are 3x my size who have pinned me to the ground with their full weight on me... survival gives you great strength and power when you need it )
I would use the knife I usually carry if I got the slightest chance. But they would probaly drop me back off. I'm fairly annoying
Hahaha...ok! they taped yer mouth..lol now what?
I could, but I think pulling my Colt pistol from my purse would be more effective.
Gotta watch out for us cute, innocent looking girls. Usually have a weapon somewhere
Habee...lol they took your purse...now what?
I'd beat the crap outta the guy...unless, of course, he looked like Hugh Jackman and had a great personality. lol
I might aim my blows a little lower than his eyes.
I'm not sure I could say at this moment what I would do...knowing me I would probably do whatever I could to escape.. but what I know about fear is that it can do a number of things.... 1 is paralyze you the other is cause you to do something really stupid and dangerous.... another is clear your head to the point where you can actually think. It depends on the person and the situation. What I know for sure is...I will put the lights out on anyone who harm or try to harm my children.
Dee your children depend on you! What would happen to them if you were gone?
Your hands are free and the opportunity arises...what would you do?
..this is an odd question Qwark...lol...
...first of all i'd hit 'em with my santa hat....
..i'd start singin' and pickin' my nose at the same time....i'd give 'em an initial scare back...get 'em to think they picked the wrong person to kidnap...they'd be thinkin' twice about it at this point.....maybe even start to back off.......cuz they'd be confused...and a little scared about what i'd do next....
..and then i'd.....i'd....i'd.....lol
I know I would do whatever I had to do in order to survive - bite, scratch, claw, kick, stomp, etc.
I was actually kinda faced with this once. A guy pal was playing a trick on me...boy, did he regret that! I almost killed him!
An odd question to just ask for no reason. Anything bad happen that you heard about?
But to be more serious, I would do whatever it took. I'd reach for my knife first but if that failed, I would poke someone's eyes out, use teath or attempt to dig out their throat. I do know a few pressure points and I will fight dirty.
Anything can be a weapon, a rock, heavy purse or even a lady's high heels.
Evvy: My friend is a female with 2 young daughters in their early teens.
I've studied some mixed martial arts and the eyes are the first things you take out if you are in a fight for your life.
We were chatting with the girls about protecting themselves in such a case.
It is a very important subject in this crazy world of "freaks."
Most girls never think of destroying an eye. the think of a man's gonads or nothing.
Most girls I've talked to think sticking a finger deep into a man's eye/s is gross...and wouldn't do it..
It's the first thing to go for! THE EYES!!!
I'm off to the gym...tty'all later
I'd poke, cut, slice, hack, chop, etc., etc. I don't think I'd be very concerned for their wellbeing when they're treating me badly and do whatever I can to get out.
Unless they're still nice and somehow pitiful and have semi-understandable motivations and don't really want to hurt me. Then I'd go easy on them. I'd still beat them up if I can though, just to get them out cold and run. But I'd do it gently.
whooeeeee! finally a sado-masochistic thread! I thought it'd never happen!
so, yeah, I'd probably poke both eyes out though, unless the kidnapper was extremely gentlemanly and handsome and soft spoken and was a terrific lover - then, I'd probably hold on for dear life and consider myself lucky!
Course, if he (or she) was extremely disgusting and was yanking me aroun' I'd poke that sucker in both eyes and light out as fast as my little legs could carry me, squeeling, even!
Uhm... So you'd actually sleep with your abductor first to see it he's a good lover and THEN try to escape... *face goes blank*
possibly, or possibly escape during coitus, if he was really lousy at it!
rofl! So you subscribe to the "pseudo-confucious" saying of, "when rape inevitable, lie back and enjoy same" ???
I truly beleive that my survival instinct would kick in. My first impulse is to scream and yell 'FIRE' as loud as I can. Make a lotta noise, no matter where you are. It'll catch them off guard.
Go for the face, fight mean and dirty. Who cares if you hurt them..? Smash their face in and gouge their eyes out if you have to. Your elbow is a good weapon: use it!
If you're over-powered, talk, talk, talk. Look for the first break you can get and go for it. Go completely limp if they have a hold on you. Then, when they release some pressure, break away if you can.
I pray this never happens to me or anyone I know. One never knows how you'll react to something like this. The main thing is be aware of your surroundings at all times, walk boldly, looking around you in front and behind, don't be afraid to stare back at somebody.
Asked me a few years ago I prob would have said "Oh that's so gross and mean"
But now, I say "Dam good Idea, and yeah do anything to survive although still gross..
I will not initiate violence. But defending myself? That's another matter. I study karate. Get the picture? Any kidnapper picking me would wish he hadn't.
And you don't have to poke the eyes to make them stop. Take out their knee--a well-placed kick from the side will do--if they can't walk or run, they can't chase you.
I would poke his eyes out and yell obscenities while doing it. If he was kidnapping me, I think I would enjoy it. And I don't think I would stop until I hurt him a lot more.
Nelle, you are a woman after my own heart!
I gotta say I would go way more psycho then the psycho trying to kidnap me, I wouldn't get scared, I would get mad as h*ll! My goal would be to turn his skull into a bowling ball, never mind the eyes, I would be going for the gray matter behind the eyes. I would happily break my own thumb to turn his septum into a third hole to my skull bowling ball! He's on the floor unconscious? I have seen the movies, and I ain't done yet! He would get the full front of anger for any hurt I have had that I can remember.
I had a teacher in high school who told all the girls in the class, if ever we had someone pointing a gun at us saying 'get in the car!' to take the bullet instead. Once you get in that car the things that are likely to happen to you are so far worse then a gun shot or death, and most likely death would be the eventual outcome anyway. I could see where he was coming from.
Yes, but in your case, I suppose the "things far worse than death" would be the ones YOU do to the abductor...
Still, I get what the teacher said. If I HAD to chose and there would absolutely be no way to escape, Id probably take the bullet too.
Oh yes, I'd take out his eyes, but more likely I'd put a bullet between them or whatever else it took to get away. Why? Well, I was overpowered and asulted once in my life... I fought like a wild animal and went down kicking and screaming, but I still went down. That will never happen to me again.
Tips of the day
When you try to kidnap a girl:
~Take off her purse and bag first....they keep pistols and knives there
~Don't go close and alone. They know your sensitive points and can kick hard enough
I will show her my boobies to distract him and then kick him in his groin. Yes of course in order to survive I can do anything.
But Ewwww, poke the eyes...
See what I mean?
Pretty said "But Ewwww, poke the eyes..."
I don't know why "ladies" would be hesitant to pull a kidnappers eyes outa his head to escape.
I love the answers that say:(paraphrase) damned right and I wouldn't be finished there!
It might be gross but I kinda prefer gross to being in horrible pain. I was given another great tip, if attacked with intention of rape, if you have to pee, pee. It might gross the perp out enough to give me the advantage. I think I could handle making myself gross and unappealing if it gave me any sort of edge
As soon as she can talk well, she will learn how to scream effectively.
When she gets stronger she will be enrolled in self defense classes. My daughter will not be a victim
My dad taught me the basics of fighting with a knife and I took a few karate classes, for a couple years. And Salehennsblog, I keep the knife in my pocket or elsewhere. A women has lots of places to hide a weapon.
It kinda depends but if they are old enough to be out and about on their own they are old enough to be offered self defense classes, and given any tip I have to give. My dad gave me a few tips when I was around 11 years old and I was more then happy to be taught so it was a good age
Of course my dogs went wild when they saw us practicing and went for my dad big time!
Think about the little girl that was kidnapped out of her bed while she was sleeping in the security of her own bedroom by a next door neighbor. She was raped and buried alive with her teddy bear!
If that frightened little girl coulda/woulda stuck a finger in the guys eye...deep into the eye...she might be alive today!
They are never too young to be taught!
The eyes, the eyes!!!...go for the eyes!
I very seldom agree with anything you say.
This I agree with.
They can't get you if they can't see you.
I would say teach your daughters (and your sons) how to defend themselves as early as possible. They can't be too young. Unfortunately it's just a fact of life that the world is full of predators who like little children. I have always talked to my girls about safety, strangers, bad people, and protecting themselves. I was raised in NYC, lived in foster homes, ran away and lived on the streets for a while. They know my background and that I know what I'm talking about. We have all taken self-defense classes given by the police, and the three of us get lots of practice at the local indoor shooting range too.
Back in the sixties I lived in a community where young girls were being snatched and killed. The police came to the elementary school and taught us how to use a book corner to hit someone in the stomach to make them let go. We were told to carry a book home even if we had no homework. We were also all given a piece of chalk and told to write down the license plate on the sidewalk if we witnessed something - they also taught us to make a sentence out of the plate number. (Ex: 188IOV becomes "for a dollar eighty-eight I Own a Violin.")
Those lessons are still with me - and I turned 50 two days ago!
If got kidnapped by an alien in the spaceship!
Or by your diehard lover in wild woods or in a holiday resort!
Or by a tender billionare in a space shuttle bound to moon !
Or by a Sea captain in a submarine to the ultimate depths of the sea !
Or by a lonely arab in a camel caravan bound to the palace near his goldmines !
Or by an african chief in his helecopter flying towards his solitary island in the middle of the sea !
I dono what would be the stratagy then ??????
Yes why not? I once did a self defence course, the idea was to give yourself enough time to escape. However I think I watch too many horror movies where the attacker/slasher lays injured on the floor only to come back at their victim. I say when they are down keep them down and make sure they can't get back up.
As for poking their eyes out, well at least if they did get back up they wouldn't be able to see you!!
I have the gift of annoying anyone to the point of madness. My kidnapping would be short-lived for sure!
Its the crocodile technique...
Someone says if a crocodile attacks you...always go for his eyes;for its the bull's eye point to hit !
Well if ur kidnapper is a man....one should hit his weak point.
And if your kidnapper is a lady.....one should see the age of the the kidnapper to search for her weak point(as it changes with age ).
I WAS gonna kidnap alla yous and take you over to the tribe for some zombie fighting, just to cool your shoots awhile, but my eyes are already hurting! so, yeah ....
Most of us do not realize what we are capable of until it happens. Someone who says, "No," may be the most violent when actually cornered. But the opposite is also true. People who are confident they would fight are sometimes the ones who freeze and cannot fight. Hopefully you will never have the need to find out.
One reason people should not assume a gun will save them is that they need to be sure they can pull the trigger. Otherwise, they have armed their assailant.
An idea from before the days of pepper spray: Young ladies who are insecure - carry hairspray in your purse. It's easy to explain away and it burns like the dickens when sprayed in the eyes! (One young woman kept a can in her car for this purpose, but when a man tried to open her car door, she grabbed the can of blue spray paint by mistake! They had no problem identifying her attacker!)Also a heavy jar of hand cream in the bottom of a purse with a shoulder strap makes a good "attitude adjuster".
Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world where people don't have to be prepared for the worst?
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