I was talking to my sister tonight about quitting my part time job and she has thought that it was a good move. We talked about the little forty two dollar check each week and she said that that is no big loss. I am surviving on my alimony right now so will be able to survive for ten years while I search for ways to promote my paper doll website on a budget. So she was supportive of me quitting. The thing she didn't seem so supportive of was my hub pages as I was telling her about how the site works and the success stories and also about me creating the paper doll website. She called me an internet junkie which was a little rude. Then for a moment she misunderstood me and thought I said our brother was signed up. I said no. Of course he wouldn't as he was the one who told me hub pages was a scam. I know it is not as I can clearly see my earnings picking up. My son Jake's bus driver learned that I am making a little and the success stories. She said you have to crawl before you can walk. I don't care to talk too much about these two adventures I am beginning with my brother as I kind of Don't want to here it. And my dad says he's glad he has nothing to do with a computer. He's living in the dark ages but he's my dad and they're my siblings and are probably only looking out for my well fare. They mean well but they don't seem like they understand the internet. Maybe that's what she meant about the internet. I have learned a lot about it in the past year. I would love to prove them wrong.
Maybe your sister is afraid that you will waste the best years of your life hiding behind a computer instead of enjoying the friendship of others.
It was many years ago when my parents divorced, in the 1950s, but my mother did not socialize with anyone after he left. She was middle-aged before she pulled out of her shell, and then she was bitter that other people had done so much during their younger years.
If this is what concerns your sister, reassure her that you are not a hermit. She obviously cares about you.
No. I don't think is that is it. I'm pretty active with my boyfriend and community of friends. I am thinking she and my brother are thinking that I won't be able to make any money from either one and they have known I didn't profit much so far from my first self published mystery novel.
yep, my family were critical and recently disowned me. They are very religious and didn't like my hubs about how religion messed me up. I've also been blogging about it. After many personal attacks, I decided to mention the dysfunction in the family - that didn't go down well (even though anonymous), but I was tired of the hypocrisy in the family.
My family have never been supportive of me. I've had more support from strangers that have had similar experiences. My family want me to stop writing on the internet. They want to gag me about what goes on with religious indoctrination and they want me to not have support of people around the world that have been in similar situations.
That's too bad. I think you should be able to say what you feel. I'm hoping my. Family Don't mind me writing about family memories. As far as I am concerned I don't care if people know about my life.
in my biological family, children are not permitted to have an opinion. I'm nearly 40 and am still not permitted to have an opinion. So now I write my opinions.
and you should show them how your "opinion" has made you money later- just to throw in their face that your opinion makes more "cents" than theirs LOL (I couldn't help myself)
Then you shouldn't care what your family thinks as these are YOUR memories and they are INCLUDED in them- if you deem them valid to share that i s YOUR decision not theirs.
From what it sounds like they may not like whatever you do-online so why worry about pleasing them all the time?
To me though, on the online earning thing, I realize that others not online like I am or not aware of earning money.
When they do say things negative to my comments like I'm making money on Hubpages, I take that as a fun challenge (because I have things to show them to back my claims.
I don't talk about anything I can't substantiate as some of even my own family members are stubborn SOB's- but it really shuts them up when we're out to a dinner one day I'M PAYING For, and that's when I spring on them "That that stupid hubpages thing- is paying for your food, the tip, and the movie were all going to next!"
It's a gas, it's about timing.
Keep it to yourself until you make something to show- for off-liners, even 20.00 a month you don't have to earn is amazing.
If they just give you crap and are stubbornly rigid, telling them to get feedback is only counter productive, but having proof- is a great deal of fun.
For some I bring the earning potential things up at that dinner i talked about- just because I "know" they will say what they will say.
When we first got a computer, my husband had a lot of negative remarks he made. He just didn't understand how to use it yet. It's easy to put down what you don't understand.
Now he uses mine more than I'd like him to. I repeated one of his comments from back when and he can't remember ever saying such a thing. He claims he'd never say a thing like that
I was that guy about 7-8 years ago. I can admit I though the internet was a fad that would fade eventually. I saw no reason to check it out.
I only got a computer because I decided to go back to school and needed one to get my homework done. I started checking out stuff online and still wasn't that hooked on it. As I learned more about it all, I discovered how great it could be.
I'm not at all mechanically inclined, but I've successfully done a lot of four wheeler mechanical work from good sites with awesome info. I installed new flooring with online help. I built kitchen cabinets with online help. What I learned online has made me a decent weekend warrior type of carpenter. It's made me comfortable with tackling mechancial projects. Both of those things were something I'd have never attempted if not for the internet.
I think what may be happening here is a case of ignorance (not meant in the insulting definition of ignorance but in the "not knowing enough to quantify value" sense). When people either don't' know enough from personal experience about something like hubpages, or they have negative experience from the web in general... i.e. they've "heard" a lot of things for a long time about scams, spam, making money at home sites that are bs (like those survey sites) and the like- they develop a tendency to "label" things regardless of it's true value or usefulness.
I don't think your sister is against the idea but rather may have another idea of how she quantifies the internet, internet money making concepts (which many STILL don't believe are possible this easy) and the like.
I never believed you could make money online before about 4 years ago- I thought it was a pipe dream and just a bunch of smoke-
4 years later I make more money online than I ever did at a job, I enjoy the freedom of not having to report to a boss of the conventional kind (we all have bosses even if they are our customers, clickers etc...) in that time (3-4 years now), and I have to say before all the activities of the past 4 years I'd likely have given my brothers chit about telling me about their hubpages money making concepts- especially without proof beyond just enough to live on...
I can tell you this though... don't let it bother you, even if they are rude, think about how they will feel in a few years when you make a go of this and earn 300-500-2k a month passively- their rude comments will actually fuel your ambition when you see their change of heart as you have proof.
I learned from experience also that you do things first, then talk about them when you have proof- too many people don't take the time or have an open enough mind to see things the way you do which is a consolidation of your experience and exposure they may not have had!
Hope this helps
Family sometimes mean well, but when they talk of something that they know nothing about they try to put you off and this is negative in a way and can either break your spirit or if you are strong willed you will make this a worthwhile venture online. Some people, including your family want you to be like them, work regular jobs and be exactly like them! when you start having a little thought here and there of trying to better yourself and others try to put you off, it's best to ignore them and try it your own way as you will know for yourself and not others telling you what you should do.
Since being online I've earnt over $150,000, although that figure is my rough figure for over 7 years of online work, I'm sure I've earnt more, but I only really made a serious effort of this since the end of 2007, so I guess the idea is, if you want something bad enough and people are trying to put you down on it, then the only thing left to do is try and prove them wrong!
First... You are a grown adult and do not ever let anyone tell you what is best for you. HubPages is far from being a scam, it is for those who enjoy writing. It doesn't matter if you are a beginner or a professional. Money can be made on HP, if elbow grease is applied. I respect your father, he is older, wiser and did not grow up in the techno age. His points are valid because he is lacking understanding. As for your siblings because they do not clearly what HP is they are a little lost and do not really understand its purpose. When a person does not understand they always say it is a scam. You are an adult, make your own decisions and who cares what others think. You can write a success story, just believe in yourself. You can and will prove them wrong! Just believe, you can do it.
The internet is everything. It is what is changing the world drastically right now, and everyone who isn't involved in it IS from the stone age. Everything that they loved and used in the past is thrown out the door and is pretty useless. I would just disregard it and keep on trucking.
Things are different from here on out, all of the rules from the past are thrown out the door, what you are learning on hubpages is VERY, VERY useful. You can promote yourself, others, and learn a bunch of useful information, such as how this internet actually works and how the money is generated, and how you can get your piece of the pie.
All I can say is. You are the right place, this place can be a full time job for some people, I can promise you that. If you have your own website tied to this, then that is even better.
In the year I have spent here, I have learned how to generate traffic(which I see as dollar signs), I've learned how to make websites, I've learned Hubpages knows what they are doing.
If your income is small right now, you are not doing everything right. Compare other people to what you have and realize what you would have to do in order to accomplish what they have. I spent a lot of time studying other people's hubs, not what they write, but how it looks and how long it needs to be.
I hope your paper dolls go well, just remember you can add other projects and work on them as well. I try to cover a variety of things and I test to see what works and what I like. So always think of other things you are interested in, and they might generate a lot more traffic.
My family knows I've been a frustrated writer for a long time. Now, they are so happy I have found an outlet for my writings. My writing may not be the best in the world, but I can come here and express my feelings, and that is very therapeutic for me. My family is very supportive of me. I love HubPages. I've made a lot of friends here, and I continue to learn from those who are certainly better writers than me.
Personally, I do worry that the internet has taken over my life, and replaced it with a virtual life, rather than getting out there in the real world. It is very addictive, and I can't remember the last time I read a book. I have begun to wish I had never gone online. After all, we all had lives before it was invented. I have even considered getting rid of my computer and getting out my old typewriter instead.
I can see why you said that. However, if we were so happy with our offline life why did we find the online life so addictive. If I'm honest, for the most part, my offline life centered around chores, mundane tasks, socializing with people that irritate me whilst being falsely pleasant. And, not forgetting the soaps. . My highlight was also reading. Now, I read hubs that interest me, sometimes a book. I also get to speak from people from all around the world.
I hear you. For me, the online world is somewhat an escape from the real world. I have plenty of in-person friends that I hang out with and nobody online (other than one person) that I would consider a true friend. That said, it's nice to have idle chat online with people you really don't know other than as an avatar.
I think the online world has changed my life for the better. It can be whatever I want it to be. I can vent without worrying about what other people will think for the most part. I can escape work for 20 minutes on my break when nobody else is around in person. I can make some money, kill some time, learn new things, explore my interests, and do almost whatever I want at any point in time.
I have Asperger's and I find 'socialising' very tiring. I've met lots of interesting people on-line via my writing. I also love to learn new things. I am really happy with computer and books. Other people need to always be out socialising - that's not me.
you'd be better off just creating a new schedule for how much time you spend online. I too found that I became quickly addicted to the online world- there simply is a paradise of knowledge, wisdom, and things not even easily or freely acquired in the real (external) world.
But the internet, computers, and social networking are the new world- the offline world still exists but it's not what quantifies reality anymore exclusively- like any addiction, any new experience, anything that tends to make you change in drastic ways how you do things and question your reality- it takes management, self exploration- but running doesn't change anything- it compounds the problem as your answers are never found that way.
Many of the baby boomers and those around before technology became so proficient, back when the only thing they'd heard of like a cell phone was star trek communicators or walkie talkies, are having a hard time quantifying the new reality- the world is evolving extremely fast now and that's a bit unsettling to the old school, I was born in 1975 and I too am seeing this extreme evolution-
the other day I realized things like the microwave oven weren't even common place when i was a kid, cell phones, CD's, computers, none of this stuff either existed or was evolved enough for the consumer to use or afford...
hell the internet was invented in my life time! I remember a time before the internet! when you couldn't find a movie time without calling from a tethered phone, when friends couldn't find you if you weren't home to answer the call!
It's some getting used to but if you work with it not try to quantify that you want the old days back- you'll find you can do so much more- resource heaven I call this time.
I loved your very valid point about the 'tethered phones' and the 'time before the Internet'. I recall these times too, and even computers in schools were a novelty then. The first computer I ever used was a 'Vic 20' followed by a 'Commodore 64', and at school we then ended up with 'BBC' computers, although we only got to really use them if we took computer studies as a subject. Makes me feel old now, yet I am only 41 (older than you as I was born in 1969)
I had that keyboard you hooked up to the TV my first program was simply a flicker strobe light designed by turning off all the lights at night and running a 4 line program I made that made the screen turn white for .ooo1 second then black then looped... haha good times...
I love to watch television shows created in the "pre-internet" era... Seinfeld for one- they didn't have cell phones when that series was made (there were some in existence but they were army phones lol) when I see an episode where everyone was supposed to meet at the theater and they had to depend on sheer trust that everyone would arrive and get there in time or you waited- I remember thinking wow, without cell phones we can sure get ourselves into some messes (picture George Costanza yelling for Jerry and Elaine in the theater... the crazy clown, and all those funny moments that don't happen now due to everyone being telepathically connected via the cell phone... But if you want to feel young again, read Steve Jobs biography as he talks about his tape player (the one that looked like a movie reel)... and the blue box
LOL, will have to look out for that biography.
I recall a guy who hung out at our local riding stables and fancied himself as a bit of a Yuppie (his name was Nick Lockett and he lived here in the Channel Island of Guernsey, and actually fancied himself full stop lol). He went out and bought himself one of the first car phones back in about 1987. It was HUGE, and had a battery the size of a car battery. So funny looking back, especially as in those days you virtually had to re-mortgage your house to pay for calls made to OR from a car phone.
I remember the first Apple computers in junior high.
Don't let others put you down or talk you out of your dream. Family can be the cruelest while meaning well. Good luck.
You can make a great wage online, but few do it. I'll clear over $2,000 this month with about 450 articles on a different rev share site. I'm guessing I'm in the very, very vast minority. I know how to optimize my articles and select topics that pay.
I don't talk much about my earnings or that I write content online in the real world. When I first started writing for ehow (where I first started writing content online), my father jsut shook his head in disapproval. I did very well there each month (over $900 per month)and when they did the buyout, I rec'd a very substantial check.
I started writing on InfoBarrel about 2 1/2 years ago...same response from most...shaking the head. I also have a lot of content on xomba, theinfomine, posturown, hubpages, seekyt and some other sites. I don't care what others think.
I work fulltime as a jail guard and I'll make more this month online than I made offline.
Who cares what people think? I'm sure your sister and brother both mean well, but what difference does it really make what they think? If I would have listened to others and allowed them to persuade me not to persue this, I'd be struggling right now.
This ISN'T easy work in that few make it to a big income. Think very carefully about what you want to accomplish for earnings and come up with a gameplan to make it happen. Even then, the odds of making real money wiht this are slim at best.
Do whatever you feel is right, but just make sure to think about all your options - keeping a part time job and writing in your spare time, quitting your job and squeak by while writing a lot, etc. It's an important decision you need to make with great consideration.
One last thing I should add:
I got to this level of income through litterally thousands of hours studying SEO, LSI, and general content publishing. I make it because I took the time to learn how to make it.
That's right. It really pays to do a lot of research. I finally figured out how to do the Amazon capsules yesterday. I am going to have fun with that. And I am going to put all my efforts also to my paperdoll website. I told my dad today that I quit my job. He was like, "Are you going to find another job?". I knew right away he was thinking something. Local. I told him I was going to concentrate on my website and hubpages. He then said you have to watch out for scams. I told him that yes there are lots of scams out there. But he does not have pc knowledge.
I agree with JCMayer... the money making realm online is very possible but it's not an easy thing to do. it takes developing a skillset that many people simply take for granted and never put in the work. Many don't like to think outside the box or test test test things until they work. It's a sculpters toolbox but once you put in the time and develop the intuition of how to utilize and leverage the webs resources, your own intuition based on your aquired comprehension of making money online and how the landscape works- then and only then will you be above the minority of those who earn chump change and never go beyond that. One thing I'm finding more and more is that hubpages is such an amazaingly thought out site that it literally TEACHES you these skill sets and if you just put in the time to learn to build, optomize, SEO-ize, and utilize the sites many resources, read hubs, learn learn learn to build better hubs- you will develop what JC has mastered- with no BS.
Ask any of the hubpages success stories and not one will say "oh I just started to write hubs and the money "just" came" They WILL tell you they worked at it, learned to hone their craft, learned to optomize, and kept at it kept at it kept at it- you can't help but learn even just going through the hub building motions! We're built to evolve naturally if we JUST DO IT.
Great Post JC...
I am making a pretty good part time income on HP right now (as of recently), plus some income on other sites. It has taken me three years to finally start to convince my Husband that maybe this can be taken seriously as a 'real job'. Perhaps the answer for you is to get your family to read this thread and hopefully it will reassure them that this is possible to achieve.
Loads of people slandered me for pursuing money online, even my own family..but when it landed me a job as an SEO developer, I made sure everyone knew it was thanks to my stiff upper lip.
People are ignorant to online careers because they haven't researched into it and understand how it works, they will be bitter towards you when they see you succeeding because they know it can be an enjoyable job.
I'm going for a different job right now that I'm not really qualified to get in terms of my education. I'm still considered one of the lead candidates, however, because I have successfully demonstrated an ability to write. That ability is needed for grant writing in this new position and has put me in position to possibly land a fantastic job. While I don't choose to discuss much about my online content when I'm not online, in this case, it could really pay off.
I pretty much work from home for my client but I go occasional to discuss developments of our website, I do a lot of the web design as well. I actually think you need to put money into affiliate marketing for software and domains etc but it will pay off if you choose the right topics like you stated.
Working online through writing is basically an office job. Many people just don't understand that there are real opportunities out there.
you said it brother, it's like they think the internet is this free opportunity you don't have to work for, like making money is as easy as downloading a music track from the pirate bay- it take the same work, the same dedication as an offline job, but the rewards are a thousand fold better- people have to get over the ideals that the internet and the extranet (external world) are different- the only difference really is that the internet is a networked resource management of incredible potential. Yes it's easier to do things online but making money is making money- there are those who put in the work and find out that once you learn your free, then their are those who want to hijack the liberating concepts of the online world- it simply doesn't work that way or we'd ALL be billionaires right?
My sister thinks my online writing is a nice little hobby. She certainly doesn't take it seriously. But, it certainly hasn't stopped me.
I never mentioned about how I write on HubPages to my family/friends too much.
A few of them did not believe I could make money online, thinking it is a scam, or just simply not possible.
I still do not talk about what I do too much, but my friend was surprised recently. He asked me "how much are you making with HubPages"? I told him I made several hundred and he was like "what!"
It took me a long time to start making what I have been the last few months. I started to study SEO, Writing, and Hubpages in 2010. It took me nearly 15 months to get to the level I am at now where I make part-time income basically.
The Google Panda destroyed my goals for a while, even though I still made 75 dollars a month or so from articles written in 2010.
My Dad is aware about my writing online, but I don't think he's aware of how much I made the last few months - he only knew my traffic went above 10,000 at one point.
Many people think making money online (whether it writting or not) is a scam. In many cases it can be, but there are many LEGIT OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
My wife has always been very supportive of my efforts to quit my full time job and try to earn a living from articles, but she did question writing as a real "job" a at first. I write on HP, as well as several other sites and my own blogs, such as Savegreenly.com, and now call it a full time job. Hang in there, diversify, write as much unique and interesting content as you can, find good paying niche topics, use SEO techniques, and eventually you can convince your family after a few months as the Adsense and Amazon checks start to come in.
I'd also like to add that most people will NOT make money online (specifically writing articles) if they have a hard time writing 350-1000 word articles in an hour. When i was in School, people cringed at writing 250 word essays.
In my opinion, you need to be able to write several articles a week if you want to be successful.
Those articles also have to be what people are searching for.
People that make part-time to full-time money online are the minority.
I want to get to the point where I am making at least 1000 dollars a month, but perhaps up to 2000 dollars or somewhere in between.
Hub pages has been great for me. I am making good money although I have not yet been paid. I am not sure how that works. I am just waiting. My family is very supportive and think it was about time I done something I truly enjoy to do an get paid for doing it.
You will get a notification from Paypal to say you have received a payment for 'x' amount from Hubpages. You can then either draw it down into your normal bank account, or spend it by using Paypal as your payment method on sites that accept Paypal. Usually this notification comes through on the 20th of each month you hit payout. Of course this is assuming you are on the HP Ad program and not on Adsense, in which case it will be paid into your normal bank account by Adsense directly.
When I first started on Hubpages, I received constant ridicule for writing here. I was told it was a waste of time and would not benefit me or my family in any way. I insisted that Hubpages was where I needed to be to develop my skills and begin writing and organizing my writing, well again. I probably have had over 100 fights over me writing on hubpages and refusing to stop writing here.
Obviously, I am still here and it has been two years. Since then, I no longer have to refer to others success stories, because I have created my own. I started here, unemployed (struggling to find work). Based off of my writing here, I was given a job at a website design and development company as their Head Content/Copy Writer and later moved into an Editors Position. I left the company in August and am now working with a Marketing Firm as their SEO/Social Media Coordinator. In two years I have developed my skills, and proven myself in my industry as not only a suited writer (but an ethical one). I still credit Hubpages for this (my), transformation of skills and self belief, and it has been over a year since I have wound up in an argument regarding my involvement here, that is not quickly ended based on my success here.
People will always attack what they do not understand. Some have no want to attempt to understand. So many people view writing as a task and not an activity for pleasure- So they struggle with the thought that people are enjoying being a part of a place that is home to writers. You are a grown woman, and do not need a single person to give you logic or permissions to involve yourself in a place like hubpages...You have your own logic and own permission to be here, as well as understand that there is no guarantee to success and the types of success experienced here various from writer to writer. I commend you for being here and for pursuing your business, and wish you the best of luck creating your own success story
Hi there, I'm new around here so hope it's OK to pitch in! I've not been ridiculed but I've not had tons of support either. I think it's fair to say that neither my, nor my husbands family, are all that internet focused and certainly not when it comes to the social media! Luckily I'm a stubborn so and so and haven't ever really worried what other people think of me in that respect. I'm not murdering puppies or doing anyone any harm so why should I worry about whether they like what I'm doing or not? I'm here because I enjoy writing, love helping people and hope one day to make a living out of writing, those are my goals and I shall be sticking to them. In the past 2 years we've changed our lives beyond recognition so I've learned that pretty much anything is possible. Hope that helps! :-)
I'm sorry you have had such a negative experience in your family. I think my family members recognize that it is an outlet for my writing. I am hoping to make more than I currently am, but that was not my initial intention in joining.
I have a very supportive family and two other family members write for hubpages since I've joined.
My family is more worried about my porn addiction than my Hubpages addiction.
Wow, I was reading about all of the things you all have gone through and I have been cringing because I am just staring out and I LOVE hubpages. I've had such a wonderful chance the share my stories and poems and I have been able to help others with things that I know, I really love the opportunity hubpages has given me, but my family doesn't understand it either. I think writers are in a class all by themselves when it comes to writing. Thanks for all the wonderful stories. I hope I can become as confident.
I was kind of surprised that my husband seemed a little jealous of the time I spent on HP at first. It's true I've been on a year and made little money. But I am a quiet person who reads alot, and I always liked to write, just never had the time. It seemed he mostly was bothered that I stay up late to write, and maybe felt neglected. But I'm a night person, and don't really have much time during the day to write. He's accepting of it now, but I really have not made much money. The writing is gratifying to me, and for the most part, I like and "met" many nice people who speak my language. Don't let them discourage you!
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