Google traffic to zero overnight
- Bobbeachamposted 12 years ago
0Almost a year now, but I have seen a slight rise in traffic since updating all my hubs. Google showed a bit of interest then slid back into its hole, but Yahoo and Bing both seem to like me better
Me too, Izzy! Now Bing and Yahoo at least equal--if not surpass--Google traffic on many of my hubs. We'll know in August if we are going to get any satisfaction from Google or not. I've lost any confidence in them at this point though.
Oh that would be nice! My latest recovery saw my earnings jump right up and should get me close to payout but when traffic tanks so does adsense, could take a year to make the last few quid to hit payout if another recovery doesn't happen. BTW, the end of august is when my baby is due to be born so a recovery then would be wonderful! Could pay for nappies or something
Hey congratulations! I did not even know you were pregnant!
Wishing you all the best when the time comesHuge congratulations Kirstenblog - I didn't know that you were pregnant either. I really hope that Google comes good for you and pays for those nappies!
"Mr. SSSSSandbox, Bring Me A Dream?"
I feel your pain, Dale. Staff has no answers, that's fairly obvious.
I too think HP is being punished, Dale. My traffic dropped from around 1500 views a day to less than 200 overnight on August 10th along with several others here. After 10 months is has regained only a small portion of the former traffic, but then, I've added more hubs too. It's like I started over again. I went from making the $100 Adsense payout after only a little more than a week to it taking almost 2 months now.
It was HP's fault, of course. They were allowing some of the most misleading and spammy junk I've ever seen to be published here, but I didn't know it until after the crash when everyone was trying to help flag the stuff. I had no idea there was so much junk on this site before I actually began looking for it. Now, we are being punished because of the greed of those who knew the stuff was here but was making money on it.
After 10 months I've come to the realization that things probasbly aren't going to improve much as far as Google traffic is concerned. This is why the cruddy HPads and the ridiculous Ebay affiliations are being used now. I wish I could say the traffic and earnings will return someday. I wish I could.I understand your viewpoint and respect it, Marcy. But then, you haven't been here long and did not see what the site was like before the first major hit from Google almost a year and a half ago. You think the junk is bad now? There were misleading hubs which prompted visitors to leave their own personal passwords and information in the comment sections because they thought the hub was a sign in place for complaints for some very well known businesses.
And even when these obviously misleading hubs were reported HP was reluctant to remove them because they were bringing in multi-millions of searches--and I assume--lots of earning too. Some of them had to be finally posted on thses forums by those of us wondering why they hadn't been removed when first flagged.
Even then some were allowed to remain by simply changing the titles a bit. Coincidentally, almost all of these were produced by suspicious writers with no Avatar or profile to see who they were. And I'm not even going to go into the multitude of "Indian Auntie" hubs which mainly consisted of photos of mostly unattractive Indian women showing half, or full frontal nudity which were allowed to be published here.
After the first penalty we then realized what was going on here but it was too late to prevent the good content being punished along with the bad. So yes, HP seems to be trying now to clean up the site, but they knew about this stuff from the very beginning and let it stay because it made them money. So far, none of staff has had the courtesy to even address this aspect of the penalties this site has been hit with.
I suppose I don't blame them much though. There is no excuse which would make any sense or place the blame elsewhere other than strictly on the powers-that-be. But I'm still open for anexplanation if staff has the nerve to address my opinion on the fall. I'm not holding my breath for it though.
I do see how newcomers see the staff in a different light if they haven't been here long. They do talk the talk, but walking the walk is a bit different. Perhaps this will explain somewhat why some of us aren't all gaga over the new aspects and opinions of HP presently. And that's the truth, flurrrrp!I'm glad that even after accusing us of all sorts of capital crimes, you've still managed to not only avoid leaving HubPages, but you've gone on to publish at least a couple dozen more Hubs. Thank you for your support, Randy.
Capital crimes Jason?
I would be pleased if you would quote the posts in where I've accused you of such. HP's TOS allowed the publishing of all sorts of rubbish when I first joined here, although some of the worst I wasn't aware of until after the first penalty was applied by Google. To say this was a "crime" is a bit dramatic, isn't it Jason?
And really, have any of you guys attempted to explain how this stuff drawing millions of views escaped your attention? It's not as if some of us haven't asked about it before? The last time I mentioned it to you I was coincidentally banned. But I'm glad you came on here to clear this mystery up.
And yes, strangely enough I am reluctant to walk away from 3 years of participation on a site where I have met good people and enjoy their conversation. And believe it or not, I like the site and its ease of publishing, I always have. I'd rather the site improve than implode, so I hang on. Sorry.
And you'll notice many of my new hubs are not written for money or traffic either. Creative writing does not exactly bring in the bucks here. I write mostly for fun now.
Besides, somebody has to be an "asphole" and I've had experience in the field. I like you guys though despite our differences. Perhaps it's merely an East Coast/West Coast thing! Let the bans begin! 
Are you kidding me? Anyone who thinks giving Hubbers the title of "Elite"--especially when it's laughable in many cases--would be hard pressed to choose qualified people for such a position.
Thanks Randy. I hope things pick back up as well. The income here generated for my first pay out, and my second one should match, were and are impressive to say the least. I have no issues with that at all. I was amazed and truly enjoy the site and the interaction. The ability to publish is easy, and we are well guided through many means and avenues.
The first two tropical storms that were pre-season increased my views on what I call my main hub, drastically. I was doing several updates in a text capsule at the top as information became available. However, we have a critter brewing in the Gulf of Mexico now with a 70 percent chance of becoming a hurricane before long which should be spiking interest in this hub and my views should have spiked. Not so. It has not happened this time around. So I guess I need to bait my traps or something with some fresh meat to pull the viewers in, lol.
That being said, no improvement in my overall views as of yet. This is after pulling down all RSS feeds and such as discussed in a previous thread. I have a wonderful harvest of zeros on my stats page. I wonder if there is a market for zeros?
Good thing I have a "regular" job to pay the bills. However, the additional income from my work on HP was welcome and always will be welcome. I know I am but a small fish in a large pond, and many here make much more serious income from their hubs and I do feel for them if they are experiencing the drops in numbers that I have. HP has some wonderful contributors on a lovely selection of topics. One of the best sites I have ran across. As posted in my Alexa stats, this site ranks at about 299! That is out of the millions out there. So the site has a good ranking. Now, if we can just figure out what is going on, give the proper medical attention or be given advice on what we, the individual Hubber, can do, to help in this situation other than wait it out until we drop off the map entirely and have even a harder climb back up in the rankings.
I did think that the original panda traffic collapse happened at the start of the year last year, when my last regular payment actually happened. It has been more then a year now and it sucks because payouts were getting regular and now, once a year if I am lucky?!?! Google is driving me nuts I gotta say
- Bobbeachamposted 12 years ago0
Oh no! How frustrating for you! At least you can be pretty certain that you will make payout next month!
Like some have mentioned earlier, the latest changes have put tons of junk at the top of some searches. While trying to find a former highly ranked hub of mine I noticed tons of Ehow articles listed with only short sections of text outranking many more thorough and illustrated articles instead.
The system stinks! Bottom line is, HP appears to be penalized for former transgressions with us being caught right in the middle of it.
I work on revenue sharing niche sites (yes, different sites for different niche) which pay cash as well. But I doubt you would like to work there because they are Indian sites and I know you guys have difficulty trusting those
However, their Adsense revenue share is not like of HPs where you divide the impressions, instead they use the Adsense API to cut 10% of their share i.e. both earn something for each click.
There is a catch however, you can get cash as well for your work but with limited Adsense period (1-5 years depending on loyalty) or no cash and 90% Adsense for lifetime.
Oh, I see! I'll have to experiment. Thank you
The first 4 results on my Google SERP for badly drawn stick figures are for youtube videos. Perhaps you need to make a video about drawing stick figures
I think for anyone whose traffic has taken a hit, trying to figure out the cause is a really difficult task. There seem to be many "guesses" but no solid answers. And I think the reason there is no real or official answer is because there are way too many moving parts that can affect traffic. Any change, seemingly big or small, by either Google, HubPages or Hub authors, or all three (as is most likely the case), can impact a subdomain's traffic. And I think this is why HP cannot give a blanket answer, especially since we're not all experiencing traffic problems.
This much is obvious, the success of HubPages is fully dependent on the success of Hubbers so I have no doubt that all the changes they make, whether we prefer them or not, are done so with an eye on improving traffic, impressions and earnings.
That being said, it seems to me that a lot of people who have lost a lot of traffic are Hubbers who have been around a lot longer than me. I started writing here about 11 months ago. Below are graphs of my traffic (Google Analytics) next to graphs of HP's traffic (Quantcast).
All graphs represent July 2011-June 2012.
ktrapp pageviews
HubPages pageviews
ktrapp visits
HubPages visits
If you look at the second 6 months of the graph, you can see that my traffic patterns closely mimic those of HP overall. In June my subdomain and all of HubPages has experienced a slight decrease in visitors (probably seasonal) but pageviews have increased.
The reason I point all of this out is just because I think it highlights why it's difficult for HP to explain why some subdomains are losing traffic (I guess overnight in some cases) and others are maintaining or even increasing their current traffic levels. It's not the case for everyone.
I may not always comment on these traffic-related forums, but one thing I've noticed from reading a lot of them is that it seems like quite a few of the people with traffic drops have older accounts. I think the graphs on the success stories page indicate this as well.
Here's a graph of HubPages pageviews from January 2010-June 2012:
I entered HubPages to the right of the big Panda dip, which the introduction of subdomains resolved for the most part. So as long as I produce quality content on topics that searchers care about on a steady basis my pageviews seems to remain steady or improve. So I think the traffic drops are very subdomain-specific, which makes me think the cause has something more to do with how Google's updates are reacting to specific subdomains and not HubPages as a whole.
But like everyone else, this is all just supposition based on a few graphs and my experience.If so, I'm glad I wasn't around for that Ice Age last spring/summer.
"...there are way too many moving parts that can affect traffic. Any change, seemingly big or small, by either Google, HubPages or Hub authors, or all three (as is most likely the case), can impact a subdomain's traffic. And I think this is why HP cannot give a blanket answer..."
Yes, this is very true. I think some hubbers are looking for simple answers where none can be given or found. All anyone can do is listen to Google, HubPages, other hubbers etc. say and take an "educated guess" at what course of action to take. I have suffered a 50% crash - it's very disappointing but I don't intend to start ranting at anyone!
A sad updated "success" story 1K pages
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