Why it is difficult for so many people to understand that people are paid accord

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   gmwilliamsposted 9 years ago

   Why it is difficult for so many people to understand that people are paid according to their
   
   worth whether it is education, talent/skill set, or a combination of both?  There ARE people who refuse to acknowledge that there are some people who are worth millions in terms of their education or talent/skill forte while those who possess lesser forte in terms of education or talent/skill are paid in accordance to their particular skill level.
   
   

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   kj forceposted 9 years ago

   Perhaps it's best said as " stupid is as stupid does "...there are a percentage of people in this world that regardless what is truth will never accept it and regardless of level of education.. a teacher is a teacher ..and no amount of explanation will sink into their brain. they are incapable of understanding/accepting it, by their own means.... 
   I believe that this is called ignorance....
   interesting choice of subject question by the way...thanks.

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   Patty Inglish, MSposted 9 years ago

   I first noticed the trend in the 1980s, when some college grads felt they should have CEO starting salaries in their entry level jobs. By the end of the 1980s, the starting salaries in many employment sectors in my market area had dropped by $10K and I was appalled. We are an At Will employment state, so unless contracts exist, the squeaky wheel mentioned gets fired, not a raise.
   
   I noticed in the 1990s, a trend for merit pay raises and higher starting  salaries for the skilled/hard workers to be criticized by those who cannot produce the same work. Now, a cadre wants to prevent any recognition of better work anywhere, elimination of any recognition for good workers, etc. But they forget that we have Continuous Improvement built into raise/performance reviews and they will lose their jobs anyway.
   
   I am angry that in the 2010s, hard, smart, talented workers of any race, gender, ethnicity, whatever, are bullied by lesser producers some places in this country - school and work - at the first sign of higher accomplishment. From 1980 - 2015 is 35 years of de-evolution in merit-based rewards. In a few places, those who work least are paid most.

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, the squeaky wheel I mentioned was general public, not workers at the workplace. As for talented workers being bullied, that is supply and demand. Too many Americans with degrees for the amount of jobs that need a degree. I am running out of space

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      Patty Inglish, MSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think so. In my market area, anyone who does well is bullied at work, at school, in some churches, and in clubs. We have tons of jobs available at high wages and tons more at moderate and beginning wages;and not enough workers to fill them.

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   M. T. Dremerposted 9 years ago

   Because they aren't. A college dropout has a good idea and hits it big, making millions, while a student who earns a masters degree struggles to get a job just above minimum wage. A single mom works two jobs and takes night classes in the hopes of getting a career, while another woman gets a high paying modeling job just because she was lucky enough to be born pretty. A highly educated introvert with a lot of good ideas gets passed over for that job opening because that other guy, with less education, is more personable.
   
   These are just a few instances of how, in reality, people are not paid what they're worth. Education and trade skills do help, as does hard work and vigilance, but there will always be that X factor that separates the haves from the have-nots. And the X factor is almost always something we can't control like birth-rights, whims of the mainstream, and dumb luck.

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I've known pretty girls that weren't models, great baseball players who didn't go pro, and smart people who made low wages. Destiny rewards those who are bold. That is something that can't be taught.

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      Billie Kelpinposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      M.T. Dremer, BizWhiz, I totally agree. In the middle of the bell curve, there is an "x" factor.  However, maybe at the right-handed extreme where neurosurgeons and astronauts reside, worth is determined solely by education, talent, and intelligence.

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Very true, but it takes the x factor to make it through the education and training 2 b those. I have a nephew that is very intelligent and wants to be a doctor, but he is too lazy. He would rather coast than push his limits.

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   Kiss andTalesposted 9 years ago

   Education is valuable , but in this system of the world we would have to admit all is not fair. Many people have spent most of their life being educated , they find them self in debt , even student debt, they highly believe in the system , but the system has failed many, what about the many who put their trust in their Government as soldiers and are  veterans , where is there support when injured, and become disable,  hidden records a back logs , people who have died and never helped. Let's face it , education is very important.  But there is an education that is higher then man made .
   The language is that of the most High supreme of the Universe and will stand forever. 
   Many people believe they know this knowledge but they do not even know the theme of this education.

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   Karine Gordineerposted 9 years ago

   I don't agree that people are paid according to their worth & trying to draw such correlations is overly simplistic. First of all who is going to define "worth"? And should we be looking at "worth" or actually "value"? Looking at the salaries of sports "stars", it's hideous the amount of money they make just because they can "dribble a ball" when other people like teachers may be struggling to get by. Education wise I would guess that most teachers have more education than most sports stars and I would have to argue a sports stars actual "worth" to our society. I personally don't choose to watch professional sports because I think it's an overpaid, wasteful, corrupt industry. Many of these players get into trouble with drugs, steroids, partying, criminal behavior etc....I don't see the value in that for our children or even adults who seem to even more so than the children want to emulate the bad behavior displayed by sports starts, actors, reality stars and the like. If we're looking at worth as defined by a person's education then how do you explain Bill Gates who dropped out of Harvard? Or the other myriad individuals without a college education who make millions - both on doing things that I would consider of value & some who create absolutely nothing. I have seen some people work very hard & get paid very well for it. I have also seen other people work very hard and get passed over for promotions just because they didn't "play the game" or weren't part of the office click. Hardly fair. Not withstanding women are often the target of this type of inequality. Women still only earn $.77 cents for every dollar a man earns regardless of education.
   
   & you can't overlook economic inequality. People think that poor people can just get an education but that's not so and many middle class even fall in-between the cracks. When I was growing up financial aid said my parents should be able to contribute x amount of $ but my mother didn't have the money and wasn't going to help. I was ignorant to the whole process, so despite graduating in the top 10% of my class, I had no idea you had to apply for grants. I thought they gave them to you out of merit. Funny.I spent the rest of my adult life going to school when I could, which was very hard. Where I lived there weren't jobs that paid a living wage so I always had a long commute. I had to work, go to school then stop while I paid it off & go to school again. I've worked very hard my entire life & I'm hardly wealthy.

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   Say Yes To Lifeposted 9 years ago

   Among the lowest paid people in America are farmers.  Yet, if they were done away with, how would we eat?

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      TheBizWhizposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It is sad to say, but by outsourcing it the way everything else is. That is the rate we r going. 1000's of farmland acreage a day are being sold and turned n2 suburban neighborhoods. Soon it will be too expensive to produce food n the US.

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   cam8510posted 9 years ago

   Most people understand that individual human beings have an inherent value no matter who that person may be.   What many fail to admit is that human beings also have value as a commodity which is based upon skills and education.   While it is true, I believe,  that our inherent value is equal as human beings, as commodities, our values can be vastly different.   I understand that people find it distasteful to refer to human beings as commodities, but it is true,  nonetheless.

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      cam8510posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Grace.

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      gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Quite welcome indeed.

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      Patty Inglish, MSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      That's an excellent, concise answer, Chris.

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   aharrisposted 9 years ago

   I view any query that starts with the words, "Why is it...? as a sort of whine, no offense intended at all.  This is often the syntax of a victim who is venting about something he is powerless to change.
   
   Some things are just the way they are, right or wrong.  It is too bad that people who have not created a tangible thing in their lives get paid more than anyone else. Many make money by holding someone else's money for about 5 minutes before they hand what's left of it to someone else, while others make money by inventing invisible stuff that is cool, but is not the same thing as making an automobile, which is how people used to earn enough money to live a comfortable life for their entire household.. 
   
   Some of the underpaid people you speak of, like teachers, writers, and social workers, have a different currency.  It would be nice if they were paid their worth in coin, but they will accept the difference in self-actualization. They may not fully understand the life they are sentencing themselves to when their college loans first start to accrue, but they will get a reality check the first time they try to live anywhere near their workplace.  It was recently reported that in King County, WA, site of Seattle, 95% of people make more than $125k or less than $35k. The author cleverly described this situation as a city of people doing well served by people making their morning latte.
   
   http://www.shtfplan.com/commodities/the … r_03092015
   
   Don't get me started on how hard these underpaid people work.  It matters not.  And please don't rant about those bad people on welfare within earshot of me, either.  They are not the enemy. 
   
   The best thing any of us can do for ourselves is take a class in economics, micro and macro, both.  This subject is a perfect mashup of numbers and human behavior. And while you're at it, you might want to read a piece I found recently that explains part of what's happening.  It is not mean-spirited.  None of this is.  It is just the way the world works.
   
   http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/13/opini … ation.html

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      gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Mature people know this but there ARE so many people who maintain that some people should not be wealthy by the dint of their own efforts if there are poor people around. People are paid commensurate to their education/skill levels no more no less.

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    PeterStipposted 9 years ago

    People are not paid according to their worth. This is an capitalistic lie.
    According to Oxfam The 85 richest people are as wealthy as poorest half of the world!!! Do you think this is fair ? Do you think that these 85 people are more important or have more responsibility or more education or more skill then half of the world. NO WAY.
    The capitalistic system does not look at the worth of people or skill or education but purely at their bank account.
    Tell me what is a human beings worth ? Is a poor bagger on the streets of New York less a human being then Carlos Slim or Bill Gates ?
    Who is to judge ?
    There are great ballet dancers who hardly earn a dime and there are football players who earn millions. Is a football player more worth ?
    Nope. Capitalism is a sick system and more and more this becomes clear now bit by bit the middle class vanishes and only the working class and the top class remain like in the Victorian time.
    Money is a strange thing, but it is certainly not a measurement for success in life let alone the "worth"of a human being.

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