Mark Knowles-???-Who is this guy???

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   The day some people stop bashing obama,they'll get holy accolades of christinity peace & love.

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   rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago

   very true Daniel.
   labels are used to classify.. insignificant unless you're looking for m&m's without the m. even then they may or may not be accurate about what's inside the package.
   actually a label is simply a word.

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   Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

   Sufi said:
   
   "This thread has nothing to do with civil rights or free speech, however much you want that to be true."
   
   Oh yes it IS!
   Don't you know that civil rights, free speech, and freedom of relgion (meaning, freedom to IMPOSE one's religion, but only if it's fundamentalist Christian) are all the same thing?
   And are not only guaranteed by the Constitution (which also applies to citizens of every country with which America interacts-- in other words, everyone), but guaranteed by the terms of use of Hub Pages?

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      Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      How daft of me to forget that!
      
      @Mark - Agreed. Scott.Life was a great  loss and that other nice young guy - Peter, was it?
      
      @Ryan - That is her Modus Operandi. She tries to direct any thread towards the idea of civil rights and freedom of speech so that she can play the oppressed martyr.

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         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yup - and others like him. My way or the highway - that is the Kristian ethos.

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   Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

   Perhaps we should ask Admin to create a new forum called "Personal Attacks and Character Defamation"

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      Len Cannonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Legitimately laughed out loud at this.

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      Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well, it might turn into "Personal Antics and Character Defecation."
      
      But I am probably redundant. I believe it's already a given, in many cases...

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   Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

   Ooh, ooh -- there's another great idea for a Forum title:
   "Oppressed Martyrs"
   
   

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      Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      We could hand out some scourges before people enter, so that they can indulge in a little self-flagellation.
      
      Perhaps we could give them some nails and wood so that they can nail themselves up to a cross, whilst saying 'See, you ARE oppressing my civil rights and freedom of speech.'

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         Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I know a bank that would put up the 30 pieces of silver!
         Wait, no, I know LOTS of banks that would!

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   Diane Insideposted 14 years ago

   Okay Brenda, It is futile, some people will go on an on and we will never get anywhere. We have to just let him think whatever he wants. Money is all that matters, apparantly and you will never get through to anybody who feels that way. I say it is a lost cause and to coninuing to butt heads will not work.
   
   I guess if we made thousands, no millions on christian hubs, he would jump on that bandwagon too.
   
   Of course he will say he wouldn't but he has already proven that he would.

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      ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      "Mommy, when will it stop?"
      
      "It won't little Timmy, not unless you hit it real hard with a hammer."

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         Diane Insideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         yes pleas stop you do sound like a broken record.

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            Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Whoa - telling him to stop. That sounds awfully like you are trying to infringe upon his civil rights and freedom of speech.

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               Diane Insideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               lol, I said please.

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               ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Do non-believers benefit from those rights in America?

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                  Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Just for you, Ryan:
                  
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEFHC2KQRmE

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   Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

   Sorry, Ryan.
   My post was totally tongue-in-cheek and most certainly not directed at you!
   Obviously "LOL" or should have been inserted at the end so that was made clear.
   Things that are clear in MY head may not be clear to everyone.

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      ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yep sorry, I realised soon after, I am prone to the occassional sense of humour failure
      
      Normally after wild accussations from people like Brenda Durham and her new little sheep.

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         Diane Insideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         ha ha, I am not her sheep, Brenda and I disagree on different things but this just happens to be something we do agree on.  Deal with it!

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         Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Baaaaaa....
         
         (I just put on the sheep's clothing to throw you off...)

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   zampanoposted 14 years ago

   Anyways, whatever you do, don't forget to cover.
   Get your condoms right accessible in a pocket.

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   Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

   Now this is Hub Pages at its best.
   "You sound like a broken record."
   "No YOU sound like a broken record."
   "Oh yeah? Well you are a 45 with scratches"
   "Nuh uh, I'm a Blue Ray CD and you're a 78pm of Rudee Vallee that skips. In fact,you're so out of touch they can't even find a record player ancient enough to play you!"

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      Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Just don't harm the "Magic Carpet Ride" record. Steppenwolf is sacred.
      

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    Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

    Carry on, civil debaters.
    I'm gonna go save my own soul with some ouzo now.
    Catch ya'll later. Ciao. MM

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       zampanoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Don't forget to add WATER !

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    zampanoposted 14 years ago

    No problem man.
    Redundancy makes Information Systems more intelligible.

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    Diane Insideposted 14 years ago

    Hey y'all it's been fun exiercising my civil rights, free speech and all that but gotta go. Have fun debating.

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       Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Enjoy the evening!
       
       Now, I might just have to join MM for an Ouzo or three

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    Jim Hunterposted 14 years ago

    This is probably a stupid question but who is Mark Knowles.

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       Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       The Archangel at the Pearly Gates of Hubpages.
       
       He isn't all that selective on whom he lets in, however.

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          skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Lol

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    Lady_Eposted 14 years ago

    Mark K has been on Hubpages for a looooong time. A very talented Hubber who just happens to rub people up the wrong way sometimes? in Religious Forums.
    
    On some occasions he has apologised - so I think we should leave him be -  "let him be he and we be we."
    
    Surely, there's a heart somewhere deep inside him.... 

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    Joy56posted 14 years ago

    no there is no heart in him what so ever.  He a public nuisance, i am so surprised to see other males tickling the arrogant mans ego.  He is so annoying, and so is Earnest Hub.  Ban them i say

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       Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       For what?  For reacting to nonsense?

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       Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you for your christian words of judgment, Joy!  If you dislike either of these two great guys it only tells me you are not someone who's views should be trusted in the least. 
       
       Sincerely

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       ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Shall we execute them at the same time? Death by firing squad?
       
       Good we have decided.... let the witch hunt commence!!!!
       
       

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       skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, Ban all atheists. All hubs on hubpages must pass test of Christianity. All hubbers must donate 50% of their earning to nearest church for holy work of brainwashing(err in the name of charity for poors). All hubbers must indulge in activity of making remarks on obama(or anything that is secular or atheistic). Cut 20% income of non-christian hubbers till they convert into Christianity. Ban adsense account of islamic hubbers to stagnate their population on hubpages. Do it...Just do it i say
       
       

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       Susana Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       
       
       I've been here just over a year and I can say very confidently that they are both great guys who are an asset to the community and with plenty of heart - clearly much more so than you. And I'm not tickling egos, just saying what I see.
       
       If you have a problem with people challenging your beliefs, then maybe this ain't the forum for you?

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       Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Ah, so the Christian answer to this is to ban them.
       
       I suppose you would have no problem if we decided to lobby to ban Christians, Christianity, religions, worshiping, churches, etc. from our world?
       
       Is there no joy in Mudville?

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    Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

    come now, Earnest is OK...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    for an Australian, that is

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    pisean282311posted 14 years ago

    well why ban someone who doesnot agree to your views?..didnt get that..now whether one is christian or muslim or hindu or any faith or atheist..he/she has entitled to have his/her views..

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       nlowmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       In theory, yes. A christian often needs to "save" people from themselves. This usually involves banning foreign ideas and looking poorly upon those that disagree. Clearly, if you disagree, you must be wrong.

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          pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          

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    iantoPFposted 14 years ago

    I had to read through all 22 pages of this thread. I can only dream of having the same fame and notoriety as Mark. Those christians here that are upset by him should also be aware that among his list of fans are a fair number of friends of Jesus. So he hasn't pissed you all off that much.
    One thing I have noticed that seems to be a recurring theme is; Why post in the religious forum if you are a non believer?
    It's not that any of us visit that community with the intention of causing mayhem. But when you post or start a thread it appears on the first page of the forum list. So when someone starts saying that their god is "The One" and everyone who is not his slave is going to be damned for eternity, or when we see a thread that calls evolution satanic and anyone who votes democrat is not a true christian then of course people want to reply and bring it all into question.
    Christians are mocked because their posts do not appear only in the believers forum. Their propaganda is right there on the first page in our faces.

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       lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       As many people have pointed out time and time again, this is HubPages--not YayGod.net or JesusSavedMe.org. All of us are free to discuss our views on any subject in any forum at any time. If you don't want to listen to other peoples' opinions and beliefs, no matter how similar or different they are to yours, you should be posting on a Christian site and not here.

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          Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Not sure if you are aiming that comment at ianto or not (the quoting system can be a pain!), but it was a rhetorical question that he went on to answer
          
          EDIT: I fully agree with you, BTW

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             lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Ooopsie! Sorry, it's been a long, long day...

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                Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                hehe - very easily done. At least it's the weekend now!
                
                How have you been keeping, anyway? Long time, no see

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                   lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Been doing well, Sufi. I wish I could say that I sold all of my worldly possessions and have been traveling the world, but I'm afraid things have been a bit more mundane than that.

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                      Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      With the world going crazy, mundane might not be such a bad thing! Glad that all is well with your world

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          kimberlyslyricsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          NICE

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    SomewayOuttaHereposted 14 years ago

    ...hey, i missed all the action on here since yesterday...
    
    

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       Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       i saw 300 last night again on tv!

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          SomewayOuttaHereposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          ...really?...

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             Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             yeah.. the Greeks were the heros again

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                SomewayOuttaHereposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                i like this guy....
                
                

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                   Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   he didn't need to read.. the Athenians hadn't invented writing yet

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                      iantoPFposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      
                      And that's the Ugly Truth

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                Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                It just goes to show, the Greeks don't want no freaks.

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    SomewayOuttaHereposted 14 years ago

    i just like his expressions....
    
    

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    Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

    Can't tell the players without a scorecard.
    Would someone be so kind as to fill me in on who is arguing what today?
    And in this corner... the venerable Sufi and Irohner and Kimberly.
    Who is today's contender?
    Thx!

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       Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Kimberly claims that I am God, while I disagree strongly and point out that I am just an angel at best

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          Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I am thinking we need to keep this thread on topic:
          
          Me.

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             nlowmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Greek One does have his own now
             
             Just who ARE YOU, Mark Knowles

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             Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             fine..
             who is Mark Knowles?  I mean the REAL Mark Knowles...   expose him for the world to see..
             
             reveal his vulnerable flesh so that it may be gazed upon with curious Hubber eyes... vulnerable.. like a new born babe.
             
             Testify from the top of the watch tower...yell out as though perched gracefully on top of minaret calling the faithful to prayer..
             
             rip away the threads of the psychological persona that masks your hidden shame...
             
             and tell us once and for all when you will help mentor me so that I can finally make an Adsense payout

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             BDazzlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             *sigh* Oh very well ... you're a hedonistic, grumpy old rude curmudgeon who God loves dearly and would love to share single barrel jack with for all eternity.
             
             SO THERE!

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       Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Won't be here for long - just about to cook a ginger and spring onion stir fry thingy

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    Jane@CMposted 14 years ago

    I thought this would have been buried by now.

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Now, that's too funny Jane. Christians against Mark? And expect the thread to die out...

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    myownworldposted 14 years ago

    .... And all this time I thought it was just extremist muslims who took it upon themselves to convert half the world around them and 'save' our souls
    
    (Have to say though this was one of the most interesting threads I've read on Hp in a while...!)

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       Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well, there are the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses among the Muslim "missionaries." And there are some hubbers who are pretty good at selling their wares.
       
       Mark is secretly allied with one of those groups, I've heard. It's a way of diverting attention back to religion, thus promoting it.
       
       But other than that.....
       

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    bojanglesk8posted 14 years ago

    Oh lawd.

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    Adult Contentposted 14 years ago

    Mark is nothing more than an HP presence with an opinion.  I, too, sometimes wonder why he goes into some forums but--whatever--this is America.

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       Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       actually, this is Canada

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          Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          France actually.

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             Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             hahahahahaha everyone knows France doesn't have computers!

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                Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I am using a crepe maker - they work the same.

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          Adult Contentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          No I meant this --as is HP--is in America.  Sorry to not be clear about that.

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I can see a lot holes in your statement.
       
       This is America is one of them....the forums are GLOBAL and not restricted to America.

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       myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       oh c'mon now! Where's the fun in that? Don't you know we hubbers love to presume all kinds of deep dark things about each other?!
       
       lol @ Daniel... oh those 'witnesses' often coming knocking at my door (assuming I'm a muslim of course!) and hence pose a new, much sought after 'challenge' for them...
       
       And btw. I do give the OP credit for at least not blowing herself up in this thread - at least, there is hope for Christians...

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          Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          i love it when someone comes to my door and tried to convert me to their religion..
          
          I typically answer in my bathrobe with "Oh, thank goodness you're here.. yes, please come in... i am SOOO horny"

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             myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Religious sex u mean?  um, I might even have tried that except I think it'll be a huge disappointment...just looking at them... I get the feeling...

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                Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                yeah, but if it lasts 4 seconds, they wouldn't know any different and be able to criticize the performance

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                   Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   4 seconds - wow. You manage to last for ages, you Greek stud. What's your secret?

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    Daniel Carterposted 14 years ago

    Well, like, okay, Idaho here. It's in between a lot of stuff and nobody seems to know exactly where it is. But it's still in North America.

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    Elpasoposted 14 years ago

    Congratulation on your fame Mark!

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    frogdroppingposted 14 years ago

    Christ on a cracker, this still rolling along? Oh well ...
    
    Clearly infamy rocks and infinity sucks

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    TheQuestionposted 14 years ago

    wow.
    the only thing that could make you more infamous was if you got banned.
    this is america so say what you want . . . just don't expect anyone and everyone to care or reply.

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    TheQuestionposted 14 years ago

    a better question would be
    "who are you?"

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    Rik Ravadoposted 14 years ago

    This thread has strayed off topic - Who is Mark Knowles?  Easy, the half brother of none other than the exotic Beyance Knowles.  You want to know who came up with the Single Ladies dance moves?  None other than that nifty mover Mark.  And the catchly line about putting a ring on it too.  Yes, he's just about the coolest dude on the planet!

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    prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago

    check the link below and you will know MK has a heart more than those who are so called "Christians" (who are always in the forum to scold people for being not a Christian) -- I am a Christian yes but I also acknowledge people choices and preferences -- Live and let live
    http://www.kiva.org/lender/mark1536
    
    He can lend you money by not asking whether you are a Christian or not, am sure the lady who benefited from his money is a Christian
    Sorry Mr Mark if many will email you to borrow money

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