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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   And this god was a bit unusual for an omnipotent, omnipresent omniscient  god, in as much as although being all of the above was jealous, a murderer of all but 8 of mankind and managed to wipe out his subjects for all sorts of petty things especially killing those that did not believe in him.He killed off more people than all the wars have since.
   
   After he made himself, he became his own son then killed himself to save mankind.
   
   The saving mankind bit does seem a tad weird as he spent all of his time punishing and destroying his own creation because they would not toe the line, so he was saving them from the only threat hanging over their head at the time. Himself.
   
   As time went by he became such an incredible threat to the earth habitat as he caused floods, famine pestilence and hoards of insects to punish them all again and again until himself as his son decided to come back from the dead and save us all over again, once again from his father's or his own wrath depending on when he was the son or the father.
   
   This schizophrenia had a gentle side and as the son he offered all sorts of advice, but it still amounted to saving them only if they believed that the son and father were gods.
   
   The omnipresent part again was a bit weird as he never showed up!
   The Omniscient part was even weirder as although omnipresent and omnipotent he never lifted a finger to save innocent babies or dear old ladies from horrible deaths.
   
   His omnipotence was even more bewildering when he could not even feed himself and could not even sustain himself without the whole planet grovelling like lunatics at his feet.
   
   Then his son said "If you believe in me all your prayers will be answered" but in 2,000 years never answered even one prayer.
   
   After careful examination of the facts some people decided that to worship a lunatic who never showed up, never helped a single being and did nothing but make threats they would not believe in him.
   His followers decided to call them atheists and tell them they are going to burn in eternal hell and damnation forever.
   
   2,000 years later his followers have exactly the same mentality as they had back then. Any person who could think for themselves had to be converted to fearing and grovelling at the feet of the great god who would otherwise not allow them to live forever and ever and ever and ever and...

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      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      EArn:
      Ya outdid yerself on this'n!!! PRICELESS!
      I'm standing on my feet clapping and whistle'n makin' a damned fool'a myself!
      Take a bow!!!
      Encore! encore!
      Qwark               :-)

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         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I aimed to entertain.
         I am well chuffed that you got some fun out of it.
         Laughter, the best medicine!

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      dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      and the survey said..?
      
      add in the book of Earnest!
      
      lol qwark is right this is priceless.....lololol

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         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         OOOOOOh! My own book in the bible! Can I rewrite the rest of it too?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Praise God!   Earnest is still thinking of You Lord, even though he's got things a bit twisted (to say the least).  Keep thinking about him, Lord, I pray.

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         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I'm happy for you (I think) for being able to concoct those thoughts from this thread!
         That stretched my imagination!

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      Dave Barnettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If it were a rattler, you fellas would be in RIGOR MORTIS! Think inter-glacial periods. Think, " I am man, I've always been man, it's very hard to explain why you are man, even if you are not man." Pink Floyd. So many subliminals, you could choke, and yet, noy a decent clue between you.

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         Whikatposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Is this a new kind of English? Or are you talking in tongues?

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   sandra rinckposted 13 years ago

   What a story!
   
   In Gnostic literature it says that this 'god' was the result of ignorance.  The story goes, Sophia (the mother God) ignorantly gave birth to her son. 
   
   Now, Sophia gave birth to Ignorance.  Ignorance (the name of the god she gave birth to) didn't know he was ignorant and believed and still does believe that he is the highest god of them all.
   
   Now, Sophia repents...she realized her mistake -having given birth without a consort- and Ignorance is brought out of existence through gnosis. 
   
   

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Sandra, I have read a bit on sophia. She was not too happy to have this "god" killing and hating apparently.

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         pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         After he made himself, he became his own son then killed himself to save mankind. ...ya...sounds confusing..isn't it?...

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            earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I reckon it's downright insanity to believe in this crap!

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               kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        

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                  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  I know, I know! I should have been more Australian and said what I meant!

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      Deborah Sextonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Gnosticism says that?

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         peterxdunnposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Are you really asking someone to repeat what they have written?

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   kessposted 13 years ago

   It is always easy to see the false of god in another.
   
   But the real question is can you find the truth of God in you?
   
   Remember the false goes nowhere unless truth is with it.

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   skyfireposted 13 years ago

   Considering god is everything or existence or universe assumption-
   
   Universe > 1k-2k galaxies(there are more than that) > Milky way galaxy > Solar system (our) > earth
   
   - Wind god came all the way down to earth to make women pregnant and what we have flying monkey god-hanuman in hinduism.
   - Sun came all the way down to earth to make women pregnant and what we have karan the warrior(hinduism).
   - God came all the way down to earth to make virgin gal pregnant for the sake of his son's message and what we have ? yeshua.
   - God sent prophet in campfire of barbarian people to marry little girl, kill some non-religious people or anyone who were not from their religion and what we have  ? islam and Prophet Mohammad uncle (Please ban upon him)..
   
   and list goes on...
   
   Thanks theists for such Bull Sh*t religious delusion.

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   china manposted 13 years ago

   Just a 'by the way' - I thought the book starts with "there was the word and the word was made god" ?

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Blasphemer!
      Not in MY version of the bible it wasn't!

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   jondavposted 13 years ago

   Kess says i have to find the truth of God in me.
   
   I am therefore happy to anounce that i found it, so i hereby declare myself GOD.
   
   Please leave donations as even a God needs a little money. (cash preferred - i have now given up eating as i'm God, therefore i dont want tins of soup and stale bread). As a modern forward thinking kinda God, i now accept Paypal, and might start to use facebook/twitter.
   
   If anyone wants anything done (miracles and so forth), please email my support team and we'll ignore you: support@god.org
   
   Over the next few thousand years i plan on causing a few wars, possibly some deadly diseases and the odd natural disaster, none of which i'll do anything about.
   
   So as you can see, not much will change.
   
   You may now all pray to me. (cos im not listening)

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      kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If one has found the Truth, then what else does he need?
      
      Now is the time to have truth teach you or you would merely be like those whom you criticize.

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         jondavposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I'm God remember, i can do what i like.

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            kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Ah... There you are defining yourself as to the God you are.....good for you.
            
            ...But do you believe yourself?

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               jondavposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               it's just as believable as all the other Gods (except im the best one)
               
               So you gonna donate or what lol?

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         qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         ...your understanding of English leaves much to be desired.
         "Truth" as defined in English is: "Conformity to fact or actuality."
         Pls provide us all with how you came to using the word "truth" as it relates to this god thing.
         I'm sure you'll perform a fancy dance around the barn.
         Prove me wrong pls.
         Qwark

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      kirstenblogposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Not likely mate
      But feel free to hold your breath for those prayers!

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         jondavposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         ah well, you can't blame a God for trying...
         
         now where did i put my lists of plagues?....

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            kirstenblogposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Goodness, you are a very disorganised God, don't even know where your list of plagues is!
            
            Might I sugest a cannabis plague? Maybe have it rain from the skies?

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               jondavposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               oooh good idea.I'll get onto that now.
               
               And i don't have to be organised, that what disciples are for.
               
               ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
               posted via iGodPhone

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               Hokeyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Great Idea!!!!

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Jonav, (sorry, I meant to say God.)Do you also take cheques? I have one here from moses.

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   Hokeyposted 13 years ago

   This is just too funny!!!!!

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      jondavposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I hope you're not mocking God (me).
      
      You do know of course that i can strike down upon thee with great...blah blah blah you get the idea.
      
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      message posted via Godberry

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         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Not with the smiting and the plagues again! Geeeeeze!

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   god is an alien.....

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Jondav is NOT an Alien! That rumor was started by a filthy low-life non-believer

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   jondavposted 13 years ago

   I need to change my 'followers' on Hubpages to 'Disciples'

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      And so it came to pass that Jondav's
      fans became followers and then disciples and god (Jondav the duality) saw that it was good!

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         jondavposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I think you may have to become my marketing guru. (or demi god if you prefer)

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    Disappearingheadposted 13 years ago

    Earnest, considering Aguasilver's earlier OP, arn't you glad that you are:
    a) Not living in Pakistan
    b) Not talking about Mohamed
    c) Not a woman collecting a bucket of water

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Absolutely! I am also glad I am not a religious fanatic.

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    Paul Wingertposted 13 years ago

    Ernestshub! I (as if I had that kind of magical power) damn your soul to hell for your blasphenist ways!....Oh I'm sorry, I keep forgetting that hell is mademade too. Carry on.

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Paul may a thousand emus kick your dunny down!
       Oh sorry you don't have emus do you.
       
       As you were.

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          Baileybearposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits....sounds like a nasty plague

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    Cagsilposted 13 years ago

    What's up Earnest? Having fun are you?
    
    In the beginning was god.....
    
    Really, and what god told you that?

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       jondavposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       me

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Cags, I'd have to call on god to feel any better! Still got the flu, but feelin mighty fine on the inside.
       
       Come to think of it ...... he was a miserable smiting old geezer wasn't he?

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          hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          yes and now you have yet another flu...
          go figure.

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             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             guddunnit!

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                hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                he allowed it

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    Merlin Fraserposted 13 years ago

    I think the correct curse was,
    
      "May God infest your crouch with a thousand fleas and make your arms too short to scratch !"
    
    
    Might as well get it right don't you think ?

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Oh Pul eaze you two! Go and read Banjo Paterson's Bastard from the Bush again!

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    I will get banned if I post any of it here , but my hub is OK, it is not connected to adsense.

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    I'll risk this mild line of Banjos.
    "May itching piles torment you ,may puss grow out your feet, May crabs as big as spiders attack your balls a treat"

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       kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       earnest I am so sorry to hear that you have crabs? :  Get lots of medication and hurry so they go away quick
       
       I always believed In the beginning was crabs!  ;D
       
       

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    I dont have enough of them godarned 's for the timing or the picture and capsule!
    Kimberley you are funnier than a bucket of monkey's bums, and I like that in a girl!

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    Lisa HWposted 13 years ago

    Wow.      In spite of the (shall we say) tone of all these wise-guy posts...
    
    Humor in the religion forum!  I think this is a first.
    
    Oh oh...   I think I sense a strike of lightning about to occur on here...
    
    
    

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       kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       everybody stash your weed and take cover
       
       hit the deck mate
       
       NOW! 

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Oh hairy horror in the sky,
       please don't smite us passers-by
       "I'd like ta see ya bloody try!"
       That's what I said when still knee high.
       
       Should I copyright that?

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          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I call that "A love poem to Kimberley"

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago

    
    
    monkey bums-best term-totally stealing it!!!

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Now you're just being modest, you KNOW your the sharpest tool in the box!

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    I feel another rhyme coming on....
    
    or is it philosophy this time.... If gods don't need to eat (a claim made by some) where did all the sh*t come from?

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Another poser.
    When god wiped out mankind and left only a handful of people behind, did he do it because all the others were smarter than him and he got jealous again?

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    How many gods does it take to change a light bulb?
    
    
    My kingdom for a straightman!
    
    
    
    Work with me here!

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       Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Good thing we are both not gay. Or other wise, I might want to root you.

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          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          
          We have an animal here called a wombat that eats roots and leaves.

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             Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             you set the record for belly laughs.

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                earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I am having trouble keeping a straight face in the religious forum. Can I be banned for seeing humor here?

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                   Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   If your ever in doubt , just remember the story about...
                   
                   The children who mock the bald head of the bald headed priest. He then shredded them to death.

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                      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      And rightly so! Pesky darn kids! Very moral and god-like!
                      
                      I can't shred mine till they get outta kinder!

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    OK i'm off to bed. Goodnight all! It's been fun!
    I'm missin till the  morrow.

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       A new day.. OK it's a bit old.

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    Home Girlposted 13 years ago

    I think, earnest, you forgot to mention the Holy Spirit, or was it just a bottle of vodka between god and his son and an innocent misunderstanding of an ancient bible translator?

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Everyone's a comedian! or comedienne. ;lol:

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          Home Girlposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Crazy times, by laughing you live longer.

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             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Philosopher I see!
             Well grasshopper you have learned well from the mighty sky fungus!

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                Home Girlposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I beg your pardon?

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                   earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   The ether we came from.
                   Something got lost in the attempted humor.

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    Home Girlposted 13 years ago

    

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    Home Girlposted 13 years ago

    My working day is over, time to go home.

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I assumed you worked from home for some reason.

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          Rajab Nsubugaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          earnest, whats the color of your glass?

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             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             meaning?

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                Rajab Nsubugaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                It could be associated with the crabs. you may have to hold it in your right arm and shake it up. I mean the glass.

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                   earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   I am either slow tonight or your statement is obscure.
                   
                   I have no idea what you are referring to.

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                      Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Hi Earnest - I see you've crossed the 1000 follower mark. Well done

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                         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         Thank you paraglider, and I see you are coming up to it.

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                         hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         a lot of people like cars lol

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    hanging outposted 13 years ago

    hail your glorious leader and his fallen contradictions:
    earnest said:
    6) John 19:33 says that during Jesus’ crucifixion, the soldiers didn’t break his legs because he was already dead.  Verse John 19:36 claims that this fulfilled a prophecy: "Not a bone of him shall be broken."  But there is no such prophecy. The Israelites are told not to break the bones of the Passover lamb, and this is all it is about.
    
    Psalms 22:14 "I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels".
         A bone that is out of joint is a bone that is NOT broken, if you care to examine the rest of this messianic prophecy psalm you will see clearly it parallels the events of christs crucifixion. The john 19:36 is not a quote but reference to the prophecy.
    In your wonderful note about the passover lamb, yes, jesus was the passover lamb, by his bloodshed we are 'passed over' by the wrath of God and hence a dispensation of Grace.
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    earnest wrote:
    7) "When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt."  Hosea 11:1.  Matthew (Matthew 2:15) claims that the flight of Jesus’ family to Egypt is a fulfillment of this verse.  But Hosea 11:1 is not a prophecy at all.  It is a reference to the Hebrew exodus from Egypt and has nothing to do with Jesus.  Matthew tries to hide this fact by quoting only the last part of the verse ("Out of Egypt I have called my son").
    
    I wrote:
    If this is all that is quoted then this is all that applies. Joseph and mary did come out of egypt. Matthew says it fulfills, then it fulfills. I suppose there could be some spiritual application to israel and there is, but it doesn't really apply to jesus without some stretching.
    There are some other examples of half line prophecies but i won't be putting the time to research that for your predictable one liner reply.
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    earnest wrote:
    8) "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."  Micah 5:2 The gospel of Matthew (Matthew 2:5-6) claims that Jesus’ birth in Bethlehem fulfils this prophecy.  But this is unlikely for two reasons.
    
        A) "Bethlehem Ephratah" in Micah 5:2 refers not to a town, but to a clan: the clan of Bethlehem, who was the son of Caleb’s second wife, Ephrathah (1 Chronicles 2:18, 2:50-52 & 4:4).
    
         -Strongs concordance disagrees with your claim of a clan.
    bethlehem is ephratah. here's the definition of ephratah.
        1) a place near Bethel where Rachel died and was buried
        2) another name for Bethlehem
    You seem to be a little confused:
    Genesis 48:7 "And as for me, when I came from Padan, Rachel died by me in the land of Canaan in the way, when yet there was but a little way to come unto Ephrath: and I buried her there in the way of Ephrath; the same is Bethlehem".
    This is obviously a place and not the clan you refer too, i am not saying that there may well be a clan ephrath but there is beyond doubt a place called bethlehem or ephrath.
    
        B) The prophecy (if that is what it is) does not refer to the Messiah, but rather to a military leader, as can be seen from Micah 5:6.  This leader is supposed to defeat the Assyrians, which, of course, Jesus never did.  It should also be noted that Matthew altered the text of Micah 5:2 by saying: "And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judah" rather than "Bethlehem Ephratah" as is said in Micah 5:2. He did this, intentionally no doubt, to make this verse appear to refer to the town of Bethlehem rather than the family clan.
    
        -Because he meant the town and not the clan of which i am uncertain there is any such clan, however there is certainly a town. bethlehem and ephratah are the same name in different language, why put both in.. i dunno but i can't say that this speaks ill of matthews intent. As i mentioned before, jesus the lamb first, then jesus the king. Jesus will defeat assyrians and all else in that latter time, his return.
    
    enjoy!

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       Alatheiaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Assyrians?  Jesus is going to come back to defeat the Assyrians and all else?  Does that mean Christians too?

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          hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          lol you guys never understand anything about scripture and what gets me is you think you have all the answers lol and you never do but you keep on. If the bible is such a myth why can't any of you leave it alone. Why do you fight so tenaciously to keep that part of you alive? Why not let it die and continue in your life free of it? Why take up a battle against it at all if it is such utter nonsense?

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             Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Notice how no one here has ever claimed to have all the answers other than the believers, whose absolute answers comes from scriptures. 
             
             
             
             Religions are a blight on mankind, the worst kind of evil ever perpetrated on humans, the indoctrination into a state of delusional fantasy and intellectual slavery.
             
             Your post is a perfect example of this blight in which you felt compelled to fabricate a claim that states others have all the answers. It easily shows the inexhaustible supply of fabrications believers will stoop to presenting.

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Your explanations have been seen by every student of the bible since religion consolidated in the church of Rome, your "explanations" as convoluted as the original copy of a copy of a copy of what somebody said somebody else said, or the bible itself.

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       hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       You failed. Your contradictions are nothing more than sloppy interpretations.

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          Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          If you had a rational thought run through you mind...
          
          Well, forget it. You're not worth the trouble.

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             hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             then begone! lol
             i have heard your rational thoughts and i will raise you a
             a failed contradiction is more than just a failed contradiction. Its a lie to everybody, both christian and atheist.

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                Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Quit talking and the lies will stop coming.

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                   hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   you just lied

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    The results of gods love for mankind can be found here.
    http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/godkills.htm

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       Alatheiaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.          (32:27-28)
       
       32:28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.
       
       Yes! Nothing like an almighty smiter.  Better get on it's good side lest you be slain by it's offspring.

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          hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          ex 32:27 was gods judgment call FOR CREATING THE GOLDEN CALF AT THE BOTTOM OF MOUNT SINAI. LOL. The sons of levi.. the priests, we told to punish the people for worshiping a golden calf because moses was late in returning. And all this after God had set them free from egypt. If you think about all God had done to get them out of egypt and pharoahs army sunk in the midst of water... You see God is being very strict here. God introduced himself to moses and gave moses a few signs to show Gods power and thus convinced moses that God could free the people from egypt, who by the way had killed all the first born of israel just to keep their numbers down because they were afraid that israel was growing to large to control. We forget this small infraction of genocide because egypt did it, but when god removes sinners from his people all of a sudden God is unjust and a killer. Herod killed children but herod is okay, jesus is not.  LOL now you atheists are always on the wrong side of what is good. lol.

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       Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That’s how many people God kill in the Bible
       
       How many people have killed for Christ in the last 2000 years?

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          hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          enlighten us please.. cite if you will how many people have killed for christ in the last 2000 yrs.
          dates and religions included plz.

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          brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          forget it.. studying an answer might learn him something. It won't happen lol

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             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Afghanistan:……Extreme, radical Fundamentalist Muslim terrorist groups, non-Muslims. Osama bin Laden heads a terrorist group called Al Quada (The Source) whose headquarters were in Afghanistan. They were protected by, and integrated with, the Taliban dictatorship in the country. The Northern Alliance of rebel Afghans, Britain and the U.S. attacked the Taliban and Al Quada, establishing a new regime in part of the country. The fighting continues.
             
             Bosnia:……Serbian Orthodox Christians, Roman Catholic), Muslims. Fragile peace is holding, due only to the presence of peacekeepers.
             
             Côte d’Ivoire:……Muslims, Indigenous, Christian. Following the elections in late 2000, government security forces “began targeting civilians solely and explicitly on the basis of their religion, ethnic group, or national origin. The overwhelming majority of victims come from the largely Muslim north of the country, or are immigrants or the descendants of immigrants…”
             A military uprising continued the slaughter in 2002.
             
             Cyprus:……Christians, Muslims. The island is partitioned,creating enclaves for ethnic Greeks (Christians) and Turks (Muslims). A UN peace keeping force is maintaining stability.
             
             East Timor:……Christians, Muslims. A Roman Catholic country. About 20% of the population died by murder, starvation or disease after they were forcibly annexed by Indonesia (mainly Muslim). After voting for independence, many Christians were exterminated or exiled by the Indonesian army and army-funded militias in a carefully planned program of genocide and religious cleansing. The situation is now stable.
             
             India:……Animists, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs. Various conflicts that heat up periodically producing loss of life.
             
             Indonesia, province of Ambon:……Christians, Muslims. After centuries of relative peace, conflicts between Christians and Muslims started during 1999-JUL in this province of Indonesia. The situation now appears to be stable.
             
             Iraq:……Kurds, Shiite Muslims, Sunni Muslims, western armed forces. By mid-2006, a small scale civil war, primarily between Shiite and Sunni Muslims started. The situation appears to be steadily degenerating.
             
             Kashmir:……Hindus, Muslims. A chronically unstable region of the world, claimed by both Pakistan and India. The availability of nuclear weapons and the eagerness to use them are destabilizing the region further. More details Thirty to sixty thousand people have died since 1989.
             
             Kosovo:……Serbian Orthodox Christians, Muslims. Peace enforced by NATO peacekeepers. There is convincing evidence of past mass murder by Yugoslavian government (mainly Serbian Orthodox Christians) against ethnic Albanians (mostly Muslim).
             
             Kurdistan:……Christians, Muslims. Assaults on Christians (Protestant, Chaldean Catholic, Assyrian Orthodox).
             
             Macedonia:……Macedonian Orthodox Christians, Muslims. Muslims (often referred to as ethnic Albanians) engaged in a civil war with the rest of the country who are primarily Macedonian Orthodox Christians. A peace treaty has been signed. Disarmament by NATO is complete.
             
             Middle East:……Jews, Muslims, Christians. The peace process between Israel and Palestine suffered a complete breakdown. This has resulted in the deaths of thousands, in the ratio of three dead for each Jew.  Major strife broke out in 2000-SEP. Major battle in Lebanon during mid-2006. No resolution appears possible.
             
             Nigeria:……Christians, Animists, Muslims. Yourubas and Christians in the south of the country are battling Muslims in the north. Country is struggling towards democracy after decades of Muslim military dictatorships.
             
             Northern Ireland:……Protestants, Catholics. After 3,600 killings and assassinations over 30 years, some progress has been made in the form of a ceasefire and an independent status for the country.
             
             Pakistan:……Suni, Shi’ite Muslims. Low level mutual attacks.
             
             Philippines:……Christians, Muslims. A low level conflict between the mainly Christian central government and Muslims in the south of the country has continued for centuries.
             
             Russia,Chechnya:……Russian Orthodox Christians, Muslims. The Russian army attacked the breakaway region. Many atrocities have been alleged on both sides. According to the Voice of the Martyrs: “In January 2002 Chechen rebels included all Christians on their list of official enemies, vowing to ‘blow up every church and mission-related facility in Russia’.”
             
             South Africa:……Animists, “Witches”. Hundreds of persons, suspected and accused of witches practicing black magic, are murdered each year.
             
             Sri Lanka:……Buddhists, Hindus. Tamils (a mainly Hindu 18% minority) are involved in a war for independence since 1983 with the rest of the country (70% Sinhalese Buddhist). Hundreds of thousands have been killed. The conflict took a sudden change for the better in 2002-SEP, when the Tamils dropped their demand for complete independence. The South Asian Tsunami in 2004-DEC induced some cooperation. The situation in mid-2006 is degenerating.
             
             Sudan:……Animists, Christians, Muslims. Complex ethnic, racial, religious conflict in which the Muslim regime committed genocide against both Animists and Christians in the south of the country. Slavery and near slavery were practiced. A ceasefire was signed in 2006-MAY between some of the combatants. Warfare continues in the Darfur region, primarily between a Muslim militia and Muslim inhabitants.
             
             Thailand:……Buddhists, Muslims. Muslim rebels have been involved in a bloody insurgency in southern Thailand — a country that is 95% Buddhist. The army has seized power and has agreed to talks with the rebels.
             
             Tibet:……Buddhists, Communists. Country was annexed by Chinese Communists in late 1950′s. Brutal suppression of Buddhism continues.
             
             Uganda:…. Animists, Christians, Muslims. Christian rebels of the Lord’s Resistance Army are conducting a civil war in the north of Uganda. Their goal is a Christian theocracy whose laws are based on the Ten Commandments. They abduct, enslave and/or raped about 2,000 children a year.
             
             -List obtained from religioustolerance.org.

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                brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                religioustolerance.org can't even agree on their faith beliefs. Read the statement of faith on page      http://www.religioustolerance.org/statbelief.htm
                here are some positive christian stuff from the RT.org site:
                Some Christian and other groups have adopted the controversial practice of traveling to Sudan and buying captives' freedom. This practice does have two positive effects:
                bullet    It buys the freedom of thousands of slaves, abductees and prisoners of war.
                bullet    It focuses world attention on the profoundly immoral practices in Sudan.
                
                Well that hurried copied and pasted list only proved that when muslim gets to america you are gonna wish they were christians LOL. And i am betting MUSLIM is at the center of, if not the beginning of all conflict and christianity is defending itself and the ones unable to defend themselves.
                
                "How many people have killed for Christ in the last 2000 years?" was the original question.. the above are not killing for christ. Muslims are not killing for christ. Sorry but all that hard work has not answered the question, but you did enlighten everyone to the dangers of MUSLIM and their intolerance of any form of belief... all will be assimilated.

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          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Far, far too many.

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    No "devil" or other murderous sociopathic killers ever matched the "loving god" for human rights abuses, and human slaughter.

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       Alatheiaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Isn't it ironic?  The "Devil" never kills in the bible but God kills masses and is the beloved.

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          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          That is ironic!
          You would think also, that if they had read all the threats in the bible and believed them, why would they follow a deity that keeps wiping them out?

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             Alatheiaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             That is ironic!
             
             Also, why would they preach about how god is going to strike them down for worshiping 'graven' images or statues made of wood or gold or iron or whatever, but they pray at the feet of giant dead Jesus statues.

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                hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                new testament metaphor: the worshiping of graven images = NOT letting God be in charge of your life. Anything can be an image or a false god. The sin of not letting God handle all my affairs is equal to my not surrendering and not surrendering is equal to rebellion which puts a person in a wilderness experience (a place of trying and testing before one can experience what God has for them)
                Jesus was not a giant..and neither is he dead! lol. why is it atheists can never interpret any part of any scripture correctly lol. I guess that is why they do not believe because they are not able to understand even tiny scriptures, milk.

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             hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             We do not worry about threats. God is not threatening us. This is the beauty of the Jesus Christ dispensation, because Jesus went to the cross to die as a last and final sacrifice to end sacrifices - God, the father, is holding back his wrath and leaving it to the time of judgment when the believing shall be separated from the unbelieving, rewards to the believing and non-rewards to the unbelieving. The wounds that Jesus bore, he suffered for our transgressions (he himself never sinned and where there is no sin there is no transgression of the law) So by that one work of the cross we are free to grow in Christ. We are free to have a relationship with God, to make mistakes and to learn from them, for truly Christians go where no one else dares to go. So as we learn and grow and are taught by God we fear not, for faithful is he that starts the work in us, he is able to finish it.

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                Woman Of Courageposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Amen! Give Glory To God.

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          hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          yah and you can bet the unsaved and unbelievers last words will be "well that was very unchristian of God throwing us in the lake of fire".

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             Dave Barnettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             God can't be a Christian. Only man can be a disciple of Christ. Would you have God worshipping himself, praying to himself. Very embarassing. What would the neighbors say?

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                hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                christian ... christ like... if anybody was christlike,
                if anybody is christ like it is jesus christ.
                If anybody is me like.. it is me! lol.
                worshiping and praying to himself... depends on what the reason is... is he setting an example, being a role model. teaching us what to do and even how to do it... then yes i can imagine that.
                heres one for you
                What did jesus do with the body he resurrected? Is he standing on a cloud in heaven or did he hang it up? Is he seated on the right side of God in a comfy chair?

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    Home Girlposted 13 years ago

    This thread is not funny anymore.

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       hanging outposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I know its a never ending battle of refuting the stupid statements that are made and correcting lies, inferences and deliberate mistruths.
       some ppl have no God.

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    You will find quite a few in the list, and don't forget that GWB went to war in gods name. A self confessed christian who said that god had sanctioned going into Iraq.

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       brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       George W bush is a 33 level mason do you know that the inner circle of masons deals with satan worship.. so for GWB to go to war in Gods name, he is not going to war in the God of the bibles name but in satans.
       understandable now huh

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          Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          You mean it did not do it for christain votes, Wweeuuoo what a load off my mind................................not

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             brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             lol... whats a christian? A christian doesn't go to war and neither should we vote in warmongerers. I never vote, its a choice and i choose not to.
             If more christians were actually christians there would be no such thing as christian votes.

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          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Show me evidence that GWB is a freemason.
          
          Another myth.

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             brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s … p;gs_rfai=
             
             http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&s … p;gs_rfai=
             
             dunno why i have to look it up for ya.. don't you google?

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                Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                From YOUR links:
                
                "As of 1/1/2010 there is no record of George W. Bush being a Freemason.
                
                Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_George_W_B … YBkd"
                
                

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          Paul Wingertposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          GWBush was not a Freemason, He was a member of the Skull and Bones along with his old man. I don't know where you get your f**ked up info from but freemasons do not worship satan or any of that crap and anyone who truely believes that is a stupid a**hole.

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          Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Notice that after having made such an extraordinary claim and then following it up with links that state there is no evidence to support the claim, your credibility dissolved?

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    SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years ago

    mornin'/afternoon Earnest.....
    
    

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       SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    
    
    I needed that! Thanks!

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       Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       What meat puppet
       
       
       
       John Lennon? Offers the most cogent message that ....
       tell the whole world how I fell about a man, who for no reasons, died. ...
       Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too, Imagine all the people, ...

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          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I have a photo taken the night he was killed. We put a piano out in our street and sang his songs all night. Many neighbors joined in.

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    The links are both from the google search page. Hardly a search!
    
    
    George Bush is not a Mason. His father (former President George Bush) is not a Mason. And the Skull and Bones fraternity at Yale University has NO connection to Freemasonry whatsoever, despite what the person with the tin-foil hat wants you to believe!
    
    http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous.htm

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       brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       dontcha find it odd how masons are known to exist but nobody ever admits to being one. lol.
       People who do things in secret need to hide the things they do in secret.
       There is the bohemian club, the masonic hand signs. don't kid yerself mate things are done in secret and secret clubs are secret sects and the masons have been involved in levels of government all throughout history... but anyway i am still wiping the dust off my feet, you are just not talkable to unless someone agrees with you... deny all, live happy

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          earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Not happy with the link eh?

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             brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             i didn't read it. It just saddens me to know attitudes like this exist.

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                earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I read all links. Even yours.
                How do you have an opinion without seeing something first?

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          Paul Wingertposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          brotheryochanan obviously don't know crap about free masonry and needs to find something else to talk about. Have another joint.

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             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             We had a loon on here a year ago who was convinced that the freemasons were gonne kill him and only showed his torso so they could not identify him. He hated jews, freemasons, liberals and those he branded "rubbishists of which I was a full member apparently. He was hilarious too!

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    I find it interesting that religionists don't accept the words of their god, when quoted directly from the bible, and then manage to overlook the elephant in the room.
    
    Can any sane person imagine an omniscient god being unable to rise above the psychosis of a primitive people?
    
    This always forms a part of the blabbering nonsense about the god thing.
    
    A complete lack of logic, honesty and truth as usual.

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    Andme26posted 13 years ago

    I think is time for a new holy book Its been a while since one came out
    
    and earnest should write it in form of hubs, im sure in a couple of years decades it will pick up...
    
    just need to come up with a good name:D you up for it earnest ahaha

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    Paul Wingertposted 13 years ago

    I always thought there should be a sequal to the Bible. I mean the Book of Revelations left it wide open. Usually the bad guy, in this case Satan, becomes a greace spot at the end and everything is happy, fat, and stupid once again. Call it, The Bible II: Revenge of the Hell Master. Can I write the introduction?

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That sounds good! We can have a god as the good guy this time round.

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