Is witnessing to unbelievers difficult for you? Or Not?

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Eaglekiwiposted 14 years ago
All this bickering and squabbling...over the things of God

Does anyone wonder why such a topic stirs up such feelings of passionate emotion.

I have my opinion on that ,but of course it is just that ,an opinion.

No matter what I think about anyone or anything its important to respect that each of us has many reasons and circumstances that inlfuence us either to accept Jesus Christ or reject Him.

I respect that, dont make fun of my life choice,and I wont make fun of yours ,its that simple really.

I have rejected Atheism for the same reasons that you maybe reject Christ...

So that out of the way , Im sure there are is still so much to know and like/love /learn about one another. Like, how did you grow up, whats your town like, what kinda work did you do, have you travelled overseas, what do you know about me, or dont ya care ? if not why not!

I was just thinking today ,wouldnt it be cool if their was freedom!! real freedom within religion....and the Non religious.

I have this desire to host a giant hui (gathering ) of food an music for ALL religions

So if ya got some land I could use ,just sitting there, or a business that will donate marquee's /food drinks,( rather than dumping it) we could actively enjoy one another and live life ,that life that Jesus offered in 'Abundance' to overflowing in fact ...
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well dont all rush in to sign up
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Robin Layneposted 14 years ago
It's very difficult for me. Actually, most speaking up for myself is very hard for me, much less for God. For the former point, I grew up in an alcoholic family, where you "don't think, don't feel, don't talk." For the second point, the culture is increasingly hostile to talk about God, and Christ in particular. People assume you are trying to force religion down their throats--or I always assume that's what they'll assume, and I think often I'm right, especially in Oregon. Seems like it was easier in California. In my early Christian days, when I went to junior high there, I got teased, but at least I could talk about it. Nobody said I didn't have the right to speak my mind there. Nobody said they had the right to force me to keep my mouth shut simply because we didn't agree. People are downright paranoid these days, and sometimes with good reason. I keep wanting to find a way to share that will touch someone's heart. Meet them where THEY'RE at. Show them compassion. Often the way for people in my church is to find people with needs and pray for them. They say that no one turns down prayer. Well, I've found that to be untrue in my case. One person who was suffering with cancer even refused prayer. Why, I wonder? What are they afraid of?
I have suffered so much rejection in my life, and been so sensitive to it by nature, that the expectation of witnessing is a horrible burden to me. I think for the most part I need to start with secular subjects. Sometimes communication and relationship never go farther than that. People are SO hostile to Chrisitanity, partly because they resent being told one way is right and all the others are wrong. But ultimately, I think it's about relationship. How can you introduce someone to a relationship with Christ if you don't or can't have a relationship with them first?
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you for your trasnparency, first off.
  
  People are hostile towards Christianity. But we know that satan is behind it all. He does not want people to believe. He does not even want people to hear the gospel, because hearing they might believe. I sometimes forget that we are not wrestling against flesh and blood, but against wickedness in high places. It is really him at work in the hearts and minds of people, helping them to rejejct the true God.
  
  When it comes down t witnessing to others, I believe God himself will open the way for us to share the gospel with those around us. It could be through a comment the person makes. A question they may ask. A circumstance they are facing. The opportunity will come and then we can share our faith with them. And then the person may be more apt to listen and hear.
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  atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Awesome words here Yolanda! You go girl
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, sis.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The pathetic "devil in the corner" argument.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Truth is just that.
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  atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL
  
  yes He is both pathetic and finds himself in quite the corner
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  and is a man made concept just like his other half who can't exist without him.
  Understood in modern times to represent an aspect of self, the devil in the corner is when religion who created the devil then use it to explain why their god does not fix anything. We are expected to believe that god made the devil, to explain the human condition, that is all.
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  Robin Layneposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with you that Satan deceives people into rejecting the very life they were made for and most need. However, witnessing, like much of the Christian life, is not God doing everything for us, it is a partnership between us and God. You imply that when an opportunity presents itself I can always 1) recognize it, and 2) respond appropriately and promptly. The fact is, I am scared crapless to speak to people when I do see the opportunity, especially in situations where I or God can be rejected, period. Call it fear, phobia, or even a demonic stronghold, or all three. Sometimes I am able to share, mostly through my writing, but that is sort of indirect, and it's hard to know the affect it has on people unless they tell me. Mostly, as far as I know, I only reach those who already believe. You can't force anyone to be a Christian. I really don't know how other people succeed in saving and discipling others.
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sannyasinmanposted 14 years ago
Although I am not a "witnesser", I have been approached by witnessers many times over the years, and in many countries. I dutifully accept the offered copy of "The Watchtower" or its equivalent, and even read it sometimes. However, when I offer my own suggestions as to other divine writings which may be of interest to them, the response is always the same. No thanks, I already have the word of God in my hands, in my Bible. But, I reply, the Bible was written over 2'000 years ago. Do you think that God has been gagged since then, that HE has never spoken to any other writers and prophets since, ever?
There are many, many thousands of books which purport to have been inspired by the Divine. Can they ALL be wrong, every single one of them? I don't think so. The best of these books do not try to refute or change what is in the Bible, but rather to expand upon and update the information.
I don't expect to change anyones beliefs here, nor do I want to. However, as intelligent human beings, we owe it to ourselves to use some discernment and reasoning in the matter.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Bravo Sannyasinman. Your eloquent retort to what is an age old problem when trying to discuss ideas in an open free thinking atmosphere with witnessing people is inevitably cut short by the I don't care to discuss what any other religion has to say on the matter.
  
  It is almost like a determined brainwashing that is thrown in your face and the only headway you make is in agreement with the witnessing person. It seems to be a onesided expression of ideas without you being involved.
  
  I have said it before in this forum that those who believe the bible as the irrefutable basis by which all agreement must pass through should begin with a better study of the bible to prepare them for a more in depth search for God.
  
  Just go to Wikipedia and start a study of the origins of the bible which was ordered compiled by a pagan emperor.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Bible is the immutable Word of God, whether man (or woman) chooses to agree with that or not. And since you don't believe that, you should study the Bible closer for a more in depth search for God.
  
  Furthermore, Christian witness is not about brainwashing. We do not always know how to express ourselves at the right time or in the right way, but our hearts are in the right place. We are only human. Just like you. And as we walk with God, we grow, even in our witnessing.
  
  However, God can even use our mishaps to shed His light and love upon the hearts of people.
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  atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So right this is Yolanda
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  \Brenda Scullyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  i hear ya loud and clear
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atomswifeyposted 14 years ago
And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Matthew 5:47
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atomswifeyposted 14 years ago
Did you get my email yolanda?
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, I didn't. But I will check my messages. Thanks.
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  atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  no problem
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\Brenda Scullyposted 14 years ago
oh right thanks for that
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sannyasinmanposted 14 years ago
If you are so interested in following the word of God, I can suggest some more books for you to read, which also contain the word of God, which do not contradict anything in the Bible, but which expand upon and bring up to date the 2000 year old text that you steadfastly adhere to. You only have to ask . . . .
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How do you know that I am not already reading books, which also contain the word of God, which do no contradict anything in the Bible, but which expand upon and bring up to date the 2000 year old text that I steadfastly adhere to?
  
  But The Word of God has first and last say in my life.
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  sannyasinmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you are reading other books then I am delighted for you.
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yolanda yvetteposted 14 years ago
earnestshub, is there any way possible that you could be wrong about the Lordship of Jesus Christ? Any way at all?
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh really? You need to ask? I have been a Christian, and the JC story just does not wash. Like most biblical entities he is built on predecessors stories. The bible is self explanatory in many ways. The old testament shows the psychological naivety of the writers and their psychotic state.
  The new testament tries to disconnect from the old "hate and kill" in the old testament using ever more convoluted devices.
  The explanations of the bible are more than the book itself. Thousands of distortions, (god and lightning etc.)
  There are hundreds of religions stemming from the same tomes, yet you reckon you own the truth about this same god, who by now is hundreds of gods and still no agreement even amongst a few very similar religious believers!
  Statistically your chance of having any "truth" amongst those thousands of truths is sweet F.A.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Perhaps you were never really a Christian.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Years of bible study, Foundation member CBMC, oh yeah, I was the hole nine yards with belief too!
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  rednckwmnposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  you mean..the "HOLY nine yards"
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yolanda yvetteposted 14 years ago
No reply, huh? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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LEFT HAND OF GODposted 14 years ago
Faith is an adamant flint that strikes the mind of unbelief causing sparks to fly.
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
Some people can think outside the confines of flat world scripture written by men to control other men and subjugate women!
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Robin Layneposted 14 years ago
So, my parents did NOT indoctrinate me to a faith they themselves did not believe. They simply had books in their home, and, like many homes, the Bible was just one of them. If having books that kids are free to read is indoctrination, and indoctrination is evil in your opinion, then you must agree with the bookburnings dictatorships are fond of practicing.
Not meaning to insult you. Just taking your point to a logical conclusion, to make a point of my own.
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Robin Layneposted 14 years ago
Also, I would hazard a guess that you are not really against the indoctrination of children, only against indoctrinating them to Christianity. For if you have kids, what do you teach them? Safety? Kindness? Evolution? Obeying you for everyone's convenience, especially when they are young? Tolerance? All teaching is indoctrination, whatever the subject matter, and how true or untrue you or I might think it is. Are you also against education?
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  UpHisAssposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, yes Tell them again. Education is the same as believing in a GOD. Tell them until they agree with you. Witness some more. Evolution is a lie and must not be taught. Filthy scientific lies to spread atheism.
  
  Excellent job. Good work.
  
  More for me.........
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  Robin Layneposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Come on, you can do a better job than that of pretending to be Satan. He's smarter than the posts I've seen that you've made. For the record, I didn't say any of those things. But then, maybe you're not so far from part of what Satan does, which is confuse. Are YOU confused, or just trying to confuse others? If you are trying to incite anger, you're going to have to work harder. Hit me with your best shot. I'm very busy, but if I have time, I'll read it, and respond if it seems worthwhile.
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  UpHisAssposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No anger here. Un-necessary. You are the one who thinks that the church on every street corner and the bible in your living room and the preacher on the TV and the local radio station playing Christian music and "IN GOD WE TRUST" on your dollar bills is not indoctrination.
  
  You already belong to me.
  
  No anger needed.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But she doesn't belong to you ! She belongs to God. That's why she is so short minded. Only people like that can believe in God. Anyway ,she's doing a great job for you. Maybe in the future she will belong
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You have made so many assumptions, I think I will let you work it out for yourself.
  Education is the cornerstone for my family. We moved house to have the children attend the best schools for them.
  
  Education is not indoctrination. It just leads you away from flat world thinking.
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owurakwasipposted 14 years ago
Are there unbelievers in the world? I never knew that. At least,
everybody should believe in himself or herself. If you are capable of doing so, then you are a believer, in my opinion.

Sincerely,
owurakwasip
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  Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well Said Mate!
  Even more so if you give yourself an avatar; to help us find your hubs.
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owurakwasipposted 14 years ago
How do others access my hub and read it? Do I have to advertise any hub that I write, or drive drive customers to it? I thought everything was automated. You write the hub, and you wait for advertisers to pay for advertising at your site; am I wrong?
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Robin Layneposted 14 years ago
UpHisAss IS confused. I didn't ask if he was angry, I asked if he was trying to incite anger in others. And he doesn't own anyone. He's just a man. Touche on your name, Up! It fits you!
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  UpHisAssposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am not trying to make any angry. I am merely pointing out the truth. My god is more powerful than yours and rules here on earth, and you do his bidding every time you "witness."
  
  More witnessing = more conflict. More for me every day. Witness some more. Tell us how you were not indoctrinated and teaching science and morals is indoctrination and the same as teaching about god. Do it.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  FYI, I'm not witnessing to anyone. I merely asked a question about witnessing.
  
  And yes, your god is the god of this world, but only under the authority of my God, who is all-powerful. How's that for truth?
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  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Definitely the truth. In the kindergarten. My dad will beat your dad!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What happened? None of the others will play with you in the other forums? You must be desperate to come back to this thread. Eh, I understand.
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  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Uh-oh, are you attempting to attack me?
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, I'm just aware that this kind of closed-minded babbble doesn't appeal to you. Wondering what brought you back....
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes she obviously did try to attack you, neurotically, like her god would.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No one is attacking, earnestshub. It's all in fun. Though, I am passionate about my beliefs, just as you are yours.
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  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  She said she's just messin' with me Ernest. I can take that.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Appreciated, Misha.
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  atomswifeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol
  powerful yolanda! very powerful words in that! Amen!!!!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, sis.
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  UpHisAssposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Excellent! Powerful words that will smite the heathen.
  
  Fantastic stuff! Well done. You are winning !!! I have joined your fan club also. I admire a woman that is prepared to ignore the scriptures in favor of spreading the Word.
  
  Congratulations on your victory. !!!
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
I know the truth. The bible and the religions it produces cannot agree on it's meaning.
That is because it has to be "adjusted" to work for them.

Here is some more bible "love"

And the LORD fulfilled the warning he had uttered against us: against our judges, who governed Israel, against our kings and princes, and against the men of Israel and Judah. He brought down upon us evils so great that there has not been done anywhere under heaven what has been done in Jerusalem, as was written in the law of Moses: that one after another of us should eat the flesh of his son or of his daughter. He has made us subject to all the kingdoms round about us, a reproach and a horror among all the nations round about to which the LORD has scattered us. (Baruch 2:1-4 NAB)

A god that encourages eating your children! Lovely!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
HE is nothing but a figment of your imagination, and I am real. Get over it.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I love Him, and He loves me and you. And I love you, too. Deal with that.
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
You're better than the whole world because you took a man made belief system from a lot of old stories/myths from a totally discredited source?

Sounds more like inherited megalomania to me!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who discredited it? Almighty, earnestshub?
  
  And it's man made, however, man has distorted it (truth).
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Mishaposted 14 years ago
LOL some quite developed arrogance, too
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Lucky neither of us have had to rebuild a motor with an instruction manual that contradicts itself and doesn't have the right models or parts listed!
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  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh yeah, that would have been a nightmare to use such a book for any meaningful purpose. But then it already was a nightmare for 2000 plus years...
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  LondonGirlposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You've clearly never assembled anything from IKEA, then.....
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is tooo funny! .... because I have!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm actually glad you showed up, Misha. Looks like earnestshub could use some back up. I was starting to feel a little sorry for him....
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  Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, I admire his endurance. I don't have enough patience to talk to people who deny all the logic.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Logic. Yeah, a man wise in his own mind. Just like earnestshub.
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
We don't have to be very wise to see through you! You're a biblical legend in your own lunch time!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No Biblical legend here, sir. Just someone who is able to stand her ground. According to the Word....
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your version or one of the other hundreds? Oh that's right! Your the one who knows what it all means, the others are all wrong. Funny thing that, so many Christians, so much conflict!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  True, so many Christians, so much conflict. But not when you allow The Word of God to be the final say in all things. That's how I try to live.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The point is that all the others are trying to do the same, but you arrive at different conclusions, then all claim to be right!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There's nothing I can do about what others are doing or about who's claiming what. The Word of God IS what's RIGHT. I adhere to IT.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So do all the others! Hundreds of different beliefs, but only yours is the "real" one.... sure. they all say that.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I can't help what 'they all say', but as for me, I shall not be moved. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but His Word will last forever. Forever.
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  UpHisAssposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Listen to this one Earnest. She speaks the TRUTH. She has God's word and if you just accepted that - there would be no conflict. If you just bow to His will and follow the sheeple - there would be no conflict.
  
  Excellent job yolanda. Good work. Eventually you will get everyone to see that you have the TRUTH. Ignore the conflict. Eventually you will have made everyone agree and there will be peace. Well done.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Word is the Truth. I simply agree with The Word.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well when you have the truth you are supposed to have evidence. not a spot of it in 2,000 years from any of the "word" that you speak of. Just a lot of stuff that does not even scare kiddies these days!
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Father and Son,in heaven, and the Holy Spirit and Bible, on earth, is my evidence. If you think you can prove to me neither are who they say they are, go for it.
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  UpHisAssposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I understand - it is all these others who do not. Keep spreading the word. Eventually you will get them all to see that you are right and you are merely spreading the word.
  
  It is they who cause the conflict by not seeing that you are right. Eventually they will see that you are just spreading the word. Which is TRUTH.
  
  Well done. Excellent job.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Go back to the atheist forum. You're not on my level. Goodnight.
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
Whichever version of "the word" that turns out to be! You are unwell if you can't see the odds.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now, that's funny. Unwell? I think you better redirect that one at yourself, ex-Christian.
  
  You are a hypocrite. The very thing you accuse me of, you do.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, never a hypocrite, I live my truth, and don't have to walk around hundreds of biblical laws you break daily. When I left religion I left the lies behind, no hypocrisy here.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You live no Truth. You live a lie. And, unfortunately, I have not reached that place of sinlellness, as you obviously have. But when I do sin, I know how to be cleansed from it.
  
  If anyone says he has no sin, he is a lie, and the truth is not in him....
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  UpHisAssposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is marvelous. Well done. I wish I could join your fan club all over again. Such logic.
  
  sinlellness? Not certain what that means, but it certainly sounds powerful. Well done indeed!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How come you don't know what sinlellness mean ? Google sinllel
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  UpHisAssposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am just a lowly servant of the one true power on earth. The sheeple are helping me to bring him to power though. Every illogical "proof" brings him one step closer.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then he will come closer very fast ! If he's not right here now
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sure you use Mr. Muscle
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ok, so I misspelled a word. I know that's never happened to either of you. 'Sinlessness' is what I meant to say. Happy now?
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  LondonGirlposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sinfulness, perhaps? State of sin?
  
  You aren't exactly converting the masses, by being so rude to those who don't believe as you do. Rather the opposite.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then I take it you won't be back?
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Furthermore, I'm not trying to convert anyone. And I don't think I'm being rude to you or anyone else. It does sound likea personal problem to me if you think any statements I have made are contradictory. I can't change what you think, can I?
  
  If you can't stand the heat, you should get out of the kitchen.
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  LondonGirlposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not that hot, more like being savaged by a dead sheep. Fret not, I can cope!
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Mishaposted 14 years ago
It's always interesting to see what other people post. To some extent. It even can be entertaining.
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  yolanda yvetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree, and I'm only having fun with you. Glad you're not taking it in other way.
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Francis911posted 14 years ago
Not. Let them.
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Linda's Hub Pagesposted 14 years ago
In this world,seeing is believing.So I believe we witness by our actions.People will shut you out anyway if they don't want to hear what you have to say.But by the way you act is when they will want what you have,the peace you have.So I will have to say no,witnessing is not hard for me.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think I'll like to hear you. You're too proud for my taste!
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Jeramiposted 14 years ago
To witness to a self proclaimed Atheist is like getting a humming bird to eat corn.
No offence meant to anyone.
Converting an Atheist by reading him scriptures is like getting me to eat liver. Caint happen.

PS Let God make the rules as to who,what and when.
Ya might as well let God do it,cause that's realy who is doin it.
If I knew how to do his job, maybe I'd be doing it but I don't know how. And I'm glad cause with all that controll comes too much responceability.
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Pearldiverposted 14 years ago
Yeah... Right... Ok... Beauty.... Thanks for filling my Screen!

Please Do Not Mock DOGS huh? Kindly keep my MA out of it.

I can Assure you Mr. Dent that you have not referred to the word Dogmatic correctly! Your information is poorly researched.

For Your Information: Dogmatic - 'The state of movement experienced by your Dog when taken out of Neutral gear!'
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Jeramiposted 14 years ago
When a person has a predetermined mindset they will not understand anything that they are reading.
Interpretations that we have been taught from our youth caused us to be closed minded when reading scripture.
If we think that we already know what we are about to read we can not see what is actually intended for us to see.

I believe that correct understanding of the end time prophesy removes our blinders as to what is actually going on in this world.

It seems that too many people are relying entirely upon what the disciples said.
That is like dissecting an apple and proclaiming that we fully understand what makes the tree.
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LondonGirlposted 14 years ago
Yeshua? Joshua? Or someone else?
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