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   Wendi Mposted 15 years ago

   Sounds like fun...did we get any new shoes?
   
   Hi Laura,
   
   And Kim...have you gotten any sleep at all?

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   lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

   no sleep yet but i hope soon. i'm writing-always eases my mind-thanks for asking

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   lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

   no sleep yet but i hope soon. i'm writing-always eases my mind-thanks for asking

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   Wendi Mposted 15 years ago

   Have you tried watching a really boring movie?
   
   Cheri could probably suggest a few, huh Cheri?

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      lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      LOL

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   CheriAmalfiposted 15 years ago

   Wendi - Do you know what was an excellent movie?  Michael picked it out and I did not want to watch it....  "Tyson".  It was so so good.  Really looking into his mind.  I loved it!

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   Drifter0658posted 15 years ago

   Good morning y'all!
   
   Guess what? Those 'gators got a small chuck of my ass yesterday and like the damn fool I am, I'm going back into the swamp this morning.
   
   This time though, the coffee is a bit stronger and the sardonic sneer on my face is just a hair darker
   
   How's kicks on your side of the swamp?

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      lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Don't start with me Drifter, I haven't even had my first sip yet...however I have lived in Florida-ever seen a Gar?  (

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         Drifter0658posted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Oh yeah...a Gar is one ugly and mean fish. As a matter of fact, thanks! I now know what to call my ex the next time she spews on bitterly about me

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            lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Principles before personalities, now. )

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   lorlie6posted 15 years ago

   OK, coffee makes it all better...you know, maybe we ought to help out the-hopefully-sweetly snoozing Kimberly and start talking recovery.
   Anyone?

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   Drifter0658posted 15 years ago

   I have to own up to something. The Serenity Prayer has never been a source of inspiration for me.
   
   When I get to a crux, I write about it. As fast and as hard and as long as it takes. Then I throw it away. Those words are etched on my soul.
   
   For me, writing through the bad times is a lot like that guy in the movie Memento. He bolstered his inability to retain any memories by tattooing important information on himself. When I write through the crap, me words become stamps that remind me who I was and who I am.
   
   Damn, that was deep. I better start rolling up my pants legs before I post.
   
   

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      lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I feel the same about the Serenity Prayer, D, the Third Step one speaks to me in some other, more thorough, way...I'm really not
      a religious sort, but spiritual.
      Writing is new to me.  I started trying to write my swirling thoughts only 5 months ago, when I got this computer.  I am 53-oh, my!-and don't enjoy penmanship at all!
      But I love the keyboard, and this interactive business is bringing my subconscious out like..well..a gar.  Or maybe a wee bit prettier...

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         lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

         PS: I like your blog, you madman.

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            Drifter0658posted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Golly gee whiz...thanks.
            
            Never quit writing. I hate the pen too

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               lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

               No chance..but here on HP, I'm not sure I 'belong'-most of the 'successful' hubbers write articles, essentially.  I tend to go for the essay, I suppose you'd call them.  Theoretical blah-blah-blahs.  But that's my style.  What do you think? 
               Oh, Drifter, PLEASE critically FLOG me.  )
               Just kidding, dear, but do you know what I am talking about?

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                  Drifter0658posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  I absolutely know what you're cookin'.....mine will get to be he same way. Real soon too

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   lorlie6posted 15 years ago

   Gawd, I am getting sick of my own picture over there, I think I need something less 'intrusive'!  ) I look so damned pleasant.  Lord...
   Anyway, I need to see my shrink here soon, so I'll see y'all later on. 
   Lyricsingray has been such an inspiration here, I'm not sure we've known how to start the day without her, but she's in need of zzzzzzzzzzz's. 
   See you addicts later!
   L

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Good morning. I finally slept-jumping in the shower before I hit that pole - and will be back withyour' late' (sorry) meditation.
    
    I could even go back to sleep but the stage is calling my name

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Hey Drifter, chocolate does make you sleep afterall

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       Drifter0658posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Usually when it is combined with other devilishly delicious things

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          lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Amen

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    CheriAmalfiposted 15 years ago

    Here's a good one.  My sponsor wants me to read this every day......
    
    Property Lines
    
    A helpful tool in our recovery, especially in the behavior we call detachment, is learning to identify who owns what.  Then we let each person own and possess his or her rightful property.
    
    If another person has a addiction, a problem, a feeling, or a self-defeating behavior, that is their property, not ours.  If someone is a martyr, immersed in negativity, controlling, or manipulative, that is their issue, not ours.
    
    If someone has acted and experienced a particular consequence, both the behavior and the consequence belong to that person.
    
    If someone is in denial or cannot think clearly on a particular issue, that confusion belongs to him or her.
    
    If someone has a limited or impaired ability to love or care, that is his or her property, not ours.  If someone has no approval or nurturing to give away, that is that persons' property.
    
    People's lies, deceptions, tricks, manipulations, abusive behaviors, inappropriate behaviors, cheating behaviors, and tacky behaviors belong to them too.  Not us.
    
    People's hopes and dreams are their property.  Their guilt belongs to them too.  Their happiness or misery is also theirs.  So are their beliefs and messages.
    
    If some people don't like themselves, that is their choice.  Other people's choices are their property, not ours.
    
    What people choose to say and do is their business.
    
    What is our property?  Our property includes our behaviors, problems, feelings, happiness, misery, choices, and messages' our ability to love, care, and nurture; our thoughts, our denial, our hopes and dreams for ourselves.  Whether we allow ourselves to be controlled, manipulated, deceived, or mistreated is our business.
    
    In recovery, we learn an appropriate sense of ownership.  If something isn't ours, we don't take it.  If we take it, we learn to give it back.  Let other people have their property, and learn to own and take good care of what's ours.
    
    Today, I will work at developing a clear sense of what belongs to me, and what doesn't.  It it's not mine, I won't keep it.  I will deal with myself, my issues, and my responsibilities.  I will take my hands off what is not mine.

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       lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       awesome Cheri, thanks

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    CheriAmalfiposted 15 years ago

    You're welcome..

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    From Narcotics Anonymous Blue Book, 5th Edition
    
    Most addicts will see that control is impossible the moment it is suggested.  Whatever the outcome, we find that we cannot control our using for any length of time.
    
    This would clearly suggest that an addict has no control over drugs.  Powerless means using drugs against our will.  If we cannot stop using, how can we tell ourselves we are in control?  The inability to stop using, even with the greatest willpower and the most sincere desire, is what we mean when we say, ' We have absolutely no choice.' However, we do have a choice after we stop trying to justify our using.
    
    We didn't stumble into this Fellowship brimming with love, honesty, open-mindedness or willingness.  We reached a point where we could no longer continue using because of physical, mental, and spiritual pain.  When we were beaten, we became willing.
    
    Our inability to control our usage of drugs is a symptom of the disease of addiction.  We are powerless not only over our drugs but over our addiction as well.  We need to admit this fact in order to recover.  Addiction is a physical, mental, and spiritual disease that effects every area of our lives.
    
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    I needed to hear that today' hope it helps someone else too.
    Thanks,
    Kimberly.

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    Wendi Mposted 15 years ago

    Ok friends, it took a whole lot of tears, and a whole lot of strength...but I did it!
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/My-Last-Drunk-N … -Alcoholic
    
    Please let me know what you think?
    
    Thanks, Wendi

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       Drifter0658posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Wendi, what a terrific read. Was a brave journey.
       
       I'm just checkin' in to say that I'll be out most of the day, and also I want to thank you all for helping me keep my head straight and focused on the prize.
       
       You all ROCK!

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          lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Come back and let's rock together again!

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    CheriAmalfiposted 15 years ago

    Ugh - You tore my heart out.  That was incredible and so totally honest.  You'll probably get sick of hearing this, but I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!

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       Wendi Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       How can I get sick of hearing that?

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Here's my drug contribution for this week, now I'm off to read Wendi's - whoa!
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/wwwtruthdrugscom?done
    
    Kimberly, Thanks

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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       You and Wendi knocked it out of the park!  Both of you are absolutely brilliant addicts/alcoholics and I am honored to know you.

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          lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks my sweet pea, Lorlie

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       Wendi Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       What a great job Kim!  Keep up the campaign and let me know if I can help with anything.  Wendi

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          lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks Love, I still want to tell you again what a great job you did on yours-lets go to other forum and promote it-I'll watch for your name then tag it with your Hub,
          
          Kimberly

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Wendi, just read your article, was well written and went straight to my heart.  Thank you for sharing your story, it will no doubt help a lot of people.
    
    Go Girl, you Go!

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Okay, so here's my idea and I want your input.
    -once a week on Wen's we have a 9 am or determined time for a meeting in the forum
    -we would start day after tomorrow with the first one
    -excluding all the readings it would run for 1/2 hour and it would be timed
    -I would chair the first one and who ever chairs names the next weeks chairperson at the end of the meeting
    -the meeting would start with hello exactly on tim and who ever is participating would immediately introduce themselves ie; Hi I'm Kimberly a recovering addict or specific to each person
    -once everyone is in, and anyone can come late with a quick intro in the same way
    -chairperson directs serenity prayer in writing and a moment of silence is held while waiting for chairperson to type it out
    --topic is announced, chairperson chairs
    -now here's where we have to keep our order, to share you must post your name and I would like to share
    -so as to not have confusion or cross talk everyone waits until that person shares
    -comments can be made in reference but must wait til that person is done sharing then pass it back by stating your sharing next
    -25 minutes of sharing then close with serenity prayer again and open discussion if you want after that, or comments on meeting
    
    too strict?
    
    should we just share as we go - might make for a more relaxed environment and have chairperson watch the clock.
    
    I see it as an opportunity for recovery and a time we can all group together at the same time on a recovery related topic
    
    BUT that doesn't mean you stop visiting our sacred forum all the time still.
    
    If (and I hope you do) you respond to this can we try and keep it on the same page so this message doesn't get bypassed by someone who might need to see it?
    
    Okay, back to the pole and see how my 2 new Hubs are doing - something sounding quite off about Hubbing and a pole hmmmmmmm.
    
    gotta go go go
    
    floor is open LOL

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       lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       oops, see don't want too loose this link topic, oh gosh I'm talking to myself again.
       
       Psst; read my new Hub 'who am I?'  Whoever doesn't, chairs next week!

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    still twirling by myself

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    CheriAmalfiposted 15 years ago

    Nice job on "Who I Am" and I also like the "Truth About Drugs".  They should show that in all grammar schools, because that's where the thought begins.  At least I know with me. 
    
    Thanks for that.

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Good morning all at 1;30pm
    
    did anyone read my proposal few posts back?

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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Why certainly, lyrics, I read it, I've just been mulling it over. I'm leery of commitment.  Now I know that's my alcoholic/addict brain talking, but I must admit that I haven't even been to a physical meeting in over a week.  Given, my hubby had the Swine Flu, but I could have left his sorry self for an HOUR!  I am so out of sync with AA at the moment, although I know I need meetings.
       So maybe what I am trying to say is...well...OK, I'd be willing to give this a try.  You people here seem much less judgmental than the ones I know here in town.
       My hope is that this will not be strictly AA.  You know we have mental issues, dual addictions, many of us, and that's what P***'s me off about AA-not being able to speak of those dastardly drugs and our horrible heads!
       I hope to hear from more folks about this, chime in, addicts!
       We have so much to share.

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    There' a great deal of good rocking going on within these walls
    
    I'll do my next set to Rock in honor of Lorlie's big heart   :-)
    
    So glad about your ongoing support and participation here - how do we reach more addicts - I'm going to start reading bio's and see if I can't invite some nuts like us
    Cheers
    Kimberly

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Hey I wonderwho will be my 100 fan? Hmmm....

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       A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I would be but I already am.

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          franki79posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          
          I will! I will!

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             franki79posted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Then I remembered,,, I already am. Dam shouldda waited to join ur fanclub, but no doubt somebody will take that spot before the end of the day. Id put money on it!

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                lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Your adorable - and one of my favorite fans, way more than 100.
                
                Bless Thank you
                Kimberly

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             lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks Texan, you are a doll

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Still need my 100 fan hmgrggrrr....
    LOL
    
    Hope it's Jim Carrey
    Kimberly

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Got my 100 fan! oops, now 101 better go check - thanks for putting up with my anxiety LOL
    
    
    
    Thankswavegirl

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    R P Chapmanposted 15 years ago

    Loving the new avatar. Looks like your looking for Heathcliff.

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       lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       LOL
       
       
       
       Grateful for that Hub mate
       Thanks
       kimberly

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    Wendi Mposted 15 years ago

    I put this together for Cheri, but wanted to share it with everyone...
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANOobA9xKr4
    
    Wendi

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       lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       That was so beautiful I have a lump in my throat - very intimate and moving.  Way to go -
       
       wasn't sure if you saw mine-not beautiful or moving but a snap shot into a true addicts life -
       
       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCoQyqPEJoI
       
       Thanks for yours Wendi

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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       That was absolutely ethereal, Wendi-I really loved it.

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    Mighty Momposted 15 years ago

    Hello Kimberly and friends,
    I promised you (Kim) I would come by and check out this forum.
    Wow -- lots and lots of posts. You got a winner here, girlfriend!
    MM

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       lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Mighty Mom, your the greatest!  Please promise you'll come back soon.

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Good Morning
    
    Meditation for October 15, 2009.
    
    Character contributes to beauty.  It fortifies a woman as her youth fades.  -Jacqueline Bisset
    
    This applies to men just the same.
    
    How common is it for us to be overly concerned with our looks.  The culture encourages it through our families, our friends, the media.  Many of us anguished over our looks in years past, and the pain of fading youth haunts some even now.
    
    Perhaps it's time for us to take special note of the women we admire for their achievements.  We should emulate them, honor them, and celebrate their particular beauty-a beauty generally enhanced by dignity, perseverance, courage.
    
    We can cultivate our special interests.  They'll contribute to our achievements, which add depth to our soul-the home of true beauty.  Mature persons who acknowledge this true beauty are those we wish to attract into our lives.  How fickle is the beautiful face!  And even more fickle is the one who can see no deeper.
    
    Youth and beauty are fleeting.  Not so the beauty of the developing character, time strengthens it. 
    
    **The program makes character development not only possible but simple.  Each of the twelve steps, any steps, offers us an opportunity to take charge of our lives, right now.
    
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    Today I will remember, it's who I am inside that truly counts in the lives of others.
    
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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       This is fabulous, and what it brings to mind for me are women who have been through such struggle that their looks 'suffer.'
       In all of our efforts to be desirable, to be beautiful, some of us made awfully poor choices in our lives. 
       So, yes, Lyrics, today I will remember exactly what got me to this place of peace.

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    CheriAmalfiposted 15 years ago

    Mornin' everyone.  On my was to see my 93 year old grandfather today.  Had to get a really early start.  Wendi - I loved the YouTube you sent me.  I've been doing a whole lot of crying lately.  I guess it's good for the soul.  I really needed that last night, though.  I'm feeling guilty about leaving Michael for a couple days.  Although, I know Maria can take care of him.
    
    Anyway - We are going to have a GREAT time this weekend, Rock Bans and all.  American Idol - Here I come.......

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       Wendi Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Give Bumpa a big smooch for me and tell him I love him.
       
       And we had better be on the same team, or I'm going to whoop your butt on Idol!
       
       Love you!

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          lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I love 'Bumpa" great name

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             Wendi Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I guess the story is that one of my uncles couldn't say grandpa, so bumpa kind of stuck.

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Good morning al my special friends-slept 13 hours again! Must need it.  Although the Hep C really causes severe fatigue
    
    Oh well,glad to see your all doing well

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Welcome poetlorraine,
    
    So glad your here, promise to come back.
    
    Thanks
    Kimberly and all of us crazy ones

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    CheriAmalfiposted 15 years ago

    Wendi - You can just keep dreaming about beating me.  I'm at the top of my game.

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       Wendi Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I've been practicing all week singing to Larry...he's about ready to kick my butt out of here!

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    okay, what's up with the sisters?
    
    

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    Wendi Mposted 15 years ago

    Are you there Kim?

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       lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       ya, what's up?

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          Wendi Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          The boyfriend, his kid and ex-wife were going at it.  The boy stormed off with the mom, calling my boyfriend all kinds of horrible names.
          
          I'm ok, just a little sad.

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             lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Wendi, isn't it sad how evident it is when people are in such torment with themselves. We all know what that's like.  A painful place to be. 
             
             On a more realistic note, what a PUNK!

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                Wendi Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                OH, how I'd like to set that child straight...his father has given him everything he's ever wanted.  Unfortunately, one of those things has been too much freedom to do as he pleases....and this is what he gets in return.

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Lorlie,where might you be? It's you we would also like to see, and hear about your day for thee
    
    ?
    
    
    

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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I am going quite insane, Lyrics.  I am smack dab in mid-hub and can't seem to end it properly-or at least to my liking, that is.
       Perfectionism is indeed one of my worst character defects!  Drives me wild...

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    And drifter are you in the swamp again eating chocolates - the gators will take it from you you know.

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    Drifter0658posted 15 years ago

    It's the end of the day for some, just the beginning for others. For me, it's twilight time again as I feel another bout of insomnia coming on.
    
    Sometimes I'll drive my self mad with sleep deprivation. To the point where my body walks 3 steps ahead of the rest me. Then the slam as I catch up.
    
    Strange things, the human mind. Stranger yet is mine.
    
    I'll be in and out, whistling an echo against the empty walls.

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       lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       good your ok and an insomniac like me

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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       At least you didn't fly off in that balloon, Drifter-did you see that on the news?...Hang on, I'll be checking in on you, buddy.

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          Drifter0658posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          LOL...apparently the kid didn't fly off in a balloon either

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             lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Publicity stunt by a tweeking dad, if you ask me...

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    Beth100posted 15 years ago

    don't let me isolate!!!!!!!!  ahhhhhhh!!!!!!

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       lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       we're here Beth - your not alone,promise, I'll hang if you want

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    Beth100posted 15 years ago

    thank you.  I know that I'm not alone...just having the urge to disappear right off hubs and the net in general.  it comes and it goes, especially this past month.

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    Beth100posted 15 years ago

    I'm off...bye 4 now!

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    Drifter0658posted 15 years ago

    I'm as okay as Okay can be
    
    Let me tell you what drives me crazy......
    
    A long black leather coat collar being pulled up against the elements by a slender hand spray painted with a fine black leather glove.
    
    A black fedora tilted enough to shade one eye. Full, shoulder hair that flows from under the hat.
    
    The perfect bare lines that form somewhere inside the coat and elegantly trace their way to a pair of red stilettos.
    
    Ahh...lori, you can frustrate yourself over perfection while I writhe in angst about that coat.

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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Lord, Drifter-get a room!  )

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Goodnight friends, hope to sleep another 12 hours.  Working on 2 hubs at once is exhausting, well even one is tiresome enough
    
    sweet dreams

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       youcanwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Well, Good night, Take rest!

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    CheriAmalfiposted 15 years ago

    Wendi - Did he leave the house?  Is everything OK?  Oh boy.

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    lorlie6posted 15 years ago

    Good Morning, Ladies and Gent(s?)...How are you this glorious morning?  Who am I kidding?  I am up this early due to a nightmare which launched me out of my comfy blankies.  Well, here I am, so how are things going, Wendi?  I'm not clear on exactly what's going on, but I hope the troublemakers are out of there!

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    Good morning ya'll, just woke up, slept well, woke up knowng where I was and with whom.  No Coyotes in this bed anymore.
    
    It'sa good day.
    
    

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    I'm going to start a newbies forum-I'll give it a shot-drop by and support a newbie if you can.
    
    Thanks
    
    Kimberly

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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Will do, Kimberly, I got up the courage to start one too!  It's about the 'Balloon Boy' all over the news...glad your day is good this morning, I think the coyotes left your place and came to my house, I heard them last night yippin' and yappin' like mad!

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          lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          LOL

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    lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago

    where are you all? 
    
    I have no life
    
    check out new forum-newbies forum, welcome-
    
    seems to b doing well  yeh!
    

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       lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I am twiddling my thumbs today, not much writing being accomplished.
       No life AT ALL!  )

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          lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          me too and why when we publish does our scores drop wtf?

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             lorlie6posted 15 years agoin reply to this

             You're asking me?

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    Wendi Mposted 15 years ago

    Hey, I was placed in the Hubnuggets Museum of Wax...could use some votes.  Pretty pleaaaaaaase?
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/My-Last-Drunk-N … -Alcoholic
    
    Thanks, Wendi

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