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The Extreme Right in Forums

  1. Xenonlit profile image61
    Xenonlitposted 4 years ago

    The extreme right seems to like to control the conversation in forums all over the web. the temper tantrums and insane, off topic ranting is out of control here. If it happens again at hub pages, I will deal with it outside of Hub pages.

    My goal is to counter the extremist propaganda and to introduce the opposing view. If some do not like it, then too bad.

    1. JSChams profile image60
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "deal with it outside of Hubpages"

      ?????????

      1. profile image90
        HSchneiderposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Why outside of HubPages? The Far Right Conservatives run rampant on this site. Why should the Progressive point of view not offer their counterpoints? Is this FoxNews? I think not.

        1. JSChams profile image60
          JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          There are plenty of opposing viewpoints here.

        2. Xenonlit profile image61
          Xenonlitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I had posted a topic that got out of hand. I wish that Hub Pages would keep the political posts somewhere else, but mine kept showing up as the extremists started ranting about anything they pleased. Suddenly I was prohibited from posting on my own post. There was no way to kill the off topic rants and frothing rages. Those people were still allowed to post for several days.  I won't tolerate that.

          1. JSChams profile image60
            JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You just need to be careful. You got banned didn't you?
            That happens and saying things like you are going to handle things outside of hubpages won't help you.
            That sounds like a threat to some people. You wouldn't do that now would you?

          2. JSChams profile image60
            JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            So is there not supposed to be free speech here?

            1. jonnycomelately profile image86
              jonnycomelatelyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Free Speech" implies "rights" but "Rights can never be freely exercised without Responsibility."

              It requires that all persons discussing in the free forum comply with at least a basic level of intelligence, information, courtesy, fair play.   Without these attributes that so-called freedom will bring about its own down fall.

              People who push their own agenda and use bully-boy tactics are not displaying such attributes.

              IMHO

          3. tussin profile image59
            tussinposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            lol lol What do you mean you won't tolerate that? 

            This isn't your website.

          4. profile image0
            The Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Xenonlit, the moderators at HubPages have a strange way of deciding what is tolerated, not you. It's your problem if you can't tolerate something, not ours.

      2. American View profile image54
        American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        JS,

        were you just threatened?

    2. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      xenolit, I have had the same problem, I usually willtry to talk and actually have a conversation, but sometimes that does not work unfortunatley. My advice would be to just ignore. I had a little spat a couple of days ago, I do not usually stoop to their level, but this woman infuriated me. I didn't think I went too far, I thought she did, but the next day I was not allowed to join in the forums, I guess I was put in a 24hr time out, I don't really know, I was never e-mailed about it, but I assume that the arguement with the woman had caused the action. Now, I will just keep being respectful or ignore...lesson learned:)

      1. Mighty Mom profile image90
        Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Don't ever let them see you sweat, tammy!

        1. tammybarnette profile image60
          tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          smile

      2. Xenonlit profile image61
        Xenonlitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        YOu are so right, Tammy. When it comes to this joint if it does not PAY, I will not play. It's not worth it.

    3. Georgie Lowery profile image94
      Georgie Loweryposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The problem is when someone presents their view, we don't agree, one of us starts saying things that we likely shouldn't and speaking in generalizations and, the next thing we know, someone is popping a vein in their forehead, someone is frothing at the mouth and this person and the other one are getting banned. Introducing your opinion might cause some to get their dander up and then you go in circles again. We all have our opinions and, even when presented with information to the contrary, the likelihood of someone changing their opinion to mirror ours is slim to I-don't-think-so. If I start or am involved in a conversation that takes a turn like this, I just let it go. People rarely see a differing opinion as "this is what I believe." They hear "no, you're wrong," and it causes more problems than anything else. Someone who is going to turn purple from arguing with me doesn't deserve to have my attention, anyway. Either we can act like adults, or we should all take our toys and go home.

    4. lizzieBoo profile image65
      lizzieBooposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Lighten up Francis.

      1. American View profile image54
        American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        ROTF, Holy Crap, I have not heard that one in years. Excellent !!!You win best comment in this thread !

    5. kathleenkat profile image84
      kathleenkatposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Who made you the forum police? Hmm?

      I recall a thread where you mentioned that all Republicans are racist. I also recall a thread where you stated that Mitt Romney was mentally ill, then replied "yawn" to everyone who posted facts about Mitt Romney, then called either "racist" or "uninformed" to anyone who proclaimed they were a Romney supporter. Then, when I stated I would no longer participated in the thread because of its hateful nature, you "thanked" me.

      If you want to talk to people about "the Right" dominating forum posts, then stop posting topics directed at "the Right" and insulting "the Right" so you don't give them anything to respond to. It is my guess that you have to deal with "the Right" "all over the internet" because you probably post such agenda-driven topics everywhere. Try being respectful and open-minded to people, and you probably won't get as much flack.

      *Edit: Just reading through your responses here... Talk about the "takes one to know one" concept.

    6. Bubba Jones 111 profile image60
      Bubba Jones 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You ain't got much room to talk. I don't care if I like wut you say or not.

    7. lizzieBoo profile image65
      lizzieBooposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Can I just say that in Europe, the term 'extreme right' refers to facists, neo-Nazis and  racists. Do we mean extreme right, or are we just talking about people who adopt a certain moral standpoint on certain issues?

  2. Xenonlit profile image61
    Xenonlitposted 4 years ago

    Here we go again. Get yourself under control. I mean that I will handle things where I can moderate the comments and the discussion. I won't tolerate trolls being given free range on my forum posts while I can't.

    1. JSChams profile image60
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I am hardly out of control.

    2. JSChams profile image60
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You need to be careful what you say.
      You think everyone who disagrees with you is a racist.
      Give me an example of a good response so we have an idea......

    3. JSChams profile image60
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      What do you mean by "given free range"?
      I have been banned before for nothing more than insinuating the president was shooting the bird at the nation.

    4. livewithrichard profile image84
      livewithrichardposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Then perhaps you shouldn't start discussions here on hubpages if you can't keep up with the discussion.  If I were to start a political thread I would expect anyone that has something to add or refute to comment.  This is the whole point of having an open forum. 

      We come from all corners, large cities of millions of people and tiny towns with hundreds or less.  I think JSChams mentioned he was from the South, I'm from Chicago... I wouldn't expect him to have all the same concerns or beliefs that I have but that doesn't make his concerns or beliefs any less important than my own or yours.

      If I were to keep my head in the sand and only converse with like minded individuals then I may never grow or expand my knowledge base. I don't have to agree with people with different political ideologies but I can't just shut them out because of it.  And for me, if the discussion becomes a personal attack or constant mockery... then I just ignore that person or people.  I don't live in a cubbyhole and I know most people tend to be civil in real life and these forums give some people a level of anonymity to express themselves in ways that they wouldn't normally pursue. 

      The only place you get to moderate the comments and the discussion is on your own Hubs or your own forum but you don't want to moderate, you want to control... there is no discussion there and no reason for anyone else to participate.

      1. JSChams profile image60
        JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I can't quite understand how you are supposed to have these discussions without opposing viewpoints but apparently if you disagree with her you are out of control.
        I don't think she understands either how easy it is to get banned here.

        1. Mighty Mom profile image90
          Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          JS,
          I'm not sure if this is your intent, but I think I see real concern and dismay in your posts here.

          You're right. It IS easy to get banned here. In this contentious election season, it seems to be easier than ever.
          The line is invisible and it's hard to see until you've crossed it.

          However, if you pay close attention (which I do), you will notice there is, on most threads, a self-censoring mechanism. If one poster seems to be going over the edge, it is noticed and commented on.
          When you start seeing yourself talked about in the third person, you know you're in the danger zone and it would be wise to give yourself a time out! lol

          In many ways we politics posters are like siblings in a family. We fight like hell amongst ourselves. But we care for each other, too.


          Kumbaya everyone.
          [official liberal communist theme song. lol]

          1. profile image0
            JaxsonRaineposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            For instance, if JaxsonRaine comes along and says something to the effect of 'It seems like MM has blown a fuse!'

            wink

            1. Mighty Mom profile image90
              Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Exactly.
              I know you got my back, Jax!
              Thanks!

      2. tirelesstraveler profile image83
        tirelesstravelerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I am from California; you can't get much more radical.
        If you don't like the way a forum is going contact Hub Pages and ask  them to remove it.
        It works beautifully.

        1. JSChams profile image60
          JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Methinks the girl got herself banned again.

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            The Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Did Xenonlit get suspended again, JS?

            1. kathleenkat profile image84
              kathleenkatposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I would assume so. In my experience, he/she has something to say rather quickly. We would never truly know for sure.

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                The Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                She doesn't know when to quit. big_smile

    5. Credence2 profile image87
      Credence2posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I have run into that more than one, the rightwingers inane arguments and we are supposed to absorb like a paper towel, but they are always so touchy when they are called on their lies and misrepresentations.

    6. Repairguy47 profile image61
      Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Its a forum, we can respond if we want. The only rants are the ones I see from you. On and on calling people insane because they dare disagree with you, tough world ain't it?

    7. American View profile image54
      American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      X

      "Here we go again. Get yourself under control. I mean that I will handle things where I can moderate the comments and the discussion."

      Sorry to inform you, this is a republic, not a dictatorship. We have a Constitution that allows free speech, even if you do not like it and even the rantings you post. You got upset because several people called you out for the same things you do all the time. Whether you know it or not, you post the most uncivil comments, you cannot do that and not expect people to stick up for themselves. And hose types of comments is why you get sent to the sin bin for a few days and cannot post.

      Having said that, I agree with you people do get off topic, sometimes in a huge way. DO you want to real people in when they wander, post a comment that strictly reminds everyone of the topic and to please stay on it. Simple, clean and polite. I have done that several times on ones I created and it generally works.

      I am just passing on some friendly advise, what you do with it is up to you.

  3. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    Here's how I approach it:
    I try to start threads that will excite (or incite, depending on your viewpoint) people to participate.
    Serious, silly, fact-based or far-fetched -- inviting people to jump in (or on) with their opinion, that's all that matters.
    Where the conversation goes from there is a function of who finds the topic interesting/provocative.
    Usually, that means attracting a disproportionate amount of attention from the "other side."
    But who shows up and what they say is not my responsibility. It's theirs.
    It's not necessary to reply to every post -- or any post!

    After the OP, I don't consider it "my" thread.
    Sometimes I contribute heavily.
    Other times, if things become too heated or snarky, I walk away and say, "Have at it, boys (and girls)."
    Or leave and come back several posts later to rejoin the conversation wherever it happens to have (d)evolved to by that time. smile
    I may not agree with or even like what's being said. But hey -- it's not about me. I can stop contributing and move on.
    Luckily, there are always a ton of other threads to jump into!

    Regardless of who starts a thread, my responsibility is to my own posts.
    Period.
    MM

    1. JSChams profile image60
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Hey Mom guess what? We agree! smile Yay!
      Maybe you can help her understand that just becasue I disagree I am not a racist troll. I am not even sure she understands that.

      1. Mighty Mom profile image90
        Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        JS,
        I know! Pretty cool, eh?
        See my post below, which I was writing as you posted yours.
        smile
        MM

    2. American View profile image54
      American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      MM,

      You said it perfectly, and you do start some cool threads.

      smile

  4. JSChams profile image60
    JSChamsposted 4 years ago

    See we have to find a way to get Xenon to understand what discussion means.
    Even we Conservatives can have a discussion.
    big_smile

    I wonder if she knows Conservative women bear their young live?

    1. Mighty Mom profile image90
      Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      A noble goal, JS.
      Meanwhile, you've got the start of what could (possibly) be a good hub or forum thread:
      "Dispelling the stupidest myths and misconceptions about conservatives."
      Easily expandable to address the myths and misconceptions about liberals.
      lol lol

      I've gotta go work now.
      Catch y'all later. (Or to be inclusive of others here, "all y'all").
      MM

  5. maxoxam41 profile image77
    maxoxam41posted 4 years ago

    I'm encouraging you to do so Xenonlit!

    1. Xenonlit profile image61
      Xenonlitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      No, really. I have been doing this for a long time and know when it's a waste of time. At least this discussion got through to some people and stopped the ranting.

  6. janderson99 profile image84
    janderson99posted 4 years ago

    http://s4.hubimg.com/u/7287695_f248.jpg

  7. Xenonlit profile image61
    Xenonlitposted 4 years ago

    It's not that I really care about hub pages forums or being banned. There are better places to be than where the extreme right  dominate and manipulate. I will get my two cents in, don't worry.

    1. Mighty Mom profile image90
      Mighty Momposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      But Xenonlit,
      It's not fair to ask people to use tactics beyond what they know!
      Not everyone who posts uses dominance and manipulation.
      And even if they do, if we let it ruin our day, then they've won.
      Don't let them!!
      MM

      1. Xenonlit profile image61
        Xenonlitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I could not care less. Again. If it does not pay, I will not waste my time with it here. This is not a family or a community. It is a place to get paid.

        1. JSChams profile image60
          JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Why does an opposing viewpoint freak you out so bad Xenon. You should be a Conservative and all you hear when you come here in how Evil you are.

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            JS, present company excluded, but I know of who she speaks....none hear today or tonight.....have you noticed, I think maybe some of them are being punished...

            1. JSChams profile image60
              JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Well I was actually afraid she got banned earlier because there was some real unfortunate wording early on.
              It is not hard at all to get banned here. I don't want to see that because you lose the opportunity to learn and put forth possible good things.

            2. JSChams profile image60
              JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Go back and look at the first five or ten posts and she dang near came unglued on me for nothing. Literally nothing.

              1. tammybarnette profile image60
                tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                JS, I think it hurt her feelings, and I understand...it just happened to me a couple of days ago and I was not the one being insane....but I think the one's who have been very hateful are being punished today....it's been really quite

                1. JSChams profile image60
                  JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Well I don't see that I could have hurt her feelings but I may be wrong. I don't try to do that.
                  I use some strong thoughts and words sometimes but I respect most of the folks here.
                  Xenonlit concerns me because she seems to believe if you are not a Democrat....and ironically I am a registered democrat...then you ARE a racist. She seems to believe that motivates any Conservative thought and she is wrong. That's all I try to get across to her.

                  1. tammybarnette profile image60
                    tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    JS, You know I like you, we may disagree, but you are respectful...I mean someone else has been very cruel to her and then they punished her, and that hurt her and made her mad...I understand...I have been called every name in the book by the "disrespectfuls" It makes the blood boil...Have you read her profile? She is a very well educated person...it's hard from our side JS, we are the "love everybody" folks, it's our ideology, and we do not understand when those that are hateful bullies get away with murder...we want right and good to conquer the evils...in a nut shell, that's my two cents(mispelled on pupose,lol)

  8. rebekahELLE profile image87
    rebekahELLEposted 4 years ago

    Sometimes all I can do after reading through some of these threads is to chuckle.   I think we need to mute all political commercials, throw away the flyers and turn off the news, and stay out of political forums if we can't discuss and behave like grown ups.  It's politics!  Remember??
    Countering one extreme with the opposite extreme is hardly the best way to reach people.  It only causes further polarization.

    1. badmofo profile image61
      badmofoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.

      Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

      - George Bernard Shaw

      1. JSChams profile image60
        JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Then again maybe a man has the frigging sense to know that some of the people are led by the nose and he does not wish to be. It's called common sense.

        1. badmofo profile image61
          badmofoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Fully agree. For feelers, to be part of large bodies is their common sense. For thinkers, to be part of large bodies in nonsensical.  smile

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex...it takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction"...Albert Einstein smile

            1. tammybarnette profile image60
              tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              It is not the strongest of the species that survives, and its not the most intelligent that survives, It is the one that is the most adaptable to change...Charles Darwin

              1. badmofo profile image61
                badmofoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Precisely.....which is why I won't be voting for either one of those dolts and can't believe people are wasting time on them.

                1. badmofo profile image61
                  badmofoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  I wouldn't let anybody know I was out of it enough to consider voting for either of them. Geez.

                  1. tammybarnette profile image60
                    tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    badmofo, I understand and respect your point of view smile I am actually voting for Obama, I have reasons wrote all over the forums and in my hubs...but I respect your right to believe as you so wish, that is actually why I will vote Obama, I believe in everybodies right to choose.

                  2. tammybarnette profile image60
                    tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Badmofo, If a "feeler" is someone who has feelings, yes I am..I am not a robot nor a computer, so yes I have feelings...do they get the better of me sometimes? Sure, they do, I am human...but my vote can not only be about how I feel, sure I believe what I have been through in life dictates my personal views, my personality, but it does not mean I am not intelligent...and yes I would vote for anyone who represnted my beliefs...black, white, purple..man, woman, R, D, other...to thine onself be true smile

  9. badmofo profile image61
    badmofoposted 4 years ago

    Right. I understand perfectly. the initial subtext was intended as a veiled attack which was just restated here. That's cool. It's a formula. Subtext isn't slick. Just state what the heck you mean. I guess you couldn't answer my questions because they were meant as an insult. Right on. Nice try.Trying to get you to answer one question shouldn't be complex, but it certainly is. I already told you I wasn't a collectivist. DId you hear that part? I am brave enough to do something different, but it won't be through your organization. You brought up courage, change, and genius. I guess that sounds smart!, but you can't even make your insult relevant. Nothing I said is complex because it makes sense. What you said is complex. You have yourself a great evening.

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      badmofo, I think you misunderstand completely, but that is fine...it is not my org. another hubber started that long before I came to the hubpages...I do not need slick subtext, I am honest...I was not insulting you, not in my bag of tricks...was only making a point...and yes, you do have feelings don't you, angry ones...I do not understand your anger, I felt you were be condescending and I do not appreciate it, so there we are....

      1. badmofo profile image61
        badmofoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Funny. I haven't a bit of anger. I'm sorry you FELT I was being condescending (caught that from you earlier), but that's how FEELERS HEAR. Their FEELINGS create their thoughts. If you were me, YOU'D be angry. It's just an exercise. It's a different brand of brain. Why you couldn't answer the question is because your feeling were creating thoughts about organizations, family history, and all that other stuff. You are who the politicians and the companies market to who buy it wholesale. You are who doesn't realize that it doesn't matter which one you pick because 75% of each are EMOTIONAL so whatever gets to some majority will get one of their people (either one) in. If they try to do other than what the Crown orders them to do, they are executed. Did you notice the video of Jackie O immediately after John was executed? Did you see her reach immediately behind his head and grab something (whereas ordinarily people would have taken a few minutes to get their heads around that their spouse was just shot)?  What was it? The people who run this show call everyone "cattle". Did you know that? So all that stuff about who appeals to each side and that is.......it's a game show. Most of the people will be continue to be caught up in the game show.

        1. badmofo profile image61
          badmofoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Cattle are fully on both sides. Emotions have no I.Q.

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            More condescention...blah blah blah....Were our Fore Fathers a group? Are families groups? I can see your IQ is showing smile Enjoy voting for someone or nobody, I came to talk, have a conversation, not to argue with arrogance.....

  10. badmofo profile image61
    badmofoposted 4 years ago

    There was never any argument or any arrogance. Emotions and I.Q. was never directed at you. That's just how things work (doesn't matter how anybody FEELS about it including you or me). I was merely trying to get you to answer one question (introduced by you) in a cohesive way, but I got bored of that (not your fault.....just how things work). What did Jackie O grab? Why? That should change what you think about politics altogether is the point. Just that one little piece. No groups will be enlightening you to that. That's not what groups talk or THINK about.  wink

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      badmofo...I am not about groupthink...I love conspiracy theories, and believe there is always a slim line of truth there...If you are saying that the top is an Aristocracy, I agree...I wedge my bet, that if the votes DO count at all, then our people would be better served by a democratic ideology, it buys time....because it will take group effort if we face revolution or enlightenment...

      1. badmofo profile image61
        badmofoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I hear you (really do). Revolutiion or enlightenment still require mostly one's own preparation though. They don't call in UN monitors to make sure our votes are counted "correctly". it really may NOT matter how we vote (regardless of who for), but hopefully enough people have finally had enough to try something outrageous (which still may not matter) because this time we really  really don't have anything to lose.Nothing's what it looks like, but they don't have to make it look that good for us to just go along with whatever.  The conspiracy is what people debate each other about that doesn't even really exist while they do whatever they want. They were sick enough of Bush to try the black guy. Now they've really had it with both parties enough to be looking at some radical new choices. It should be interesting.

  11. profile image0
    The Longhunterposted 4 years ago

    Xenonlit,

    You do understand the concept of a forum, right? There will be opposing views. You can't block the non-Obama Kool-aide Drinkers.

    If you want to get into a discussion where everyone will agree with everything you say, perhaps you'd be better off having a Barack Hussein Obama Coffee Clutch in your own home where you can invite only like minded people. It would certainly work much better than posting leading questions like, "Is Mitt Romney mentally stable enough to be President?," then getting upset when we don't all agree to the point you start insulting other hubbers.

    1. Xenonlit profile image61
      Xenonlitposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You are a troll. I know trolls and I know how to deal with them. This means ignoring just about anything you post. Ever.

      1. kathleenkat profile image84
        kathleenkatposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Then why are you replying to their post directly? Like I said, takes one to know one.

        1. profile image0
          The Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I'll stick by what kathleenkat wrote. Some people just don't learn.

          1. American View profile image54
            American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            That sums it up.

  12. jonnycomelately profile image86
    jonnycomelatelyposted 4 years ago

    The best idea is to drop the "god" idea completely.    It's a nonsense.

  13. HowardBThiname profile image90
    HowardBThinameposted 4 years ago

    The important thing is to be respectful of others - even if you disagree. Calling folks "crazy" or "extremist" isn't conducive to a discussion.

    While we all have our own ideas - especially when it comes to politics, we need to leave the slams directed at the politicians and not at our fellow posters.

  14. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 4 years ago

    In America the terms: "'extreme right' refers to facists, neo-Nazis and  racists", means 'in waiting'.

    1. lizzieBoo profile image65
      lizzieBooposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Wow. I really hadn't come across any of those on here. Happy-clappy Bible know-it-alls yes, but not what I would call potential Nazis.

 
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