Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

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readytoescapeposted 15 years ago
The pay off is still on the way
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readytoescapeposted 15 years ago
I sure you weren't granted estates and full immunity either. bribing a majority of 5 electors is so easy.
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Lee Booleanposted 15 years ago
In Europe people are really wondering what he won it for... had a lovely debate about it today at work. Its a bit like giving the oscar to someone for a movie they will star in.
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Bibowenposted 15 years ago
It was probably a clerical error that he got the "Peace Prize." I think the Nobel Committee intended to give him the "Nobel Appease Prize."
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  They gave Clinton the "piece" prize.
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  Bibowenposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Along with the "Peice Prize" Clinton also was allowed to smoke the customary "Peice Pipe." However, he didn't inhale....
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Obama did, that was the point!
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A Texanposted 15 years ago
I keep wondering if this is April 1st, is it?
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gym-fitnessposted 15 years ago
good one B!
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lindagoffiganposted 15 years ago
I wrote a hubpage on President Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize and had to write around how the press was referring to the win. At one point the press seemed to doubt that President Obama had done anything but provided a platform to be presented the Nobel Peace Prize as if in opposition of George W. Bush's policy. President Obama was selected on a platform of change and not to win a prize based upon the shortcomings of a former President. When I wrote the article, I provided facts and the article is well written quoting responses from major leaders around the world.
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  Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Can I have my own opinion on this, independent of "major leaders"? Thank you.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I usually leave that one alone!
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livelongerposted 15 years ago
Seems like a rebuke of the Bush era, as was Jimmy Carter's selection before.

The fact is that the US, with its current military might, has a lot of power to start wars. To have a president that is relatively disinclined to do so has an enormous impact on war violence around the world.
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waynetposted 15 years ago
So he got the nobbly pea prize....hope he likes peas!!!
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Valerie Fposted 15 years ago
So in other words, Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for stuff he only might accomplish in the future.

Meanwhile, the Taliban's just claimed responsibility for a bombing that's killed 17 people, another bombing likely also courtesy of the Taliban just killed 49, and White House sources say we might have to accept that these murderers, misogynists, and Al Qaeda loyalists will have an ongoing role in Afghan society and that we should consider asking for their cooperation.

I am glad that our President has the grace to be surprised he'd won and that he's donating his award. I share his hope that he'll accomplish something worthy of it. But it hasn't happened yet.
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  egivposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So what's your all-encompassing solution to Afghanistan? You'd be the first to have one since, like, ever.
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atomswifeyposted 15 years ago
I laugh and laugh about this it is so ridiculous! So now the Nobel Peace Prize can go to anyone who talks a good talk huh? Wow sure does demean the prize I think as well as lowers its standard.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It was lowered when Yassar Arafat was awarded it not to mention algore!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Didn't Henry Kissinger get it while the Vietnam War was still going on?
  
  Those working for peace in Northern Ireland were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts towards peace, before it was accomplished. Arafat and Begin won it for their peace efforts.
  
  And...if the award means so little, why have people been talking about it and bitching all day long...
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Why wouldn't we talk about it? It was given to someone who has not done ANYTHING to deserve it. It is the perceived prestige that the award has that causes people to balk.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  And it has been given to people for working towards something, not just for accomplishing that goal. There certainly isn't peace in the Middle East.
  
  I bet if it was anyone else other than Obama you wouldn't even touch on it.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  "perceived prestige" It is a joke to me, But to others it may not be.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I bet your wrong Al Gore was awarded it and I bitched then too. Think about it, what has Obama done to deserve anything other than best wishes?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Glen Beck hasn't commanded them to stop yet.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Did your Obamagod tell you to say that?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Subliminally
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maven101posted 15 years ago
The Nobel Peace Prize has become something of a joke...Much like the Queen of England conferring knighthood on pop stars..
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
Yup, it's a world-wide socialist liberal conspiracy

Isn't being negative all the time tiring and hard on the soul?

This is the attitude many against Obama have:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtMV44yoXZ0
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  Bibowenposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Who says it's a conspiracy? It certainly isn't. The nationalization of the American economy is taking place out in the open for all the world to see. No conspiracy here: just the policies of the unproductive being propagated on the uninformed.
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Unlike that matter about Obama's Kenyan birth certificate, right?
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
It's an award that is not taken that seriously every day. I think the Nobel Prizes for the sciences are much more important and prestigious than the Peace prize. So Obama won, so what? If it's not important to you then you don't have to think about it. You don't have to come across like bitter old hags who don't want those they hate to get anything good...
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Can if I want to!
  
  I imagine he will win an Emmy next for best dramatic actor!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No, that should go to some of the people who harp on and on and on about the great socialist conspiracy and how Obama is killing America (that is not aimed at you specifically )
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Just in my general vicinity?
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TimTurnerposted 15 years ago
This hurts Obama more than anything and Time magazine already wrote a piece about it here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20091009/u … 9192939500

He has done nothing to deserve this and is just a talker than hasn't done anything yet. He might in the remaining 3 years but I doubt it.

It just shows how much of a celebrity Obama is. You can win stuff for doing nothing.

He will probably win the MVP in the NFL this year too
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You can't count to 7.3?
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  TimTurnerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Haha His own party can't agree on his policies so I don't think he will be re-elected.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  3 years is a long time in politics. If the Republicans keep voting against him just because they want him to fail, that might backfire.
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  TimTurnerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  But it's not just the Republicans. The Democrats are torn between his healthcare reform and Afghanistan. Democrats have control of our government but haven't done anything because they can't agree on anything.
  
  This is not a Republican issue at all. It hans't even gotten to a vote to become a Republican issue haha
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, well, there are a lot of wusses in the Democratic party who seem afraid of their own shadows.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It will backfire. The loud Republican minority are showing their dirty knickers. It's becoming very transparent.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ug! Transparent Republican knickers.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, sorry. Don't get too visual on that.
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ralwusposted 15 years ago
Well one thing about Obama and this prize, he can always say in the future "It's better to be a has-been that a never-was."
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Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years ago
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  Pr0metheusposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  LOL
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  omgsh!
  
  isn't that St. Francis of Assisi? in any case, he has got small hands.
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TimTurnerposted 15 years ago
I'm an independent and I don't think Obama has done anything yet. His celebrity is making the world like us more but you see world leaders starting to put more pressure on him because they think he is all talk.

For all you Obama supporters in this forum, can you tell me what he's done to deserve the Nobel Peace prize? I'm not trying to be a jerk. I really want to know your opinions.
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readytoescapeposted 15 years ago
The arguments of support on this thread are ridiculous. Research the nominating rules and winning requirements. Then try to defend the point that this was not a politically manipulated event.

It ain’t hard, if your on Hub pages you’ve got access to a search engine, use it, read, learn. Think for yourself, then comment. (January 21, 2009 Inaugeration day to Feb 1, 2009 Final Application acceptance day for this year's award, how many days on the job is that?)

Simply put the Obama machine miscalculated by engineering his nomination application only days after the inauguration. Were it next year, whether he had accomplished anything or not, it may have worked to uplift falling support and deflect objection.

This looks just as it is, False.
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Make Moneyposted 15 years ago
Yeah congratulation to Obama for winning the Nobel prize. He was given it for showing that diplomacy can work better than the past and that he is expected to put actions to his words. I like the fact that Obama himself realizes that his actions have to follow his diplomacy.
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Valerie Fposted 15 years ago
And I understand that a guy who built schools for girls in Afghanistan got turned down. What rabbit hole have I fallen down today?

The message with Obama's win is that all we need to do is talk a good talk and bring to the table the possibility that we might eventually make the world more peaceful to win the prize now. We don't need to bother with having already had done something to deserve it. Mother Teresa could have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize without bothering at all with the poorest of the poor. It's not at all about what we've done to deserve it. We don't have to earn it. We just have to be likely to earn it eventually.

The Nobel selection committee has just sacrificed their credibility.
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cosetteposted 15 years ago
the irony is that he is now a Nobel Laureate for Peace against the backdrop of his less than peaceful town hall meetings. interesting.

and i agree, their credibility just went out the window.

"In announcing the winner in Oslo on Friday, Committee Chairman Thorbjoern Jagland said: "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future."

so, basically, pretty words from a pretty man can merit a Nobel Peace Prize.
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LiamBeanposted 15 years ago
To the Europeans congratulating America for Obama's win, it is most gratifying to read this.

To the left-leaners arguing against the right-leaners. You are wasting your time. They do not nor will they ever listen.

To the right-leaners who have nothing good to say. Please start taking your medication again. Your depressive state is a downer...man.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I like you.
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  lrohnerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think most of us naysayers are putting down Obama. At least I'm not. I just don't get why he got the Nobel Peace Prize. I've never seen someone get it on a "promise" in my life. If he had actually done something and earned it, more power to him. But he hasn't and he didn't. It could be Bugs Bunny and I would say the same thing.
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  Jackson Riddleposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  On the homepage of the Nobel Peace Prize, it does give some info on his "efforts for a nuclear weapon free world" so it's just not on promises regardless of what some judges say.
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  yeah i think it's kind of uncalled-for others to insult their fellow hubbers just because they disagree with Obama's prize. "medication" and "depressive state"? also just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they are "republican" or "right-wingers". this topic is in a public forum open to anyone, so i guess that means anyone can comment, even people who disagree.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ah...well...it was a joke. And like most jokes it's based on fact.
  
  Now cosette, if you would, please point out something positive any of these right-leaners have said about Obama.
  
  Take your time...you'll need plenty of it.
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  i was talking mostly about myself, since i disagree with it...i don't think he earned it. i'm not going to go back and read anyone else's comments and then report back....(hee hee, how funny
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The prizes are awarded on potential benefit...for the most part anyway.
  
  Now if you want something to chew on consider this.
  
  Alfred Bernhard Nobel was a Swedish materials scientist. He invented dynamite. This stuff was basically nitroglycerin in diatomaceous earth.
  
  Which meant you could have an explosive in stick form and not risk blowing yourself to bits just jiggling it around. It was used for both peaceful purposes and in war.
  
  The Nobel prize is named for him. He founded it upon his death in a will. Many believe he did that because he was considered a "merchant of death" by so many during his life-time.
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  really?
  
  for potential?
  
  i see that i have been misinformed all these years. i thought it was for achievement.
  
  well ok i don't want to help throw off this thread's chi, so i won't say any more. i said how i felt and will let it go at that (grumble grumble)
  
  i have to go anyway.
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Don Wposted 15 years ago
Venkatraman Ramakrishnan wins Nobel prize for chemistry! What a joke. What's he done exactly?

He didn't create an AIDS vaccine or anything, why should he get a Nobel prize? Who cares about mapping the structure of Ribosomes? Sheesh. Seems ANYONE can get the Nobel prize these days.

Hang on though. Ribosomes exist in all living creatures. So the knowledge brought about through mapping them will be extremely useful in the development of future antibiotics. No antibiotics have yet resulted from this information, but the potential is there, now the first steps have been taken. So his prize is not only for what he has actually done, but also the potential fruits of what he has done.

I'm having a learning experience. Seems there might be things we consider insignificant, unremarkable, even undeserving of acknowledgement, because they bear no apparent and immediate fruits. But maybe others see a bigger picture. Maybe they see those things that in themselves look insignificant, as actually quite significant because they enable other things to happen in the future, that would not have.

Seems I've been unfair to Venkatraman and his mapping of Ribosomes. He hasn't created an AIDS vaccine or even a cure for the common cold, but his actions have enabled forward movement in an area that has the potential to help everyone on the planet. It's the potential of that first step (often the hardest step) that has been recognised by the Nobel committee.

Sorry, seem to have wondered off topic. None of this can possibly have any relevance to the discussion here. Please forgive the intrusion.
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hilarious! Agreed.
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  Jackson Riddleposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  There is a differnce between Noble Peace Prize and Nobel Prize for Chemistry or Physics
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  actually, he is sharing the prize with two other scientists, and they have been working on this since the 1980s. they were given the prize not only for the future potential of their research but also awarded for their years of dedication and hard work.
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  sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So, like, um... are they going to give us the fountain of youth?
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  cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  haha, heck if i know...
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  you're right. It doesn't . So why take the trouble to post ? What was your point ??
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LiamBeanposted 15 years ago
Obama won't get a nod from the right until he walks on water...and then they'll criticize his shoes.
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  BloodRedPenposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No LB - His wifes $540 french tennis shoes
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I want to see, maybe I could get a pair.
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're very good.
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BloodRedPenposted 15 years ago
the nobel prize nominations had to be in by 2 weeks after he took office - so how did he get nominated anyway?
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Black Magic
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  sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Doh!
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thats racist!
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Never heard Black magic was racist. It has to do with the devil
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Anything said against the Obamagod is racist! Haven't you heard?
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No I didn't! Do I have to be afraid ?
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The deity known as Obama will forgive, his zealots on the other hand may not.
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh please ! spare me !
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Daniel Carterposted 15 years ago
The honor is tremendously symbolic. Think about it. First black president, First Lady a descendant of American slaves, it's a *timely* honor if nothing else. Timely in that it is *time* to recognize such things because of having risen symbolically above so much negativity and doubt.

Obama is more famous than a rock star in most countries outside the US. In Brazil, people began changing their legal names to "Barak" and "Obama" to gain greater positive association and recognition. That's the point about the symbolism involved. He is an icon. Whether you agree with him or not, whether you agree with Nobel Committee or not, is almost irrelevant because of what this does for the history books, for sending a clear message and so much more.

He has been made a symbol, an icon. That happened as he travelled abroad during his presidential campaign, culminating at the Democratic National Convention.

I don't necessarily agree with all he says and does, but I do believe he has America's greater interests in mind. But regardless, he is firmly anchored as an icon and symbol. And perhaps, overly romanticized, overly sanctified, made a saint when he's a man, but he is a symbol.
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  Valerie Fposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The Nobel Peace Prize is supposed to be given to people, not symbols. If the committee gets into the business of rewarding symbols, I suggest the Amnesty International logo.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Glad to hear that you know what the prize is for. You going to Sweden to set these people straight?
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  Valerie Fposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If you're going to be snide, at least do it right. Oslo is in Norway.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hee hee!
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So, you going? I'm sure they could use your expertise in appropriate selections for the prize.
  
  As to snide. I think it's rather snide to assume to know what the prize is for and who it should go to. You aren't on the committee are you? And it's not an American award either is it?
  
  Typically right-winger. Presuming to tell other nations what to do and how to do it.
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Jackson Riddleposted 15 years ago
I think this whole topic has just created a perfect place for people to disagree with something for the hell of it. I know I do it all the time. However, I am for Obama winning the prize. NEARLY everyone is simply jumping on the anti-Obama prize bandwagon.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  At the beginning of this thread just the opposite was true. It wasn't until the doom and gloom crowd showed up that you started reading a lot of "he ain't done nothin."
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That anti-Obama bandwagon is a small, but relatively LOUD, minority.
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  Jackson Riddleposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I would have to disagree, on the larger scale it is not a minority.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Got some numbers do you?
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The larger scale needs to go global. On this scale he's well liked.
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  Jackson Riddleposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am not saying his not well liked but alot of people (I can understand why but don't agree) don't think he deserves the prize.
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Jewelsposted 15 years ago
The anti Obama crowd are very LOUD, loud and transparent.

Obama managed to do something globally that had not been experienced in a long long time. He gave hope to allot of people.

US citizens need to step outside their own country and see the worldview. We saw your ex President Bush in a terrible light, we also saw him as the head of your country, railroad you into bankruptcy and bring the rest of the world down with it. To most of the world Bush looked like a gibbering idiot, not a respected global leader. That was a common sentiment.

You can think Obama has done nothing, but that is not the case at all. Unfortunately the USA is in the midst of the collapse it had to have. Not at the hands of Obama, but at the hands of every American who did nothing to stop it. And you stick Obama's head on a guillotine and blame him for your idiocy. sorry, I can't buy that.

It takes someone of great magnetism to give hope to a multitude of people. And that person needs to have a voice that reaches many. His does and it reached a world audience, not just the US. If you think one man can change the world in 8 months - you have your heads in the sand. Get real. But it's been a long time since someone has really stuck their neck out to do something about it.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe you should nominate him for World President!
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If there was such a position, no problems.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This will fall on many deaf ears.
  
  Samuel Clemens recommended that very thing 130 years ago. Largely ignored by too many Americans. Then you have those that do travel and criticize "all the damned foreigners."
  
  I do not own a home nor have I used credit in over twenty years. Yet this affects me a great deal. I am very angry about this and would like to see a number of bankers take a long walk on a short pier...wearing cement sneakers.
  
  Too many of my fellow citizens are so insular that the rest of the world is just an imaginary place that they cannot fully comprehend or conceive. Too bad.
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A Texanposted 15 years ago
I would love to see the global unemployment rate when he became World President.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So you are blaming the current economic situation on Obama?
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Do you live in a cave? I guess most of you forget that Obama served in the senate and voted for almost all the bills that got us here! His administration said that unemployment would not rise above 8% if the stimulus passed, what is it now almost 10% He has tripled the deficit in 9 months in office, yeah Obama deserves some of the blame!
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Continuing to give tax breaks while simultaneously starting two very expensive wars had nothing to do with it huh?
  
  Interesting.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Did you read what I wrote? Did I ever once say that Bush did not contribute to this in a big way? But you see Bush is no longer President but most of his policies are continuing on like he was. You pray before your Obamagod if you want to, I will see the facts clearly and make the right choices with those facts!
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Sure I read what you wrote. I honestly don't know why I do, courtesy I guess, but you usually say the same things over and over again. It's not like I really NEED to read what you write.
  
  But I'll play along. See, you didn't mention Bush. At all. You keep putting all of the blame on Obama and never mention Bush.
  
  I don't believe in dieties, not even Obama.
  
  By the way continuing to use the word "Obamagod" just makes you look like an idiot. You know that don't you?
  
  You wouldn't know a "fact" if it bit you firmly on the arse.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Tsk, tsk, I have mentioned Bush many times and have put the blame where it goes. Personal attacks are usually a sign that your stumped for a legitimate response. Its ok go back to your regularly scheduled lovefest!
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I love Texans, they are so creative!
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Where have you criticized Bush? You never mention him. And honestly I don't blame you.
  
  I'm not stumped for a legitimate response. If you had some legitimate reason for your dislike (yes, even hatred) I'd have a legitimate response. But you don't have reasons...just bile.
  
  What lovefest? You know, making shit up doesn't make it true...no matter how hard you try. You must be another one of the disciples of Beck, O'Reilly, and Limbaugh.
  
  Make up crap and accuse others of the made up crap. Good show!
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Obama didn't make you use your credit cards. Take ownership.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Is that supposed to make sense? Credit cards and the unemployment rate are tied together how?
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  Jewelsposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You can't keep spending and spending and spending and spending and expect to get away with it. You have to look at the country as a whole and the consumer habits, material love affairs. Is unsustainable when you don't have a firm foundation. Bush kept spending billions, no trillions of your hard earned money which you didn't really have and now you are owned by China. Your banking system fell in a heap. Nobody can get credit anymore cause you are all up to your limits and a huge risk and so your credit wheel ran out of oil. And because businesses couldn't get overdrafts to pay wages, they closed.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thankfully I have no credit and therefore no limits.
  
  It's all in how you see things.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  And Obamas solution was to what? Thats right, spend, spend, spend! You can blame Bush for his part but you can't blame him for Obama's part, but somehow you people will find a way!
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What do you mean "you people?"
  
  I've got a challenge for you Tex. Find one place where I've said anything positive about Obama.
  
  You see, I'm much more concerned about what happens in congress.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What do you think I mean? I mean you people, not puppies,lambs,chickens I mean people. I think I'm gonna pass on the challenge and let you continue on with whatever it is you people do!
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Bush pretended to be a Republican, and gave a lot of lip service to being a fiscal conservative. Even during an economic expansion, he spent, spent, spent (unlike Clinton, who pared down the deficit). Not a peep out of most Republicans.
  
  Obama takes helm during one of the worst recessions in history. Economic practice suggests spending to raise liquidity and get people to spend again. He's also a Democrat, elected by a majority of Americans on a classically Democratic platform.
  
  So the Republicans who were outvoted - too bad; the majority chose a different path than you'd like. But you really discredited yourself when you turned a blind eye to the most reckless stewardship of our economy...during a recession and supposedly by a conservative!
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You may be surprised that I agree with you as far as Bush not being a conservative. Clinton had no choice but to move to the right and it certainly was not him who balanced the budget.
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  And yet I'm certain Bush didn't earn the same enmity from you over 8 years of incompetence than Obama has over the past 8 months.
  
  Interesting recasting of history. There's a term for this.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Recasting of History, no, both houses of Congress were taken by Republicans during the first midterm election, ironically because of Hillarycare. Clinton had to move to the right after, his own chief strategist admits this. Maybe you weren't born yet?
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That was certainly the case for welfare reform. It wasn't for balancing the budget.
  
  It should be clear that Republicans are for tax cuts, not for balancing the budget. That's been the case since Reagan. The 1994 takeover brought out the Club for Growth people. The GOP was not pressing for balancing the budget.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The GOP died when the religious invaded it. The true conservatives became the Libertarian party.
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, when they brought over the Dixiecrats, the scourge of the country. The average IQ dropped by a good 20 points with that move.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Y'all really are good for a laugh.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well we will agree to disagree, I'm gonna go watch tv.
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  pageantgirl31413posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Clinton only got it down because he downsized our military and closed down a lot of our best military bases.
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Not true. He also raised taxes on the rich.
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Thirteenposted 15 years ago
Its a disgrace that he won it !
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Why?
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  Jackson Riddleposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Took the bait.
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  Thirteenposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What peace did he achieve ?
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No, what peace WILL he achieve?
  
  Bets hell out of starting two wars that have yet to end and cost this country way more than it can afford.
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  lrohnerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Why? Because he hasn't done anything yet! Sheesh! Maybe a few years from now IF and WHEN he does what everything is waiting for him to do, but now? Gimme a break!
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Take a break then.
  
  So those three scientists who won for their ribosome research, they got that for what they did, or they got it for what their research will bring?
  
  You guys really crack me up. Bush, your golden boy, did all sorts of things. Ran the country right into the ground. But he did something.
  
  Generally speaking a president who does nothing, and that's not really the case with Obama, would be a hell of a lot better than a Bush.
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  Jackson Riddleposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This is doing http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Do-Nothing , he has done plenty of good things and many more will come.
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BloodRedPenposted 15 years ago
Well he did warn us - he was going to fundamentally transform America
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Jackson Riddleposted 15 years ago
Can we take some poll on this - i'm still not sure where all hubbers are thinking so i've added a poll on my hub about "doing nothing" because that's apparently what some are saying Obama's done - http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Do-Nothing
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BloodRedPenposted 15 years ago
He transformed america all right - he split it into two factions
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  America was split long, long before Obama even ran for office from what I can see.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thats absolutely right! And I went grocery shopping to answer your question.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It sure was.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  We have the metro sexual liberals looking for a reason to cry and we have real Americans who roll-up their sleeves and get going.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Metro what?
  
  What planet are you from?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  <snipped - no personal attacks in the Forums>
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  For your information, <snipped - no personal attacks in the Forums> I'm an honorably discharged veteran in my fifties. My "drugs" of choice are caffeine and nicotine. That's it.
  
  Now apologize!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well for your information I'm an honorably discharged veteran in my fifties! I like caffiene but I quit smoking 10yrs ago! I have as much right to my opinion as you but if it makes you feel better I'm sorry you're so sensitive.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You accused me of doing drugs. Apologize!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't mean it literally I meant it along the same lines as what planet are you from. But fair enough, I apologize for my offensive remark that I made saying you're judgement was impaired by the use of marijuana. Please accept my apology.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  As one vet to another thank you.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  My pleasure you were owned.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ha!
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The reason the Republicans enjoy so much support is they appeal to men with masculinity/inferiority issues; attacking other countries makes them feel like "real men."
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Jewelsposted 15 years ago
Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize - that's awesome.

Just making sure we stay on topic here.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  A Texan will do his damnedest to make sure that doesn't happen. Next, he'll be bringing up Monica Lewinski and Linda Tripp and (shudder) Al Gore.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If its needed!
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This is about Obama and the Nobel Peace Prize. It's not needed.
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  Jackson Riddleposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It can be made relevant if you need to make a comparasion between Obama and the others named to justify an arguement however so far it has not been needed.
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
So, the entire G20 are in the wrong.

I find it hilarious. In the US, the right are decrying the left spending all that money. In Canada, the left are decrying the right for spending all that money. It's all a matter of perspective.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I think the right wears beer-goggles.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well thats awhole lot better than supporting a liberal agenda.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What's the "liberal agenda?"
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LiamBeanposted 15 years ago
See how this went?

The "wing-nuts" showed up and now the thread is no longer about a Peace Prize or who won it.

About the only thing these guys are expert at is deflection, finger-pointing, and thread hijacking.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Do you have a sustainable argument? You don't really seem to do much but cry about how a thread goes astray, anything?
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  And you don't seem to do anything but go wildly off topic and piss and moan about liberals.
  
  Your turn.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No argument then, I thought as much, goodbye!
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
Metrosexuals are so last year...
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No unfortunately it fits those who cut off their own nuts to realize their feminine side. It's still relevant.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You make it sound like there is something wrong with having a feminine side.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  He's a manly man. Reminds me of the "Lumberjack song" for some reason.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am a Lumberjack big and strong,
  I knock down liberals all day long!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Not if you're a woman.
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
Medium looks good tonight
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh yeah and Ghost whisperer Thank god for DVR
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  pageantgirl31413posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I should get back into that show. Been too busy though. I just make time for NCIS and the new NCIS Los Angeles (I think it's called). Oh gosh, where's my mind tonight?
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pageantgirl31413posted 15 years ago
Back to the main topic of this thread. I see it this way...I keep peace in my house, a 5 month old girl, 16 month old boy, my husband, father-in-law and me. Now that's a hard thing to do. So where's my Nobel peace prize? I'm keeping my neighbors happy right?

It just seems way to premature and no I don't think he deserves it at all compared to so many others out there that are truly trying and have been trying for years and years.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  And Obama agrees with you I agree, I'd rather they had waited.
  But it does put pressure on him to live up to it.
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe that's why he got it.
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LiamBeanposted 15 years ago
FYI: Via an email.

"This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009."

To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace."

But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."

That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone."

This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better."

So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we've begun together. I'm grateful that you've stood with me thus far, and I'm honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

Thank you,

President Barack Obama "
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  pageantgirl31413posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I will say one good thing. He sure does have a good writer!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, I do my best.
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  Much better Ron, much better!
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habeeposted 15 years ago
Hey, stop throwing off on Georgia and the South!All of us down here are not ignorant rednecks, and not everyone here has a substandard I.Q.

As For the POTUS and the prize, I don't get it. I agree that BO hopes to achieve world peace, and that he is more prone to offering diplomacy rather than military might. That's good. However, when you read about some of the other applicants' truly self-sacrificing efforts to achieve peace...???

Someone mentioned Fox berating BO's winning the prize. I think some of the far-left beat them to it. Several are questioning WHY BO won it, including Huff Post, Washington Post, Daily Beast, and others.
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I hope you're not referring to me. I was talking about the Dixiecrats (they were an actual party) and I'm convinced most of them - or those today who think like them - are the dumb scourge of this country. That's obviously not all southerners, of course.
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Mighty Momposted 15 years ago
His response answers all the naysayers.
Of course Limbaugh went on a tirade about the award that Chris Matthews had to ask,"What IS he saying?" It was true. The rant made no sense.
What did make sense was seeing the favorability ratings of different countries toward USA under Bush vs. under Obama.
Suffice to say, Bush's were about 11% average and Obamas are over 80% overall.
What does this tell us? Either the rest of the world is wrong, or the people who are desperately trying to find something, anything to discredit him, are. Given the number of intelligent hubbers here from countries other than America who seem pleased with Obama's presidency, I'll go with the former....
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  Star Witnessposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What a funny little Halloween avatar, MM. Cute,
  
  And this forum thread...as usual lately...is embarrassing. Always educational, however. I understand now how Europeans and others can and do dislike us. I never quite got that before.
  
  My latest theory is that there are some whose whole existence seems to be hate, and that many of them are on this political forum and in America. And that's ALL they seem to project. Yes, I imagine the whole thing put Limbaugh in a dither. Bet it made him red in the face, too.
  
  There are always some bright lights, though. Here and everywhere else. Congrats, Barrack Obama. May you use this to further what you have started.
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  A Texanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Do you really care what the rest of the world thinks, really?
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  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Love that avatar
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jiberishposted 15 years ago
Congratulations Mr. President, I'm sure Mother Theresa would be happy for you.
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Onusonusposted 15 years ago
I intend to write a book on nuclear disarmorment, and expect to see my pulitzer prize in the mail. (Even though I havn't started it yet.)
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LiamBeanposted 15 years ago
So Uninvited Writer was correct. You right-wingers and Obama agree that he doesn't deserve the prize.

By the way. The year that Gandhi was to receive the award he was assassinated mere days before the announcement. The Nobel committee awarded no one the peace prize that year.

I'd say, in a way, they DID award it to Gandhi.
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LiamBeanposted 15 years ago
Interesting. Glenn Beck said: "He has to turn it down -- because it is such a joke -- that he'll turn it down and it's the only way for him make a win out of this, Only his arrogance will stop him from doing it."

Now, a hypothetical here. Let's say Obama does turn down the award. Wouldn't Beck and the other start frothing at the mouth about that?

It doesn't matter what Obama does. Beck, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and the rest of the right-leaners will pillory him no matter what he does.

I think it's high time the noisy rabble simply be ignored.
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habeeposted 15 years ago
I don't group O'Reilly in with Rush and Beck. I've heard Billo take up for Obama numerous times. I don't think we'll ever hear anything like that from Rush or Glen! But I get your point.
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
Yes, who thought O'Reilly would be the voice of reason
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  LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Billo's an idiot. The day he claimed Americans committed atrocities against German troops at Malmady was the last time I gave him any credence at all.
  
  Worse when someone pointed out his error he stuck to it anyway. It's a wonder vets across the country didn't burn him in effigy.
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
But compared to the other two he sometimes sounds reasonable I try to avoid them all myself.
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