With President Obama apologizing for everything American do you think we'll be considered a bunch of whoosies by the rest of the world? Are we going to fold at every challenge?
Actually, we'll be considered polite and able to admit when we're wrong. This in turn will garner respect and more tolerance of us. See, we're kind of a nuisance when we go abroad and our policies are draconian.
And as for people complaining about the bowing, that's just proper protocol when addressing royalty.
Actually, it wasn't proper protocol and the Japanese are very embarrassed for us. It was a bow of apology and not necessary.
I'll look it up, but I spent four years of my childhood in Hawaii which has a large Japanese ethnic population that influences the culture there. Obama is from Hawaii so he was already acquainted with proper Japanese protocol when he meet the Japanese emperor. Of course it could have been a slippage, I'll look it up.
I believe Obama has much on his plate to return this country to being perceived as gracious and respectful. Yes, corporations still continue to do many dastardly dealings around the world-- it's a corporate global war now. But his image is fast becoming that of thoughtfulness AND strength.
Besides, a "whoosie" is fearful; and who is more fearful than someone who won't be strong enough to OFFER respect with dignity?
Do you mean like 'mature' lol
I agree ,its already happening if International newspapers are anything to go by....
Never quite understood 'what everything American' really meant, either?
Perhaps sneak could expand on that a bit?
honk for peace, that will make hundreds of years of hatred go away...
I suppose what we should do is invade a country for no legitimate reason and then when we kill a few of em...began bantering that the mission is accomplished.
But not for Bush, excepting those who voted for him.
And not for Clinton either after the bombing of that aspirin factory...that had to have been a real headache...
I did not vote for Bush or Clinton. Can you say the same?
Sure, it's easy, "I did not vote for Bush or Clinton."
Would you be telling the truth if you said you didn't vote for Bush or Clinton?
I voted for Daddy Bush then Clinton then W.
I can believe you voted for both Bush's, but Clinton? I'm astounded that you got it right one time. LOL
You forgot retreat, backpeddle, yield, give up, give in, capitulate, dodge, squander, concede, throw in the towel, bend over forwards as far as equilibrium will allow you to stay aright...
why are you even asking? i thought you're a religious man? didn't jesus want us to be meek and humble?
Do not insult monkeys, monkeys do not surrender they are very much like the enemy we are fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. If you through things at monkeys, what they'll do is through it back, or even bring your towers down. You title I find very rude, if not racist based.
It's clear world leaders aren't scared of him like they were with Bush. Even Israel is challenging his administration at every corner. Russia has already challenged Obama and now China isn't budging on issues.
Then Obama bows to the Japanese President..unreal.
North Korea is waiting on their talks with the U.S. that Obama said they would get so they keep acting up to speed that process up.
Talk with Iran hasn't gone anywhere since Obama is allowing that to happen as well.
He is a wussssssss!
If you want to work towards world peace, starting with sorry is a good start. Sorry opens up discussion, discussion is non threatening and helps to share each others perception of life. Understanding leads to tolerance. tolerance is about forgiveness.... the cycle moves back to... sorry x
You don't have to say "sorry". You just have to say that the bad policies were designed by a different administration, and that this new administration totally disagrees with the old one. "Let bygones be bygones".
Easy to say on this side of the fence, unfortunately.
Whenever I traveled through Europe and Latin America in the Bush years, the general attitud of people was to hate the United States and to distrust Americans. However, as soon as I mentioned that I despised Bush (which I still do), people would switch to hating Bush, and accepting the USA as a country that contributed greatly to the world before the Bush era. Most people around the world do not hate us. They hate the abuse committed by the USA. If we let them know that we feel like them, and that we feel that the greatness of the USA is not in its might, but in the fairness, goodness, and determination of Americans, then they will like and respect us again.
We alwayas start out with the best intentions, we are very loyal to our country. We believe when we're asked to go help or fight we owe it to our freedoms to protect them. JFK sumed it up,"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Unfortunatly our liberal countrymen get it backwards and JFK was a democrat.
You are never going to get over your generalizations are you? No matter how many times I point them out and tell you that they are getting you no where.
What liberal can say they aren't for government intervention in our healthcare, social issues, buisness and illegal aliens?
Not all "liberals" believe in government intervention for any or all of these issues. You keep labeling. And how should the US deal with illegal aliens? Without government intervention there would be mo more border patrol, passports, customs agents etc.
Well the feeble efforts to regulate borders, can hardly be considered an intervention. The efforts made along the canadian border are nonexistant.
What you seem to have forgotten Colebabie is that they have basically been given a mandate by Napalitano to do nothing as that Sheriff in Arizona will attest too .And according to our currently Democratic dominated Government says Americans who want security at the borders are now called extremist ,per Napalitanos memorandum from the Dept . of Homeland Security . With this kind of Democratic dominated Government I am safer with Somali pirates !
I was asking Sneako what the country should do about illegal aliens that doesn't involve the government. I understand what you're saying. But he said that only liberals want government intervention when it comes to illegal aliens. I just wanted to know how else the issue could be addressed.
Asking the government to make systems in the US better is an attempt at making the country better. You again assume that liberals are selfish and none of them ever do anything to help the country. Want a list?
Then you agree that you want the country to do for you? They may very well contribute but they expect, and in some cases demand, things in return.(gay rights, healthcare etc.)
So you expect absolutely nothing of the government? You don't expect protection? Or rights? Or safety? Or equality?
Of course I want the government to do those things. But I understand that as a citizen it is my responsibility to make the country better. I don't ask what the country can do for me (that should be a given), I spend every day asking what can I do for this country? But you are too busy labeling everyone and putting them into little boxes and attacking people to see any of that.
Gay marraige- how would that make us better, unless immorality is better
Illegal aliens- people who break our laws should be given virtual citizenship, how does that make us better?
Govenment healthcare- waiting in lines, denying procedures, loss of incentive for innovations and research, treating illegals and deadbeats, making everyone buy insurance or else(unless of course you're illegal or a deadbeat), death boards, etc. How does this make us better?
Taxing and over taxing the successful, how does this make us better?
Creating moe laws that restrict our lives and take away freedoms, how does this make us better?
Killing the unborn, how does this make us better?
Sorry to contradict you. He is not assuming that liberals are selfish. Conservatives are opposed to pay for the health of the poor. That is true selfishness. He is mad because he thinks that he will pay for the health of some poor child, etc. What he does not realize is that he is already doing so, but through a crazy system that does not include preventive medicine. In many states (perhaps in all of them), indigent people have to be attended if they go through emergency service of most hospitals. This is how poor people get health care now. Of course, if you go to ER with a real emergency, they are already over-stretching themselves to take care of the poor.
Most conservatives don't use their little heads and tiny bit of IQ God gave them to realize that Insurance companies use 80% of their money to pay marketting and sales, administrators, and give dividends to investors. Additionally, Hospitals inflate all prices to insurance companies and doble or triple bill insurance companies. Insurance companiesdo not check those things out because they simply pass that cost on to us.
This is the conservative way!
I know but, why would you want to be a pansey? That takes all the fun out of life!
No, he just makes us look like a bunch of fools because he does what he wants to and then says stupid shite like,
"The bailout is working" while most of us are like WTF are you talking about. No one agrees, unless you are paid to of course.
The rest of the world looks on and thinks, The Americans are idiots the bailout is working.
We say, not that is not what we think.. well... but... that is not what your president said.
Then they think, wow a country that is doesn't trust or like their president.
Sound third world to me.
We sure as hell will be by our enemies, and that's the problem.
Is there any kind of instance of Obama apologizing for everything American? I mean a real event, real words coming out of the man's mouth?
I'm going to sit back and enjoy the long silence.
Well I just got up or it would have been a shorter silence. I don't remember his exact words but his references to Gitmo qualify as that. The torture issue was another where he made it clear that it would be investigated and stopped is another example of apologizing.
Now if you're statement,"for every American", is what you're referring to and no he hasn't apologized for the euro-americans.
Iraq 2 - Fail
Afghanistan - Fail
Iraq 1 - Fail
Vietnam - Ran away
Korea - Ran away
WWII - Arrived late
Oh dear. At least you are still free to have your mail read by the government Inc without a warrant and you can be held without charge by the authorities if they "suspect" you of something, and Mr Bush made mucho bucks from the banking collapse.
Good conservative values they are.
Don't you have a liberal cry to go to, or something?
We didnt run away from Korea. We are still there....
4. close enough
Nah, Carter stepped all over his crank in foreign policy too. It's just one of those things that periodically happen in US politics. Sometimes we just have a fit of stupidity. That will be rectified in a few years.
no, c'mon now.
It's a diplomatic move, to counteract the stances of the previous administration. He is merely trying to assure those nations who disagreed with Bush's non-diplomacy stance.
It's a political maneuver.
Sure it is, but it's stupid and transparent. I think the only person who doesn't see it as such is Obama. Certainly the rest of the world's leaders are seeing it as subservient and weak.
Time will certainly tell what foreign leaders think of him and his policies. Going by what's gong on with Obama's "open hand" to Iran, it would seem that he's not held in very high esteem.
but it's his responsibility to know. to be fully aware of how any gesture, any word, especially when having a face-to-face with foreign heads of state, will be interpreted and how they will view our president and country.
and Barack Obama is very circumspect, so i have to wonder why he would deliberately send a message like this.
did the emperor bow to him?
Sure it is and his State handlers probably briefed him on correct protocol. But the Glorious Leader apparently doesn't need any stinkin' handler and does things his own way.
Randy your ignorance is showing. Japanese are so embarrassed by Obama's gaffe, that they aren't even showing it on TV or in print. To the Japanese that speaks volumes about how badly he stepped on his crank.
I have no idea what the political fallout from this one will or won't be--or whether Obama's bow was correct, incorrect, or a deliberate apology.
But I do love that term, "surrender monkey". Don't think I ever saw a monkey surrender to anybody. They usually pick up their feces and throw it at you--doesn't sound much like surrender to me.
A bow is just a sign of respect in Japan, much like a hand shake here. This is just another nitpicking episode by the same sore losers as usual. Funny as hell!
well, you have recently illegally invaded iraq for oil & gas and afghanistan for oil & gas and to avert a regional power from growing too big by achieving a foot hold in central asia.
You are all over africa with military aid and training programmes to most african states, organising genocidal wars in the congo largely responsible for the rwandan genocide with the UK. Responsible for the ongoing Colombian tragedy under the guise of fighting drugs. paying out loads and arming israle who recently killed loads of palestinians, helped turkey kill loads of kurds, killed loads of east timorese, wasted loads of vietnamese in the 60s and 70s and other indo-chinese, wasted 100,000s of indonesians in the 60s, south america wasnt too pretty, angola and mozambique in the 70s was a bit nasty, i dont think appearing weak is the problem.
And you're massively confused. You throw all kinds of crap out there without understanding the context of what those situations were.
Wow, we did all that and we're still paying $2.75 per gallon at the gas station? This blows.
And did you think that they were ever going to lower the price of oil? We have been duped by big oil through congress to fleece us of as much money as we dumbly can give them. Unfortunately it has cost so much human life and that is criminal.
Maybe what's needed is a socialist policy, too many share holders, only $2.75 the British public are getting a very bad deal
I am sorry to say it but you are going to get roasted in here for stating a lot of cold things about US meanderings in other countries affairs. Sad but true.
Other than the fact that various Presidents have done this same manner of salutation (Nixon bowed to Hirihito for example in the 70's) there is more here than many of you realize. We are in danger of losing our relationship with Japan which we need to counter growing Chinese hegemony. Yukio Hatoyama has already stated that he is considering moving our airbase out of Okinawa and possibly out of the country, which of course would limit our strategic capabilities greatly to counter a Pacific threat. In additin he has made it clear that the new Japanese gov. wants to re-consider our relationship in a different light.
His bow is the last thing any of you should be worried about. Hatoyama is the problem, not some traditional Japanese salutation.
your confusion is that you see the cold war as the main reason for all those third world wars.
if the soviet union hadnt existed there would still be western imperialism.
Oh yeah, how many people did the Soviets kill? If not for us, you'd have had first hand experience in the tender mercies of the Communist system.
How many people did WE kill? Korea? Vietnam? And now everybody is at the mercies of our Capitalist system in which we dominate. Are you incapable of seeing anything from a perspective other than your own?
The communists have been the biggest mass murderers in history. There is no arguing this within a factual arena.
It is funny how easily the blame game gets started and how much selective memory is employed when the various countries and their citizens face critisism. Both the Soviet Union and the US have done horrific injustices furthering their ideologies and have tried very carefully to hide them or cover them up. Unfortunately when all of this is applied to current conversations the worst is thrown in our faces to invalidate our individual points of view. Nothing is proven and some wrong things are reinforced as facts.
So because we have done it to a lesser degree that makes us better?
Because in many of those reasons it was the reason. Vietnam, the support for Pinochet, the intrusion of American policy into Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia and Brazil etc were direct from cold war policy. Was it moral? No. But let us not have argument that many of these intervebntions were not the result of Cold War policy.
At the risk of removing the topic further from its intended scope, there is no question that the United Sattes di horrible things. We assassinated democratically elected leaders, invaded countries for economic reasons, and act with different expectations to other countries than we expect to live by (and anyone imagine the U.S. tolerating a foreign missle shiled on our Canadian border for example).
On the other hand we did some things we had to do to keep communism at bay, and we were the only ones that were able to keep the world outside of the Sino-Soviet sphere free.
Every issue must be studied and evaluated on its own, not by generalized judgements ecomapassing a half century of actions...
Maybe it's time to ask the Mafia for help, we could process the Opium and ship it to the streets of America. That would raise lots of cash and the people would not be using religion as their Opium
I feel if we are going to be a bunch of pansies and fruit loops, we should just come home and stay home. At least we won't humiliate ourselves in front of the whole world. Lets face it they do nothing but complain about us so lets let'um complain about someone else. We need our money here and if you listen to the likes of paraglider we don't help anybody anyway.
For supporting this one over that one, trying to set an example for the free world to follow, and believing some things are worth fighting for.
They are worthy attributes ,but not unique to Americans IMO
No but we certainly draw the lion share of the critisim.
Well, I hope going to Iraq and torture doesn't catch on.
Are we becoming a country of surrender monkeys?Are we becoming a country of surrender monkeys?
excuse me, please, were you calling Obama a surrender monkey?
surrender monkeys - is that a 60's pop rock band?
Could you just lighten up a little and give the world a chance? some major healing is going on and you sound like you want us to keep blowing things up. Why? To salve our pride? Bad monkey!
Barbarians only understand strength. If you feel kisses and hugs will work, start kissing!
are you confusing strength with distruction? It is a much stronger thing to build up than to destroy. We must never feel it is apologetic, or surrender to cease distruction and instead build the world - not to mention what our war policies have done in the way of massive destruction of the earth's environment. I really don't think we even grasp to what extent we are killing the planet by pursuing weaponry and warfare. So what has kissing to do with anything I have said? Exactly who and where are the barbarians?
labeling someone a liberal does not make for intelligent dialogue! but I should have realized that someone who comes up with a label like "surrender monkey" is not really interested in intelligent dialogue but just wants to make a (rather ignorant) statement. If you refuse to even define the stupid term yourself, that says so much about you!
If we accept the fact that Obama is hurting our nation being an apologetic public figure, what about public figures that CRY constantly on NATIONAL TELEVISION???? This of course being Glenn Beck. What makes us look weaker??
Are you putting Glenn Beck, a mere TV and radio jock, on the same level with Obama, the President of the US?
The President of the United States of America does not bow to anyone anywhere, period. As far as Glen Beck is concerned I am ashamed of the leaders in charge of our country. It's truely embarassing. God help us.
Gee sneako, I think you're confusing the president with some sort of royalty or god or something. The president is still a common man as in "all men are created equal" but I sense you don't agree with those words anyway. A bow is instinctive if you have ever been associated with anyone from Japan or involved in certain martial arts activities. Big deal!
once upon a time when the world was still in the throes of elections and competitions about who would rule the world some clever people came up with the idea that they could quietly and secretly rule the world and make everyone else into puppets to do their bidding - their secret tools were the epithets "liberal" and "conservative" - both words were thrown about in order to disguise, confuse and completely subdue the population. It seemed to work. On most people.
puppets? well ok, where do I sign up? I'm pushing the "submit" button all the time, might as well just submit on everything!
Mostly, at this time I better identify my beliefs with conservatives.
and how exactly do you define "conservative"? I know you can see where I'm goin with this.
It's a series of character traits, respectful, law abiding, free market, less government, less taxation and you take care of your own family and help others if you can. You dress and behave in public always considerate of others. In my case I follow the word Jesus and he is my leader.
Surrender monkey-( as per Bart Simpson) is a european type country or mentality that will give-up or quit if someone yells Boo! A whimp. A pansey. A coward. A Whoosie.
As a Shotokan karate instructor, I can assure every body that bowing is not a symbol of submission, but of strength. You show others that in spite of your power, you are not dangerous to them. Bowing is respect. We bow to each other as a greeting, or before a fight. When we bow we do not tell the other person that we are afraid. We tell them that we will respect them even after we beat them up.
As for liberals being whimps, I am a liberal. I opposed the war in Iraq, and when I faced people who were in favor and insulted me, calling me liberal in a derrogatory way, I beat them up, without bowing before doing so. Why didn't I bow? because I don't respect right wingers. They have used my tax money and the american self respect to enrich Hallyburton. I consider righrt wingers idiots. I didn't use to make my thoughts in this regartds public, but I got fed up. We gave them a great country that was on top of the world when Clinton was there. They enriched themselves, ruining us, and taking away most of our freedoms. Now, they return a country in shambles that need to be restored. And they still want to critizice. This is my message to conservatives: You have screwed up this country too much. Now, let us liberals restor it, so you can (in your immense stupidity) screw it up again in 8 years from now.
Thank You Blue Ranger. What the hell is wrong with you?
Didn't I just post what my problem is? It is conservatives who have been pushing America down in the last few years. As for "Blue Ranger", that is how you idiots solve things, giving names and making fun. I bet you are a Rush Limbow fan
You're a gay man and you want to get married, whats wrong with a civil union? Why do gays always threaten everybody? Look I love you and I know this is a tough time. Just keep working out it helps relieve stress and you'll find a way to survive this social distress.
OK, Rush, let me tell you, I am afraid of men that love me. They get too touchy feely for my taste. You really can't get the problem. Whether I am gay or not is absolutely irrelevant. In fact, whether I think a woman should have an abortion is irrelevant too. Furthermore, whether I like to torture people is irrelevant. Evenmore, whether I am Muslim or not is irrelevant. The fact is that freedom means ALL PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL OTHERS WHAT THEIR RELIGION SHOULD BE. ABORTION IS A RELIGIOUS BELIEF. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO TORTURE OTHERS, NOT EVEN THE MILITARY OR THE CIA.
How about you go and learn what freedom means and then we talk.
I'm harmless killer don't worry about me. Religion,ok. Who speaks for the baby what our their rights? I'll bet if you could ask them they'd say Mommy if you don't want me, it's ok. Please don't kill me give me to someone who'll love and give me a chance to be a real person. Torture, well when you fight with the devil there's no rules. Rules only get the good guy killed because the bad guy won't follow them anyway. Well in my book freedom doesn't mean anarchy.
First of all, The brain is not formed until the 6th month. Therefore, a three month old fetus is a brainless being. Your religion may say that the soul is in the fetus. But that is your religion. It is not everyone's religion. Freedom of religion means that your religion shall not be placed above other religions in the making of the law. In other words, you do not believe in freedom of religion.
Yes, your support for torture does make you a killer. Just read along:
According to the Independent, "Human Rights First’s report, Command’s Responsibility, based on its study of autopsy reports and interviews with military personnel, witnesses and physicians, found that between August 2002 and February 2006 nearly 100 detainees had died 'while in the hands of U.S. officials in the global 'war on terror.' Although the military had deemed 34 of those deaths suspected or confirmed homicides, Human Rights First counted a total of 45 cases where the facts suggested 'death as a result of physical abuse or harsh conditions of detention.' What’s more, in almost half the cases surveyed, 'the cause of death remains officially undetermined or unannounced.' Overall, the group found, by the beginning of 2006, 'eight people in U.S. custody were tortured to death.'”
There are thousands of pieces of evidence that the American government, through the CIA, the FBI, and other security organizations kidnapped and tortured thousands of Muslims, maintaining most of them in custody for over one year. More than 90% of them were found not to be terrorists, unless you consider praying to Alah an act of terror. I am sure you do.
Schools in mostly right wing conservative Christian states keep harassing wiccans and other pagans. Of course, that is because they do not believe in freedom of religion.
You guys want to claim that freedom of religion and of personal practices is anarchy. In some states, conservatives managed to pass anti fellacio and sodomy laws. But it is always the conservative jerks that oppoase the freedom of others the ones caught soliciting teenager porno, sex in bathrooms, male prostitution, and other "immoral" acts that they oppose.
Conservatives are the most hypocritical and amoral people. Theuir only interest is to be above others. Their religion is always the "true" religion.
Well I have news for you. God will meet you some day, and all your conservative slogans will not make Him approve of your contribution to torture and other conservative IMMORAL conservatively backed actions.
Wow!.................That was fun. Ok, Wickans?..........I believe I can safely assume that you're referring to Christan conservatives. That said, what sould I say? I support the islamic jihadists? If you think I should give them a hug, that'll have to wait until they clean-up their mess! They know who the idiots are turn them in then we'll talk. Wickens? Why not kill babies thats smarter than crossing your legs or keeping it in your pants.
Have you ever been tortured? Well I have! I've been married for 34 years! I know what torture is, sitting out side a changing room waiting to comment on an article of clothing, she probably won't buy anyway! While the football games are on TV! Don't you tell me about torture! How about the noise torture? Do you have any ideas how many times I heard "Stop-it!" Every vacation in almost every state! Almost every state! All fifty of them!
They used to call me Don King! And now I'm bald. So don't you tell me about torture.
Fellatio? Theirs laws against fellatio? And to think I request that for my birthday every year. Thats why I never get it! I thought she was just torturing me.
Ok I understand you don't like conservatives, how do you like liberals? Do you think killing babies will make God happy? I sure don't remember anything in the Bible about killing brainless babies is ok. If you're gay and you sodomize your fishing buddie I think the adultery commandment handles that since there's no same sex marraige. Where you're from do they make you have sex on TV so you don't break the law?
I don't care what any commie liberal says, that was not me in that porno video! I was delivering pizza and got lost! I'm not immoral!
Try them with horseradish sauce, that's some good eatin'.
That's because you know what monkeys do to sheep.
Thanks, it's her birthday tomarrow and she still hasn't said where she wamts to eat.I don't no what to tell her family.
How you manage to miss my point every time is beyond me. I'm going to a beach clean up, and later on I'm tutoring and then going to wait tables. Oh yeah, I do absolutely nothing to help people. Have a nice day.
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