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Donald, in his brilliant statement by both his lawyer and his own mouth, has opened up the door for Muller--Special Counselor--to depose him under oath. By claiming Comey lied under oath, Trump will be invited to answer questions about the meeting between the two. Smart? You make the call!
Absolute gibberish. Trump and his cult following have no understanding of truth and logical thinking. I watched a focus group after the Comey testimony. They all still supported Trump and thought Comey was the one who lied. And this thing about calling him a "leaker" instead of listening to what he is saying us just unbelievable. I feel so sorry for that girl that leaked PROOF of Russian involvement in the 2016 election. Trump and The Trump cultists don't care about the truth. They can't handle the truth. It makes me physically ill.
Yes, I saw of those groups, Lela. I'm glad I can't deny the truth I see with my own eyes, unlike those brainwashed DT fans. "Idiocracy" the movie made me uneasy when I realized it wasn't simply a futuristic comedy. It's really happening!
I have to say this, It clearly appears not many in this conversation have any reality of what is being accomplished By T. Most are steeped in believing innuendo, not actually willing to accept anything that does not fit their hysteria agenda?
Theres that word hysterical again...i might have to look up the history of using that as a smear...it began being used against women who didnt like being oppressed, right? "Oh, shes just hysterical". Like hell. Stand up and fight this coup!
I have asked over and over, please produce one lie? And actually T does what he says he will do. Do any of those that buy into T bashing ever get tired of wearing egg on their face? Wake up, it's time. You look so bitter, and unintelligent.
Mexico will pay for the wall. Hillary sold uranium to russia. I will take care of vets. I will donate my hotel earnings to fed coffers.I wont play golf, ill be too busy.Ill never leave the white house.Ill release my tax returns if i win. What russia?
Trying to wrap my head around this thread. Trump is clearly not a politician and is incompetent as such because he is not a good liar. Lying and politics. If you are an outsider you cannot do it well. but Pelosi can? Good food for thought.
Not a good liar? He excells at it. He lies as a way of life. Where are the tax returns? Blatant lie. Wheres melanias news conference about not coming here illegally? Its ALL lies. Including this election.
I dont think he minds lying under oath. I dont think he minds doing anything to get his way. If he goes under oath, he'll lie. And republicans control congress. They wont go after him. They'll ask questions to support his story, like "you didnt say that, did you?", or, "you really meant to say this, didnt you?" Listen to them! They dont even see any trump wrong doing, its always someone else. As long as they can help their rich owners, they dont care if godzilla is prez. Imo
You may be correct Chris, but if it gets any worse for the WH bunch the Cons will began deserting the already sinking Trump yacht like vermin they are. I hope they stay onboard long enough to lose their congressional seats come 2018.
Well, i hope the ones who voted for him feel the pain. Because the rest of us will. My grandson is special needs. His teacher told me if title one is cut, he will fall through the cracks. All so peopke like trump and ryan dont have to pay taxes.Punks
lovemychris, fact- POTUS proposed $1 billion increase in Title I. Fact- All in Government including POTUS pay income taxes. You should not listen to all you hear, read and research on your own.Your Grandson will benefit if Trump's budget is passed.
Im listening to people who work in education. Miss devos is a devote of private, christian schools.this is the "choice"who will get this money.this $ is a means to make title 1 "potable": moved from public schools to private. My grandson is in public
YD I assume you meant "devout" and "portable". This should be another Q. I sit on a council that approves expenditures of Gov. $ in public. Slight increase in fed. funding and decrease in State $. And we are dem. state. Susan Davis is awesome.
Im talking about betsy devos, new sec of ed. She is trying to dismantle public ed in favor of private, preferably christian schools. Its all part and parcel of bannon/mercerites. Deconstruct gvt so everything flows up. No care for anyone but me me me
Trump is between a rock and a hard place. If he doesn't have tapes, then he is lying and he threatened a civilian to keep his mouth shut. If he does have tapes, then they should confirm Comey's statements. If they don't then Comey is lying. I doubt that Comey is lying because Trump lies with almost every statement he makes.
Also Trump may be under oath and lie, because in his mind, he is not lying. He has pulled this routine many times. That is part of his sociopathic persona.
They should give Comey and Trump lie detector tests to see who is telling the truth. Who are you going to trust, a person with integrity or one who's character is defective and gets in the way of him being a reasonable human being and president?
peoplepower73 Please list an actual lie that Trump committed. It appears you may have derived your opinion from media innuendoes? It's unfortunate you have not actually been following some of the accomplishments Trump has made. Open your mind to fact
Sharon, Do you even have a TV which picks up anything but Fox News? Apparently not as Trump told hundreds of lies in his first hundred days in office. Do you remember him claiming his inauguration was attended by more people in history? Liar!
Randy Godwin , actually I read, due to not appreciating hacks push their narrative.... You actually consider the statement Trump made about a photo that was taken hours before his inauguration a serious lie? Do you read WAPOs fake news too?
Sharon, yes Trump lied about the inauguration attendees. This is a well proven fact and this one is only one of the hundreds of lies Trump has told so far. You need to read something other than your usual false news if you want to be taken seriously!
Do you even wonder what kind of person has to say "my inaugeration was the best ever....i won the popular vote...im so wonderful youve never met anyone like me". I mean, what the actual eff. Hes so self-centered, and so mean. Im embarrassed for usa.
Randy no doubt I have been brainwashed but not about this stuff. Mine is that crazy religion deal. I did some court work on criminal stuff way back, and I never met an innocent man. Guilty of something. Dig hard enough, all have skeletons.
Sorry Eric, I'll wager neither of us have as many skeletons in our closets than the Cheeto-In-Chief. He will go down as the most disgraceful president in American history. And you voted for the crook and feel good about it! Good for you! LOL!
Randy, would you expect him to not fight back to all of the negative media reports? The media has treated him horribly, and he just is not the kind of person to let it go. I am loving this. Change is sweet... Very tired of the status quo.
How do expect the media to treat him, Sharon? No other POTUS has lied so much or has so little knowledge of the way the office is run, nor will he listen to his advisors. The man is an arrogant buffoon.
Randy I just love your concept of do it the same way and be like every other politician. You are bad if you do not do like all the con men from Truman to now. But then we have Reagan. Hated by folk like you. But down comes the wall.
And in came the cocaine, if you remember the Iran Contra scandal. And Flynn didn't register as an agent for Turkey until after he was fired. In the meantime he managed to swing a super deal for Turkey after becoming NSA. Yeah, he's clean! LOL!
Sharlee01: Winning an election and lying about tapes is a false equivalence. Nixon won an election, but he lied about his tapes. I hope he does have tapes, because if he does, they will incriminate Trump and prove Comey was telling the truth.
What country do you live in, Game Over, Your Team Lost. Mueller is going to be in trouble himself. There is no proof, and Mueller was put in place because of the leak by Comey. I can't believe your questions? And people say my questions are loaded. You are now officially off my list.
We don't have enough enemies in the world, and in government,, but the home grown ones are the hardest to take. Like Reality Winner.
Again, you only pay attention to the label of "leaker". She Leaked PROOF of Russian involvement in our country's election. She blows the whistle on Republicans and you can't handle that. The whole country is losing!
And yet....trump leaks classified intel to lavrov and kislyak, and its ok cause hes the president? Not in my book. Republicans cheered wikileaks, consider snowden a hero..why do you now bash winner??? Partisan patriotism.
YD you are really lacking in reading of law. Read it and weep. The POTUS can not by the very nature of the office leak or be held to classified status. Do you totally not get CAC (commander and chief) Trump is the elected POTUS. Weep.
Trump is so ignorant in the ways of political law and rules of conduct because he's never had to adhere to ethics and morality in his business life. He isn't a reader and refuses to learn the boundaries of his power. He seems to believe he's a tyrant
That is your opinion Randy and I respect that. We have to start trying to be more clear of what we say is fact and what we say we believe. Just now the NYT and the LAT disagree on facts of admissions. Good opines but not facts.
Fact: trump says he has nothing to do w russia...no business ties, never met putin. Lies. Fact: trump said he would release his tax returns if he won. Lie.Just cause its not in front of congress,its ok to lie? Sessions lied to congress:A lying ag!
You're a lot more insightful than many who live in this country, Hollie. It makes me ill for all of these otherwise intelligent people to be making excuses for the Buffoon In chief, and in the process, promulgating his obvious lies. More's the pity!
Isn't it cool that the American public voted in a majority to republicans and 2018 looks even more of the same. I think you should hate the man. Because he is ruining your way of thought. Or is that the American public that is? Food for thought.
Why do you always bring up hate? No one mentioned hate. Why dont you go on about trump hating democrats? His son says were not human. Why dont you chastise that? Do any of you have any integrity whatsoever? If so, i havent seen it. Party over country
Wisconsin recount:a machine they were working on flipped every clinton vote to trump. #unhackthevote. Read mike farb on twitter. We have been robbed. many times over. America is not a far right theocracy! Its been illegitimately taken. God, my azz.
There is one paradigm shift we have here today that is new to me. Political losers are now victims. It is a strange social notion. A ten year old playing soccer loses a match and today he can claim that he is a victim. Interesting.
If the scorekeeper adds points to a losing team, making them win, the loser is the victim. What has happened to 10 year olds? Nobody wants to have an honest match. Win at any cost, even cheating. This is cowardly and shows no quality of character.Imo
Sorry to say - regardless of affiliation you do seem to be playing the victim of conspiracy card. I hope you do understand that the whole notion of collusion is exactly a conspiracy theory right or wrong. Conspiracy would be the crime.
Eric, do you want the investigation into the Russians meddling in our elections to be carried out to its conclusion? Or do you want it stopped because you believe it's simply a with hunt? Do you want fair elections or just for your candidate to win?
I think he means it. I think Trump listens to his lawyer and then does whatever the hell he wants. Hell, smart?? Legally no but he seems to get down to business. He reminds me of "damn the torpedoes full speed ahead". Muller is a smart guy and will try to trip him up. Remember Clinton got impeached over just such kind of gambit. We really are not in a sky is falling scenario. If you take the time to read 18 USC 4 you will find that there is nothing there as Comey testified to. It is an easy paragraph read: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/4 and the point being that either Comey thought there was error and failed to report it and is way guilty or he did not think there was error. So simple. Either Comey is a felon or Trump is in the right. Muller just might need to indict Comey for that and for leaking. He has the power to convine a grand jury for that. If Trumps testifies that Comey was exactly correct he still did not violate any law. Did we see the case against democratic workers committing voter fraud? Maybe the election was rigged - by democrats?
And Clinton was way more savvy then DT will ever be about the Govt workings, Eric. Muller will tear DT a new asshole before he's through with him. One of the former Republicans voting for Clinton's impeachment said this is way more serious for DT!
Marvelous Randy. As Sherlock would say "the game is afoot". Yes I expect Muller to tear into him like a rabid dog leaving no stone unturned. I look forward to it as I think Trump does. But if Muller finds nothing - what will you think then? Crooked M
Don't forget Eric, Muller will have free reign to ask DT anything, including any properties or dealings with the Russians. He'll have DT's tax returns by then and will also ask about Flynn's dealings and if DT was privy to Kurshners back channel try.
Randy my Governor was just in China making back channel moves because a state cannot enter into legally binding deals with a foreign sovereign. Revelations will be there but dealing with Russians is simply not illegal. No, there is a scope of investi
Cite one code section that says that is treason. Voter fraud yes. Criminal yes. But not treason. Hysteria muddles the mind. But Comey found no evidence of collusion. Yet you claim it? What do you know that Comey does not?
Interesting choice of word. Didnt you all call hillary hysyerical too? Age old misogyny. Alive and well. Grab em, then insult them. Then say, "who, me????". Lol. Patriarchy is meeellltttiiinnngggggg. Ding dong
Fox News talking points again, huh Eric? Yesterday's hearing was not about collusion. It was to get Comey's statement under oath on record so DT would open his mouth and claim Comey was lying. Comey played DT like a fine Stradivarius. LOL!
Exactly so. This bunch is waging a war on women and on mother earth. And my biggest concern is for women who voted for him. So culturally brainwashed as to actually wear a shirt that says "trump can grab my *arrow pointing down*. Excuse me? WHAT?
Woah ! woah!, maybe this can be continued on the forum because there is a lot to be said here on both sides. IDK much but I do know the Dems ain't gonna push nothing until 2018 elections. I'm at the point that DJT is the squirrel
Tell them randy! Maybe theyll listen to you. "Oh no, people only get banned cause they deserve it"...WRONG. and wrong is wrong. 1st amend matters...as much as their precious second. And they take it away, for personal vendettas. BOOOO
Randy I did not know it was mostly on Moderator. So are people not getting banned anymore for arguing their point? I think my lifetime achievement award of banning was in '14. More than 100 best answers but bannable in forums?
To all you Trump supporters out there: The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. You are all drinking the same Kool Aid as Trump. He has no tapes, but in his mind, he think he does. He lies, but in his mind, he think
I mulled this over and it seemed to stay that 1) your cannot be in support of something Trump is in support of and be rational. 2) Supporting the President of the United States is now somehow treason. Hate and fear. Some kind of election PTSD thing.
Whats the whining about? When i didnt like bush, i wad told i hated america and hated the troops. Why is it you guys always act like such victims of the exact things you are guilty of!!! Cry me a gd river.
Wow so bitter and hateful... I would think liberals would have had enough egg thrown in their faces by now? Comey exonerated Trump, and still some go on reading in ridiculous hateful theories. Comey stated at no time did Trump ask him to stop the "Russian investigation". He did quote his personal memo stating " I hope you can let this thing on Flynn go". President Trump stated he never said that. In my eyes that's a stalemate. I guess we will have to wait to see the outcome of the Mullier investigation. I will predict that Trump will be completely exonerated. My common sense tells me not to predict anything in regards to Flynn or Manifold.
I find it so ridiculous to follow what the media is reporting. The one thing that Comey did confirmed during his testimony was that the leak reports were fake, not true.... So, you may want to actually do some research on what President Trump has been accomplishing. Did you ever consider you may be being fed propaganda from a very bias media, and just might be wrong about Trump,and his agenda? Might be time to have an open mind, he may just turn out to be one of the best presidents we have ever had.
I'll put the question right back at you, Sharon. Doy ou ever consider you might be fed propaganda from your news sources? By the way, what news sources do you depend on, hopefully not Faux News as they are simply opinion people with few real reporter
Austin you cut so to the quick with facts it is hard to keep up. You are extremely estute in making complicated matters simple and clear. Impressive for sure. What was I thinking suggesting how we treat another "enemy" could be a standard?
Randy, Fact - We have no idea if Flynn will be charged with any crime? Same with Manifold or Kushner? You seem to get ahead of yourself? Coney denounced the Media coverage as much not holding truth. Why not wait to see what the investigation yield
You might not have an idea that Flynn will be charged, but then, you don't have an idea how things work in the government. Flynn has been caught representing a foreign power at the same time as holding the appointment as NSA. A crime no doubt!
Randy, go ahead and use CNN as your source. What evidence do you have that Flynn was an agent? Testimony will do but not talking heads opinions on either side. He is out for failing to disclose not for crimes other than misstating facts.
WTF r u talking about? There is no proof yet - that's why it's an investigation.(duh!) There is no stalemate. Your prediction is feckless. Manifold? WTF is that? AND if leak were false then they aren't leaks. Study up on basic logic lady.
PTOSIS that is wrong as a matter of course. It is not like hunches and gut feeling on TV. And investigator must bring some proof to their boss that something is wrong in the Swamp. Then they either get funding or manpower or not based on evidence.
Smart; and honestly I don't think anyone is telling the full truth here, too many people trying to cover themselves. We need to get to the bottom of it, we need to hear everyone's testimony. Even the president.
I think we will find out that trump cannot tell the truth under oath on not under oath and maybe he will throw his son-in-law under the bus to distract from his being called to testify. I am curious who trump's daughter will stand by, her husband or her father. great question.
Randy, Who's "Oath," a WH staffer?& why will Trump be under her?Isn't he the top guy? & then someone is gonna throw them both under a bus?Whoa!(This is the only way Im including myself anymore)Don't try 2 stop me!! I have my rights!!
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