Why are Republicans Trying to Destroy America?

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  1. crankalicious profile image93
    crankaliciousposted 13 months ago

    Every poll says the same thing:

    Republicans believe COVID is a hoax in significant numbers (some even to the point of denying COVID as they die, unable to breathe)
    Republicans, way more than Democrats, refused to wear masks (thereby leading to the spread of COVID)
    Republicans, way more than Democrats, remain unvaccinated (thereby leading to an increase in variants and the spread of COVID)

    So why don't Republicans want America to recover from COVID?

    1. Readmikenow profile image96
      Readmikenowposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Where do you get this stuff?

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
        Kathryn L Hillposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Freedom of cranky speech Day lol

        1. crankalicious profile image93
          crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          This is a holiday in cloud cuckoo land.

      2. crankalicious profile image93
        crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this
        1. Readmikenow profile image96
          Readmikenowposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          Crank,

          Thanks for providing your sources.

          The VOAnews link provides some interesting data.  It's obvious white, Republicans are less likely to get the vaccine.  Does this increase the spread of the disease?  It's important you realize even after having the vaccine, thousands of vaccinated people are dying from it. 

          Could part of it be that the survival rate for Covid is 99 percent? 

          https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/verif … 2b5265d8a8

          The USA today story is just an opinion piece.  South Dakota never had a lockdown and they did far better percentage wise with Covid cases and deaths when compared to California and New York who imposed ineffective suppressive methods to control Covid.

          1. crankalicious profile image93
            crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            99% of all COVID deaths currently are from unvaccinated people.

            https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus- … 54f5d5e187

    2. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      "So why don't Republicans want America to recover from COVID?"

      Are we really so far apart in this country as to ask a nonsensical question as that?  Are we really so unwilling to listen to the "other side" (whatever it might be)?  Have we truly lost all sense of empathy and really don't care what people have to say, to the point of refusing to hear their words at all?

      Or were you just being sarcastic about a view/belief that you don't share?

      1. crankalicious profile image93
        crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Are you asking if I'm willing to listen to somebody who refuses to get vaccinated?

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          Of course you should.  How else can you understand what they are trying to communicate?  How else can you ever have even the smallest hope of convincing them otherwise if you don't understand what their perception is?

          Plus, of course, they might even convince you that you should not get poked!  You never know what might be learned if one just listens.

          1. crankalicious profile image93
            crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            Vaccines are one of the 20th century's greatest accomplishments. In my opinion, people who refuse to get vaccinated are idiots. And while they are within their rights, they should not have the right to put the rest of us in danger. If they don't want to get their children vaccinated, that's fine. They can be home schooled. They can have planes just for unvaccinated people.

            That said, the government does have a history of using certain groups as guinea pigs, so I can understand hesitancy by those groups.

            For the most part, the hesitancy is a lack of education, lack of trust in the government, and an anti-science prejudice.

            There's no convincing these people. As some of my links noted, even as they're dying, they're claiming COVID is a hoax.

            Perhaps we all just need to follow the Republican lead vis a vis masks - just throw caution to the wind and let the unvaccinated die. It's a form of Darwinism, after all.

            1. Readmikenow profile image96
              Readmikenowposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              If you are vaccinated...why would you worry about someone who is not vaccinated?  If you have such faith in your vaccine, you shouldn't fear anyone who isn't vaccinated.  Your vaccine makes you immune...unless it doesn't.

              1. MizBejabbers profile image87
                MizBejabbersposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                Mike, I've never heard one CDC official say that the vaccine makes a person immune to the virus. People in medical positions say that it prevents extreme cases and keeps people from going to the hospital, and inhibits the spread of the virus. I hear them say this during TV interviews on CNN and CBS, the channels I watch the most for news. The strange thing is when I try to source this online, I can't find a single source. The whole subject is too ambiguous, abstruse, and even obtuse. There seems to be a disparity in the freedom of the press and the censorship of online companies.

                Could this lead to some people's reluctance to get vaccinated?

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  Guinea pigs come to mind.

                2. Readmikenow profile image96
                  Readmikenowposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  The vaccine doesn't keep people from dying from Covid.  There are thousands of people who are vaccinated and still get Covid.  There are thousands of vaccinated people who have died from Covid. 

                  According to the CDC, you have a chance of experiencing an adverse reaction.

                  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc … vents.html

                  So, you take your chances.  Covid has a 99 percent survival rate.  So, what good is the vaccine?

                  Here's a story from the liberal MSN.  Yes, it points out that surviving it may require long hospital stays and unpleasant experiences.  Yet, people survive it.

                  "VERIFY: Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate but numbers don't tell the whole story"

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica … r-BB1gT2Tl

                  Again, what good is the vaccine?

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                    ... especially it has killed people or maimed people who otherwise wold have been fine.
                    One person unnecessarily harmed by the vaccine is a crime.
                    In My View

              2. crankalicious profile image93
                crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                I am not worried about getting sick myself, but I am worried about possibly transmitting it to my 10 year old son, who is not vaccinated.

                1. Readmikenow profile image96
                  Readmikenowposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                  According to the CDC, your 10 year old son has a very low chance of getting the virus and if he does, his survival rate is around 99.8 percent.

                  1. MizBejabbers profile image87
                    MizBejabbersposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                    But why risk it? I wouldn't want my child to be one of the few children who suffer long-lasting effects or die from it. A few children are dying. One child is too many.

            2. Castlepaloma profile image73
              Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Lies, lies lies.
              A few may think it is a hoax. It's real except not as dangerous as a dozen other things, could be designed as a bio weapon.
              It a hoax because its used as a cover up for the failed monetary currency that is having a domino effect across the Globe right now. Like the wall domino eastern block countries collapse, except larger. Bitcoin is one cause, yet better currency and trade are in the same process.

              Fact is, since vaccines it has cause the covid deaths to doubled in speed since roll out.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                "Fact is, since vaccines it has cause the covid deaths to doubled in speed since roll out."

                Such a statement would be all the better when accompanied with facts and statistics.  Especially when the rate of infection has fallen drastically.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image73
                  Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  They tell you can work or travel if you had prior covid or a double vaccineed. If 99.5% unvaccinated people then that is a big fat lie.
                  Why?
                  At the end of 2020 world covid death were under 2 million. Since January vaccine roll out till end of july 4.2 world covid deaths. Governments, big Pharma and media are train liars. Except when Gates and Fauci tell you it will get far worst.

                  1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
                    Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                    " The Fact of the matter is this: Since vaccines have been issued/rolled out, Covid19 deaths have doubled in speed."

                    "Officials stipulated that people would be able to fly for work or travel, provided they can prove they have had Covid 19, (and have the antibodies?) or that they have taken a double-vaccine dose. Unfortunately, airplane travel is impossible for the 99.5% who are not vaccinated. Why the restrictions?
                         Because, at the end of 2020, Covid 19 deaths, worldwide, were under 2 million, but during the January-July 2021 vaccine roll-out, there were 4.2 million Covid 19 deaths. (The deaths doubled!)

                    Members of Governments, Big Pharma and the Media are trained liars,
                    but Gates and Fauci do not lie when they proclaim it will get far worse."

                    CP interpreted by KH

    3. MizBejabbers profile image87
      MizBejabbersposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      Crankalicious, you have asked an esoteric question, and nobody on this forum would believe me if I gave an honest esoteric answer. Everybody expressing an opinion, except a couple of us, are in-denial Republicans. I think some of them are fairly reasonable mainstream Republicans who don't want to accept the radical side of the GOP, which now seems to be running the party. Perhaps they should get off their duffs and take their party back. Like they are telling the Dems they should do with the radical socialists trying to take the Democrat Party. I think this country has a problem here with both parties. Each is trying to remove the splinter from its brother's eye while refusing to remove the log from its own eye.
      I don't believe we can deny that the radical side of the Republican party is an authoritarian bunch of controlling "do as I say, not as I do" people. If we let them win, they will take us back to the 1950s, which after growing up in that era, I see as one of the most hypocritical times in U.S. history.
      The only real productive thing about this era is that the politics, while doing their usual dirty deeds, didn't go about them with such hateful vigor.

    4. Valeant profile image87
      Valeantposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      This article pretty much sums up how I feel about many in the GOP currently:

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans- … 05990.html

      1. Ken Burgess profile image84
        Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Lets march all those anti-vaxxers right into re-education camps and force those 100% proven safe and effective vaccines into them!

        I am with you my brother!  They have no right to risk our health and our lives by not being vaccinated!  Vaccinations ensure there will be no new outbreaks!

        These are the same fools that don't get their Flu shots and then spread the Flu to everyone!

        They are no better than animals, they do not deserve to be treated with human dignity, they have foregone any of their rights to freedom, liberty, or self-determination.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image73
          Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          The average vaccine takes 20 years to fully develop. Death and serious side effects are being covered up between the big pharma, political and big business huge profit. About One third of small businesses have gone under. Covid is not in the top ten ways to die.

          I trust myself most being an biological being first and an animal too.

        2. Valeant profile image87
          Valeantposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          If only it was self-determination that we were talking about.  If this virus was not transmissible, then your sarcasm might be valid.  The issue is that these anti-vaxxers are putting others in danger, not just themselves.  That is far from self-determination.  Your freedom and liberty has limitations when they put others in mortal peril, and many laws exist as examples.

          There are plenty of places that require vaccinations to enter, such as public schools.  That you feel this is a new mandate or some draconian measure ignores the history of vaccines dating back to the 1850's.

          I just find it interesting that the same group that claims to be for America and the most patriotic are doing the most to cause the death of Americans and hurt the economic recovery of the country.  I don't find that patriotic, I find it simply selfish.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image84
            Ken Burgessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            There was nothing sarcastic about that comment, as your response proves, it is exactly what you believe and want to see done.

            You have many that are like-minded, it is no different then the mindset that saw the Jews as lesser beings that should be round up and placed in the Ghetto of Warsaw or in 'Worker Camps'.

            Same mindset, same belief that you have the superior knowledge and that what you believe is the truth, the only truth worth considering, and must be forced upon others because they are the threat.

            1. Valeant profile image87
              Valeantposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Well, we know what camp you reside in.  Another far-far-right person comparing taking a life saving vaccine to the holocaust.  Did you learn nothing from Marjorie Taylor Greene trying the same horrific tactic?

              If wanting to help save lives is like the Holocaust to you, you are beyond reasoning with any longer.

          2. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            "That you feel this is a new mandate or some draconian measure ignores the history of vaccines dating back to the 1850's."

            It also ignores the results of vaccines as many deadly diseases are virtually wiped from the face of America.

      2. peoplepower73 profile image90
        peoplepower73posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Valeant: I agree with the article completely.  Oh well, there goes their gene pool.  It's natures way of taking care of those who are not willing to adapt to change.  The anti-vaxxers have great regret and remorse when they enter the hospital half dead. 

        Fear can be a great motivator. Once enough of them see their friends and family suffering and dying because they didn't get vaccinated, I'm hopeful they will come around and have a "come to Jesus moment."

        The problem in this country is the news.  Both sides are preaching to their choirs. Nobody is learning anything new.  It's all about bias confirmation and cognitive dissonance that makes both sides think they are doing the right thing.

        When in fact only one side is, the other side is being fed dangerous misinformation by Carlson, Ingraham, and Hannity, all for higher ratings and megabucks for them and Rupert Murdoch and Company. 

        Right now the GOP congress, with Trump as their cheerleader is concerned about one thing only and that is getting re-elected in the mid-terms. So they are playing to their anti-vaxxer base.  They are not concerned about the danger they are bringing to this country with their anti-vaxxer mantras and Trump rallies spreading the virus.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          "Right now the GOP congress, with Trump as their cheerleader is concerned about one thing only and that is getting re-elected in the mid-terms."

          Comically, with the Democrat congress the only thing that matters is keeping Trump, and his followers, out of politics.

          It is sad and pitiful that our "leadership" has degenerated to this point, but it certainly has.  The people, and their health and even lives, are strictly secondary to both sides of the political spectrum.  They are but pawns in the power struggle.

    5. Fayetteville Faye profile image60
      Fayetteville Fayeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      The Republicans and for that matter Democrats do not care about covid and a lot of other issues. The extent to which they pretend to care is only to pander to certain groups where they feel they can build a voter base. I think the majority of our politicians these days are narcissistic and egotistical. They haven't gone into public service for the right reasons. They are not there to serve their constituents but only two enrich themselves monetarily and to build massive egos with power. The sooner that people realize this the better. It's time to either develop a third party or rework our government completely. Our government isn't for the people anymore. It's been a hijacked by pandering self-serving individuals. Sadly not enough people see that. I don't know how anyone can call themselves a Democrat or a Republican anymore. Neither party has a
      cohesive platform It's just a bunch of individuals jockeying  for power. They've got most Americans acting like elementary school kids on a playground picking teams and holding their ground when it doesn't even make sense.

  2. abwilliams profile image67
    abwilliamsposted 13 months ago

    I don't know Mike, Kathryn, Wilderness, but "every poll says the same thing".

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
      Kathryn L Hillposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      I've never been asked.

    2. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      They do.  And I think they are reasonably accurate.

      But what "every poll" does NOT ask is "do you wish America to remain in the COVID pandemic"....with the answer from most Republicans being "yes".

      1. abwilliams profile image67
        abwilliamsposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        Republicans are not the ones working against/ trying to destroy America.
        I don't know of anyone who believes that COVID is a hoax, but they sure believe it is being used against us, for a purpose.
        I must agree on the masks....nasty little things!
        There are many unknowns about the rushed through {for the sake of the elderly and sickly} vaccine and its long term effects on the young and the healthy. So the jury is still out on this one.

        Point being, I can go along with "reasonably accurate", wilderness.

        As for:

        "But what "every poll" does NOT ask is "do you wish America to remain in the COVID pandemic"....with the answer from most Republicans being "yes".

        Not a single American (with a brain and some sense) wishes us to remain in the COVID pandemic and at the same time, most know that it will never end (in some capacity) even if...they give in, to every dictate.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          Like the comment that Republicans wish the COVID pandemic to continue, the idea that Democrats are working to destroy America has no basis in reality.

          It is true that, in my opinion, many liberal goals and philosophies will do great damage to our country.  It is true beyond a shadow of a doubt that many would change what America is - that is the goal, after all.

          But no Democrat consciously sets out to "destroy America" or even "work against America" (perhaps excluding the BLM rioters such as those at CHAZ in Seattle or others bent on destruction, not building).

          1. crankalicious profile image93
            crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            Then what is the effect of not wearing a mask during the pandemic and not taking the vaccine now? And why do Republicans significantly outnumber Democrats in their unwillingness to wear a mask and their unwillingness to get vaccinated?

            https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandem … vaccinated

            I personally know a couple of people who refuse to get vaccinated. Both are white Democrats. They are just as responsible for the continued spread of COVID.

            If everyone got vaccinated, there would be no variants since it can't spread well enough among vaccinated people. Yet, people don't want to get vaccinated.

            1. wilderness profile image95
              wildernessposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              You need to be asking those that don't wear masks and don't get vaccinated, but I suspect that the answer you would get is "Nothing".  "Neither action had any effect on the fake COVID pandemic".

              And I would guess that the reason Republicans outnumber Democrats is because Republicans are much more concerned about personal freedom, much more willing to take responsibility for themselves rather than simply submit to the nanny state, and don't trust govt. committes (or govt paid scientists) to tell them the truth.

              LOL  I know two families that aren't vaccinated - both are Republicans and neither believes the numbers of people sick.

              You and I agree on the pandemic almost right down the line.  The only real difference is that I'm pretty pleased with the response by govt. (not so much the people) and you may not have been.  But that agreement has nothing to do with the motives of people refusing the vaccine or masks.  IMO, neither are trying to spread disease - that is the last thing any sane person would want.  They just disagree that their actions will do that.

          2. abwilliams profile image67
            abwilliamsposted 13 months agoin reply to this

            What are Democrats working toward then?
            What did Obama mean by fundamentally transforming the U.S. of A?
            I've never heard a good explanation.
            What DID they (the Left) have in the works, but for the interruption, better known as Trump?
            Now they have a pitiful man in office, who doesn't seem to know what is going on, even when he manages to find his notes; why him, why Joe Biden?
            What IS their agenda, if it's not to tear down this Country in order to start anew?

            1. crankalicious profile image93
              crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this

              Easy answer. Because Trump was so awful.

              1. abwilliams profile image67
                abwilliamsposted 13 months agoin reply to this

                Not at all. Obama came first.

        2. peoplepower73 profile image90
          peoplepower73posted 12 months agoin reply to this

          abwilliams;  The flu never ends, but most people get flu shots each year, that's because it mutates and the vaccine has to change along with it.

          The same thing can be said about COVID, it may never end, but that is all the more reason to get the vaccine and if it mutates beyond Delta then we have to get whatever it takes to live with it.  It is survival of the fittest.  Nature has it way of selecting those who are most fit to adapt to change.

          1. abwilliams profile image67
            abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

            I've never gotten a flu shot, that is not to say that I never would, but, so far, I haven't had the flu. I am not on any meds, I am a very healthy person. As for COVID and the shots and the mandates...if you want to continue {beyond the initial shot(s)} with new, seemingly indefinite mask mandates and what looks to be turning into quarterly booster shots, taken every year indefinitely (good grief, somebody is and will forever be profiting) BUT, even so, with all of these measures...according to this current Admins. and Fauci and the CDC....there's no guarantee you won't still get COVID...but, whatever works best for you, personally, is what you should probably do.

            1. peoplepower73 profile image90
              peoplepower73posted 12 months agoin reply to this

              abwilliams.  It's not about you or me.  It's about us.  Therein lies the difference.  We are all in this together, whether you believe it or not.  It's not about my freedom or your freedom.  It's about our freedom. 

              There are two Americas though depending on which news you subscribe to. One side presents your individual freedom to choose whether you wear a  mask and get the shot.  The other side shows unvaccinated people entering the hospital with severe illness' from the virus, some of which are dying.  They are full of profound regret that they and their families were never vaccinated.

              https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/ … riant.html

            2. Castlepaloma profile image73
              Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

              Same thing Ab

              Only once took the flu shot and caught the flu. In Canada I have 30times greater chance of dieing from the flu in my lifetime, than of death by covid.
              After that, never took the flu shot and never got the flu. Most everyone who took the flu shot, got the flu.
              Same thing with covid vaccines as they have doubled the speed of covid deaths and many self proclaim experts like Kill Gates and Faucism says it will get, much worst as they design it to come true.

              No high profits in keeping people healthy.
              Gates tells investor, lets get 20times our profit on vaccines.

              1. wilderness profile image95
                wildernessposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                "In Canada I have 30times greater chance of dieing from the flu in my lifetime, than of death by covid."

                Again such a statement would be all the better for a rigorous study on COVID deaths over a lifetime, given no vaccine.  So far the numbers indicate a MUCH better chance of dying by COVID...unless you compare a one year death toll to one of 80 years.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image73
                  Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

                  Within 66 Canadian years.

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
    Kathryn L Hillposted 13 months ago

    96% of all deaths from COVID have been from ...
    unhealthy people.

    1. crankalicious profile image93
      crankaliciousposted 13 months agoin reply to this

      That's absolutely false.

      But strangely, I don't disagree that much disease in this country is due to the many bad things people put in their bodies and lack of exercise, smoking; etc.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
        Kathryn L Hillposted 13 months agoin reply to this

        well, Yes!

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
          Kathryn L Hillposted 13 months agoin reply to this

          ... so maybe not so false?

      2. Castlepaloma profile image73
        Castlepalomaposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        The covid deaths are from 78% obese people. What Else would these covid victims be dying of? The id covid death certificate are only 6% purely covid deaths.

        I could get ban for this? Lol, like my last post unvaccinated Club. That was taken off.

  4. Readmikenow profile image96
    Readmikenowposted 13 months ago

    Report: More vaccine deaths last week than COVID-19 deaths

    The government's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, contains voluntary, unverified reports of adverse events following immunization with U.S.-licensed vaccines.

    On Monday, the Washington Post reported the FDA is preparing to announce a new warning for the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine because it has been linked to a serious but rare side effect called Guillain-Barré syndrome.

    https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/4930349/

  5. crankalicious profile image93
    crankaliciousposted 13 months ago

    That link is complete garbage.

  6. crankalicious profile image93
    crankaliciousposted 13 months ago

    I think the big question is whether those who are unvaccinated should be treated in hospitals. Maybe they should be restricted to home care.

    1. Fayetteville Faye profile image60
      Fayetteville Fayeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Lol they didn't want to take a new vaccine but expected to be treated with drugs that have about the same history as far as being new?! Again people throw out all common sense because They have been given this idea that they need to really around these causes and that they have to be "right" no matter what. People need to wake up and realize that the majority of these politicians on both sides of the aisle are ruining our countries democracy.

      1. Readmikenow profile image96
        Readmikenowposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        "treated with drugs that have about the same history as far as being new"

        What drugs are you referring to?  Could you be more specific?

        1. Fayetteville Faye profile image60
          Fayetteville Fayeposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          remdesivir

  7. abwilliams profile image67
    abwilliamsposted 13 months ago

    Exactly Mike. This is the last thing Parents or anyone else should be worrying about. It has already taken much more than we should have ever allowed. I hope that doesn't need any further explanation!

  8. abwilliams profile image67
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    There is no US, without freedom!
    I don't care to hear any longer what we all must do, I want someone {China} and every other person who knew or was involved {Fauci} in what was(is) going on in that evil Wuhan Lab, to pay!!!!
    This Country, the world, has paid enough!
    My Mom died in a hospital, alone in I.C.U. the majority of the time, not because she wasn't loved..but because of this damned virus! She didn't have it, none of us had COVID, it mattered not, (the mini physicals we had with each visit to make sure we didn't) but because of the hysteria over COVID, it didn't matter that we were masked and cleared! Her life didn't matter. She could only have 1 visitor per day for a small window of time. We couldn't go in together for moral support. Her sisters, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, church family, lifelong friends, neighbors, never got to see her again, never got to say goodbye (she went in for a fall) we thought she would just be in for one night initially.

    1. Credence2 profile image77
      Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      I extend my condolences to you for the loss of your mom under such circumstances.

      1. abwilliams profile image67
        abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Thank you Cred, sincerely!

      2. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
        Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        my story too.
        Only, none of us got to see her while she was in the physical rehabilitation center for the last month of her life.
        "No family members ever came." Did she understand?
        Augh.

        1. Credence2 profile image77
          Credence2posted 12 months agoin reply to this

          We are all overrun with pestilence in this current world, there are probably as many variants to the COVID-19 as there are letters in the alphabet. I afraid that the need to mask and watch your distance will be the new normal, regardless of how difficult that is to accept.

        2. abwilliams profile image67
          abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          I'm sorry Kathryn, so tough!
          No, I'm afraid they did not understand! sad

  9. abwilliams profile image67
    abwilliamsposted 12 months ago

    .....and on top of all of this, my middle son almost died last weekend after (1) shot of the Moderna vaccine. (which he never wanted to start with, but had to have in order to get into Canada)
    You need to take your argument somewhere else, I'm spent!

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
      Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      wait! how did he almost die????

      1. abwilliams profile image67
        abwilliamsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        He had the shot on a Thurs., flew to South Fl the next day and after leaving a restaurant, became disoriented, sweating profusely, tightness in his chest and a stiff neck (he's a 35 year old health nut and seriously thought he was having a heart attack) his girlfriend took him to the E.R. which was close by (thank God)! His heart rate was in the 40's at first and kept dropping, into the 30's, before they got him stabilized. This was two weekends ago and he still isn't feeling back to 100%.
        I keep thinking what IF he had been alone or had been driving when he had this (reaction) is what they called it. He had (1) dose of the Moderna vaccine.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image77
          Kathryn L Hillposted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, I knew a guy ... in his forties. A pool lifeguard, loved by all. He died (recently) from a heart attack while driving his car. Don't know much more, but that could have been yours ... anyone's son.

  10. Pamela99 profile image91
    Pamela99posted 9 months ago

    I am vaccinated, I am a Republican, and I believe you are wrong.

  11. Fayetteville Faye profile image60
    Fayetteville Fayeposted 9 months ago

    I'm an independent and I just see the statistics from state to state on vaccination rates and it shows that states with the lowest rates are by far Republican states. The facts are the facts and it is what it is. There is lots of speculation on why this has  happened.

  12. Fayetteville Faye profile image60
    Fayetteville Fayeposted 9 months ago

    molnupiravir

 
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