Glenn Beck, Inciting Murder and Revolution

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   lovemychrisposted 15 years ago

   I hope so too!!
   
   I saw a speech of hers from years back...before the housing bubble burst. She predicted it, and why!!!
   
   And she is no wilting flower. She speaks her mind.

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   William R. Wilsonposted 15 years ago

   Back onto the original topic:
   
   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boeh … 60429.html

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   leebertteaposted 15 years ago

   Exactly! The ideaology of the left can't stand the light of day so their only strategy is to demonize the right.

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      ledefensetechposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yet that is also a tactic of the Right as well.  Some of us haven't forgotten the way our last President connected the data on WMD's in Iraq they way he wanted to, not they way it turned out in reality.  In fact the last administration opened the door the present administration kicked in.  TARP did not originate with Timothy Geithner, but with Henry Paulson.

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         leebertteaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I don't believe the intelligence on Iraq was manipulated. I believe America was duped into believing Iraq had weapons by Hussein himself. Remember Saddam was at war with Iran and it would not have been wise on his part to admit he didn't have the bomb, especially while Iran was secretly trying to develop a weapon of their own.
         
         Regardless, I agree the war in Iraq should not have been waged.
         
         Yes the bailout were the work of Bush and Pauison. There's no defense for their actions. Worse was that no government ageny saw the crisis coming until about a month before the meltdown. Not providing a bailout may not have worked either at that point so I suppose the Bush view was it's better to do something than nothing. Besides he wasn't worried about being re-elected.

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            William R. Wilsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            
            
            Um.  No, Iraq wasn't at war with Iran.  That war ended in the 80s.  And, actually, all the WMD that Saddam had, we knew about because we had provided them, during the war with Iran.  Most of which had long passed their shelf life (chemical and biological weapons do degrade over time). 
            
            And let's not forget the Anthrax attacks... which actually came from inside the US......

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               leebertteaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Oh really? Was a peace treaty signed?

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                  William R. Wilsonposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80 … _ceasefire

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years ago

   A sampling of some of "the left's own words" used against them by Beck.
   
   Poor, poor persecuted visionary.  Reminds me so much of Jesus.
   
   ''Every night I get down on my knees and pray that Dennis Kucinich will burst into flames.''
   —Glenn Beck, in 2003
   
   ''This president I think has exposed himself over and over again as a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture....I'm not saying he doesn't like white people, I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist.''
   —Glenn Beck, on President Obama, sparking an advertiser exodus from his FOX News show, July 28, 2009
   
   ''I have been nervous about this interview with you because what I feel like saying is, 'Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies. ... And I know you're not. I'm not accusing you of being an enemy, but that's the way I feel, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way.''
   —Glenn Beck, interviewing Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim U.S. congressman, Glen Beck's show on CNN's Headline News, Nov. 14, 2006
   
   ''The only [Katrina victims] we're seeing on television are the scumbags.''
   —Glenn Beck on his radio show, Sept. 9, 2005
   
   ''When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh shut up' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining.''
   —Glenn Beck on his radio show, Sept. 9, 2005
   
   You can tell a lot about someone by examining their heroes.  It provides a great morning laugh reading the posts of those who idolize Beck, Palin, W, and McCarthy and then whine that they are not taken seriously in discussions.

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      Daniel Carterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I rest my case. Beck is not Independent as TMMason proposed. He's a bigot with a big mouth and gets paid to be that way. He erroneously believes that his arrogance and judgments to be truth.
      
      The guy is a nutjob. He perpetuates irrational thinking and stupidity.

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I don't think he's a nut job, I think he's a priest to the masses of ignorant followers who act on his words as if he actually believed them. He's making millions in the process like any successful televangelist.

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         leebertteaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Every one of those statements are taken out of context, you know, the very thing the left complained about that was done to Shirley Sherrod. I guess it's okat when the left does it though.

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            Daniel Carterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Taken out of context? They were quotes, not interpretations.
            
            I'm not a liberal. I think liberals are as much a false religion as conservatives. I just think there are a lot of idiots making big money claiming the sky is falling, trying to scare everyone, claiming they are the source of truth. Note how that sounds like TelEvangilism. The "God is on my side" mentality is insane. Why would he ever be on any one person's side and eliminate the whole of humanity?
            
            "An Inconvenient Truth" comes to mind on the liberal side. Now we find most of "Global Warming" is not based in fact, but information again that spins into something reactionary. Kind of like what Beck does, huh. Twists information, spins it, and makes people angry, depressed, and reactionary.
            
            How is either of these approaches good?
            
            One is as bad as the other. I dislike Beck equally as much as many other liberal spinners. They are all bad news.

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               leebertteaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               These were Srirley Sherrod's OWN words!
               
               "I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farm land, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. So I didn’t give him the full force of what I could do."
               
               You see how she reveals her racism?
               
               Context is everything! Beck oftens mocks the left and those statements come from him doing his "routine"
               
               Of course you have probably never watched his show or never watched and entire show or perhaps you did watch him.... once.
               
               Did you see the one where he dropped a frog in a pot of boiling water? It was all over the blogs the next day, the only problem is the frog he dropped in the pot was a rubber frog. You see even the leftist bloggers that want to discredit him don't really watch his show.

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                  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Shirley went on in that very speech to desribe her ability and duty to overcome her initial prejudice.  The farmer in question has praised her for helping him to keep his farm.
                  
                  Did Glenn go on to describe how he overcame his wish for Kucinich to burst into flames?  Do Beck's victims praise him for his help in keeping them from bursting into flame or dealing with personal tragedy?
                  
                  You fellers is backin' the wrong horse.

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                     leebertteaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     You are making my point. Yes Sherrod went on to say how she over came her own prejudice. In fact Beck took her side and called for the release of the entire transcript before anyone makes a judgement of Sherrod . He pleaded with the administration to re-instate her to her job until all the facts were know. Funny how the left didn't bother to report THAT. By the way, I was watching that night and I can attest to what he said.
                     
                     Again, I don't know the context of the quote. But if you find the transcript I'm SURE you will see that context makes a difference.
                     
                     He might have said something like this:
                     
                     I'm sure the left wing bloggers are sitting in their underwear in their mother's basement right now typing how 'Every night I get down on my knees and pray that Dennis Kucinich will burst into flames.''
                     
                     Do you see how that quote is suddenly different?

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                        Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        If that were remotely possible....

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                           leebertteaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           As I said, if you watch his show, you would see him say things like that in that context all the time. I'd be willing to bet that the context of that quote was something along those lines. I tried searching for it but all I get is left wing blogs of the original quote, a testament to the pervasivness of left wing media everywhere distorting the truth and promoting their agenda.

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                  Daniel Carterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Apparently we will disagree all day and all night on this.
                  And I respect your right to disagree with me. 
                  
                  Making points is fine. Continuing to argue and ram a brick wall incessantly doesn't seem to do any good.  I think I've hit that point here.
                  
                  Over and out on this subject.

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   lovemychrisposted 15 years ago

   I see Shirley Sherrod is going to sue that race-baiting Fox operative Breitbart.
   
   Good for her!! And she said she would NEVER go on Fox, as they're not interested in the truth, only spin. Hoorah! Bout TIME somebody stands up to the Clown Show!
   
   And she said the young people of this country need a history lesson...Barrack Obama included!
   
   GOD..it's so good to see someone say what needs to be said!!!

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   Ralph Deedsposted 14 years ago

   Mitch Albom puts the Sherrod fiasco and Breitbart in perspective.
   
   Some people have called this incident a referendum on racism. I don't think so. It was a referendum on editing. A referendum on Internet blogging. A referendum on our blazing desire for explosive moments -- even out of context -- and our creeping slowness to see the full picture.
   
   http://www.freep.com/article/20100725/C … -messenger

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      William R. Wilsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Good article Ralph, thanks.

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   lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

   The full picture is the republibaggers want the dems out. They don't want a fair and equal America...they want one for the rich and wealthy.
   
   And they will do what ever it takes to get the dems out of there. That is the full picture, imo.
   
   And i don't plan to sit there quietly and pretend that it's not happening.
   
   ****
   
   President Obama signed the crack cocaine legislation today...they have been fighting for that for 25 years. I could cry because it's such a good thing, and nobody cares.
   
   Ledbetter....I care! Abortion rights...I care!! Stem cell research....I care! Rescinding the law that you can't even discuss birth control....I care!  Rescinding the tax break the repubs gave business to take jobs overseas!!! I care!!
   
   So much they do I agree with....and geuss what?? I don't care what you call me. I'm for freedom and the right to live as I see fit. And I want everybody in my country to have the basic necessities of life no matter how much money they are born into.
   
   The minute Obama took office, we switched from "my way or the highway", to "let's talk". I appreciate that. That's what I, and the majority of us voted for.
   
   Stop trying to take it away before it has a chance to get going!!!
   
   Or it will have to get as ugly as you are making it...and that would be a shame.

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      Jim Hunterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "Or it will have to get as ugly as you are making it...and that would be a shame."
      
      Yes we want Obama gone and Pelosi,Reed, and many many more.
      
      But what does your statement mean? Are you threatening violence if the vote doesn't go your way?
      
      Do you have any idea how bad that would turn out for you libs?
      
      Take a deep breath and say Oooooooolm.
      
      Do that for, say three and a half months.
      
      Then report back, I'll bet you feel much different.

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   lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

   "Yes we want Obama gone and Pelosi,Reed, and many many more."
   
   Have at it. Just expect the same treament for your candidates as you have doled out on these.
   
   
   Dignity and respect has been erased from the political landscape. Expect to be Foxed and Limbaughed ad naseum. I just hope they don't cry when they get it....you know how bullies are...usually the biggest babies of them all.

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      Jim Hunterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Where were you for the last 8 years?
      
      Respect?
      
      Liberals never show the opposition respect but always demand it.
      
      Problem is with dullards like Carter, Clinton and Obama is liberals never command respect.
      
      Respect?

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   Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

   Sherrod's going to lose the suit.  It was Obama freaking out that got her fired.  Breitbart is not in a position to fire her.

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      Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      That may be true, but I haven't seen any evidence that Obama was or wasn't involved. Have you?

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         Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Any trace is probably gone by now.  But remember that she did reference the White House when she got the call from her cell.

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            Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Oh, you are speculating or attempting intentionally to pull a Breitbart by misleading us. Good try.

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               Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Pull a Breitbart? No, you didn't...you did!

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    Tom Cornettposted 14 years ago

    Why are liberals so concerned with Beck?  He is on just one of hundreds of stations.  He seems to be promoted by liberal attacks more than anything else.  The guy is a genius of marketing.

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    Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

    Obama is not guilty of libel in the case of Shirley Sherrod.
    Breitbart is.

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       Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Breitbart is guilty?  Did the court case happen and there was a judgment that I didn't know about?

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    Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

    Jim,
    Define "dullard" in the context of the three Democrat POTUSes you named.
    Seems to me the real "dullard" POTUSes in recent history would be Ford, Reagan and W.

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       Jim Hunterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Dullard Jimmy Carter,Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. Man that dictionary must be conservative.

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    Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

    No, there has of course not yet been a court case or a judgment handed down, Flightkeeper.
    You said that it was Obama freaking out that got her fired (not proven -- the buck may or may not start/end with Vilsack).
    And that Breitbart is not in a position to fire her.
    Yes, that is certainly true.
    
    No one is claiming that Breitbart directly fired Sherrod.
    He did, however, deliberately (and one could correctly argue "with malice aforethought") post misleading information that portrayed Ms. Sherrod in a negative, racist light.
    He set in motion the series of events that led to Ms. Sherrod's firing.
    With or without the firing (which I agree he did not "directly" cause)his actions caused Ms. Sherrod harm.
    I think she WILL win her case.

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I hope so. He's one of the slimiest slimeballs around these days. Or as my granddad would say, "crookeder'n a dog's hind leg."

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       Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Nah, I don't think so.  She has no standing to sue Breitbard. All he did was show a video of her talking about what she did. Everything that happened to her after that was a reaction by others.  The grounds for defamation are not there.

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          C.J. Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Agreed. I wonder...was the speach she made public? If so, it only bolsters the bloggers defense.

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             ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Nah, Breitbart doesn't have a defense.  He ran with the story without researching it, that's pretty much a given.  What people are unsure of is if he made a deliberate mistake.  Did he, in fact, spin the news.  I have a hard time believing that one.  If he had the whole thing and edited it, then he must have known he'd have been outed.  But while it might not be probable he knew, it's certainly possible he edited the video.
             
             Beck, on the other hand, meticulously researches his topics.  That's what makes him so effective, he shows what people say in their own words.  Funny thin is that none of this would be possible without the Internet.  Politicians too used to the old school way of doing things are getting tripped up by it.

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                Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Re Breitbart, does a chicken have lips?
                
                Re Beck, he may research his topics but he fails to understand what he finds in his research and he reaches false conclusions+. He's a pathetic dropout loser.

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    Mud is smarter than Beck! The guy is a lunatic.
    
    He is considered a comedy show in my country!

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    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    It IS a comedy, that's the infuriating part!! That's where he got his start, on a radio entertainment show called the Morning ZOO.
    
    He's a clown....for real!
    An actor, who plays a part.
    
    Because he was just as CONvincing decrying the US medical system on CNN as he was CONvincing saying it was the best once he went to Faux!!
    
    Flip flop??How about triple back-flip!!

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       Sylvie Strongposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Flightkeeper, you can engage in creative editing to make a defamatory statement.  I don't have an opinion about whether Sherrod's defamation suit is likely to succeed, but saying that this was footage of Sherrod's own comments would not be a good defense in my opinion.  And the core of damages in a defamation suit is the harm that arises from the defamatory statement.  Usually the harm occurs from the "reaction of others."

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    KFlippinposted 14 years ago

    Just the words in the topic are offensive, have been offensive since it was posted. 
    
    Americans should well look to who is paying the bills for quite a few people, how odd that Beck is considered so influential and worthy of that, as opposed to the Black Panther Party, which I highly doubt is so lacking in money and influential interested parties as indicated here -- they would stridently disagree, and have.  And I'd imagine that if their leader applied himself to a book, spoken honestly, it would sell like wildfire.
    
    And whose money is actually behind all the mainstream networks that fail to report the 'news' without a slant and edit to suit......someone? Couric is not still boring America because she used to be pretty.

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    AlexiusComnenusposted 14 years ago

    Glenn Beck has some very interesting ideas. While not all good he is certainly more right than wrong. I wish I had his soapbox. Maybe if we did we'd see that it's harder than it looks. So cut him some slack.

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    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    No way does he deserve any slack. He can deal with the repercussions of his manipulating behavior.
    Watch on Aug 28 the rallies.
    
    He could not lick King's shoes, let alone pretend to be like him.
    Remember, King was starting a Poor People's Campaign.
    Beckles the Shill is all about the money. He made 32 million last year.......tell me, what does he know about being poor in America?
    Ergo, how can he compare himself to MLK?
    How can he compare the tea-baggers to civil rights?
    Are they second-class citizens?
    No...they are trying to make certain people STAY second class citizens!!!!!! (people of color, to be exact)
    
    I hope he gets what he deserves, and I hope I live to see it.

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       TamCorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       
       
       
       What, exactly, are you hoping he gets?
       
       Wow...that chip on your shoulder must REALLY be getting heavy by now...

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    ledefensetechposted 14 years ago

    I wonder if Lefties ever get tired of being wrong and having their lies exposed:
    
    

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       Jim Hunterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       "I wonder if Lefties ever get tired of being wrong and having their lies exposed:"
       
       I would have to say no.
       
       Its what I find so endearing about them.

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    rlaframboiseposted 14 years ago

    I just lol when I see a link to the dailykos.
    
    There should be a revolution in this country if we want to protect what made us great.

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