http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2011 … yesterday/
Is he really any different than Mubarak in Egypt? The only difference between the USA and Egypt is Americans are more tolerant... but how much longer will we suffer quietly under his leadership?
Yes, that's one good reason for his resignation.
Add the list goes on and on.
How long will we suffer?
Until the Right learns how to stand just as firm as the Left whines.
"Until the Right learns how to stand just as firm as the Left whines."
I don't believe that is possible.
You're right - both parties need each other.
Vote Libertarian.
Indeed, they do have a monopoly on that.
Brenda, talking to yourself is a sign of senilty; are you hearing carp again?
I think others had a more 'closer' relationship with Mubarak...
Don't forget Cheney. He said he and Mubarak are "good friends".
"If Obama is willing to listen to the protesters of a foreign country due to their grievances from high food and energy prices and an unresponsive government, shouldn’t he accede to the similar demands of his own citizens and resign immediately?"
Except for the fact that President Obama was elected in a free and fair democratic election by not only a clear majority of the Electoral College but also a clear majority of the American People.
Mubarak has never had that experience.
he has had a lot of our money, though!
hooray! we paid for his tyranny!
hooray! his likely predecessor, Gen. Omar Suleiman, enjoys torture!
"hooray! his predecessor enjoys torture!" I assume you mean Obama's predecessor?
i dunno, Obama has yet to close Gitmo...
and alot of those people sent to be tortured by Suleiman were likely sent through US ships.
Yeah, we really ought to have learned by now, based on history, that in the long term, backing repressive strongmen tends to destabilize rather than stabilize. The Shah, Saddam (he was the US's guy once upon a time, folks), Noriega, Batista, and now Mubarak.
"While our nation languishes amidst record food and energy prices, unprecedented underemployment (including those excluded from the workforce) and economic stagnation"
What a crock. Energy prices are lower today than they were in 2007. Fact. Unprecedented underemployment? When Obama took office, it was a little over 8%. Now is it hovering around 9% When Reagan took office, it was at 6.4%, and by his comparable time in office, at the end of his 2nd year it was at 10.8%. SO AGAIN - LIE! Economic stagnation? We have grown at .2% higher than our national average over the last 100 years. So - the entire article is a flat out lie, from beginning to end, just like most of the stuff you post.
Note to author: Peppering your writing with pompous, polysyllabic words that your audience has to look up in the dictionary (if they even have one) does not make your argument any truer. This reads like an eager 8th grader's social studies report.
Still, it's heartening to see our RedState brethren have not moved any to the left....
You're on a roll this morning, LaLo. I can hardly wait for your next thread.
I thought it was well written and succinctly laid out how all of Obama's policies are hurting the middle class. At least you didn't dismiss the facts because of the source... that's a step in the right direction... first recognize you have a problem... then you can actually do something about it!
You're correct.
It's not possible because the Right already owns the patent on both obstruction and whining.
GOP Congressional mantra: "Just say no!"
The left is trying to get this country out of the giant cesspool of a mess we are in and all the right can do is sputter and vote no.
Newsflash: We are all suffering so why don't you help us do something constructive instead of sitting around bashing our president?
"We are all suffering so why don't you help us do something constructive instead of sitting around bashing our president?"
I'm not suffering.
We are doing something constructive by stopping the destruction.
Bashing the President is our National pastime.
Your side did it and continues to do so two years after one left.
Please quit with the false outrage.
My side has been doing it non stop since John Adams.
Libertarians are pretty consistent!
"It's not possible because the Right already owns the patent on both obstruction and whining."
Absolutely!
there is the small fact that Obama was elected President, which Mubarak was not...
but let's not let democracy get in the way of things if our candidate wasn't the one elected
What are you talking about? Mubarak won with like 96% of the vote last time! Hey even Joe Biden said he wasn't a dictator! LOL
yeah, but his electoral system was set up by the "Florida Republican Committee for Electoral Fairness"
"We the People" elect our gov't officials.
If, "We the People" elect an "idiot" to office, who is to blame? The "idiots" are:
"We the People!"
I'm not saying Obama is an "idiot" Not at all!
Our "founding fathers" conceived our "Constitution" with the idea that no one singular facet of gov't could gain despotic control!
Obama can suggest,he can pressure he can cajole, but he is not a single factor that makes decisions! he, in reality, is the titular head of a democratic/republic!
It is shameful that so many of "We the People" don't understand gov't and have never read the "Constitution!"
I see comments here that are based on emotion and political "one-sidedness" not logic and understanding!
To me, that defines the commenter as being an incredible idiot!
QWark
Obviously you are unaware of Obama's defiance of federal judge's rulings and his goverance by decree using executive orders to circumvent congress. Perhaps you should read the linked piece before you blame American voters for our predicament.
""We the People" are the "idiots!"
If you don't see that or don't understand it, is it no wonder we're enmeshed in political and economic insanity!
Small thinkers All!
Whew!
QWark
I'm thinking we should re-elect George W. Bush maybe that will make everyone happy.
Span:
If that happened I'd move to Ecuador...lol :
Qwark
Then let 'em. Wouldn't be any skin off the noses of patriotic Americans!
I'm curious about the word patriotic. I never met patriotic people until I came to America. I have always met people who put the humanity of others ahead of patriotism.
To me, just as it is irrelevant what color one's skin is, so it is irrelvant what country one comes from.
I most certainly wouldn't support a country just because I was born in it. In fact, I would never support any country.
I suport people. It is irrelevant where they come from, what their skin color or religion is, or anything else. The only relevancy is that they are not criminals.
Hi Sophia:
Most of those kinds of people are "reactors," not thinkers.
They are easily led and their concept of "reality" is warped..or..doesn't exist.
Qwark
That's admirable... the problem is when people ask the government to be the agent of support... and this is where the patriotism comes in bc America was once a country that was self governed by self reliant people that took care of their neighbors.
Lady Love, not sure I understand what you are saying. What has self reliance got to do with pledging obedience to a non-entity, a construct tmeant to keep people obedience. There is nothing smart about being a patriot. It's plain dumb.
In fact, self reliant people aren't patriotic. They know better.
There's nothing wrong with patriotism. Certainly it isn't unique to the USA. Taking pride in where you live and looking out for her interests and those of your fellow citizens is putting people first, like family is put ahead of strangers.
Perhaps, we're different in that I don't put family ahead of strangers. I put what is right ahead of all things, family or not. It's wonderful if one's family is doing the right thing, but if one's family is doiing the wrong thing, then it's the wrong thing to do to support them.
The danger of patriotism is precisely that it puts one group's interests ahead of another group, not because it is the greater good for all, but because it is self-interested and self-promoting.
Except right and wrong isn't always clear and is dependent on information rat may not be true and now you have to decide where will you stand?
Ladylove, that is why it is so important not to be ignorant. Understanding ethics, the greater good for the greater number over the longest period of time has many, many sides to it. Also, understanding outcomes from particular courses of actions is also essential.
For instance, once upon a time, it wasn't known that the way one was treated as a child had an impact on one's character. Today, that is known. I've written several hubs and articles on ethics.
Ethics are vital to making decisions. Unfortunately, most people take their idea of what 'good' is from mythical religions.
Not to argue semantics...no wait, that's totally what I'll do:
Sophia, you seem to be confounding patriotism with nationalism.
The patriot says "I will do my best to see that my country does what is right." The nationalist says, "My country is the best and whatever it does is right."
The patriot says, "I'm going to help make my country a great place to live in for all of its citizens."
The nationalist says, "My country's fine the way it is, no improvement needed. Love it or leave it."
yeah, you are so right... it DOES take a village
Please supply some evidence supporting this assertion.
Read the Constitution, or the Articles of Confederation.
Start with the 10th amendment, then move on to Federalist #41
Have read them-many times. More importantly, I understand them. You arrogantly continue your assertion that YOUR interpretation of Constitutional issues is superior to all others - including those of legal scholars including those who sit or have sat on the SCOTUS.
This position works well in the confines of an isolated Montana shack, but it's pretty worthless when discussing the issues of a nation numbering over 300 million people.
it's hard to misinterpret "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.";
or to misinterpret: "But what color can the objection have, when a specification of the objects alluded to by these general terms immediately follows, and is not even separated by a longer pause than a semicolon? If the different parts of the same instrument ought to be so expounded, as to give meaning to every part which will bear it, shall one part of the same sentence be excluded altogether from a share in the meaning; and shall the more doubtful and indefinite terms be retained in their full extent, and the clear and precise expressions be denied any signification whatsoever? For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power?"
or: "Article II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every Power, Jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled."
So... I guess I am arrogant.
Arrogant about the TRUTH!! RAWR!!
Patrioctic doesnt mean believing anything and everything!
Oh my!
Brenda your comment bought to mind 3 blind mice
,see how they run lol
Not even gonna read through the long list of right-wing, group masturbatory posts. The fact that he pisses off the lunatic fringe so effectively is reason for sainthood, not resignation.
Me too, Ron! I love it when the usual group of humorous righties bash Obama. This lets me know the pres is doing a wonderful job.
Keep it up guys!
I love that he admits to only reading the left-wing posts.
lollerskates.
Has any President ever resigned?
Just wondering....( cuz I can think of a couple who should've been fired)
I have never seen so many "dumb" Americans making so many "dumb" remarks publicly!
I may be a "dumb" American too, but I at least have read the "Constitution" and the history of the past 200+ yrs of existing as a democratic republic.
The "operative" concept of a democratic republic is that "We the People" vote for our leadership!
Once in power, that elected leadership rules!
Most Americans don't vote, but complain like hell.
Those that do vote, vote party line or by emotion!
it costs so much to become a "President" that a qualified little man can't play.
The "electoral" college is "passe!" A president should be elected by a majority vote!...and not like dubya was!
An atheist could never be the pres of the USA unless he lies and attends church every sunday and asks for "god" to bless America. How screwed up is that?
I am a "patriot" in every sense but offering my life for country.
I spent 4 yrs of my life in the military but in a non-combat role with a "crypto" clearance. Because of that, 4 yrs of college was paid for. The last 2 I worked and paid for!
The American voter is scary!...dumb, religious and scary!
Qwark
I was hoping for a Democrat victory in November and four more years of Shining Handsome Obama.
UCV,
Looks like your hope is going to come true. Glad you came around to our way of thinking .
You people scare me. You really do. You're so blinded with notions of morality and the fear of a phantom enemy that anyone who disagrees with you instantly becomes a servant of TEH SATAN!
I'm not a fan of Obama. I think he's incompetent. But I don't go comparing him to an Egyptian tyrant. It's called objectivity. Maybe you guys can step back and think for a moment before you start throwing out words like socialist, communist, leftist, rightist, orthodontist, as if it means anything.
LOL, mortimerjackson! You've just solved the whole partisan politics problem!
What we need is a good orthodontist to straighten us all out!
LOVE IT!
This is better than watching golf on TV - and just as hard to figure out who's winning.
What's amazing is that the wingnut strategy is to gain power by tearing down the president.The degree of falsehood and distortion doesn't seem to be of any concern to those of high morals. The fact is - I will vote for a republican if he has a better plan than the democrat he's running against - but being against the democrat is NOT a plan.
oh, give me a break.
The left was doing the same thing during the Bush years.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/ … 2034.shtml
Hell, even I voted for Kerry. I went around telling people "anyone but Bush".
I regret it. I wish Ron Paul would've stood up to Giuliani years ago.
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