Palin will not Debate?

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   dutchman1951posted 11 years ago

   Debate is open to officaly declared candidates, and also to those thinking about it?  So why not debate then?
   
   You have to have good knowledge of real issues and an offical position concerning, as well as Ideas to Debate openly on.
   
   She is offering her opinion all over the Country, so why not debate it?
   
   your thouhts and opinions would be interesting if you folks care to discuss.  Would like to read them.

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   Cagsilposted 11 years ago

   Debate requires a little bit of intelligence, which I don't think she is up for. Not to mention, if she isn't having her lines fed to her, then I don't think she could carry a serious conversation, over a broad range of topics.

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      dutchman1951posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I have to agree here, I think she is very much an adolescent in her mind set.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 11 years ago

   She's got two hands to write what to say on

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Even with two hands including both sides, I still don't think she could handle it.

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         dutchman1951posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Crib notes on the Civil War and Paul Revier would be obvious I guess!!!!!!

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   KK Trainorposted 11 years ago

   I don't think she has any intention of running so why should she take up space at the debate? She's doing what she likes and as long as people go out to see her she'll continue. I don't understand why everyone (the left) is so obsessed with her. She will most likely just campaign for whoever the nominee ends up being, and they'll be happy to have her because she brings a certain number of votes along with her support.

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      dutchman1951posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      She is disrupting the G.O.P. serious candidates though, and that is what the Good Ol Tea Baggers are counting on I think.

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         TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         What serious canadates... the Progressives fox and the RNC would like us to vote for. huh What a joke. There will be no Progressive on the ticket this year. Americans have seen the game played by the liberal democrat and Progressives over the last 100 years.
         
         We are taking our Party back from the Progressives and they can re-join their Leftists brethren in the democrat party. Will will return to the days of the radical republicans and to hell with Teddy and woodrow and all the infiltrators.

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            KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Like McCain? While I would obviously prefer him to Obama, I don't like all that mushy compromise stuff. Take a stand and stand by it!
            
            I seriously think Palin is moving to Arizona so that she can run to replace him when he retires, and he will endorse her. That is her only path to the White House as far as I can see.

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            Texasbetaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Only guys who believe that people like McCarthy were great Americans would believe that the psychos we have on the Republican ticket are not conservative enough. He is waiting for Darth Vadar.

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         KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I don't know how she's disrupting them. They're all grown-ups and can prove themselves in the debates. And I don't think the Tea Party is trying to ruin the candidates because whoever is the nominee they will end up supporting. I really don't think it will be Bachmann, and I pray it isn't. She's an idiot.

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            TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            As I said we, Consevatives, need top take our Party back. It has been to long since a real conservative was leading us.

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               KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Why? Because the media makes jokes of them. Would you want to espouse your political beliefs and me ridiculed and mocked because the media considered you a bigot and a neanderthal? Not many have the stomach for it, and even Fox pays no attention to the more conservative candidates. So where do they go for attention? Only the debates I guess.

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               Texasbetaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               RRRREEEAAALLLY? Your party has gone too liberal? WOW! I guess you are right...they actually talk to the poor people before they spit in their faces huh? How liberal! Want to bring back segregation do ya?

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            rebekahELLEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Bachmann is nauseating.
            
            Palin is playing the game. She will end up hurting the efforts of the GOP.

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               Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Hey Rebekah, just for haha's let me know which politician isn't nauseating?

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   TMMasonposted 11 years ago

   She is not running so why debate. i told you all she is doing exactly what she wants and the Left is falling for it. She is no more than the distraction.

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      KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      They are obsessed are they not? Funny to watch.

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         TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         If it is her plan, she is plahying them like the fools they are. And I posted some interesting stuff in palins emails for you. A very telling executive order. and it is fubnny the media screamed till bush released all his docs.

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         earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         No, this thread is funny to watch.

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            dutchman1951posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            elaborate Earnest, please? Would value the opinion for real, no joke.

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      dutchman1951posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      TM, I think she is a planted distraction for the Tea folks, until the Honerable Michelle says ok, enough of that, it helped.
      
      Not sure but she has no place, just a feeling on my part, but an un-proven one as yet.

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         TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Myself Dutch i believe she is a Progressive plant... she did not get the governorship of Alaska from the Progressive hands for nothing.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 11 years ago

   Nothing would make me happier than for the media to completely ignore Palin...

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      dutchman1951posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      agree, that would be nice to see. Palin = white space

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         Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Hey Dutchman, Palin = White Space? No, more like White Noise!

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      Evan G Rogersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      She's a distraction.
      
      "Hey, let's all look at this dumb idiots e-mails... what's that? 5 undeclared wars? Who cares! Palin is just too much fun!"

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         TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly... and she is doing just what she wants to, evan. Distracting the Leftist.

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            Evan G Rogersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I wish I could go on a vacation using PAC money

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               Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Start a PAC?

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               Texasbetaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               They are the same as people like Oral Roberts. They usher in funds from scared, ignorant old people, and then go on vacation with it. PAC have no rules. They appeal to the lowest common denominator.

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   KK Trainorposted 11 years ago

   Oh Dang it! Michelle is running... better get some earplugs.

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   Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

   Just finished sticking my finger down my throat after watching the debate.
   Gawd, what a horror show.
   I have to give it to Evan G. Rogers. He's been saying for months (if not years) that Ron Paul is the one to watch. In my mind, he was the only one up there who stood out and made sense. He's a class act!!
   
   With Michelle B semi-officially in the race, I don't think Palin will run. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if she wants the Veep slot again. Although the idea of moving to Arizona (where, "coincidentally" Bristol bought a house!) makes a lot of sense, too.

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      TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Arizona will ahve a few seats open this year, Kyl, McCain, anb I would think Giffords house seat will go up at some point.

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         Mighty Momposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Probably so, TMMason.
         I saw a picture of Ms. Giffords on the news tonight.
         She looks like a completely different woman.
         God bless her.
         
         But aside from starting and ending with the letter "a" like Alaska, wouldn't Arizona be something of a shock for Sarah Palin? Oh wait -- are there grizzlies in the Grand Canyon???

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            KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, Giffords looks good. And those pics were before her skull was replaced, so she probably looks even better now.
            
            I am pretty sure Palin's plan is to replace McCain. He would endorse her when he's ready to retire, which may be soon. She already bought a house there, separate from the one Bristol bought. That's my prediction at least.

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      Evan G Rogersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      RON PAUL!!!
      
      The only one in the debate who didn't resort to simply insulting Obama, who didn't resort to mindless rhetoric, who didn't have to preface everything with "that was taken out of context", and who answered each question with a consistent political philosophy.
      
      I especially loved his response to "should we listen to our generals"
      
      Here's a quote from an article:
      
      
      http://www.uncoveredpolitics.com/2011/0 … ue-moment/
      
      Pure, unbridled Awesomeness.

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         lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Soooo, wouldn't that make him "The Decider"? Kind of like a King?
         
         And what makes you think the Generals and the Pentagon would let him do what he wants?
         
         Lot of money in  them thar profiteering hills....

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            Evan G Rogersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Ron Paul has never voted against his ideology.
            
            20 years of no-flip-flopping is good enough evidence for me!

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         Jeff Berndtposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I like Paul's answer, but find it hilarious that the article called it "Reaganesque." Reagan sent our troops running all over the globe, and attacked Libya, if you remember.

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            Evan G Rogersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Oh, yeah.
            
            No one in the media seems to understand that Paul is a libertarian.
            
            Oh well. He's "unelectable" because the people in the media are stupid.

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               Texasbetaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Paul has many admirable qualities. I appreciate his honesty. What's his take on supply side economics?

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   Reality Bytesposted 11 years ago

   I just need to point out one thing!!
   
   Obama is not debating anyone! He is also RUNNING for office. 
   
   If anyone should answer to the people's questions, this is the guy!
   
   BTW:  Where is Obama's Senatorial Emails?  Seriously, where are they?

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      TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Here they are... lolllllll
      
      On January 21st, 2009, his very first day in office, Barack Obama implemented and signed into law Executive Order 13489. The Executive Order that states that only the records he chooses to be made public will be released?
      
      This is the subject that was at the absolute top of his agenda?
      
      He has completely hidden his past. The Obama records which have not been released include;
      
      • Passport records
      
      • Obama kindergarten records
      
      • Punahou School records
      
      • Occidental College records
      
      • Columbia University records
      
      • Columbia thesis
      
      • Harvard Law School records
      
      • Harvard Law Review articles
      
      • University of Chicago scholarly articles
      
      • Illinois State Bar Association records
      
      • Illinois State Senate records/schedules(said to be lost)
      
      • Medical records
      
      • Obama/Dunham marriage license
      
      • Obama/Dunham divorce documents
      
      • Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
      
      • Adoption records
      
      • Birth Certificate
      
      So far, no one really knows who this person who calls himself Obama really is.
      
      Anyone see a problem with this?

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         Texasbetaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         This is moronic and brings shame to my country. Sir, you acting like a 10 yr old in this way is ridiculous. The birth certificate? Grow up! You don't have the right to see his college records. It is pathetic.

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            Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            But!  The dems had a right to read through Governor Palin's e-mails?
            
            Hypocrisy, just a tad don't ya think?

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      Texasbetaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The people's questions? Where exact.y are the people's questions being answered? I watched that debate...and nothing at all was learned.

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         Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         The OP asked why Palin will not debate.  Why should she?  Sarah Palin has made no mention of a 2012 run so exactly why should she enter in to a debate at all?
         
         Not really an issue since the Obama administration is self destructing.  "guess those shovel ready jobs were nat as ready as we thought"
         
         Almost 1 trillion dollars and the jobs were not ready. That is not funny and that chuckle will cost Barry dearly.  Do not believe me, time will tell.

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    lovemychrisposted 11 years ago

    Dave_von_Ebers"
    
    "Business as usual: GOP candidates – who think government should stay out of the economy – complain that Obama hasn’t created jobs."
    
    ****
    
    Funny manson---
    
    I don't remember seeing any of those from Bush either.
    Or Clinton.
    Or Bush.
    Or Reagan.
    Or Carter.
    Or anynumberofpresidentswhohavegonebefore
    
    Is this a special Obama thing?
    
    ******
    
    And his governing pretty much answers the questions for me.
    ElBushbo never debated did he?
    Just pre-selected town hall get-togethers.

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       TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Transparency, the most open admin in history, remember that?
       
       Hypocrites, is what the left is.

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          lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry---he needs to be transparent in politics, not his personal life.
          
          You have 0 respect for the 4th amendment..as has been shown with your anti-abortions stance.
          
          But you p*ss and moan about the 2nd.
          
          Presidents aren't property...
          His policy decisions are fair game...private life, no.

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             KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Just go online and google President Bush's transcripts and you'll get them all. Try that with Obama. Don't you even wonder why? If not, then you should.

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                Jeff Berndtposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Ah, suspicion = guilt, but only if you're suspicious of a liberal.

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             TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Regardless of what the Supreme Court says, there is no Right to Abortion. OMG. And another thing is even if there were, it does not negate the right of the fetus to LIFE, the first and most treasured of our RIGHTS.
             
             See how that works? Your Rights do not get to intrude on, or harm another.
             
             It is a simpe concept that the Left ignores.

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                John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                So you're saying that a foetus has more right to life than a mother has?

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                   TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   Most pregnancies do not end in death... so that is a red herring.
                   
                   As far as those that do risk the life of the mother, then it is her and her husbands, or the fathers, choice. And I do mean the husband or father of the child choice also.
                   
                   It is amazing that women throw away babies and the fathers can do nothing about it. He has as much Right to his child as the woman, and that needs to change.
                   
                   If you do not want to get pregnant, then do not have sex, or use birth control. There is no excuse in this day and age to get pregnant when you do not want a child, the world is full of birth control.
                   
                   And no one has the Right to commit murder.

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                      John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                      There is more to life than death!
                      And like it or not there is passion and passion doesn't all ways look to the future.
                      And where does it say that you and I have the right to dictate what a woman does with her body?
                      I thought you conservatives were agin the heavy hand of government dictating what people should and shouldn't do

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             Evan G Rogersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             It's amazing that you get "abortions are ok" from the 4th amendment.

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                KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                amazing and disgusting...

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    Druid Dudeposted 11 years ago

    Because...Bush isn't Prez anymore, and it is irrelevant. Besides, how do you know that's all? Because "they" told you so? That's a good one!

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    lovemychrisposted 11 years ago

    Allright...the 2 of you tell me where in the Constitution it says you have the right to force me to give birth against my will.
    Where does it give you the right to make decisions involving my private life...which is none of your business?
    
    And where is my right to privacy? Gone, as soon as I have sex?

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       Evan G Rogersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       "show me where in the constitution it says that"
       
       IT DOESN'T!!! That's the point!!!
       
       It's not a constitutional matter!!!
       
       It's a state issue!!

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       KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Even so, if you don't want to be 'forced to give birth against your will', then use some protection and don't get pregnant. Who doesn't know that? Maybe school children who are having sex at the age of 12, but you know better, as do most of those having abortions.
       
       It's disgusting to use a medical procedure to reverse a 'condition' that you could have avoided by using your brain.

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          John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          No form of contraception is 100% effective.

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    lovemychrisposted 11 years ago

    "And no one has the Right to commit murder."
    
    Then why do you own a gun?

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       TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Self defense. And that is not murder. There is a difference between killing and murder, ask a lawyer. You can kill someone and not be guilty of murder in the least, and then you can commit murder. Even the commandment specifies murder, not killing.
       
       And your right to privacy is gone thanx to Obama... see the new FBI rules, and the Patriot act ole Joe Biden claims he wrote.
       
       And the Constitution does not talk about Pregnancy... but it does protect the Right to Life, and that could be viewed as saying NO to abortion.
       
       Simple huh?

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    RodEcclesposted 11 years ago

    The main point is this: you don't have a right to end a human life and sorry but the baby growing in your belly is a human life.  Now with that said, I am willing to "compromise" by going with medical science.  Medical Science says a person is dead when there is no brain activity...thus you are brain dead.  So with that, would it not be logical to conclude that if there is brain activity, then you are an alive human?  With that said, there is brain activity in a "fetus" within the end part of the first trimester.  So as for the Constitution, it says all humans (paraphrasing) have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.  Aborting a brain active child is murder and what do we do with murderers?  We deprive them of their rights by putting them in jail.  "nuff said.

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       John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy by the removal or expulsion of a foetus or embryo from the uterus before the fetus is viable.
       
       And what about spontaneous abortion would you ban that too? If not, why not?

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          TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          An enchoate fetus is of just as much value, and is alive, just as a fully formed fetus. Life begins at conception. As for the rest of your ?... C'mon.
          
          Now I am out for a while. if you want to post a ? I will answer it later.

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    Stump Parrishposted 11 years ago

    President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.
    
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/artic … s_of_laws/
    
    President Obama Releases Birth Certificate to End Birther 'Silliness'
    
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-bi … d=13467977
    
    TM. do you have the same problem with Bush's signing statements? I can see how you would have a problem keeping some information private and not have a problem with a president placing himself above the law. Must be some of that medicine and the loopiness you mentioned at work here, huh?
    
    You mentioned Obama's birth certificate, it appears you need to update what ever you are copying and pasting from.
    
    I also feel there is a difference in not releasing records and delibrately changing official government forms, ie Bush's service record and those he served with while awol from the Guard.

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       TMMasonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I told you Bush and his ilk are the treaonous Progressives, Stump. That should speak for itself. I keep explaining to all, there are Socialists, Liberals, Democrats, Progressives, Conservatives, and Libertarians. I am a Conservative.
       
       And those Nat guard Records you mention were shown to be forged. Whats his face looked like an idiot and lost his respectability and credibility for his actins in propagating them. It appears you need an update.
       
       And I don't care about his BC... but it was in his executive order, therefore I mentioned it.

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       Evan G Rogersposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Signing statements and line-item vetoes are a testament to tyranny in our government.
       
       Just a reminder for those who have forgotten how our federal government was set up:
       
       Article 1 Section 1: "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."
       
       Thus legislation from the Supreme Court is illegal, and so is legislation from the Executive branch.

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          KK Trainorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Well said!

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    awareposted 11 years ago

    Piper Palin  2020.
    i think debates this early are white noise , wasted money,and to soon.
    ray

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