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Political/Ideological/Religious Forums

  1. steveamy profile image60
    steveamyposted 5 years ago

    Are Political/Ideological/Religious Forums just pointless rants or do they actually change hearts and minds?

    1. steveamy profile image60
      steveamyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      To me they seem a distraction from what the goal -- or at least -- my goal is here.  Yes, they can be seductive we all love a good argument but not really why I am here.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I agree with you totally.  This is a writers' platform and there are so few forums that have anything to do with writing except for the sandpit, which is usually some inane word or name or number game.  There are plenty of religious and political platforms out there if people want to get involved with masters of that sort of thing.  Here, they're just bullies and instigators.

        1. vmartinezwilson profile image83
          vmartinezwilsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Well, the funny thing about writing is that it is an all inclusive format.  My specialty is film, so I write about that and hope people enjoy it.  I enjoy reading about film, but also about politics, because that was my minor.  If this place was entirely about writing it wouldn't have the same draw, 

          There are some that come across as bullies, but I've chosen to ignore them and instead discuss matters with people who may disagree, but who also can be civil about it.  So, far it's worked for me.  Although I admit I haven't been here for that long.

          One more thing, as a screenplay writer, I couldn't come up with half the ideas that some people spout off here.  I really appreciate the different perspective because it can bring complexity to what would have been a one dimensional character or narrative.

    2. Quilligrapher profile image90
      Quilligrapherposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      This thread should be banned for being a calm and intellectual discussion!

      1. Captain Redbeard profile image60
        Captain Redbeardposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        haha

    3. psycheskinner profile image80
      psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes.
      No.

    4. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Many people are going to tell you that no one is going to change their mind about the beliefs which they already solidified. However, I have more in-depth knowledge which works to my advantage, which I am not about to reveal and it reinforces my actions on the forums.

      With that said, do try to stay out of trouble. lol

    5. livelonger profile image89
      livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I would say it's not one or the other, but a mixture. I've had some really wonderful, enlightening conversations in the religion forum; I just ignore the angry proselytizers of either variety.

      In the politics forums, there are a couple of conservatives that I respect and can have a conversation with, but they're relatively few (sadly), so I've spent less time there.

  2. AshtonFirefly profile image83
    AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago

    I think forums on this website very rarely change people's minds, as in a complete turnaround.
    For those who approach the forums with the object to learn, they will learn. About themselves and others, and possibly even more about the subject about which they debate.
    For those who approach the forums with the intent of forcing their ideas down everyone's throats, they learn nothing and contribute nothing.
    I have learned a lot from these forums. It has not changed my mind about anything; but it has given me a broader perspective on some things, as well as given me some insight about the psychology of the human mind and behaviorism during debate.
    I find it useful. But that's just me.

    1. steveamy profile image60
      steveamyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      It seems to me that it is reasonable to participate because it might drive some traffic to your Hubs.

      1. AshtonFirefly profile image83
        AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I don't really care about traffic. I like to discuss with people. If they wanna read my hubs, then that's fine lol. But either way, it's not a big deal to me.

  3. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    To rant? Or not to rant? That is the question.

    1. steveamy profile image60
      steveamyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      whether it nobler, in the minds of men,  to endure the slings and arrows of moronic ideologues........

  4. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    It stimulates me to new ideas and thus I learn.

  5. steveamy profile image60
    steveamyposted 5 years ago

    well spoken ... perhaps it  will shine as beacon of reason ........... nah!!!! unlikely.

    1. Quilligrapher profile image90
      Quilligrapherposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      A typical day on the Religious Forum
      http://s4.hubimg.com/u/2519039_f248.jpg

  6. Captain Redbeard profile image60
    Captain Redbeardposted 5 years ago

    I can say that I have learned alot. Some about evolution, Judaism, Athisim and just how ugly people can be to complete strangers because they have a computer screen between themselves and another. I love Hubpages! This is almost a second home to me. I don't know that I have one enemy here despite what others might think. I love hearing everyones ideas....even if their just trying to get me upset,  which I just learned is called "trolling" lol I learned this because someone said I was doing that so I withdrew from the conversation.

    1. vmartinezwilson profile image83
      vmartinezwilsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I stopped posting in forums for a bit there because someone started 'online yelling' at me.  I was told not to take it too seriously and have absorbed that advice  I state my opinions and have been open to others.  That's all I can do.

      1. Captain Redbeard profile image60
        Captain Redbeardposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Tis all can any of us do. Gar, these waters be trol'sm at times aye but they be worth the storms!

  7. gmwilliams profile image83
    gmwilliamsposted 5 years ago

    Neither.  These forums allow all to participate and voice their opinions which are parts of discourses in a democratic and open society.   Thank God for these forums.  Participate and disagree to your heart's content but be civil and adult about it.

  8. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    http://images.sciencedaily.com/2009/10/091031002319-large.jpg

    1. AshtonFirefly profile image83
      AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      haha. that's what it feels like most times

      1. paradigmsearch profile image85
        paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        A perfect avatar for certain forums...

    2. Captain Redbeard profile image60
      Captain Redbeardposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      How'd you get that pic of me? Certainly this is after my redbeard went white  but thur I be non the less. Gyarrrrr

  9. HattieMattieMae profile image72
    HattieMattieMaeposted 5 years ago

    Think they rants and don't do nothing, cause they all have to be right! lol Ugly place to be in those forums! always leaves a bad taste in my mouth! smile

  10. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    HP forums! The gift that keeps on giving. big_smile

  11. steveamy profile image60
    steveamyposted 5 years ago

    As I said earlier I try to avoid the distraction but some of the ideological lunacy makes it difficult to not wade into the morass occasionally.....

  12. paradigmsearch profile image85
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    Oh, good. I just discovered a quote and then this thread comes along. big_smile

    "Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die." - Malachy McCourt

    1. steveamy profile image60
      steveamyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      well spoken.....

  13. vmartinezwilson profile image83
    vmartinezwilsonposted 5 years ago

    That's beautiful...and very apt in these forums.

  14. profile image57
    johnvespucciposted 5 years ago

    That is a quote to live by

  15. Eric Newland profile image59
    Eric Newlandposted 5 years ago

    Such forums help to show me what all humanity has in common: stupidity. It knows no political, religious, or ideological boundaries. Quite frankly, it even transcends intelligence levels.

    My unintentional modus operandi around here has been to get mad at a debate thread, compose an eloquent and scathing reply, take a deep breath, look at it again, wonder what's the point, close the tab, and get on with my life.

    1. Captain Redbeard profile image60
      Captain Redbeardposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lol a wiser man than 99% of those who are a member of the Hubpage community sir

    2. profile image0
      Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      A wiser man possibly but what's the fun in that. Getting the blood pressure up of some people can be more than a little humorous.

  16. thebigbagblog profile image60
    thebigbagblogposted 5 years ago

    That's a good question..."I don't know" ;-) (Plato would be proud! lol)

  17. maxoxam41 profile image77
    maxoxam41posted 5 years ago

    Pointless rants based upon no rationality. And when you make a point hubpages makes you understand that it would harm sensitive souls.

  18. maxoxam41 profile image77
    maxoxam41posted 5 years ago

    And who are those sensitive souls? You. But who are they to judge you, us? Do we need baby-sitters to tell us what is politically correct?

 
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