Is there any chance at all of a brokered convention?Can a new candidate jump in now, this late in the race?Will any of these events if they were to occur spell defeat for the Republican party?Is a debacle brewing in the GOP?
Can't see Obama taking a fall against any of the Republican candidates.
This video sums up Obama's economy pretty well - http://video.foxnews.com/v/141177680900 … t_id=87485
- how can any of the four not beat him?
because they are flawed candidates,they are weak candidates, in the end it will come down to the economy , if the economy keeps moving in the right direction as it is now he will be reelected if the economy gets worse he will lose, if the candidate for example was someone like christie or mitch daniels then the economy would not be the sole deciding issue but these r candidates their only hope is a crappy economy.
If you think the economy is moving in the right direction now you need a reality check. There is not enough time for the economy to save him by elections - it s too far gone and he still insists on policies that are hurting the economy - like vetoing the keystone pipeline - who in their right mind would vote for this guy a second time? No one is more "flawed" of a candidate than Obama no matter who he runs against.
if unemployment keeps going down, however slowly, if the economy grows however modestly,if the dow goes up even if not so much these are moves in the right direction and will make it easier for him to get reelected.this is really a weak field of candidates on the republican side .so much so that over half the republican electorate still believe a new candidate can jump into the race.
Not likely. But it's too early to tell. Romney has the best chance.
As an independent who feels that Obama didn't deliver on any promises with the help of a do nothing Congress, I regrettably forecast that unless Ron Paul wins the nomination we will see four more years of stagnation. But if Ron Paul wins the nomination and the jilted Republicans stay home on election day we will still have four more years of the same. And I don't think the American public will tolerate revenge gridlock. If we can't get a different President than it is evident that we will need an independent Congress to get things done. This election may be the starting block for a strong Independent Party.
"As an independent who feels that Obama didn't deliver on any promises"
That's a bit extreme, don't you think? I can think of quite a few. One big one was ending the foolish war in Iraq. Also, beginning to wind down the seemingly endless war in Afghanistan. Nailing Bin Laden. Signing a bankster regulation bill which wasn't perfect but an improvement. Saving GM and Chrysler and upwards of a million jobs. Passing a health care reform bill which has been a goal of every Dem president since Truman. We would be recovered from the great recession by now if it weren't for the Tea Bag House of representatives.
America's best hope is that Obama will be re-elected and the Dems will retain control of the Senate and regain a majority in the House of Representatives. Sadly, this is a long shot.
agree the odds are in favor of the R right now but if the total chaos we see brewing right now continues and with these flawed candidates the R may manage to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"
Ralph I could almost agree with you because evn though Obama has delivered nothing, from day one before anyone gave him a chance.the movement was on to ensure he would be a one term president. The biggest thing that has turned me against a Republican slate is that they were part of a movement that represented keeping the economy down and not letting anything positive happen. It is one thing to hope the president fails and another to work to make him fail. That is not why we pay congressman. In spite of the oppositions victory at the polls you still work for the American people. I would rather see Obama win then to see Gingritch or Mitt at the Helm. Look at me talking like there is difference between parties. No matter who is in there there will continue to be lobbyists and as long as there are lobbyists the wealthy will control all legislation passed or failed. Sorry Ralph I think we are screwed.
Polls show that only 2 repub candidates can beat Obama
Paul and Romney.
I haven't seen a poll where paul can beat obama I don't think paul could even carry the majority of the gop voters let alone get the majority of voters over all.
They only asked Evan.
100% of the folks asked (that's Evan) said they (meaning Evan) think Paul can beat Obama. Basically, Evan thinks that Paul can beat Obama, though I think that he (Evan) thinks it is Obama's uncle from Boston that Paul can beat. I'm not sure that he (Paul) could.
I don't think any of the R's are strong enough to beat Obama, even though even D's are disappointed with him. I thought Paul did well for himself, and was actually kind of cute--he seemed so surprised he did well. At least he has a mind of his own. Gingrich is such a jerk, I thought he was washed up in the 1980's. Romney keeps talking about money in ways that show how rich and out of touch with the way real people live. Now he said he makes "a little extra money" on speaking engagements. $400K is 'a little extra money?" for who? Santorum surprised me by being more intelligent than I thought--you have to watch those geeks. Obama is acting like he isnt worried, examples, his Happy 90th B-day wished to Betty White, disbelief she looks so good, and request for her long form BC. I loved it. Then he sang a few words of an Al Green song. Sean Hannity will have a heart attack now ranting about how Obama can smile or have any levity in his life while the country is going down the tubes. Many areas have had slight improvements during Obama's administration, and I don't understand why he doesn't get the word out more through someone else if he won't do it. It should be interesting.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHhhahahahHAHAHAHh
Oh wait: Facts exist
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 … showdowns/
This is hysterical. 1021 people were polled – about as many people in the average parking lot.
Outstanding.
Unbelievable that we can be so predictable that 1000 can predict almost to the exact number of who can win!
So, you're saying that if I quote a source, then I should be embarrassed when you have nothing to back up your argument
not a good argument...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 … showdowns/
He's tied with Obama - give or take a statistical error.
The media needs to realize that they can't keep saying he can't win.
"Whoa! We've been ignoring him nonstop for 4 years and he's still tied with Obama, he could actually win if we bothered to take him seriously!"
I don't think there's a chance in the world he can be the republican nominee , I would never vote for him because of his position on immigration, but one thing should be recognized about Ron Paul, he is the most honest, most principled ,and closest to an average citizen to seek the presidency at least in my lifetime,that said, this doesn't mean he would make a good president.
What's wrong with his position on immigration?
"Make it easier to become a citizen but make sure that people don't come in illegally"
I really don't understand what's wrong with that
what's wrong with that is that his view is that the 12 million people who are here as illegal aliens should be either deported or their lives should be made so unbearable that they will leave themselves.I have been an illegal alien,and believe you me the reality of the immigrant situation has nothing absolutely nothing to do with the portrayal given by the right wing nut talking heads.It is a reality of hard work,absolutely no benefits,no work no food,keeping a pristine record,paying lawyers to remain in this country,(any illegal alien could be picked up and deported if the government wanted to I was illegal for many years but I was never in hiding immigration always knew where i lived)and when you finally have a cause to apply for permanent residence you pay thousands of dollars in legal fees and government fees all of your own pocket because there's no assistance of course if you are illegal and first you get a temporary permit to be able to work and after one or two years you become a permanent resident if you have kept a pristine record, after that you have to be resident for five years also maintaining an exemplary record in every aspect in order to be able to apply for citizenship.you cannot imagine how it feels knowing what anybody who has been illegal knows to hear these ignorant bigots and xenophobes say that the illegals are bankrupting this country and are a bunch of parasites and leaches.
Not trying to be mean or bigoted. From the moment you entered my country illegally you had no rights and faced deportation. If somone can show me how and why the laws of this land should be ignored because someone chose to leave their country and jump in front of others who were following the laws and procedure of my country I will change my position. In the meantime I can't help but feel that anyone choosing to enter this country illegally has no rio
ghts and should face immediate deportation and sent back to get in line behind those who chose the right way to enter my country.
Well first off entering the country legally is quite a nut to crack secondly, the illegals are the only thing keeping the southern economies alive all the harvesting and most farm work is done by them) and thirdly why I dont wish to see them punished is I would do the same thing, if I was born in Mexico, in a ghetto spending my nights lying on the ground so the cartels bullets won't kill me by accident then I would leave as soon as I could and if I was doing it to protect my children from that hell then you can bet nothing would stop me until I was dead. America has so much and Mexico so little I think some sharing is not in any way amoral.
Does that mean that people who live in Americas worst ghettos can come into your neighborhood and take over homes and encourage others from their old neighborhoods to come into your neighborhood and move into any empty home they may see because bullits are flying in their neighborhood. Look I feel soryy forpeople from other countries not just Mexico who are living under adverse conditions. But submitting our country to adverse conditions does not solve the problems of other countries and we do not have room for all the people in the world who are living in poorly run countries. There is no adequate excuses for allowing our laws to be broken. It is imperative that laws for immigration be enforced. We need to know what type of individuals are entering our society. We must protect our population from diseases endemic to other countries. We can't import street gangs from other countries and we can't let drug cartels infiltrate our nation making drug trafficing easier. When do our hearts go out to the American citizens? When do we take up the cause of our children. The bottom line is we have laws and if the are too stringent (which I don't believe they are), then we can change them to facilitate LEGAL IMMIGRATION.
"But submitting our country to adverse conditions"
What adverse conditions do you have in mind?
Well I will start with the hospitals that went bankrupt in California and Texas. And then there are the gangs that eminated form the illegal immigrant population Which spawns a multitude of illegal behavior. Anoher criminal market would be false indetification or identity theft. Driving down wages doesn't help the legal population. I feel ridiculous exlainig this. This should be quite evident. This like explainig to a grown up why you don't walk into your home with dog poop on your shoes.
Because it's neither practical nor fair to try to deport 12 million law-abiding undocumented immigrants, often splitting up families in the process. Think about it!
Too bad you weren't around to tell the illegals to "think about it" before they tried to steal citizenship in the U.S.. Maybe you could have warned them that there could come a day when u get caught and deproted as well as the ramifications of splitting up the family. It might not be practical to think u can send 12 million people back but it is still worth the effort. We all ready gave amnesty under REAGAN AND NOW WE ARE STILL HAVING TO DEAL WITH 12 TO 20 MILLION ILLEGALS. HOW PRACTICAL IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE 10% UNEMPLOYMENT. I may sound cold hearted but right is right and wrong is wrong and wrong should NEVER be rewarded.
All I can say to people like you is I feel sorry for you, for all the hate that's in your heart, and I would also like to thank you because it is mostly because of people like you that today much more than in the past every hispanic person that has the opportunity is becoming a citizen as soon as they can when in the past people used to remain permanent resident for much longer but since you put the fear of god (deportation,discrimination, etc...)into us as soon as we are legal permanent residents for five years we are in line at immigration to become citizens so maybe you are helping us even without wanting to.
Man I see where you are coming for using the word hate and then following with Hispanic. Hispanics are not the only nationality coming into this country legally and illegaly. See you are so in denial about breaKING OUR LAWS THAT YOU JUMP RIGHT IN WITH THE WORD HATE.I DON'T HATE ANYONE. I JUST HAPPEN TO LOVE MY FELLOW AMERICANS AND FEEL WE DESERVE TO HAVE OUR LAWS RESPECTED FROM PEOPLE FROM OTHER "COUNTRIES". YOU SEEM TO BE LOCKED IN ON THE ILLEGAL HISPANICS. IGUESS YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT OTHER NATIONALITIES. IN M Y COUNTRY WE GO TO JAIL WHEN WE BREAK THE LAW. WHEN YOU CROSSED OUR BORDERS ILLEGALLY YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND PUT IN JAIL. IF YOU WERE DISCOVERED THREE YEARS AFTER YOU GOT HERE YOU SHOULD GO TO JAIL. JUST LIKE I WOULD HAVE TO DO IF I WERE CAUGHT THREE YEARS AFTER ROBBING A BANK. America also has traffic laws that are broken on a daily basis by illegals. Illegals drive without a lisence or insurance. Something that I would be penalized severely for. Again, I find myself trying to teach commonsense. The key word here is ILLEGAL in a country of LAWS. That is all that needs tobe siad. Hate does not enter the debate except for the fact that there in arguement for braking the law. So when ILLEGALS are faced with thier crimes they want to claim they are being hated. If you come into America following the immigration laws I have no problem God bless you hop aboard as a matter of fact I am glad someone else didn't beat you here illegally.
sorry to upset you ,but whether you like it or not I'm a citizen just like you and my vote counts just like yours and the point I was trying to make is that thanks to people like you a lot more of people like me are becoming citizens and voting and deciding elections so in a way we should thank you for your encouragement and motivating us to be better citizens and make sure we do vote in every election to make sure the party of the bigots, zealots and xenophobes don't win elections.
I assume you are talking about the Republican Party. I am not a Republican I am an Idepewndent. I have no established party. I get grief by borh sides. It doesn't bother me. The only problem I have with your citizenship is that you jumped in front of someone who didn't violate our borders, instead they stayed home and waited their turn but got beat out by you because you stole your way in. We went down the amnesty road with Reagan and should have never been faced with this problem again. The job market in America should be open only to those who can prove they are American citizens. As soon as we deport illegals or force them back to where they came from. The sooner the people who chose to patiently await the immigration process can take their rightful place in our society. I don't hate anyone. It is not hateful to support justice. I spent two years in the military and fought for fredom and justice. I have a right to speak to injustice and a right to expect my government to stop people from stealing citizenship in America. Because this country decided to overlook the fact that you broke our laws to get here should make you want help establish rules that will help the person thaat you and others jumped in front of.mm Doesn't it bother you that you jumped line and broke our laws and robbed a deserving person who followed the law from being a citizen in our country.
The Vegas odds strongly favor Obama. Place your bet and you'll get a big payoff, Evan.
Well, right now you'd have to wager MORE than a hundred bucks to win a hundred that way.. not that those Vegas bookies know anything, of course..
He doesn't have any serious opposition. The R's are scraping the barrel. People may not have voted in the mid-terms, but they'll vote when they think about what they might end up with. They'd be stupid not to. Look at the Uk, right wing economic policy leads to contraction of the economy, not growth. History should teach the US voters this anyway. Oh yeah, I forgot, that Cinton left the economy in a terrible state, didn't he?
the way i see it it's a fifty fifty chance, either he will be reelected or not,maybe i should bet on the republiclown candidate that way if I lose the future at least i win a couple of dollars.
He'll be re-elected with a surprising majority. Gut feeling, usually correct.
from your mouth to god's ears,because the R candidates are demonstrating on every chance they get how much they don't care for anybody except for the millionaires ,billionaires and zillionaires.
Yes, which is sad. Big money and big lies.
The best hope for the R party is a deadlocked convention. The compromise candidate could be Christie or J. Bush or ??
In the smoke filled room, everything's on the table, including the possibility of choosing a viable candidate to run against Ob.
Failing a deadlock in Tampa, look for term#2 for Barack, in a landslide.
(But then again, I also picked Green Bay to win it all).
YOUR ANALYSIS IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY ,I think the best the republicans can hope for at this point is a brokered convention where they can chose the best candidate to oppose Obama, the problem is that it is very unlikely that this could be achieved.
Perhaps we should return to the smoke filled room. I think we got better candidates that way than currently when the early GOP primaries give too much influence to passionate social conservatives and anti-government right wingers.
They should go waaaaaay out of the limb and nominate Snoop Dogg.
Can you imaging the press that would get?
Agreed Ralph.
The smoke filled room might not be ideal, but neither is having a few small early primary states decide who the nominee will be -- while the other 90-odd per cent of the population often don't have their say until the nomination is a done deal.
Since Iowa, New Hampshire and S. Carolina tend toward a conservative bent, the conservative candidates look like world beaters and often ride that wave to the nomination.
Ron Paul is the only guy worth voting for and the only person that can stand on the stage with Obama.
I think the only way for Obama to lose to the Republicans is for the economy to sink a great deal more than it is right now. This is a Republican group that fails to inspire and, even if they were to win, there will be no change. Politicians are politicians irregardless of party affiliation. None of them have the ability to initiate true change.
I was going to say that one of the current GOP candidates could pull off a win against Obama if they choose their VP candidate strategically.
But then I remembered the GOP pulled that same strategy in 2008 and it backfired.
Having said that, Mrs. Palin is uncharacteristically silent right now.
Still, I wouldn't underestimate the power of a Christie, Rubio or J Bush as Veep.
If the economy continues to gain steam, however, it's a done deal for an Obama second term.
of the three candidates you mention only rubio is vp material neither christie or j bush would be vp to any of these clowns.they have higher aspirations.and serving as vp to any one of these would put an end to their careers.
Time to put those brakes on just a bit.
People seem to not look at the entire picture.
News came out: Employment rate drops. Whoa now, easy does it, yes, they are down, but WHY are they down? We read day in and day out about big time store chains closing, which means more jobs LOST.
the employment rate dropped because, more people have now drawn out all their unemployment benefits.
Just a thought.
The employment rate also does not also take into account the number of people who are also retiring...
these factors were also present before when the unemployment rate was heading up so if now it is heading down it is heading downand if it drops below eight percent by the time the elections roll around it is very unlikely any of these flawed candidates will defeat obama, if it happens to be around 9 percent it's almost sure obama will lose.
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