The Democratic Party Is U.S. Blacks' Worst Enemy

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  1. feenix profile image58
    feenixposted 12 years ago

    Yes, the Democratic Party is U.S. blacks' worst enemy, and that is true because I have seen all the damage that party has done to black people with my own eyes.

    In fact, that party has inflicted more damage on U.S. black society than the whites who enslaved its forebears ever did.

    That is true because ever since the mid-1960s, the Democratic Party has been carrying out a vast campaign to brainwash or psychologically condition a great many blacks to regard themselves as inferior, and to be profoundly and hopelessly dependent on government handouts and the goodwill of white-dominated factions.

    Additionally, that party's agenda has served to encourage huge numbers of black males and females to abandon their children, have thousands-upon-thousands of babies out of wedlock, and to be career criminals.

    Worst of all, the Democratic Party has long supported a "platform" that has caused the killing of millions of blacks before they were even born.

    What it all comes down to is, blacks have no business supporting Barack Hussein Obama and his Democratic Party.

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    1. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      utter nonsense.

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        Gusserposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Now THAT proves everything. NOT

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      2. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        What is utter nonsense is your passing judgement on what I have to say. You did not participate in the "black struggle" of the 1960s and 1970s, but I did.

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        1. Paul Wingert profile image59
          Paul Wingertposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          So what you’re saying is that every single Black American out there does not support President Obama or the Democrat Party? I agree with Josak. You know there's other TV and talk radio shows (with actual credibility) FOX Noise....opps! I meant FOX News on TV and that loudmouth clown, Limbaugh. Besides, the "black struggle" of the 1960s and 1970s was over 40 years ago. We went on to other issues since then.

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Obviously, you are unaware of what the "black struggle of the 1950s and 1960s" is. That was the beginning of what is happening in the U.S. today, so far as race relations are concerned.

            You see, prior to the 1950s -- and opposite of what is the case today -- when blacks got used, abused, neglected, ignored and ripped off, they usually had no other choice but to accept it.

            Also, where did I say that every single black in the U.S. does not support Obama and the Democrat Party. Even though I wish that were the case, nowhere in this forum have I said such a thing, and that is because that is far from the truth.

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            1. TomBlalock profile image68
              TomBlalockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Tell me, Feenix. Have you read Clotel? Narrative in the Life...? Have you read aloud the words of "The Meaning of the Fourth of July to the Negro," by Frederick Douglass? Have you read the works of what came after? The Guilded Six Bits? I have. I've read them, and I've taken the to heart. Then I read more. The narratives of those who truly lived through the times you so casually bring forth to evoke reasons why your opinion surpasses others in quality and breadth.

              You may have lived through the "Black Struggle" but I am a byproduct of it. I had the privilege of growing up with Whites, Blacks, Mexican's, and Asians, and I experienced the good and the bad of all of those. You may think your opinion is the end all and be all, but living through something does not lend godlike expertise on a subject, nor does it make your opinion correct.

              Far from it, I find your opinion to be egocentric, flawed, and absolutist to a degree that disgusts me, exacerbated further still by your implication that others here cannot possible be correct based off of the sole criteria that they did not live the life you did. I may not agree with very many people, but I have the reasoning capacity, logic, and intelligence, to safely say that enlightenment about either party, where it can be found, will not be found in your words.

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              1. feenix profile image58
                feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Well, Tom, I guess you won't be joining Feenix's Official HubPages Fan Club.

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                1. Paul Wingert profile image59
                  Paul Wingertposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm aware of the struggles of what the blacks went through in this country to be accepted as equals. No thanks to the old Democratic Party who were nothing but a bunch of bigoted, idiots who justified slavery with a few passages out of the Bible, even though the number of slave holders (less than 1% in 1860) in the US . This was the core of the Democratic Party from it's founding during President Jackson's day through the 60's. Pity on the person who wasn’t Angelo Saxon. Even the great (refereed to as great during my father's day) Democratic President FD Roosevelt is frowned upon by modern history because he failed to pass a law against lynching. In 1967, the southeastern states were the last to legalize interracial marriage. The exact same struggle gays and lesbians are going through today. Things have greatly improved for blacks in America since the founding of this country through the 70's. Whether you like him or not, we now have a black president. The GOP was founded in the mid 1800's to abolish slavery while the Democrats were fierce pro slavery. But the both parties did 180 degree turn in the last 40+ years. Things changed again on Sept 11, 2001. The old "fear the black man" became "fear the Muslim". Now these bigoted idiots ignored their hatred towards blacks and focused their BS on Muslims. I don't know about you, but I've meet many Muslims and I don't believe they all have a AK47 and a can of C4 in their closets.

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                  1. feenix profile image58
                    feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    The road to hell is paved with good intentions, as they say.

                    I said that because ever since the mid-1960s, the Democrat Party has been going full throttle to elevate blacks' social and economic status through well-meaning government actions and programs.

                    However, most of those actions and programs have mostly only served to sap large numbers of blacks of the will to be self-sufficient, self-reliant, and self-determined, and to draw them away from taking major self-help measures to do such things as establish more of their own businesses and improve the conditions in their communities.

                    In my opinion, U.S. blacks would be far better off if such factions as government, politicians, "African-American leaders and activists," and "good-hearted white liberals" got the hell out of their way.

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              2. Marquis profile image66
                Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                You are a failed bi product. You should be trying to listen to what he is saying instead of replying back with your own egocentric comments.

                The man is saying that the Democrat Party HAS failed Blacks. Try understanding what is said before you post ignorant words.

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          2. Marquis profile image66
            Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            The only noise I hear is from you.

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      3. Marquis profile image66
        Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Democrats continue to misuse misinformed Black Americans. First the Democrats fight to keep Blacks slaves. Democrats would next make all sorts of laws separating Blacks from Whites after Reconstruction. NOW Democrats play Blacks as major idiots and keep them locked away in ghettoes addicted to race card policies and welfare.

        Democrats are trash.

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        1. American View profile image59
          American Viewposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Did you see the Obama ad targeting blacks called "I got your back" It is shameful

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            Hustl3posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Really???  I would love to see that ad.  Do you have a link to it?  The Man of sin is here...

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            1. American View profile image59
              American Viewposted 12 years agoin reply to this
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              1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
                Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Why is it shameful?  It's true which is more than can be said about the anonymous adds billionaire super paks are putting out for Romney. BTW it apparently wasn't an Obama ad but rather an ad from a black Obama supporter group.

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                1. American View profile image59
                  American Viewposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  " I am Barack Obama and I approved this message" Thought I heard that in the beginning and the end of the commercial. So there are no superpac ads running for Obama? I saw 3 today, maybe they are not running by you yet.

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                  1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
                    Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    OK, I listened to the ad, and I stand corrected. The ad was placed by a black agency that is working for the Obama campaign. However, I don't see what's objectionable about the ad.

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        2. junko profile image76
          junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Republicans continue to misuse misinformed White American. (Tea Party types)

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    2. TomBlalock profile image68
      TomBlalockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well. At least he didn't make statements that grossly overgeneralize the situation to the point that even hyperbole fails to accurately describe the overgeneralization.

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        When it comes to all the damage that the Democrat Party has inflicted on black society since the mid-1960s, it is impossible to overly generalize the situation.

        The Demcrats have laid waste to blacks.

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        1. janesix profile image61
          janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          How, exactly, have Democrats done this?

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I issued a summary of that in the comment that opens this forum.

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            1. janesix profile image61
              janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              You've asserted that they've done these things, but not how they actually did them.

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              1. feenix profile image58
                feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                If you get the time and feel like doing so, read some of my hubs.

                As you may have noticed, I have written more than 130 hubs and many of those writings tell the whole story concerning the ways in which the Democrats and their left-wing socialistic allies have reeked havoc on "Black America."

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              2. janesix profile image61
                janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                I will just have to assume you are making all of this up then.

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                1. feenix profile image58
                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  janesix, whatever you say. But as I stated before, I have already written extensively concerning the ways in which the Democrats and other liberals are laying waste to America's black society.

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                  1. janesix profile image61
                    janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    I took the time to read a few of your hubs. What i read was interesting. While i agree on some of your points( such as government handouts do tend to keep people dependent) what i didnt see was anything about purposeful intent, or agenda. I really dont have time to read all your hubs for that specific information. Can you addess this in the forums, especially sinse you did bring it up in the first place?

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      2. profile image52
        deven8703posted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Not sure why you're so up in arms about this Tom, it seems that the article may have shaken your faith in your party? Perhaps the conservative non racist is only a myth to you? Here is the thing, the conservative person is about self reliance and charity, the liberal about helping through the government. Both have their roots, I believe, in a genuine belief that their idea is morally correct and just. But, I would ask, why is teaching self reliance a bad thing? The article is not articulate, but its point is very correct for the times. I don't like to make the analogy of raising children, but it is very similar. At first you provide and take care of your children when they are incapable, as minorities were when the laws of this land were very much against them. As they grow, you teach them self reliance, you don't let them live in your basement until they're 45.  It is time to stop treating minorities as children, let them grow without an overbearing parent (the democratic party) to guide their every movement.

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    3. Repairguy47 profile image59
      Repairguy47posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Never read truer words.

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      1. Josak profile image60
        Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Is this literally the first thing you have ever read?

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Josak, do you have the courage to ask Repairguy that question to his face?

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          1. TomBlalock profile image68
            TomBlalockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            He might not. I do. I'd say Josak would probably stand and report, on this account, however. I'd love to sit down and have a verbal debate with you, if you ever happen by North Carolina, though, Feenix. I do mean debate, too, not a fight.

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      2. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Repairguy, and the truth is the truth.

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    4. 2besure profile image81
      2besureposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Our whole political party rep and dem, are this countries worst enemy!  They have both sold this nation out for the almighty dollar.  They will walk away wealthy while this countries falls into ruins!   Stop trying to cause division by pointing to one party.  It is not about party.  It it is about greed and adverace, and the hell with the casualties!

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        2besure, that is your opinion, it is not mine.

        You and I have a completely different take on things.

        And I will say it one more time: The Democratic Party is U.S. Blacks' Worst Enemy.

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      2. TomBlalock profile image68
        TomBlalockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Avarice. Also, agreed.

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    5. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      If you know the first thing about black history in America and about who helped the black movement you know the ties that the left shares with that cause, you know that the left was always the first to support the equal rights of black people and that the most influential and forward thinking figures in black history in the US are and were leftists like Langston Hughes, that the first people to support black rights and who did so most vocally were the radical left (perhaps you have forgotten the leftist supporters taking daily beatings on the street supporting the Scottsboro Boys?) or maybe you forgot Eugene Debs who first ran for president on a platform of race equality (for the socialist party no less) the left has always supported the black movement, the left still does. The democrat president is the first black president, the right has never done a thing for the black people and it was always the right who opposed changing the status quo, to try and suggest that the party that (unfortunately) represents the left in America does not represent the best choice for black voters is just you blatantly ignoring the evidence and history to plug your own political views.

      I mentioned the shared history history a lot, (I remember marching for black rights as a leftist during the Vietnam war) but let me give you a glimpse into the modern world just this year polling of GOP primary voters in Tennessee found only 54% think that interracial marriage should be legal, if you really think the right represents your best interests you are deaf, blind and obviously dumb. tongue

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Josak, as I stated before, I am not going to get into a long drawn-out debate with you.

        What it all comes down to is you have your views on the way things were and are, I have my views on the way things were and are -- and there is a very wide divide between the ways in which you and I see things. We will never find common ground. 

        So, please, stop attempting to give me history lessons. I am well aware of the way things went down in the past concerning what is often described as the black struggle.

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      2. TomBlalock profile image68
        TomBlalockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Small correction. The Republican's were pro-abolition. Democrats, pro-slavery. In the modern frame, that statement is true, but taken as absolute, not so much.

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        1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
          Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          But the Republicans changed their tune thanks to Nixon's southern strategy.

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        2. Josak profile image60
          Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Yes but the republican party was once the leftist party in the US. That changed in the 60s and 70s.

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Oh my, where did you study U.S. history? The Republican Party has never been leftist.

            As examples, it was largely the Republicans that fought against such socialistic mandates as the federal income tax (in the early 1900s) and Social Security (in the 1930s).

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            1. TomBlalock profile image68
              TomBlalockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              I agree. The Republicans have been more towards the center, and sometimes to the left, but rarely ever have they been Leftist. They have, in the very early 1900's, during the progressive movement, however, actually had an intelligent policy towards ethics and business, which is an improvement. I actually consider myself a 1904 era progressive Republican, a la Theodore Roosevelt, actually

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      Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi feenix.  I don't think the Democrat Party originally was that way.  But indeed it's apparent (especially with their nomination of Barack Obama in the first place) that they've become something other than a valid political Party.  Obama's a "Progressive" or whatever that means, and the Democrat Party has indeed allowed him to change the Party into something it should've never become.

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        lindaopaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        As you may have noticed, I have written more than 130 hubs and many of those writings tell the whole story concerning the ways in which the Democrats and their left-wing socialistic allies have reeked havoc on "Black America."

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        1. Uninvited Writer profile image77
          Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Which user name did you write those under?

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Well, I don't know about "lindaopa" but to date, I have published more than 130 articles on HubPages and a considerable number of them focus on all of the damage that the Democrat Party and other liberals have inflicted on U.S. blacks, especially during the period of 1955 to the present.

            In fact, I am in the process of putting together a series of hubs in which I will expose all of the counter-productive measures that Barack Obama has taken when it comes to the well-being and advancement of America's black society.

            The truth is, if Obama is re-elected, millions of U.S. blacks will retrogress to a state where they will not be much better off than their enlsaved forebears were.

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    7. Wayne Brown profile image81
      Wayne Brownposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I could not agree more...since the implementation of LBJ's "Great Society" more has been done in the name of uplifting the black race by the left and in the process actually doing just the opposite by creating an entitlement environment.  The Great Society swung open the gates of perpetual dependence on government and it created a generation which taught its children to look in the same direction.  In those instances where the families walked away from the assistance and made it on their own, they outcome was totally opposite and created many fine upstanding citizens who are educated and successful.  The same is happening now with the Hispanic and Latinos all in the name of interest in lifting them up but really more concerned with hanging on to a voting block and creating a central focus on dependence on a large central government. WB

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  2. Cagsil profile image72
    Cagsilposted 12 years ago

    Oh please.

    Both sides of the aisle have done their damage. One is no better than the other.

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You are dead wrong. And I strongly suspect that you are a Democrat, or sympathizer of the Democratic Party, who trying to get them off the hook.

      And because I have been black for nearly 70 years, I know what in the hell I'm talking about.

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      1. Cagsil profile image72
        Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        What a beautiful description you use to describe me.

        Anyone with half of 100 as an IQ would know and have learned by reading my profile, that I am not a Democrat, Republican, Independent sympathizer.

        I am a rights advocate for the average person. The fact that you want to spit on the other side of aisle, puts you in the same boats, as most hypocrites.
        I'm not doubting what you said. I am just pointing out that it is meaningless to pit one side as better than the other.

        If you seriously think politicians in America actually give a damn about the public citizens, then you've only managed to join a specific club's thinking.

        What club? Willful Ignorance.

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You can call me ignorant, you can call me a hypocrite, you can call me a dumb partisan -- just don't call me late for happy hour.

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          1. Cagsil profile image72
            Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not calling you anything. I'm simply pointing out what you seem to be doing and how others are going to perceive it. wink

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            1. feenix profile image58
              feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              You know, I could not care less how other others "perceive" me. I am my "own man" and I am not a member of any particular flock.

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              1. Cagsil profile image72
                Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Then you do whatever cause you stand for a disservice. Good luck going forward.

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                1. feenix profile image58
                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Cagsil, if it makes you feel good to say something like that, have at it.

                  I firmly believe in going along with those who have an uncontrollable need to put down those who have opinions that differ from theirs.

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                  1. Cagsil profile image72
                    Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Have at it? WOW!
                    You see, that's part of your problem. You lead yourself by belief. I wasn't putting down anything you said. I pointed out the irrationality of your actions. If you don't like the truth, then don't makes foolish actions as you have done.

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        2. pagesvoice profile image73
          pagesvoiceposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I agree with you 100% Cagsil. This country has turned into one of hatred with a mentality of (thank you G.W. Bush)  "You're either with us or against us." It literally sours and turns my stomach what the fanatics are doing. People now feel they are educated by listening to the most foul and hate filled media giant going which is none other than FOX NOISE. This network fills the eyes and ears with loathsome, pretend and fantasy land journalism. Rush, Hannity, Beck, O'Really (yes I meant to misspell his name) and the like who spew vile commentary, all in the name of making money for themselves. Yet the ill informed buy into this lunacy and I can not figure it out.  Compromise seems to be a thing of the past with these new found zealots. Tis a shame to say the least because of how they are ruining our country.

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            So, I guess that CNN and the news divisions of ABC, CBS and ABC are the voices of reason.

            And, personally, I stopped playing little games with other people's names way back when I was a teenager. Shortly after I stepped into the real world, I grew up.

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      2. Friendlyword profile image59
        Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        My Brother!
        You are so right and I can't argue with you on this point.
        I can only "basically" quote something one of our great leaders said at a Democratic Convention:
        "Givin the other choices out there to choose from; I'm going to ride this Donkey till I can't ride no more"
                                 Reverend Al Sharpton

        The Democratic Party is the best of two evil for me. I think anybody that wants some sense fairness will choose the Democratic Party.  But, Black people have the right to choose what's best for them just like everybody else.
        All the love in the world to you Brother.

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Personally, whenever Al Sharpton says he is in favor of something, I quickly turn around and run away, towards the nearest exit.

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          1. pagesvoice profile image73
            pagesvoiceposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I do the same with everything Koch, Hannity, Ingrams, Limburger and the like say.

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            1. feenix profile image58
              feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Who is "Limburger?"

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              1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
                Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                He's referring to the big fat idiot on Fox, Rush Limpbaugh (according to the ladies).

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                1. lovemychris profile image81
                  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I feels so sorry for Russsshhhhhhh sad 4 wives and no kids....Obviously they are using birth control, so he only marries sl*ts!

                  Guy with that amount of dough and all he can find are sl*ts?  poor fella.

                  talent on loan from K Mart
                  2 tons tied behind his back

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                  Gusserposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Rush on Fox. How telling. Education isn't your forte.

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                  1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
                    Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    "Rush on Fox"

                    I stand corrected. Rush on "Clear Channel Communications" which features several right wing hacks who also appear also on Fox TV, e.g., Sean Hannity.

                    INTERESTINGLY, Clear Channel was taken private by Bain Capital in 2006, after Romney was no longer associated with Bain.

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                  2. feenix profile image58
                    feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Thank you for bringing that up, Gusser. You beat me to the punch.

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                3. feenix profile image58
                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  And are all the ladies holding up 10's for you?

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          Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Al Sharpton's rhetoric has incited violent mobs all over the place. He is responsible for riots after the Jared longhunter shooting in Arizona, accusing innocent men of rape in the Tawana Brawley hoax, he was tried for fraud and larceny in 1990, he incited a mob in 1991 in Brooklyn's Crown Heights, in 1995 he incited an anti-Jewish pogrom in Harlem, and now he's got a show on MSNBC. What a joke.

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Onusonus, thank you very much for bringing a true voice of reason to this forum.

            And when it comes to Al Sharpton, you hit each of the nails squarely on its head.

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              Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Huah!

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          2. Friendlyword profile image59
            Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Al Sharpton is a Black Civil Rights Leader. Just save your bad breath! Nothing you say is going to change that. You might as well run down the crime sheets of:
            Jesus Christ
            Mother Theresa
            ALL the Popes
            All the Nuns

            None of them never even cross you mind when it come to the actual crimes they committed.

            Al Sharpton most likely saved thousands of black men from being shot dead in City Streets like dogs.  Al Sharptons has tried to bring Justice to the families that have had their Black Children shot dead in the streets.

            I see this type of forum pop up every four years like clock work. Why be so stupid as to think that Black people can lead around by anybody.

            Especially the likes of you useless no where men.

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              Gusserposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Your statement implies blacks are lead around by Sharpton. OOPSY

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              1. Friendlyword profile image59
                Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                If you haven't notice.
                I say what I mean, you don't have to guess what I say.  Good luck with trying to twist the next guys' words.

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                  Gusserposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  So Sharpton leads you around. Got it.

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                  1. Friendlyword profile image59
                    Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    So this is what a creepy stalker troll does!

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            2. feenix profile image58
              feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Friendlyword, I just read your profile, and that told me everything I needed to know concerning why you are such a fan of Al Sharpton.

              That said, a great many blacks in New York City are some of the most backwards blacks in the country. They tend to be trapped in a 1950s-to-1970s time warp.

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              1. Friendlyword profile image59
                Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                yessah boss:lol:

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                1. feenix profile image58
                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  You might think it's amusing, but that is just about the way that a large number of blacks in NYC come off.

                  There are enough tap-dancing black lackeys in this town to put on the biggest minstrel show in history.

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            3. TomBlalock profile image68
              TomBlalockposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Lol. Jesus committed a crime. Not even going to go into that one, just going to chuckle.

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            4. Mitch Alan profile image80
              Mitch Alanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Friendlyword, Can give a specific instance where Mr. Sharpton has actual DONE anything that has saved or positively changed lives? Be specific...

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                Reingoldaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                I can only assume that everytime Al Sharpton lead a march or protest he made one or two officers think twice before they shot somebody.  I think he inspired thousand of young men to get out of the streets and back into school. I can't give you specifics but my common sense tells me Al Sharpton helped more people we could ever count.  He can talk loud and "stir up alot of trouble" but in the end he is a man of action that helped alot of people.

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                1. feenix profile image58
                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  With all due respect, Al Sharpton has not accomplished a thing so far as "helping a lot of people."

                  About the only thing that jive-talkin', poor-old-broken-down backwoods preacher has done is influence large numbers of blacks to regard themselves as "victims" and to think like slaves.

                  In fact, Sharpton is seriously afflicted with a malady that I call the Plantation Syndrome. He believes that the only time blacks are well off is when whites are treating them with kindness, compassion and tolerance. And he also believes that blacks' well-being is entirely contingent on whites cutting them a little slack and giving them pats on the tops of their heads.

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            lindaopaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Did you see the Obama ad targeting blacks called "I got your back" It is shameful

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  3. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

    Both parties are bad for everyone except the rich.

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Obviously, you have been thoroughly brainwashed by the leftist-dominated news media and "academic community" to believe that "they're all crooks."

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  4. chipsball profile image61
    chipsballposted 12 years ago

    Utter Nonsense!

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What is utter nonsense is you are obviously as blind as one can be.

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    2. junko profile image76
      junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Republican-Tea Party Hogwash..., utter non-sense!. If you had nothing to say, you should have not posted anything.

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Yo, if I had nothing worthy to say, why did you even bother to respond to this "dumb" forum topic?

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      2. Ralph Deeds profile image66
        Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Black separatist crapola.

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Deeds, obviously you are unaware of what a black separatist is.

          I am far from being one of those, and that is because I am not some "black militant" who believes that blacks should separate themselves from the U.S. and form their own nation.

          And besides, black separatist is old-school lingo. That term is as outdated as bell-bottom pants, daishikis and platform shoes.

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      3. Marquis profile image66
        Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        We see nothing from you but utter nonsense.

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  5. liftandsoar profile image61
    liftandsoarposted 12 years ago

    Yes, both parties have failed in many ways.  That's always the comeback when a charged is raised against anyone.  If my wife tells me I forgot to lock the door, my first thought is to find something she forgot. Human nature.  It's multiplied over and over again when a whole party does it.  Without exonerating the Republicans for their wrongs, I agree fully with your assessment of the Democratic Party's affect on not only African Americans but all minorities.  Since whites are now a minority, where do I go for my handout?  Forget that last thing.

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    1. Cagsil profile image72
      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Whites a minority in America? Not quite yet. But, then again, it shouldn't matter anyways.

      Being part of the "minority" or "majority" is based on what exactly you are talking about to begin with. I could be part of the minority who is living in poverty, but I could also be seen in the majority of those who are wise(this coming from other people, not me thinking it myself).

      I could be part of the "minority" because I approve Gay/Lesbian marriage, but I could also be part of the "majority" because I approve Gay/Lesbian marriage.

      Statistics are not reliable with regards to America's public opinion. Polls, surveys and many questions asked by other people of citizens, are manipulated or twisted to mean a specific thing. The context of the questions asked are not asked of the actual majority of citizens. It's only about a sampling of citizens.

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Cagsil, what you wrote about statistics and polls is so true. The questions and other queries posed can be twisted in manners that will provide whatever responses and findings that are desired.

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        1. Marquis profile image66
          Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Yes feenix, for example, these polls conducted by MSNBC and CNN.
          I have notice that when MSNBC conducts a poll, most of the respondents are for Obama in the 70% range no matter what.

          On job approval, it is nearly 65%. Now we look at other polls, it is barely above 45%.

          We both know that MSNBC is filled with Leftist blockheads. But something is rather fishy about what they present as "Most Americans."

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    2. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      All of the news flying around about whites being in the minority, or that they are on the verge of becoming the minority, is not true at all.

      That is nothing but left-wing propaganda that is being spewed for the purpose of igniting widespread panic and causing the nation to become even more divided than it already is.

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  6. feenix profile image58
    feenixposted 12 years ago

    Just to set things straight, this forum is not about the Republicans. It is about the Democrats.

    Discussing the defects and shortcomings of the Republican Party is another topic and another forum.

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    1. Mitch Alan profile image80
      Mitch Alanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Feenix, love the dialog (except for those that, lacking either facts or intellect, resort to personal attacks)
      But, I think the lines should be drawn between Liberal and Conservative rather than between parties...ideology vs. party.

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Mitch, you are exactly right. What it all boils down to is an epic battle between conservatives and liberals, or the good versus the bad and the ugly.

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  7. chipsball profile image61
    chipsballposted 12 years ago

    Feenix...you know this thread you started is utter non-sense designed to draw attention. It's one thing to have conservative views that draw legitimate debate on the true substance of those issues...but this rant by you is...NON-SENSE...and you know this!

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      chipsball, I can't help it. I was born and raised in Hollywood, so show business is in my blood.

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      1. chipsball profile image61
        chipsballposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        That's obvious...you are good at it! There is a reason why Blacks support the Demo Party...issues and policy...like all voters. You know this as well. Cain, West and Feenix need to stop playing the race card to curry favor and acceptance for personal and political gain.

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Hey, don't lump me with Cain and West. They're Southern boys and I'm a Northerner.

          Moreover, placing me in the same category as two other black conservatives is a gross generalization. Due to the fact that I am a conservative and deeply opposed to the Democrat Party, why didn't you compare me to the likes of Gingrich, Santorum and Palin?

          Or, are you one of those blacks who believes that those of us who think differently from most other blacks are Uncle Toms and "sellouts?"

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          1. chipsball profile image61
            chipsballposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            These debates in the black community have been going on since Dubois, Washington and Douglass offered different approaches to black survival in the U.S...and you know this.

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            1. feenix profile image58
              feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              I certainly am aware of that, and if blacks had followed the course layed out by Booker T. Washington, their society would be far better off than it is today.

              W.E.B. DuBois was nothing but a black front man for all the white communists who hung out in Cooper Union, NYC.

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              1. chipsball profile image61
                chipsballposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Feenix are you generally this far out in your expressions about black people that you must ridicule your own folk to advance your acceptance. Do you have a problem being Black folk? It's interesting that you chose the term " their society"...just saying?

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                1. feenix profile image58
                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, I wrote "their society," and the reason why is, that is what is taught in Writing 101. A skilled and professional writer always detaches himself/herself from the subject at hand.

                  And so far as your implication that I hate myself for being black, that does NOT EVEN move me. I've heard it all before, and will continue to hear it.

                  When one is a liberated black man like I am, that kind of slander from "unliberated types" comes with the territory.

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                  1. chipsball profile image61
                    chipsballposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Feenix...you are certainly free spirited...that's a good quality...now about you being a liberated black man...that's something we will need to work on! I'll try my best to get you back into the 60's & 70's consiousness, it won't be easy...that's obvious my brother. You are my brother? Right?

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                2. Friendlyword profile image59
                  Friendlywordposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  You have to forgive some Black People. They see nine out of ten cells in every prison in America occupied by Black men.  They see the general society now geared towards the demonization and destruction of Black Americans males. They feel helpless to do anything to stop it.  So they blame the victims of their own holocaust.  This way the feel superior and they don't have to take any real action by speaking out or stepping up in any way.  It's just a defense mechanizm some Blacks have to use to cope.

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                  1. feenix profile image58
                    feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    I hate to burst your bubble, but the "victims" are to blame for their own holocaust.

                    By failing to take measures to carry out a bold new movement based entirely on unlimited black enterprise, capitalism, ingenuity, self-reliance and self-determination -- and remaining profoundly dependent on government actions instead -- much of black society has signed its own death warrant.

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    2. Marquis profile image66
      Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Feenis speaks the truth.

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  8. lovemychris profile image81
    lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

    Not Russssshhhh's either wink
    Sing with me!!

    "Ohhhhh
    Barack the magic negro......"

    ladies and gentlemen....I am now going to take my oxy pills and drown my sorrows for always falling for sl*ts....

    {cue Glen Beck}...*awaaaaaa* *awaaaaa*

    gotta luv rw'ers...such drama queens!

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      Gusserposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Do you find yourself attracted to Rush? Maybe you ARE his type.

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Gusser, I think you're onto something. Why else would she have so much knowledge about Rush?

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        1. profile image0
          Gusserposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I sure hope Rush uses contraception.

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          1. lovemychris profile image81
            lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Doesn't need to--he shoots blanks. IF he shoots at all.....

            Lot of rumors about him too, you know: want to go there?

            same place you find all the rumors about Obama.....which are repeated here on HP almost daily.

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        2. lovemychris profile image81
          lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Told you a million times: I hate Bullies. He's the biggest one there....by design.

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry, lovemychris, I wish I could take that one back.

            I have to start using less Pam spray.

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            1. lovemychris profile image81
              lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Don't bother...we are all on R tactics now.

              Being against Bush--I've had 11 years of insults hurled at me. The worst being that I took my grandson's to a prison to diddle an inmate...Said by people who brag about going to church on Sunday!

              Gloves are off...by both sides this time. You and gusser calling me a sl*t is par for the course. Russsshhhhhh called all women out, so I'll wear it.

              And don't you know what Russssshhhhhhhh thinks of you? Take the bone out of your nose, and he'll tell you.

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              1. feenix profile image58
                feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                lovemychris, I didn't call you a sl*t. However, in my opinion, sl*ts do have a certain je ne sais quoi.

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      2. lovemychris profile image81
        lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Nope--don't need birth control anymore....*wink* *wink*...but thanks for calling me a sl*t. wink mom would be proud.

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    2. Marquis profile image66
      Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Chris, you are not funny. Please keep you day job.

      Pan handling -

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  9. Don Bobbitt profile image76
    Don Bobbittposted 12 years ago

    feenix, I agree with your statement.
    Or at least I agree from my perspective as a white man, in his Sixites that has watched as generation after generation of Blacks have been told that they should not endeavor to succeed, but rather that they should "get on the train" and enjoy the free ride.
    You see a free ride does not tax a young persons capabilities, no does it provide the appropriate experiences for them to grow.
    And, all young minds need to be challenged and they must grow! And damn what their color or sex is.
    I feel that is what the Democratic Party has done to the past generations of Blacks ..... Taken AWAY their DESIRES!
    OK, everybody ..... fire away and the White GUY!

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    1. junko profile image76
      junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Don, what difference would it make if most of them who wanted a decent job could find it?  Unemployed whites (which is on the rise,thanks to austerity)... are feeling the needs as blacks have for decades. Like you said Mr. Bobbitt it has nothing to do with color or sex. I believeit has to do with conditions..

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Junko, as history has shown, the time will come when the rate of unemployment among whites will drop back down to around five percent, while the rate for blacks will remain at about two-to-three times the national level.

        And the reason why that is the case is the Democrat Party is causing millions of blacks to sit around with their hands out instead of using their hands to help themselves.

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        1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
          Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You aren't in touch with reality. Here in Michigan where I live, the prisons are loaded with young blacks sent there for penny ante drug violations and other non-violent crimes. And when they get out nobody wants to hire them, especially when there are 50 or 100 applicants for every job opening. This has nothing to do with Democrat government handouts. Ever since the Clinton administration, most single mothers have to work in order to qualify for welfare. Because there is no good public transportation many of them spend hours getting to and from work. This is an example of what "family values" means in America.

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Contrary to what you wrote, I am very much in touch with reality, and that is because I was born and raised in it, and have been living in it all of my adult life.

            And so far as the bleak picture you painted, the primary reason why such conditions exist is smack-talking "African-American leaders" and bleeding-heart, pie-in-the-sky white liberals have far too much influence on black society. Those types are causing millions of blacks to wallow in their misery, and to go backwards instead of forward.

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          2. lovemychris profile image81
            lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Latch-key kids, so employers can have all the cheap labor they need.
            Meanwhile, kids still live in poverty and hunger, while their moms work and are never home.

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          3. Marquis profile image66
            Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Try living in the Flint- Detroit areas. Many of the crimes are violent ones. Not non violent crimes.

            And it is not the fault of the law. It is rather the fault of the individual who continues to violate the local, state and federal laws.

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            1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
              Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              I live in the Detroit area, and I try to keep up with what's going on. The biggest single reason for the low marriage rate of inner city blacks is unemployment. And the biggest reason, aside from the Bush/GOP recession, is that they have minor drug felony convictions on their records. Unemployed men are not inclined to sign up for family responsibilities they can't fulfill because they can't get a job. Note: I agree that there is a lot of violent gun crime in Detroit and Flint because the gun lobby has blocked effective laws controlling the manufacture, sale and use of handguns.

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              1. American View profile image59
                American Viewposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Ralph,

                You have a grade point about those who have minor drug convictions but unfortunately they are a felony. The workplace has turned their back on people with felony convictions. They just threw a blanket over everyone in reality it's an injustice. I agree to keep out the molesters, the rapists, and the more serious felony crimes, but some these really minor crimes should be overlooked. Everybody makes mistakes and everybody deserves a second chance. At least they did in the companies that I ran

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                1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
                  Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Agree.

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              2. feenix profile image58
                feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                (1) Both blacks' disproportionately-low rate of marriage and disproportionately-high rate of out-of-wedlock births was ignited by the left-wing "Sexual Revolution" that began in the late 1960s. That "revolution" served to exacerbate a number of problems in the area of immorality that had existed among U.S. blacks for hundreds of years.

                Or, it could be said, The primary reason why so many male blacks are out there irresponsibly "making babies" and walking away from the women who give birth to the children is those men suffer profound feelings of inferiority and inadequacy.

                And those problems have plagued U.S. male blacks for hundreds of years and they grew out of the adverse psychological conditioning that was imposed on blacks during slavery and subsequent forms of cruel and inhumane treatment.

                And the "Sexual Revolution" caused that condition to become even more critical than it already was.

                In fact, ever since the beginning of the "Sexual Revolution," the rates among whites of single-parent families and out-of-wedlock births have been steadily escalating.

                (2) If the manufacture, sales and use of handguns caused there to be high rates of violent crime, the United States of America would be in a state of anarchy. Millions of Americans, of all colors and ethnicities, would be out in the streets gunning down each other, at will and 24/7.

                The truth is, blacks' disproportionately-high rate of violent crime stems from self-hatred along with their profound feelings of inferiority and inadequacy.

                Furthermore, if every one of the firearms in the U.S. disappeared tomorrow, all of the self-hating black homicidal thugs who are out there today would start committing murders with such weapons as knives, machetes, bows-and-arrows, bricks, heavy chains and spears.

                I was born and raised in the "ghetto." I live in the "ghetto." I know the "ghetto." And I am "ghetto."

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                1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
                  Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  The sexual revolution was not a left wing or right wing revolution. It was a sociological phenomenon which had multiple causes unrelated to politics such as the invention and FDA approval in the early 1960s of the birth control pill and the passage of laws making discrimination against women illegal. These were among other contributors to the sexual revolution. The sexual revolution didn't start in the ghetto nor was it confined to the ghetto. When I was in college the girls dorms were segregated and they had to be back by established hours. Five years later when my younger brother was in the same school, he was living in an off campus apartment with his girl friend, and men and women shared the same dorms.

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                  1. feenix profile image58
                    feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Regardless of how you slice and dice it, and serve it up, the "Sexual Revolution" was definitely a left-wing undertaking.

                    For example, even though the introduction of the "birth-control pill" made it possible for millions of American females and males to have "sex-without-strings" and "sex-just-for-the-hell-of-it" as often as they pleased, millions of young Christian conservatives did not get involved in any of that.

                    Additionally, a considerable number of conservative clergymen, spokespeople, activists and others spoke out loudly and continually about what was often described as the "deterioration of morals in the U.S.A." 

                    On the other hand, however, not even one prominent liberal or left-winger spoke out against the "revolution" and the "free-for-all sexual conduct" that it consisted of.

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    2. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hey, Don, I could not have said it better myself.

      And you are exactly right. For nearly six decades, I have been watching the Democratic Party transform black society from a group of liberated go-getters to one consisting of millions of helpless and dependent slaves.

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      1. junko profile image76
        junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Your ignorance in painful, Feenix. You must be paid well. You say some illlogical things. I call them mis-comments. Its a one way trip for whites this time if they elect an illogical conservative that thinks like you. This election is no joke and it ain't about color anyway, it's about jobs gone now and maybe forever. I wasn't talking to you anyway feenix  I believed that Don is more logical than you are. He can speak for himself, he is also a liberated man.

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Well, junko, I guess you could say that I have one of those minds that got wasted. Ain't that a terrible thing?

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        2. Marquis profile image66
          Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Conservatives do not think illogically. Illogic comes from Liberals who violate laws because they feel it is not right.

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          1. Cagsil profile image72
            Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You couldn't prove this statement regardless of how hard you tried.
            All politicians have no problem violating people's rights. So give it a break.

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  10. lovemychris profile image81
    lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

    Well, so far your guys have referred to me as brain dead, sl*t and Belch...and believe me, I would love to return in kind....but I would be banned in an instant....by your "freedom lovers".

    I was shocked the other day to click on a thread and see the F word, A word, B word......can you swear on HP?? cause I can't!

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      lovemychris, I have never called you, or anyone else, on HubPages a derogatory name. Now, quite a few people around here have called me names, but I have never retaliated, because that is not my style. I'm a grownup.

      And the only "daring words" I ever use on the site are damn and hell.

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      1. American View profile image59
        American Viewposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Feenix

        Its called playing the pity card

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  11. carterchas profile image60
    carterchasposted 12 years ago

    BS -- Where did you get those crazy ideas?
    The democratic party once had a significant number who thought like you suggest, but they left in the mid 1970s. 
    When MY MOTHER went to the state convention in 1972, she was a McGovern Delegate.  All of the at-large delegates from her senate district were replaced with Wallacites.  After 1976, the Wallacites became "Reagan Democrats". 
    Ironically, even George Wallace eventually changed his tune about racial equality.  Now the south is more heavily REPUBLICAN.
    Lyndon Johnson was proud of the passing of the voting rights act, and the end of segregation.  If he hadn't gone to Vietnam, he would have gone down in history as one the greatest presidents. 
    The Democratic Party had a problem for 110 years: People that thought like Republicans that were calling themselves Democrats.

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "BS -- Where did you get those crazy ideas?"

      Because you opened your contribution to his forum in such a gross, insulting and discourteous way, I am not even going to dignify what you wrote with a response.

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  12. feenix profile image58
    feenixposted 12 years ago

    At this point, I am prompted to say, Every time there is a local, state or national election, well over 90% of the blacks who show up at the polls vote for Democrats.

    That is one of the greatest tragedies in America today.

    That is tragic because by marching lockstep behind a gang of Democrat and other left-wing pied pipers down a road that is paved with such scraps and handouts as free food, free money, free abortions and free "morning-after pills," America's black society is striding surely towards its own annihilation.

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    1. pagesvoice profile image73
      pagesvoiceposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Seriously feenix, you have to ask yourself this question: "Why wouldn't the majority of African Americans vote for the Democratic Party?" After all, following the successes of Martin Luther King and the 1964 Civil Rights Act, it was Lyndon B. Johnson who signed into law the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Please tell me and everyone else here how the Republican Party has helped the African American population? I'm a tad bewildered by your comments.

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        Ironically, the reasons that you gave on why blacks should support the Democrat Party are the very reasons why they should NOT support that party.

        Specifically, the problem is white Democrats and other white liberals have always had the same attitude towards blacks that most people have towards pets and livestock.

        They believe that blacks are poor dumb animals that have to be cared for and for whom special provisions and special allowances have to be made.

        Actually, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were totally unnecessary. The only thing that had to be done was for the federal government to enthusiastically enforce all of the provisions and amendments of the U.S. Constitution that were already on the books.

        The signing into law of those acts were nothing more than measures to placate blacks. And in addition to that, the installation of those acts was just a great-big grandstanding move by LBJ and other white Democrats.

        Finally, the provision of "special acts" to ensure blacks' equality has mostly only served to feed the widespread psychologically-conditioned feelings among blacks that they are inferior, and that they cannot survive, advance and succeed in life unless special provisions are made for them, and unless whites always extend them a helping hand.

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        1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
          Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          "Ironically, the reasons that you gave on why blacks should support the Democrat Party are the very reasons why they should NOT support that party."

          Apparently you don't think blacks are capable of deciding which party's policies best serve their interests. That's an insult.

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            What is an insult is your implying that I believe "my own people" are so dumb I have to think for them.

            Has it ever occurred to you that because I am a deeply-concerned black man who truly loves "my black brothers and sisters," I want only the best for them?

            Anyway, please stop trying to pass yourself off as being "blacker" than I am.

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  13. Greekgeek profile image78
    Greekgeekposted 12 years ago

    I'm sure my grandfather and his synagogue, who organized an escort service helping blacks get to the polls in Texas at a time when doing so could get you beaten, stabbed, or killed, would have preferred not to risk their necks, but they felt it was the right thing to do. My grandfather was beaten, hit, cursed, and attacked while putting his body between bigots and blacks because he knew injustice when he saw it.

    He was a Democrat, and I'm sure the rest of his group was, too. This was in the 60s.

    Would you have done what they did, if you'd been in their shoes, or would you have assumed it was someone else's problem, and not have gotten involved?

    You should be careful about generalizing. That was just one case, but it points out the kind of thing that history books tend to skip over.

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Back in the 1960s and early 1970s, I was one of the ones who got jumped and beaten up by white bigots, and that happened to me on numerous occasions -- and I do mean numerous. And I have scars on my face and on the back of my head to show for it.

      In fact, when it comes to what I personally went through back in the bad-old days of the 1950s to the early 1970s, I can tell you some very said stories that would bring tears to your eyes.

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  14. profile image52
    BobLoblawposted 12 years ago

    The DNC Web site section labeled "Party History," linked here, is in fact scrubbed clean of the not-so-little dirty secret that fueled Democrats' political successes for over a century and a half and made American life a hell on earth for black Americans. Literally, the DNC official history, which begins with the creation of the party in 1800, gets to the creation of the DNC itself in 1848 and then--poof!--the next sentence says: "As the 19th Century came to a close, the American electorate changed more and more rapidly." It quickly heads into a riff on poor immigrants coming to America.

    In a stroke, 52 years of Democratic history vanishes. Disappeared faster than the truth in the Clinton administration. Why would this be? Allow me to sketch in a few facts from those missing 52 years. For that matter, lets add in the facts from the party history before and after those 52 years, since they aren't mentioned by the Democrats' National Committee either.

    * * *

    So what's missing?

    Read here:  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121856786326834083.html


    If you dare . . . http://business-unlimited.co.uk/Images/Scared.gif

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Bob, thank you very much for adding your input to this forum. It serves to strengthen the point I am trying to make.

      And the Democrats are also failing to let everyone know that beginning in the 1930s, during the Great Depression, the chapters of their party in various northeastern states were hijacked by self-avowed and closet socialists, communists, strident Christian-hating atheists, and anarchists.

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      1. Josak profile image60
        Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        No that happened to some extent and those groups were the ones that fought the hardest for black equality during the depression, I am not saying those ideologies don't have flaws but in the context of race dynamics the radical left was by far the most supportive of black rights at that time.

        "The Communist Party USA, historically and currently committed to complete racial equality in the United States, played a significant role in defending the rights of African-Americans during its heyday in the 1930s and 1940s"

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Commun … -Americans

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Where did you get that idea from, Richard Wright, the communist black author of "Native Son?"

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          1. Josak profile image60
            Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            No that is just from wikipedia but I mentioned earlier figures like Langston Hughes and Eugene Debs.

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            1. antiliberal profile image61
              antiliberalposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              When did wiki become a reliable source?

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              1. Josak profile image60
                Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                When it posts massive number of links at the bottom and you follow them to ascertain their validity, sorry you don't know how to use it.

                Oh also since studies showed it is more accurate that Encyclopedia Britannica.

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                1. antiliberal profile image61
                  antiliberalposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Anyone can change wiki to whatever they want. Surprised you didn't know that.

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                  1. Josak profile image60
                    Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    of course i know that but there has to be a proving link to whatever they change otherwise it gets a citation needed point if there is no citation one should ignore the statement if there is one can simply follow it to ascertain it's truthfulness besides as I jut mentioned research shows even without using that method wikipedia is more reliable that Encyclopedia Britannica.

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                2. Marquis profile image66
                  Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  lie -

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            2. feenix profile image58
              feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Josak, Langston Hughes and Gene Debs are definitely what could be described as pioneers of the "black struggle."

              However, each of those men were products of their day.

              Most of their efforts were motivatived by the dreams of early-to-mid-20th-Century U.S. communists who believed in pie-in-the-sky and that the world could be transformed into Utopia.

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              1. Josak profile image60
                Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Sure but we are talking about their day when you talk about the democrats being hijacked by communists. What they did for the black struggle is undeniable and they were both radical leftists so from a racial perspective that this "hijacking" was a good thing for blacks due to the communist belief in complete racial equality.

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                1. feenix profile image58
                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  For your information, from the end of slavery in 1865 to the 1950s, the vast majority of black people dramatically improved their social-and-economic strata without even one iota of help from socialist/communist factions.

                  In fact, and for the most part, from 1865 to about 1955, black people were not delivered "equality" by any outside factions. They secured high degrees of "equality" all on their own.

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                  1. Josak profile image60
                    Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    Communist support and aid in black rights begun in the 1920s but i am certainly not claiming that Black people did not fight for their own rights and succeeded  on their own what I am saying is that the left and the black struggle have been hand in hand and that I hope will never change.

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                2. Marquis profile image66
                  Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Democrats were INDEED hijacked. But I believe by Socialists. But there are some who like Communism. For instance, Van Jones is a major lover of Communism. He even said so.

                  Black rights began before the 1920s. Some of the Blacks who were in the struggle did acquire Socialist/Communist leanings. Many of the Black intellectuals hung around White intellectuals who were anti capitalists. Many of the White anti capitalists were Europeans.

                  If you take a look at some of the beliefs of the founders of the ACLU and NAACP, you'll see that some of them were big supporters of Communist/Socialist leanings.

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                  1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
                    Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    "Democrats were INDEED hijacked. But I believe by Socialists."

                    Ridiculous! Democrats were hi-jacked by moderate/conservative Clinton New Democrats.

                    Republicans were hi-jacked by ignorant Tea Party mouthbreathers, billionaires and Grover Norquist no-new-taxer-drown-the-government-in-the-bathtubbers. bathtub.

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        2. Marquis profile image66
          Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Many of the Communist societies were more interested in taking down American religion and economic systems than Black rights.

          Many Communists were White. Many of these White Communists still harbored prejudices towards Blacks. Communists did not really get interested in Black affairs until the late 1950s during the McCarthy era.

          When the Supreme Court said that Communists had every right to practice their beliefs, that was when they decided to back the Black struggle.

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    2. carterchas profile image60
      carterchasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The issue in the south regarding slavery was economics.  The didn't believe they could afford to exists without slavery. 
      After the Civil War, the Democratic Party (in the South) was no longer an idealogic group, but geographic.  This remained true untill 1980, when Ronald Reagan and his so-called "Reagan Democrats" (closet Republicans) came out.  Almost all southern states are Republican, now. 
      Before 1980, we used to joke about the republicans calling some of the Democrats "Liberal".  We often called those democrats "conservative".  In my congressional district, we had a democratic candidate that conservatives were endorsing of Ron Paul.

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      1. feenix profile image58
        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        carterchas, you have succeeded at grossly over-simplifying a very complex situation and sequence of events.

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  15. Mighty Mom profile image76
    Mighty Momposted 12 years ago

    Interesting and valid argument, feenix.
    I don't believe enslavement to government programs was ever the intent.
    Reality today, however, speaks otherwise.
    The big question is, how to undo the decades of entitlement dependence?
    I believe education is the great equalizer.
    And which party is more likely to support that?

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Mighty Mom, neither of the major parties is going to support any kind of "dramatic positive changes." Thus, it is completely up to the people to initiate and carry out those changes themselves.

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  16. Mitch Alan profile image80
    Mitch Alanposted 12 years ago

    The Liberals (and many Democrats) have, for years, held back American of African descent (and women, and...) by selling the lie that they cannot excel without the government.  You are correct that this party is not the friend of the "down trodden", but instead, is reliant on building a dependant class as a generational voting block.

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Mitch, you are right on.

      One of the primary objectives of the Democrat Party and its left-wing socialistic allies is to keep the down trodden down-and-out, for the purpose of keeping them desperate and dependent slaves who will always vote for and support them.

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      1. antiliberal profile image61
        antiliberalposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        I too am working to change this. My people need to wise up soon.

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Then you and I can form a team and work together for the benefit of "black America."

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          1. antiliberal profile image61
            antiliberalposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I'm new here. I'll do my part.

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        2. waynet profile image70
          waynetposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You're people?!! what tribe are you from?

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          1. feenix profile image58
            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            It is not "you're people." The correct way to write it is "your people."

            And there is absolutely nothing wrong with those of us who are black referring to other blacks as "our people," especially since a great many whites and others do not regard us as "their people" and do not even want us around.

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            1. waynet profile image70
              waynetposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Easy easy easy....thanks for the history lesson and spelling confirmation! that's good to know....I always refer to any color people as our people as a collective Human race...but I may be one of the minority!

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              1. feenix profile image58
                feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                waynet, you strike me as a very nice and good person.

                However, and quite unfortunately, you are "one of the minority." The vast majority of human beings are nowhere close to being color blind and non-discriminating.

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                1. waynet profile image70
                  waynetposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah I am nice...just daft sometimes....wish the world would wake up and behave, but that's wishful thinking I suppose!

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                  1. feenix profile image58
                    feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                    I just took a glance at your profile where I discovered you're a Brit.

                    Well, learning that caused a strange feeling to come over me.

                    I corrected your grammar, and in my way of thinking, a mere colonist like I am has no business telling an inhabitant of The Mother Land how to talk and write. smile

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        Reingoldaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        This is a great hub. But, Where
        Should the Black Americans go?
        Republican Party
        Independant Party

        The Republican Party will court us until Romney is elected. After that they will ignore us.
        The Independant vote would just be wasted, and lose the election for Obama.
        This excercise would only benefit the Republicans.

        What would blacks gain?

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        1. feenix profile image58
          feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          As far as I am concerned, blacks need to start sitting out elections -- and they need to stop placing so much emphasis on voting, politicians and governmental actions.

          What they need to do is expend the bulk of their time and energies on a bold new movement based entirely on unlimited black enterprise, capitalism, ingenuity, self-reliance and self-determination.

          In fact, blacks need to start following the example of Americans of Asian descent. Most of them are not politically active, yet, Americans of Asian descent have the highest per capita income in the U.S. -- it is even higher than that of whites.

          On the other hand, blacks' per capita income is only one rung from the bottom. The only group that is poorer than blacks is American Indians.

          So, where has all of blacks' political involvement and activism gotten them?

          As I inferred before, it is time for America's black society to fly away from the coop and go out on its own.

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          1. Marquis profile image66
            Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Blacks need to vote Republican. They were more prosperous when doing so in the past.

            Pre 1970s voting Republican

            Black marriage rate is above 70%.
            Black graduation High School rate above 60%
            Black graduation College rate above 50%
            Black incarceration rate above 45%
            Black unemployment rate above 30%
            Black voter participation rate above 70%

            Post 1970s voting Democrat

            Black marriage rate is below 40%.
            Black graduation High School rate below 60%
            Black graduation College rate below 50%
            Black incarceration rate above 50%
            Black unemployment rate above 30%
            Black voter participation rate below 70%
            Black on Black crime above 90% (never talked about by NAACP or the Left in general, just race card politics played)

            Blacks SUCCEEDED more under the Republicans. They do poorly on record trusted the Democrats.

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            1. Marquis profile image66
              Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

              Blacks SUCCEEDED more under the Republicans. They do poorly on record trusting the Democrats.

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          Hustl3posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Yahweh's party...

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  17. Mighty Mom profile image76
    Mighty Momposted 12 years ago

    Carrots vs. sticks.
    Pull with promise or push with fear/discipline?
    Asian-American culture combines both.
    Excellent model.

    On a macro level (heck, even with one obstinate teenager!) how realistically does one motivate to overcome complacency and replace what is perceived to be "not ideal by any stretch but the way it is and always will and I'm personally powerless to change it"?

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome.
    For my miniscule part, I'm willing to see that, accept that, and at minimum, step out of the way...
    MM

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  18. Ralph Deeds profile image66
    Ralph Deedsposted 12 years ago

    In contrast to Feenix, Brenda, et al, I think blacks are perfectly capable of deciding which party acts more in their interest. I expect that they will continue to vote Democrat by a wide margin, but I'm happy to leave that decision up to them.

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Deeds, please try to restrain yourself from putting words into my mouth.

      In no way have I attempted to tell blacks how to vote or what party they should support.

      The only thing I have done is express my opinion about all of the harm the Democratic Party has done, and is doing, to U.S. blacks.

      And you are "happy to leave that decision up to THEM?"

      Well, my friend, nearly every man and woman in the U.S. is "happy to leave that decision up to THEM." Hardly anyone, including yours truly, is out to dictate the way that blacks vote and participate in the nation's governmental-political process. 

      However, each and every one of us does have the right to express our opinions about that particular issue.

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      1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
        Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

        "each and every one of us does have the right to express our opinions about that particular issue."

        Amen to that!

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  19. Xenonlit profile image61
    Xenonlitposted 12 years ago

    I'll exercise my right to call this racist garbage racist garbage.

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    1. Ralph Deeds profile image66
      Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      +++

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  20. atomicrant333 profile image58
    atomicrant333posted 12 years ago

    Mr. Feenix,
    I am new to Hubpages, I enjoyed your posts,you are fantastic!  I am not black, I am swedish/Norway decent, female. I think you have presented your very valid history in an interesting way, I am also disturbed by social engineering, I do not understand why black people were ever made slaves,it can only mean that the people in power at the time had an advantage, I find this disgusting, I think there is a connection between highly educated/heartless people or powerful people with money and the state of our society, they are a minority. Any human that experiments on another human is mentally ill, they should not be given positions of power, because a man is wealthy does not make him capable of making choices that effect all of us,something has to take place in the brain in order to treat a fellow human like this, no man is better than another. I am not sure what is being done here, it almost seems like an evil has gripped the Earth, how can someone look in the eyes of another person and not feel humanity? Who are these people and how can they be stopped?  Why would anyone want to make somone feel stupid simply because they speak well or had a differnt kind of education? This is a lesson in humility I learned the hard way. I was a chronic snob. I will never forget my lesson.
    I think people may just be tired of negative Obamabashing, I respect Mr. obama because he is our president, and I am not the president nor could I be, I do not know what he faces, just as people do not understand what you have seen.  It is so hard to know the truth. All we can do is compare notes and try to make a change in our world for the better. I look forward to your future posts.

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    1. feenix profile image58
      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hello, atomicrant,

      First, welcome to HubPages and I am very pleased to have made your acquaintance.

      Second, thank you for taking the time to weigh in on this forum. I really do appreciate your very thoughtful input.

      Third, I am attempting to do my part to reverse the negative ways of thinking that have been instilled into blacks during hundreds of years of slavery and subsequent forms of oppression.

      However, that is a very difficult task, largely because many -- including whites and blacks alike -- have been oriented towards believing that the nation's racial and other social problems are supposed to be solved by government, politicians and activists.

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      1. atomicrant333 profile image58
        atomicrant333posted 12 years agoin reply to this

        What you are attempting is very noble, and is this day and age you live there is a better chance than ever for a positive outcome with social media. Look how I have been touched today by your contribution and others, it is a way for people who would not normally interact to see the other side, but only if it is positive. The government was not put in place in America for controlling the population, it has to at times, but if we rely and insist on the government to solve the problems it will be a slow moving machine of death. I know it sounds harsh, it needs to be people like yourself, and others who put aside what they have been taught to think. This is a very encouraging post, I feel you will make a difference, you will reach others.

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