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My view on people using the bible as an attack on homosexuality?

  1. calpol25 profile image71
    calpol25posted 7 years ago

    First of all we are all entitled to our beliefs and opinions and this example is not a mockery or twisted version of the truth it is what it says. Many bigoted people will try to throw the bible at you as a weapon of attack, well this is not what the bible is for it is not a weapon, it is the book of Christianity which is a  religion of peace and therefore should not hurt you in any way.
    People may say to you:

    ·  God did not create Adam and Steve
    ·  You will burn in hell
    ·  Demon of Hell

    And many other words of hatred like the above mentioned.

    They are right about the first point god did not create adam and steve,  in fact he created adam and eve and if you know your bible, eve was created from the rib of adam.
    However though they attack us with bible references their is one they should know that I always reply with and that is what Jesus said â��let he who is without sin cast the first stone.â�� This was when the towns people were going to stone mary magdoline for being a woman of the evening and Jesus stopped her wrongful persecution.   
    To this quote there is no one on this planet that has not done a sin at any one time so therefore they can not cast any stone upon you or judge you and are no better or worse than you. So don�t listen to any attack that they may use against you from the bible that is not what it is for remember it is not a weapon to make you afraid, it is a religion of peace and prosperity and any attack used from the bible is wrong

    1. Valerie F profile image61
      Valerie Fposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, the Bible didn't say they were going to stone Mary Magdalene. Nor did the Bible say she was a woman of ill repute. What little the Bible says about her was that she had been healed of a demonic possession and was a witness to Jesus' resurrection.

      The woman about to be stoned was caught in adultery.

      The Bible also didn't say her punishment was necessarily a wrongful punishment. She did not deny she'd sinned. Jesus didn't deny that she deserved the punishment for her sins. The whole point was about the power of forgiveness, and that sinners do not have the moral authority or the right to punish people for equal or lesser sins.

      Now in my experience, the loudest and most obnoxious homophobes I had the dubious pleasure of meeting weren't Christian at all, so John chapter 8 would fly right over their heads.

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        brianv82002posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Yes, most of the most offensive and/or dangerous biggots are straight men who are afraid of what they do not understand.Some of them even have wondered what it's like to be with another male and it scared them so they feel more masculine if they attack a homosexual.At least that is my experience.

    2. AEvans profile image78
      AEvansposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You are correct the Bible is not a weapon to make anyone fear anything it is a religion of peace and prosperity God created man and woman , you are also correct others should not judge in my eyes God created all of us in his own image so he certainly did not create garbage.smile

      1. calpol25 profile image71
        calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you, I believe we are all equal in gods eyes and we are all created in his image but he did say judge not less ye be judged..... forgot the rest but you see what I mean. x

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Tell that to God and see what He says.
      He's the God who holds EVERYONE responsible for their sins against Him, including His people if they don't repent.
      We're all under the same Judgement, His righteous Judgement.

      ...There are a few things you leave out of your article here....

      One is that God is a God of both Love and war.
      Another is that there IS a righteous judgement that His followers have access to and the authority to use!
      Another is that it's usually NOT hatred that compells Christians to warn people about homosexuality and other sins;  it's a burden for their souls, the "Great Commission",  along with the natural and Spiritual inclination to shelter innocents from the wiles of the Devil.
      Speaking the Truth about sin is about Love, no matter whether it's handed out in gentleness or in a challenging way.
      What mature person wants to be condescended to?   I'd think they'd want someone to treat them like adults, not ignore their inclination for disaster.

      To defect others, and to deflect from, the right to the left is the intent of the Devil's advocates.

      To affect others, and deflect from, the left to the right is the way of conversion, the way of God's people.   Different Christians have differing ways of putting their personalities to work for God, too.  Some of us are good at speaking boldly; others are better at being meek......
      I'm meek before God,  but often bold about telling the Truth of the Word to people.
      Many times the response has been (similar to your intent, I assume) that one "catches more flies with honey"............
      The only problem with that is that Christians aren't trying to "catch flies";  we're fishing for men's souls, as we're told to do.  It's serious business.

      1. calpol25 profile image71
        calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You are right and I respect your beliefs just as I respect everyone elses but I heard this dont know if its relevant but "love the sinner not the sin." dont know who said it but hope it is relevant.
        Im not perfect and I will answer to my maker just as everyone else will on judgement day but my god he has some explaining to do, why I and millions of others have had to go through all the persecution and hell just to get to where I am now, Im not moaning though it made me a better person for it. x

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          were this come from ??
          we're shopping, man !!

          lol

          1. blondepoet profile image74
            blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Yes today there will be no persecution but electecution when when we get tangled up in the cords all together all trying to get on the electric massage chair in A-Mart

        2. Hokey profile image60
          Hokeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          In Buddhism it says attack the act not the person

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          brianv82002posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          God cannot be blamed for the persecution of gays, that is a societal flaw acted out upon by imperfect human beings.Alot  of society has it's view of gays spoiled by bad apples in the bunch.A few gay people have done bad things and that is brought to the forefront in the minds of the general public and they assume we are all perverts and child molesters.The truth is 95 per cent of us are highly sensitive and loving,talented people who throw great parties and live in clean, quaint houses and would never grab a straight guys behind or hurt a child.

    4. brimancandy profile image80
      brimancandyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Wow colpol25, you have quite a gay hubpage collection. That takes some guts. Hope you do well with tem. I'll have to read some of them sometime.

      As for people using the bible to attack. The most hardcore bible thumpers will attack any group that they believe is leading the world to God's wrath. We get that it is a sin, yet they believe that yelling at us and threateng us is somehow going to change us overnite. And, not because they want us to change, it is more of a selfish need to change those who they feel are bringing about the end of the world, and how will effect them personally.
      They could give a crap less about anyone else.

      It is those people who are are going to bring about the end of the world, not the ones who are sinning. because they have been known to resort to violence when they don't get their way, and, those who do not think the way that they do are dammed to hell. That is just how they are. They even bombed abortion clinics, in an attempt to kill doctors that might be performing abortions. Where is the right to life in that?

      Not only are you killing the doctors, you are killing the mothers, and the very future child you claim you are trying to protect. Someone is just waiting to justify this crap. Some of us really love putting them in their place, and I am one of them.

      A guy once told me that Jesus gave me a home. And, I said, yeah well he's late with his half of the rent! So get lost until you find him.

      1. calpol25 profile image71
        calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I instantly agree with you, x\

        I love to put people in their place as well, not deliberately but if i believe something has to be said then i will say it.

        I hope you do read some of my work, I like yours too so will be reading them, please do leave me some comments though a lot of people are frightened too x

      2. profile image0
        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        This I don't quite understand.
        You think Bible thumpers are trying to make everyone straighten up so that God won't destroy the world?

        ....Christians know God's gonna destroy the earth no matter what.....It's written and we believe it.

        Christians care about people's souls, where they're gonna be for eternity.   Even if and when we have to pray for Love for those who are the enemies of God, we care about their souls.

    5. IntimatEvolution profile image71
      IntimatEvolutionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      People are just plain mean. 

      You are absolutely right.  The bible should never be used as a weapon, or a tool for hate.  However, it is.  Maybe if there were more strong,  vibrant young people, like yourself out there and not like Tim Teebow, the world could be a difference place.

  2. Misha profile image77
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    If you actually type it instead of pasting, strange characters will go away smile

  3. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    lol
    strange!
    Is he speaking in tongues ? yikes

    lol

    1. double_frick profile image59
      double_frickposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      tantrum, thats you in your avatar, right? *drools*

      big_smile

      1. Misha profile image77
        Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You always have an option of posting even more open pic of yourself wink

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          lol
          I like to see myself in pieces

          1. Misha profile image77
            Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I noticed. Quite nice pieces I say smile

            1. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              thanks !
              big_smile

              1. Misha profile image77
                Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                My pleasure smile

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            Twenty One Daysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            hmm, Wilma flintstone meets Russian designer meets LA Ink.
            berry, berry in-teresting tongue

      2. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Just a piece.
        the head comes next time
        lol

  4. drej2522 profile image81
    drej2522posted 7 years ago

    I like cut and paste...sad

  5. drej2522 profile image81
    drej2522posted 7 years ago

    I love the artwork too, tantrum...what is the tattoo of?

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      2 tribal dragons.

      1. drej2522 profile image81
        drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        cool babe..lovely..and hot, of course smile

      2. Mamelody profile image60
        Mamelodyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        dear god woman make up your mind! first, you're leopard with human tits who has an addition of guy parts, now you're a dragon?? Are you creating a new species?? lol lol lol

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          don't tell anybody. I'm a reptilian !
          big_smile

        2. blondepoet profile image74
          blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          haha I added the male bit you added the dragon, imagine what we could invent in our lab of 'human inventions'

          1. Hokey profile image60
            Hokeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            People just need to relax and love each other. You might think that sounds sappy but it is what I truly believe.

            1. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              and that is what we're doing here !  lol

            2. blondepoet profile image74
              blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              That is the most encouraging thing that has been said all day. I second that motion.

    2. blondepoet profile image74
      blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      And where is it? I'm trying to look through my magnifying glass to suss this all out lol.

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        hi blonde !!! big_smile

        1. blondepoet profile image74
          blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Hey Tantrum I still don't know whether that is a fur coat on a arm or that is a cleavage side on, please can you give me navigations smile

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            An arm !!???

            I'm not that fat !!
            that's my whole body !


            lol lol lol

            1. drej2522 profile image81
              drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              hahahaha...that would be one meaty arm. smile

            2. blondepoet profile image74
              blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Holy smoke hahah I must be blind it is still not clear at all, are your legs in there...hold on one minute if I look hard enough it may all come together....it is like having a cool puzzle to do on a rainy Sunday morn..brb

              1. tantrum profile image61
                tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Take your time !
                or by another pair of glasses
                lol

                1. blondepoet profile image74
                  blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Hahaha I'm so glad your patient I'm getting my flatmate to come and have a look....it is going to fit together any sec.

  6. blondepoet profile image74
    blondepoetposted 7 years ago

    Hi guys how u going?
    To calpol25 if you are talking about the persecution of homosexuals I don't have a problem with gays,some of the closest people I know are gay, and they are some of the nicest people you could hope to meet.
    Plus I love having a few male gay friends too, they adore shopping with me more than no other bloke ever did smile

    1. Misha profile image77
      Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Deb. Are you sure?! yikes

      1. blondepoet profile image74
        blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I'm positive Misha ...I don't believe they should be persecuted...and plus its fun to have someone to try makeup on with downtown..

        1. Misha profile image77
          Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          LOL I know you don't, but this did not sound like this smile

          1. drej2522 profile image81
            drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I believe Misha was poking fun at your writing skills, blonde. big_smile

            1. blondepoet profile image74
              blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              LMAO everything is flying over my head this morn......oh you guys must thingk I'm a complete twit. I have to disagree though I would say I'm at 75%,.....only on a Sunday though.

              1. Misha profile image77
                Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Nah, you are pretty blonde tongue

              2. drej2522 profile image81
                drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                You're fine, you're fine...

                I'm semi-retarded anyway...about 75% smile

          2. blondepoet profile image74
            blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Lol Mish I went back and re-read my first reply and yes I said I don't have a problem with it, which prob came across as I thought they should be prosecuted..I just changed the wording to "I don't have a problem with gays", whoooooooo it is all good now..thanks for pointing it out it must be all the hard scrutinising I'm doing of that tattoo...

            1. Misha profile image77
              Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              He-he, sure, Tantrum's bod is overwhelming lol

              Oh, btw, her head is supposed to be in the upper right, and legs in the lower left - just to give you some yardsticks to hold of tongue

              1. tantrum profile image61
                tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Well, after blonde thought it was an arm, I'm feeling a bit low ! sad

                lol

                1. blondepoet profile image74
                  blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  What is that little appendage sticking up at the back of the pic? That looks like a little arm or her boyfriend is happy to see her. If you can give me that I may be just able to lick this puzzle.

                  1. tantrum profile image61
                    tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    lol lol lol
                    Figure it out
                    lol
                    i can't stop laughing !

                  2. drej2522 profile image81
                    drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    that would be a huge male 'appendage'! Holy cow! smile

              2. blondepoet profile image74
                blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Oh Mish you are a darling I was going to ask for a few navigation points to help me along.....I have something to work with...am currently trying to enlarge her pic...as my flatmate is dumbfounded too..silly sod.

    2. drej2522 profile image81
      drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hmm...I wonder if I enjoyed shopping more then I could parade with some fine ladies on a huge shopping spree...

      nope can't do it...shopping is painful! tongue

      1. blondepoet profile image74
        blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        lol

    3. calpol25 profile image71
      calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks honey its when people are open minded about gay people, I just hate it when they use the bible as a ref to attack us.
      I love going shopping with women its so much more fun perhaps we might some day x

      1. blondepoet profile image74
        blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Done deal!!

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          We will all go shopping !!!!
          big_smile

          1. blondepoet profile image74
            blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            And I can guarantee down-town will never be the same again. Woo hoo!!!

            1. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Lol!! I'm sure it would so much fun !!

              1. drej2522 profile image81
                drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                wait...I'm sure I would enjoy shopping a little more with you two around! can I come?

                1. Mamelody profile image60
                  Mamelodyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  oh can I come? wink

                  1. tantrum profile image61
                    tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    everybody can come !

                  2. blondepoet profile image74
                    blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    The party is now five....woo hooo....feel free to bring your credit cards...I have none.

                2. blondepoet profile image74
                  blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Sure that makes four of us now.....can I get to ride in the shopping cart on the way home?

                  1. drej2522 profile image81
                    drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    only if you and tantrum makeout...oh yeah, I had to fit THAT one in there! smile

              2. calpol25 profile image71
                calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Let the shopping commence !!!! lol

                1. tantrum profile image61
                  tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  yeah !!! lol

                2. Mamelody profile image60
                  Mamelodyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Now you're talking! smile tongue

              3. blondepoet profile image74
                blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                They say shoes should be like the owner. We are going to don these beauties on just for the occassion.

                BLONDE'S LITTLE NUMBERS
                http://s4.hubimg.com/u/881491_f496.jpg

                TANTRUM'S LITTLE NUMBERS
                http://s4.hubimg.com/u/881007_f496.jpg

                1. Mamelody profile image60
                  Mamelodyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  now that is a good balls crusher!

                2. calpol25 profile image71
                  calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Those shoes are gorgeous, I used to work in a shoe shop and always wanted to sell them ones they just go with any outfit xxx

  7. qwark profile image60
    qwarkposted 7 years ago

    Calpol:
    Even using hieroglyphics I figured out what ya said.
    See, the screwy bible says that "gays" should be put to death.
    Fundies read and believe. If yer "gay," keep an eye on 'em!
    I wrote a nice "Hub" concerning homosexuality.
    If your interested read it.

    1. calpol25 profile image71
      calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks will read it X

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Make sure you do !!
        big_smile

  8. Eaglekiwi profile image79
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Best hairdresser I had was gay ,least he seemed really happy at the time lol

    1. Misha profile image77
      Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      What about hair dryer? Hi Kiwi lol

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Hey Misha- no ihe wanted to encourage currrrrl n voooooolume baby  lol
        so no dryer for the Kiwi ,just finger magic ...mmm...like I said ..used to be my hairdresser lmao

  9. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    lol lol lol

  10. blondepoet profile image74
    blondepoetposted 7 years ago

    yahooooooooooooooooooooo as a third friend came over, the whole thing appeared as bold as brass. Yayyyyyyyyyyyy!!! that is you in a leopard suit side on with the cleavage up the top and........oh that is so cool...it is just so clear now.....awesome

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      lol

      Was it that difficult ?
      Wow!
      You needed a lot of help !! yikes
      lol

      1. blondepoet profile image74
        blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        It actually was...I most humbly admit...especially when the people around here are just as blind.....awesome pic anyway it shows your A1 figure...There are male eyes here hanging out like saucers I can assure you.

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          good !
          I was just going to call for a shrink. I was feeling so low !

          lol lol lol

          1. blondepoet profile image74
            blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Tantrum you have the bod, the fiesty spirit, the trail of devoted admirers,why you even laugh at my jokes.You just lie back and look at the stars,and know that you are truly unique.

            1. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              wow ! thanks Blonde, coming from an unique Blonde !! big_smile

  11. drej2522 profile image81
    drej2522posted 7 years ago

    nooo! it's not a meaty arm with a huge 'johnson' poking in the background?

    hrrmmm tongue

  12. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    Oh my !! after all this I need to see a shrink !
    i'm feeling sooo lowww !
    nobody appreciates my beautiful body !!
    lol

    1. drej2522 profile image81
      drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      awww, you're hot tantrum...gorgeous, stunning, sexy, tantalizing, bedable...

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        this reminds me of the thread 'What is more accurate- the way you see you-or others see you?'

        lol

        1. drej2522 profile image81
          drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          hmmm...so how do you view yourself, tantrum (scenario: I'm the shrink, you're the patient on the couch.)
          smile

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Like a big fat arm !
            lol

            1. drej2522 profile image81
              drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              awwww (shakes head) all right, here's some Xanax..get outta here. smile

  13. Uninvited Writer profile image83
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    This has to be the fastest thread-jack I've ever seen smile

  14. Eaglekiwi profile image79
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    Im going to cover my eyes now cool

    Tantrum is hot for sure wink but its becoming a lil warm in here for this oldie

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
      Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Wait- Ive decided I gonna watch  lol

    2. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      If you're an oldie ,I'm a mummy!
      lol

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Now that songs in my head

        Walk like an Eygptian ~~~ lol
        (sp*)

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          lol lol lol

          1. Mamelody profile image60
            Mamelodyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I don't want to walk like an Egyptian..

            1. drej2522 profile image81
              drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              ha, I'm not sure if you meant that to be funny...but I laughed..haha

            2. Eaglekiwi profile image79
              Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              s'ok ya need to buy a camel first wink

    3. blondepoet profile image74
      blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      EK it sure helps if you take your Ughh boots off you know. smile

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Ohhhh ....I was thinkin the fluffy bits was ...geeze...no wonder nothin much happened  lol now I feel like , remember that cartoon 'Magoo ' lol

        1. blondepoet profile image74
          blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          you mean Mr Magoo?

          1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
            Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            yeaaaa...although dont think he was gay ,was he?...hehe

            1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
              Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Now Adam I mean Atom Ant maybe quite another story lol smile

  15. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    lol
    i'm buying a dozen !

  16. profile image0
    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Yes, it's "love the sinner, not the sin."

    I'm trying to understand what you mean by "going through all the persecution" just to get to where you are now....?

    Anyway, it's not God who has to explain anything (though He does, all through the Bible!)......it is us humans who must explain WHY we can't Love God enough to honor Him for dying on a Cross for us.....

    1. calpol25 profile image71
      calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This is true, He died for our sins and we should honour that, I do and preach it as i was brought up catholic so my religion is very important to me. If you want to know more on the persecution read my hub on the nazis and homosexuals it will explain better. x

      1. profile image0
        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Okay.

        If I read it, may I freely comment without automatically being accused of "hatred"?

        1. calpol25 profile image71
          calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          yes i wont attack you.

          We are all entitled to our opinions and i respect yours as much as everyone elses 

          I am not here to attack just to express an opinion like yourself.

          please dont think im bigoted im not x

          enjoy reading them x

  17. Eaglekiwi profile image79
    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years ago

    BP Can ya find me some red heels , red red oh please be in my size  big_smile high shiny and oh so prada ,ok Kmart's fine too lol

    1. blondepoet profile image74
      blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Are these red ones ok?
      http://s3.hubimg.com/u/881018_f496.jpg

      1. Mamelody profile image60
        Mamelodyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        those look like the world's longest lolipops... imagine a d*ck that size..tongue

        1. blondepoet profile image74
          blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Omg if there was it wouldn't be walking the streets that's for sure it would be locked up behind bars in a museum in the dinosaur section lol

      2. Eaglekiwi profile image79
        Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        BP lol lol  lol purrrrrfect dahlink !


        Mamelody  my imagination dont stretch that far , thank god !

  18. AEvans profile image78
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    Ladies after fighting over shoes can you see that this young man also needs some moral support, look at his fan list! His articles are pretty interesting, go read you will appreciate his writing and by the way BP where are my shoes? lololo big_smile

    1. blondepoet profile image74
      blondepoetposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      here they are AE remember you wore them when we went to Paris?
      http://s3.hubimg.com/u/881010_f496.jpg

      1. AEvans profile image78
        AEvansposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Chihuahaha boots!!! Thank you for allowing me to borrow them, lolololo big_smile

      2. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        lol
        they look so comfy !

    2. drej2522 profile image81
      drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      (points to myself) are you referring to me, AEvans???

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Are you interesting ? hmm tongue

        1. Hokey profile image60
          Hokeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I need some new shoes

          1. tantrum profile image61
            tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I'm sure we'll find some nice shoes for you too! big_smile

            1. Hokey profile image60
              Hokeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              AWesome!

      2. AEvans profile image78
        AEvansposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You and calpol25 for goodness sake where is everyone? tongue

        1. drej2522 profile image81
          drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          looks at calpol's fan list...oh oh, sorry..I'm so vain. I think on purpose. smile (shrugs)

  19. mega1 profile image81
    mega1posted 7 years ago

    So, exactly WHY would anybody want to attack homosexuality anyway?  what possible good comes from attacking people because of their sexual orientation or the way they live when it is harmless?  I can't think of anything dumber than worrying about the kind of people who make those lame attacks using the Bible as a reference.

    1. calpol25 profile image71
      calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You see we are taught about heterosexuallity in school you remeber the man and the woman birds and the bees so we think that this is normal but we are not taught about homosexuality and its only human instinct to attck something yo dont understand.

      Its lame but its true ignorrance is the biggest cause of fights, wars and other problems, we are all ignorant to some things in life but gender should not be one of them .x

      1. AEvans profile image78
        AEvansposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I agree wholeheartedly and it is not necessary! smile

      2. Hokey profile image60
        Hokeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        and intolerance

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        Brenda Durhamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        It's isn't ignorance that causes fights.  It's the ages-old conflict between right and wrong.
        It's about stepping up and having the courage to say some things are right and other things are wrong.

        1. drej2522 profile image81
          drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          hmmm...that is a matter of interpretation...each side of the fight believes they are right...

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            Brenda Durhamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Not possible.
            EVERYONE has a conscience or has been taught some semblance of right and wrong.

            1. calpol25 profile image71
              calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              that is true but the Nazis did not have a conscience as they lacked empathy and understanding that what they did was very wrong and in humane x

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                Brenda Durhamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Do you really think so?

                ...I think people reach a point where they know it's wrong but they ignore their consciences and they still do it.

                1. calpol25 profile image71
                  calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  i believe they were brain washed by their nazi propaganda doctor goebbels so that conscience was erazed. that is my personal opinion. x
                  But they were very wrong x

                  1. calpol25 profile image71
                    calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    You can never justify murder either right or wrong its still murder.

                  2. Flightkeeper profile image73
                    Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Calpol25, I think that's a very generous assessment.  I myself think that those bigoted thoughts already existed in the people who were active in carrying out those acts and Hitler and his group enable them to act on it.  As for the mass of Germans, I'm leaning more towards a confluence of economy, culture and apathy that let that whole think not only happen but could not stop it before it's too late. Just my opinion.

                  3. Eaglekiwi profile image79
                    Eaglekiwiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Hi calpol , yes I agree with you there , their conscience had become dull and eventually deadened.
                    Although their (Nazi's) is a good example of  extreme lack of conscience ,the same principle works for all of mankind (IMO) , ie lie once , and second one becomes a lil easier, an so on an so on.

                    In my honest opinion long before I knew and learned about Christ I honestly wondered  how the whole homosexuality thing worked ,sorry could have worded that  better , but I just dont get it.....it has to be more that just an attraction thing  and Im sorry calpol I dont personally know any homosexuals I can ask , so you get to be it , lol. smile

        2. calpol25 profile image71
          calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          You are very right. xx

  20. Mamelody profile image60
    Mamelodyposted 7 years ago

    men I never knew homosexuality topics can get me free shopping! bring on the homos!! lol tongue

  21. AEvans profile image78
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    Seriously people be kind and be serious that is an issue that effects millions of people which is unfortunate. sad

    1. calpol25 profile image71
      calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You defo understand us xxx love ya loads x

  22. blondepoet profile image74
    blondepoetposted 7 years ago

    Guys got to go can't wait to hit the shops.....love ya heaps..

    1. drej2522 profile image81
      drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      later gator

    2. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      CU tomorrow! big_smile

    3. Mamelody profile image60
      Mamelodyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      yeah mee too am hitting the sacks ready to for our promised makeout treat! nite ppl xx

      1. drej2522 profile image81
        drej2522posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        later mamelody

      2. Hokey profile image60
        Hokeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        We get to make out too. Super Awesome!

      3. calpol25 profile image71
        calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        night nite hun xx

    4. calpol25 profile image71
      calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      See you soon xx bring on the shops !!!

  23. theirishobserver. profile image61
    theirishobserver.posted 7 years ago

    Hello Brenda, this is not really my type of discussion, but as I have said before in relation to homosexuality, what people do in their own bedroom is there own business, one day we will all be judged, so why people waste their time and energy trying to be judge and jury on earth is beyond my knowledge........we have found in Ireland that the great moral leaders are in fact our greatest sinners.........so I hope that is of some help.....

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Does it matter?

    Because if we use the fact that everyone sins to say no one should be held accountable, we will be a nation without any moral laws.   Chaos will ensue.


    As for me personally,  the main reason I speak out so much against homosexuality is because homosexuals (for the most part) aren't silent about it themselves, nor do they seek help for their situation;  they're proud of it and they want to make twisted laws that attempt to validate their pride about sodomy and other perverted activities.

    They've traded their silent state of denial for an aggressive attack upon the American basis of morality.   That's what tees me off.

  25. profile image0
    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Suppose I struggle with, say,  lust for married men...(I don't, and my temptations I prefer to keep private,  but just suppose I do.....

    That's something I'd want to deal with personally and/or amongst my friends and other support system,  instead of advocating making a bill of Law that sanctions my lust.   'Cause what would there be then?  I'd have sold my soul in exchange for public sanction of a moral wrong.  I can see it now------a Law passed saying we must give homewrecking-adullteresses their "civil rights".   What crap that is.

  26. theirishobserver. profile image61
    theirishobserver.posted 7 years ago

    Brenda, I have said before on the forums that homosexuality is not for me, however, in Ireland the laws have been made that give equal status to homosexuals, I must try to obey the law whether I agree with it or not, while the thought of two men having sex repulses me, I have no problem with two women, which would make me a hypocrite if I were to say I am totally opposed to homosexuality, also it is worth noting that in relation to sodomy, research all over the world has shown that 80% of hetrosexual males and women engage in anal sex at some point in their life.....are we not all simply hypocrites...I dont know the answer.....

  27. profile image0
    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    How long have the laws in Ireland been in effect?
    Was there a huge political fight about it?

    And ....doesn't anyone anywhere have the guts to stand up and say it's just plain WRONG and nasty??

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      A Texanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You just did.

    2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Guts to certainly, intelligence to know otherwise - often not.  It is only wrong in the eyes of narrow-minded bigots.  If your god truly says it is "just plain WRONG and nasty", then you are serving a narrow-minded bigot.

      good luck with that

  28. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years ago

    http://fotosa.ru/stock_photo/Fancy%20by%20Veer/p_2700169.jpg

    Disgusting isn't it?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Indeed.
      And sad.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        They look very unhappy.

  29. theirishobserver. profile image61
    theirishobserver.posted 7 years ago

    The laws in Ireland are relatively new, no big out cry, its a small country, our 'moral leaders' the Catholic Church is in rapid decline following several criminal scandals.......

  30. profile image0
    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    I'll take my chances with that "narrow minded bigot", praise God.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You certainly have a right to.  It is your life to waste.

  31. profile image0
    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    There is pleasure in sin for a season.

  32. theirishobserver. profile image61
    theirishobserver.posted 7 years ago

    Brenda, On a serious note, is it christian to call others disgusting, I honestly cant get the Bible bashing thing, I have watched in recent weeks as Bishops, Police Officers, Politicians etc the highest leaders in our country have been exposed in a conspiracy to conceal the rape of thousands of chilren in our country who were raped by members of religious orders.........my experience is that those who shout loudest do so to conceal their own crimes.....is that your experience......

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    Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago

    Very...innuendo...of you again, irish.

    No that's not my experience.

  34. TheGlassSpider profile image73
    TheGlassSpiderposted 7 years ago

    I think it's pretty sad and disgusting to see so-called Christians who think for some unknown reason they can throw stones and call other people names; who can't see beyond a person's sin to the divine spark within them.

    I'm glad I can see actual people--the good and the bad in them, and I'm glad I'm not so preoccupied with pointing out other people's sins. I'm glad that I know that vengeance and judgment belong to the Lord...and not to any of us imperfect creatures.

  35. theirishobserver. profile image61
    theirishobserver.posted 7 years ago

    Brenda, I dont get the innuendo thing, what about that bible basher that was caught with the prostitute....remember..a few years back...made millions preaching the word of God....then spent a few bob on a two dollar lady of the night.....is there not something in the bible that says look not at the spek in your neighbours eye when you have a big plank in your own eye....something like that.......

    1. calpol25 profile image71
      calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I quite agree with you irish. im catholic and i do believe in god but i dont believe that the bible was written as weapon for bigotry,
      It is a religion of peace x

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Religion isn't peace. It's control, and if it isn't obvious to you, even though you've opened this thread to express your frustration about the use of the bible against your method of living.

        You're shocked? Why would you be? Religion spreads guilt, control and usurps power for those who are in charge.

        If you actually read your bible, then you would know that religion spreads hatred and separation. It demeans every single person on the planet, then tells them they must listen.

        To think you have your life, you control it, but you give up your life to a fictional mystic "GOD" is foolish. Your religion has made you selfish, self-centered and all about you. As it is obvious, again, by your post in this forum?

        So, since you give your faith to "GOD" and chose to do so, it has made you contradictory in your life and not to mention, since you're now selfish - you wouldn't be allowed into heaven anyways.

        So, that leads.....where? You seem to be SOL in the end. lol lol lol

        1. calpol25 profile image71
          calpol25posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Perhaps but where im from in the north of england it is very dangerous to be gay, its a religious farming community yet it is run by widespread bigotry and racism.
          I might be selfish and the rest but i started this discussion not just about me but hundreds like me that endure the hell and cruelty from people using the bible to attack us.
          I have been beaten up put in hospital along side hundreds of others but i wanted to make a point and prove that religion was not created for hatred though might thinkso, you are right in your view but its not what was written in the bible that offends but its the way they use it as a weapon of hurt. God is questionable we can not say he exists yet we can prove that he does not so to be honest we are all selfish in our points of view but thats what makes us human.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Forget the Bible, why is it important for you to have us know what you do in your bedroom? I don't go around proclaiming my sexual preference. Maybe keep to yourself is the best policy.

            1. Uninvited Writer profile image83
              Uninvited Writerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Yes you do, you are always going on about how long you have been married. Heterosexuals are constantly proclaiming their sexual preference.

              You really do protest too much about gays wink

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                sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Well I never have talked about any activty that happens in my bedroom. I have been married for 35yrs if that implies something negative or perverse I don't know what it would be. As I have said on numerous occaisions, I don't care about what gays do as long as they keep it to themselves and don't lobby to ruin marraige as an institution. Well I just got off being banned for not being sensitive so when I go overboard I get wacked.smile

                1. Flightkeeper profile image73
                  Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I wondered where you were. Welcome back Sneak!

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                    sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Thanks! I thought I was being funny and someone didn't think I was funny. big_smile

  36. Uninvited Writer profile image83
    Uninvited Writerposted 7 years ago

    Not perverse, I'm just showing you that the fact you are married to a woman broadcasts the fact you are heterosexual.

    People shouldn't have to hide what they are just because someone might assault them...

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      sneakorocksolidposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I agree 100%! I don't wish anyone any harm but, if someone is hypersensitive or looking for a reason to cry foul they sould be taken with a grain of salt.smile

  37. Flightkeeper profile image73
    Flightkeeperposted 7 years ago

    Hi Brenda, that's part of the problem right there.  A lot of people like brimancandy read the bible and concentrate on the negative and don't understand the context around it and its interpretation.  The second part of the problem is that they think they've got it figured out when we know they have very little understanding. I wouldn't take any of them seriously.

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    TheVerbalAxiomposted 7 years ago

    *looks at this whole thread*

    http://www.realbollywood.com/news/up_images/11112565.jpg

    Who doesn't love it?

 
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