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How do men and women engage on HubPages forums?

  1. Sally's Trove profile image83
    Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

    I'm kind of curious. If you are a woman and you add value to a forum thread by your knowledge and expertise, do you find that you often go unresponded to, unless you make a flirtatious response to the forum's male participants?

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I interact more with women than the men. More often than not, the men cannot see past themselves, even more so than women.

      Most men are all about ego than anything else.

      Most women are all about emotion than anything else.

      However, I respond more to women, simply because they are more refined. lol

      1. schoolgirlforreal profile image87
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I know another guy on here that talks to women more than men...I think that's cool

      2. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I'm rather curious as to how you would arrive at such a conclusion myself. smile

        1. Sally's Trove profile image83
          Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          LOL, earnestshub, just look at Cag's response above.

      3. rebekahELLE profile image90
        rebekahELLEposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I don't really think about flirting on HP forums. I'd rather do it in person.

        As far as responses, hmm, I really don't even think about it in that light. I know I had a forum thread about tennis because I love tennis, and one guy responded. I was kind of surprised that there weren't more tennis fans responding, but it's a holiday weekend, so there are better things to do than spend time on a forum. big_smile 

        I guess it really depends on why people spend time in the forums.

        1. Sally's Trove profile image83
          Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Couldn't agree more...but how do you feel when your point is deflected by flirtation, or by, as Cags offered up earlier, male ego?

          1. rebekahELLE profile image90
            rebekahELLEposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            with a roll of eyes roll


            wink

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Well, I guess I'll stop flirting with you then. tongue
























              lol lol

            2. Sally's Trove profile image83
              Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              You are an accepting person.

      4. profile image0
        Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        In all sincerity, I can say that I've never encountered that problem on the forums here.  Most of the men are quite willing to interact with me if I ask questions or seek input from them, without my having to flirt. 

        People in general tend to react to us like we approach them, so I've found that most of the men are solicitous and respectful when I come into the forums.

        smile

        1. wheelinallover profile image78
          wheelinalloverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          With this forum post you made two minor mistakes. A person reading it on the forum page is lead to believe you want input from both males and females.

          Men do get flirted with also, and sometimes they are not the instigators but in little ways let it be known they don't object.

          I have often heard it said that there is a time and place for everything. At the right time flirting in hub pages might be acceptable depending on the circumstances. People from birth to death need to know at times, especially when their world comes crashing down, that someone cares. Flirting during these times is a way for someone to know, they are cared about enough to be of value. This works for both men and women.

          I think for most writers here if you ask an honest question you will be answered. Most authors don't look at who asked, they are replying to the question. There may be some exceptions to this by jerks but I have not seen it.

          Motown2Chitown you are so open and honest I can't see anyone flirting with you. I look forward to seeing your smiling face and do know a little about what you have shared of your life.

          1. profile image0
            Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you, wheelin.  I try to be as open and honest as possible.  I enjoy discussion and conversation and believe that it should be kept as friendly as possible at all times. 

            smile

    2. Sally's Trove profile image83
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

      It is so interesting that this question, as explained in my op, is directed more to women than to men. Glad you both stepped up here with your thoughts!

    3. brakel2 profile image82
      brakel2posted 6 years ago

      I don't believe there is much flirting in the forums. People are intense about the topic. The forums are fun and a great learning experience most of the time.

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Untrue. I flirt with as many ladies who will allow me to do so. tongue

        1. Sally's Trove profile image83
          Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          lol

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            The question one might ask me is "why"?

            And my answer would be- to make them smile. That's all that matters. wink

            1. Sally's Trove profile image83
              Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              But does your good intention to make them smile derail the point? And thereby put the focus on you and not on what the point was or might have been?

              You said, "Most men are all about ego than anything else."
              smile

              1. Cagsil profile image60
                Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                I would hope not.
                I haven't experience it and pleas trust me, I've been at this a long time.
                Yes, I said that, but I can see past mine and don't need my ego stroked by anyone. It makes me feel good to know that I put a smile on their face. That's all. smile big_smile

                1. Sally's Trove profile image83
                  Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  *sigh*

                  So putting a smile on a woman's face is all that matters? What about the issue, the point she brings up for discussion?

                  1. Cagsil profile image60
                    Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    It's usually addressed. wink

      2. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Try this one out, brakel2...

        http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/78362#top

        This is not to say that women don't flirt, too.

      3. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image100
        Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I agree.  I . . .really try not to flirt on Hubpages, as I'm pretty serious about either one of two things all the time here: 1.  my writing, or 2. trying to make a buck with it.

        1. schoolgirlforreal profile image87
          schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I've witnessed TONS of flirting on here in the past year.. just wanted to say that

    4. AEvans profile image79
      AEvansposted 6 years ago

      There are times when there is not a response, but not to often. smile

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        And see Sally's Trove, your post brought out one of HP's most beautiful women...AEvans. smile

        @AEvan- always a pleasure to see you. smile

        1. Sally's Trove profile image83
          Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Oh, how sweet, and I mean that sincerely...but isn't this a  flirtation that derails a train of thought?

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Not actually, because I've told her plenty of times before. I was only pointing out that AEvans posted to your thread. tongue

          2. schoolgirlforreal profile image87
            schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I don't think there's anything wrong with friendly flirting....

            as long as it's not inappropiate....which cagsil is not

            flirting is part of being friendly

        2. AEvans profile image79
          AEvansposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Welcome back and yes this did bring me into the forum,lololo! Always a joy to see you too! big_smile

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you kindly. smile

    5. Sally's Trove profile image83
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

      This is hilarious...there are two women who chimed in with their thoughts, thoughts which were not flirtatious in any way, and the thread has gone to...?

    6. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago

      I would rather the woman enjoy the conversation on some level, even if they disagree with my point on the topic.

      Example: *sigh* a quote by you.

      Apparently, you were laughing about my initial post, which means you were smiling and now we're addressing your post? are we not? tongue

      1. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I always find you engaging, Cags, have from the very start of knowing you.

        But there's a point where no one wants to be patronized (not sayin', exactly, that you do that). But I do have to wonder if you have the same thought about wanting a man to enjoy a conversation on some level, even if he disagrees with your point on the topic. If so, how would that play out?

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I would prefer a man to enjoy the conversation and many who disagree with me, have told me they enjoy the conversation. Just not too many.

          With men though, it's about "intellectual" honesty, which what I try to convey, regardless of whether or not, we agree or disagree.

          I always bring honesty to the table. smile

          1. Sally's Trove profile image83
            Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            So, is there no intellectual honesty with which men and women can engage?

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I sure there is, but my experience has shown that women lead with emotion more than they do with rationale. wink

              1. mega1 profile image79
                mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                cags! go wash your mouth with soap!  you just uttered the dirtiest statement (and, no, I'm not being, god forbid, emotional!)  you just implyed that women are not rational!  which, after all your claims about how you understand and love women and respect them, makes me want to be mean to you!  YES!  mean!  women can be just as rational as men!  we just don't happen to think being rational is the most IMPORTANT thing in the world.  I hope you will see the error of your ways and change.  If you think the men of hubpages (what does that remind you of?) are more rational than the women of hubpages, well, just how can you be thinking that when you recall some of the incredibly irrational bs that men have come up with here!  for shame on you cagsil!

                1. Cagsil profile image60
                  Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Hey Mega, for the most part they are not.
                  And, that would be any different than any other time you talk to me? How exactly?
                  I didn't say that men were rational. I said women lead with emotion. I didn't expect you and this post to be anything different. And, it's sad that you cannot see that this post is pure emotion than it is rational.
                  Rationality is emotion free. You can think whatever you like, but that is truth. Once you step away from the emotional feelings and THINK, then it becomes rational. Got it?
                  Go learn more about yourself, before you rant about me. Damn women, this whole post is nothing but emotion.
                  Mega1, you need to seriously get a grip. Did you think I was talking "specifically" about just the people on HP?
                  Shame on YOU. You only proved I was right. Thank you.

                  1. mega1 profile image79
                    mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    so, which is it?  you like and understand women? or
                    you think they're emotional and seldom rational and you just like to look at pretty women and fantasize?

                    your opinions on women are so conflicting!

                    1. Cagsil profile image60
                      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      Both. roll
                      All three. Some are pure emotion, some are seldom rational when they put aside their emotions and think. And, my collection of Playboy(20 years worth) would say that I like to look at pretty women. But, as far as fantasizing about them? From time to time, all men do and there is no harm in that.
                      Untrue.

    7. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago

      Hello AEvans, nice to see you here... or anywhere for that matter. smile

      Just a thought. I wonder what the ratio of men to women hubbers?

      I know I have more female followers than male. smile

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Me too. lol

      2. AEvans profile image79
        AEvansposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        You should take a consensus, could be interesting. I have more men then women who follow me.

        1. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Maybe admin could inform us? Interesting that you have more male followers. I wonder if it varies with the subjects we write about? smile

          1. Sally's Trove profile image83
            Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I wonder to what degree HP keeps statistics about Hubbers. I don't recall if I ever coughed up there that I am male or female.

            1. earnestshub profile image88
              earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I guess it was a bit naive of me to suggest it. I am me here and everywhere else, and made the silly assumption that others are as well.

              Hang on.... when we signed up didn't we have to give our real details?
              Hubpages should have the sign up names at least, and the sex of the hubber. smile

              1. Sally's Trove profile image83
                Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                I really don't know what data they captured...I can't recall fessing up to being one sex or another, and I can't find anything in my current HP profile that says what gender I am. If I think about that long enough, I'll love HP much more than FaceBook. In whatever way HP might be getting demographic info from me, at least it's not by gender.

                1. mega1 profile image79
                  mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  I've heard that happens sometimes, usually with very young children - just forgetting whether you are boy or girl, man or woman, male, female, or other - and I, myself, have been confused sometimes when it was late and a loud noise woke me from a deep dream of being a gay man, then I was somewhat relieved to find I was not a gay man, but was female, such as it is.  So don't feel bad!  lol tongue

                  1. Sally's Trove profile image83
                    Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    lol tongue

            2. Eaglekiwi profile image79
              Eaglekiwiposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Hey you raise a good point.

              If I come back ,Im coming back as a man ,because men tend to earn more money lol my adsense would then be jump from 10c to $1..lol

              1. DIYweddingplanner profile image88
                DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Absolutely!

                1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
                  Eaglekiwiposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Not to mention Id only need food and sex and be relatively content with my day roll

              2. profile image0
                Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                There is that, EK...lol

          2. DIYweddingplanner profile image88
            DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I have more female than male followers, but with a handle like WeddingPlanner, what would you expect? smile Just the words would make most men run in terror!

            1. earnestshub profile image88
              earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              That should have been obvious to me. DIYWEDDINGPLANNER is pretty specific! lol

              I have a lot of car and mechanical hubs, Maybe I should have called my profile Pistonbroke. smile

              1. DIYweddingplanner profile image88
                DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                It would have been descriptive and to the point!

                1. earnestshub profile image88
                  earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Yep! Providing I can avoid being pist and broke!

                  1. DIYweddingplanner profile image88
                    DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Well, there is that! smile

                    I could have used a good car guy yesterday when the nice people at Firestone tried to sell me an entire set of tires instead of just the one that was losing air.

                    If we want to talk about how women are treated anyplace, let's talk about how they are treated in auto shops!

                    1. earnestshub profile image88
                      earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      Yep! I know about the way women are treated at auto shops and motorcycle shops too.

                      Gaining them as customers was as simple as not talking down to them, and explaining things in a straight forward fashion.
                      Women thought they had found car or motorcycle nirvana when they found my shops!

              2. wheelinallover profile image78
                wheelinalloverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Can't use mine earnest its taken. LOL

                I follow based on what interests me. Nothing else matters in this decision. I answer questions based on can anything I say make a difference and that solely.

                I believe this can be done and still have fun which to me is part of what the forums are about. All work and no play makes wheelin a dull boy.

          3. AEvans profile image79
            AEvansposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Could be, but how many wish to read about Ovarian Cysts? lololo Then again there are quite a few who may find interest in it. . smile

        2. Sally's Trove profile image83
          Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          How do we know whether an entity is a man or a woman on HP, or anywhere else on the Net for that matter?

          With that said, I believe (have a sense that) more women follow me than men.

          Cags, are you a woman? AEvans, are you a man? I wouldn't know, as I don't know either of you personally. I know Robie2, Trish, Marisuewrites, Sabu, and others away from this venue of HP. But if I didn't know that, how would I know who's a man and who's a woman?

          Just a thought.

    8. Paradise7 profile image83
      Paradise7posted 6 years ago

      I consider this is a pretty neutral place to put your work.  You can create an avatar that's gender-unspecific.  I did that at first:  no one knew whether I was a man or woman.  So there was no bias in the response.  I let it be known that I'm a woman.  There still doesn't appear to be any bias on that account in the responses I get.

      1. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        That's interesting, on many levels.

    9. mega1 profile image79
      mega1posted 6 years ago

      yes, well, I get the same number responses from men as from women, and men respond usually without a hint of flirtation - maybe that's because most of the men here know that I'm not a buxom, vivacious young witchy woman with a pet crow - but instead I am a crusty old (82) crone with dentures, a walker, and an oxygen tube in my nose.  So far, none of the hubbers, male or female, have let that get in their way and when I act out one of my sexual fantasies here, they are always very civil and try to act as unshocked as can be.   Is that what you wanted to know?

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Well I am a simple man and only go by the avatar.

        Anyone without a photo of themselves are assumed to be non human. smile


        I was gonna use an avatar from a famous movie star, but what the hell would he know about adjusting the crown wheel and pinion clearance on a differential?
        Anyway, posting my rough head on here is no big deal.

        Some poor individuals have to see me in the flesh, so you guys get off easy lol

      2. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Love, love, what you had to say.

        I don't get those flirtatious responses either, and I think that's because men believe I am a trunk in an attic (very much different from your avatar).

        Is that what I want to know, you ask.

        I don't flirt or invite flirtation. But, and I'm almost uncomfortable saying this, maybe that's what some want and thus an "intellectual" conversation gets derailed.

        What do you think?

        1. mega1 profile image79
          mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I try not to have intellectual anythings, definitely not conversations.  I keep it lighter than light - pretty much as airy as it gets.  That's because the few times I tryed to respond with a bit of intellectual wit I've gotten all the facts wrong and was called on it!!  So I learned my lesson. 

          And if you don't get any flirting from the (supposededly) guys it may have to do with your feminine kind of craft-oriented avatar with a "girls in the attic" kind of air to it - that and cats turn guys off, I've heard.  They could care less about our gorgeous hand-crocheted bedspread and the vintage dress we have framed on our wall.  They seem to get all turned on, however, when certain hubbers talk about doing it on an airplane or some such nonsense.  Between the religiosity, the political creepiness, and the incredible lightness of being some of us subscribe to, HP forums are not a source for any substance. I'm terribly sorry if that disappoints you, it actually makes me happy!  but I'm easy!!  big_smile

        2. profile image0
          Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Reading further through the thread, I would say that yes, in some cases, I think that IS what some people want.  I don't necessarily see anything wrong with that, but in some cases, you're right, it can derail the thread. 

          I try not to engage in it, although I'll admit that on occasion a thread has gone so far to the side already that I'll engage in a bit of casual banter with another poster just to be friendly.

        3. Marisa Wright profile image98
          Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I've never been aware of flirting on these forums at all.  I do notice some Hubbers (male AND female) who regard the forums as a place for chat rather than real debate, and will derail a thread with banter - which can be flirtatious, but can also just be light-hearted or silly.  I don't think that happens because women feel they have to be flirtatious, I think it's simply what those people think forums are for.

          1. Sally's Trove profile image83
            Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I think yours is an interesting and fruitful observation. Banter can be flirtation, or not, but when it becomes a part of a forum thread, and even derails it, the question then becomes, "What is a forum for?" Good food for thought.

    10. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image100
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years ago

      Well hell, I just looked at my stream - like ten minutes ago in Q and A I called someone "Pretty Lady," . . .so whatever.

      1. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        smile

    11. Cardisa profile image94
      Cardisaposted 6 years ago

      I am female and have no trouble getting a response whenever I post a new topic. I have never had to flirt to get the attention of anyone on forums.

    12. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago

      Now girls, be nice! lol

      1. Randy Godwin profile image96
        Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        They are just envious of us men, Earnest!  Do you blame them? lol

        1. DIYweddingplanner profile image88
          DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Well, maybe of Earnest, Randy.  But you...nah!

          1. Randy Godwin profile image96
            Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I just don't understand women these days.  It's gotten to where they think they're just as good as the men!  smile


                                      snarkysnake

            1. DIYweddingplanner profile image88
              DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Better! smile

              1. Randy Godwin profile image96
                Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                I can only quote the late, great, James Brown, when he so aptly screamed "hock"!   smile

                1. DIYweddingplanner profile image88
                  DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  More like you'd better "Get Up On The Good Foot" and run on out of here while you still can!

            2. earnestshub profile image88
              earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              lol Let me guess Randy... the wife is outta town?

              Even tiger snakes ain't that brave! lol

              1. Randy Godwin profile image96
                Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Naw!  She's asleep!  smile

                1. earnestshub profile image88
                  earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Great! You still have time to delete the post! lol

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image96
                    Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    She can't read anyway, Earnest.  She was educated in South Carolina!  lol

                    1. DIYweddingplanner profile image88
                      DIYweddingplannerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      I'm going to let that go, reminding myself that the snake was the root of all evil and the downfall of women in general.  Hey, because of you, women (and men!) wear clothes.  See how badly you screwed up! smile

    13. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago

      Your all banned!

      Sorry wrong thread. smile

    14. Stevennix2001 profile image92
      Stevennix2001posted 6 years ago

      I just think it depends on which forums you're talking about exactly, as I've seen quite a few religious, political and social issues forums where the topic never goes astray with flirtation.  Then again, I usually only read my own that I open up in those categories, so I could be wrong on that.  However, this is just from my own observations.

      1. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        That's a cool insight, Stevennix2001. I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the discussions about religious, political, and social issues becoming so passionate that there's little room for lightness. I've ventured out into a forum or two in those areas to make a point, but have NEVER been addressed. That makes me think that there's an engine of passion surrounding those issues, propelled by mostly the same people, that just forges on, under its own steam, and obliterates anything different in its path. Something different would definitely be flirtation.

        1. Stevennix2001 profile image92
          Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks Sally, and you bring up some valid points here as well about this. smile  I think you might be onto something there with your last statement. As I think most people tend to get so passionate about those particular subjects, it's almost as if they feel it defines them individually, so they feel the need to defend their point of views no matter what.  Leaving very little room for the topic to go astray. 

          Plus, I seem to recall several atheists stating once in a religious forum, they felt it was their moral obligation to spread their views as much as possible to people. This tends to make me think that maybe the reason why politics and religious forums don't often get away from the topic is because people feel it's somehow their moral obligation to spread their views onto others; feeling the other side could corrupt our society if left unchallenged.  Of course, I could be wrong on that, but I'm merely stating an opinion based on what I've seen in forums in the past here.

          1. Sally's Trove profile image83
            Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I think you are right on target. If you don't have any room inside yourself for putting your passionate beliefs aside to listen to another human being, then you will always live in a cocoon of denial about your own truth.

    15. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago

      What is the forum for?

      It's an individual perspective and left up to that specific individual and how they want to use it. tongue

      1. profile image0
        Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I agree wholeheartedly, Cags.  Each individual comes to not just the forums, but to HubPages as well for their own reasons.  If determinations are to be made about whether those reasons are acceptable or not, I believe they should be made by the staff.  Sure, occasionally threads get derailed, but how often does that lead to other, and, in some cases more fruitful conversations than the OP may have intended?

        smile

      2. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I'm late getting into the social aspect of the net, a social aspect which is different from social venues in other places, namely, where people appear as physical bodies and engage with each other. In those venues, people can modify and enhance their communication with the addition of body language and other sources of cues to enhance one person getting a message across to another.

        You are right, Cags, a forum can be a place with no boundaries imposed by rules (disregarding the occasional moderation imposed by the forum host, like, no direct slams or obscene language or all those other things).

        So, if a forum is a place of "...individual perspective and left up to that specific individual and how they want to use it...", then there's no grounding of how to behave in a forum, a place of social engagement, where old rules of respectful attention bite the dust.

        I guess that's the new age...anything for "me".

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Actually, there are rules that apply. Those rules are based on character, which shows behavior and understanding of one's own life.

          The problem with "respect" is it is subjective to the individual and has many other factors involved. Some people expect a level of respect to be granted and some people expect an extremely high level of respect must be granted at all times, and not at just specific times.

          However, HP does have rules for the forum, which apparently obvious, only a handful of people actually read. lol

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          Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Hello again!

          I don't necessarily feel that enjoying the social aspect of internet forums means that a person is either selfish or likely to throw all social conventions to the wind.  For example, at a cocktail party where discussions begin easily, it's quite natural for a conversation topic to be derailed by two members of the party, who then excuse themselves to continue the new conversation that has begun, leaving the others in the group to close the gap and go on with their discussion.

          The difference with internet forums is that there isn't really a way for the individuals who have begun a new conversation (which flowed from the original topic) to really excuse themselves without beginning a new thread.

          Often, I think people find it easier just to talk in the thread where they originally posted.  I don't personally find it rude.  It just means that others in the thread need to ignore the conversation.

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Sure there is....post to another thread and not come back to the one they were posting in to begin with. lol

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              Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I said that, silly!  tongue  I also said that most people don't want to do that.  Basically, because we're too lazy.

          2. Sally's Trove profile image83
            Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I like your thoughts about this. So, if two people are in a physical setting among a group of people, but they find they want to engage one-on-one, they do manage to find a way to excuse themselves from the group, removing themselves to another "room" to carry on their personal agenda. But online, that's a stretch.

            That's where I don't quite agree...there are plenty of opportunities for folks to IM with each other, away from the forum (i.e., to go to another room).

            I think folks persist in derailing threads, through bantering or flirtation, as a matter of territorial prerogative. The territory being the thread, the prerogative being the false belief that it's OK to dominate, or piss on (in the vernacular).

            1. mega1 profile image79
              mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

              yep, that's what happens.  been guilty of that myself!  haha - much as I hate to admit it.  I know that I get bad sometimes, sorry.  Also, I think that it is true that when I am flirty, that's what I get - but unfortunately, often when I am trying to be serious I don't get any response.  Most often, as illustrated earlier between Cagsil and me - if I approach someone directly either seriously or not, I will get a response.  But very often when I've spent a lot of time formulating a serious response to a serious question, it just goes ignored.  Mostly, I don't care about that, because I did speak up, and that's all I wanted to do really.  I am not usually here for responses - usually.

              1. Sally's Trove profile image83
                Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                mega1, that's exactly it. Do you think some fractious guy persona ever apologizes for being "bad sometimes" with a "sorry" appended? Never happens, well hardly ever. Yet some girl persona will do that, to the end of inviting being ignored when it comes to expressing beliefs, thoughts, and expertise.

                Never apologize or make excuses for what you think.

                I'm here with you about this: mostly, I don't care about being relegated to the back burner of a conversation. I know what I think, and if they don't get it, or don't want to engage about why they don't, then phooey on them.

                1. mega1 profile image79
                  mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  yeh, phooey on them!  big_smile  believe it or not, I am having a lot of fun today!  with exclamation points and baiting Cagsil to the point of ridiculousness.  Do you know, that if I just respond each time certain people say something, they really get their panties in a twist and I know its evil, but some days, that's all the fun I have!    well, that and watermelon! lol tongue big_smile

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              Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              For some participants, you're right.  But there are those who don't engage in social media outside of HP, which doesn't offer any sort of IM availability inside the site. 

              As to your second point, I agree completely - there are those who make every effort to dominate any thread they enter.  That can certainly be frustrating.  The pissing can be downright infuriating. 

              I'll admit that when intense threads begin to get heated enough that insults and pissing are likely to begin, I'll often begin a lighthearted banter that I hope will defuse the situation.  It's not necessarily intended to derail the thread, although it occasionally does.

    16. Randy Godwin profile image96
      Randy Godwinposted 6 years ago

      Yes, I am guilty of going off-topic in some forums and also of bantering with some Hubbers on occasion.  I'm sorry if it offends some here, but it is merely my nature to enjoy conversing with others who do not take everything so seriously. 

      Feel free to report me if I go too far.  Just don't make me wear that dunce hat again!

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        Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        How dare you! 

        Banned - for life, I say!

        tongue

        1. Randy Godwin profile image96
          Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Banded for life = married

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            Motown2Chitownposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            HAHAHA!  Me too! big_smile

      2. Eaglekiwi profile image79
        Eaglekiwiposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        lol

        Aww your not so bad-for a guy tongue

        p.s Wear does a snake wear a hat?

        (Never mind dont anwer that) lol  lol

    17. Sally's Trove profile image83
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

      @ mega1 and Cagsil...

      Yesterday, I thought the two of you were bantering, with  liberal lacings of sarcasm, and that the exchange between the two of you was based on some kind of inside snarky humor because you both know each other. 

      So, without the opportunity to sit down to coffee or cocktails face-to-face with either or both of you, I don't get the shift in tone between you.

      Of course, maybe there wasn't any shift...I could just be hallucinating.

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Not really. No humor or sarcasm on my part.
        It isn't difficult to understand when "agree to disagree" has been reached. It can be recognized.
        lol lol Actually isn't a shift of anything. We both voiced ourselves and there isn't a need to continue along those same lines. smile

      2. mega1 profile image79
        mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        oh, Cagsil and I have agreed to disagree on most everything, but especially on his view of women, which, in my opinion is so convoluted it isn't even funny.  I often get irritated that he makes definitive statements without indicating that it is his opinion, only.  In other words, "women do this"  "women do that"  which is first of all a generalization and an unbelievably demeaning one, but also it comes from the same guy who made a hub called "Women of HubPages" out of his proclaimed love of women here especially and how smart and beautiful they are!  Then he says we're emotional and irrational - so wow, I just want him to acknowledge someday that he is conflicted about how he feels about women.  Also, we get sarcastic and rude with each other because we have been responding to each other here for months and know that it doesn't really mean much. 

        I feel the same way about anyone who makes declarative statements as if they were fact, when they are only the speaker's opinions and not based on anything real, just their take on the subject.  Its very irritating and misleading to do that!  Cags often does that, in an arrogant way, as though he really believes he is a world authority on these subjects!  but he's not the only arrogant one here.  I guess it keeps the conversation flowing - but I could do without all the arrogance and posturing!   Oh, and also, how about people who won't directly answer a question, when it is uncomfortable for them.  They just talk and talk around it, never answering!  They quote your question and respond as if they were answering but when you try to figure out exactly what they're saying it is impossible.  Then finish up with something that is supposed to diffuse their comments like :  "just a thought"  or "you TRY to have a nice day" - often making it seem like you are the one who is over-emotional and angry, but when you read their words they are very emotional responses!  "just a thought!"  and also lol

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Your view. lol
          They are, which is what you seem to be missing.
          It's not a conflict, which you apparent seem to think there is. Emotion is void of rationale. What part do you not understand?
          I wasn't being sarcastic. You were just pure emotion, like I said.
          Actually, you've already prove yourself wrong, when you responded to my post. lol
          Ironically you would make such a statement, especially when I don't make such a claim. Goes to show your perception of me as an individual is skewed by you yourself. But, good luck going forward. lol
          The fact that you see what I say coming from arrogance is a perfect example of your skewed view.
          Then, change your view and how you see others, then you would have a problem. lol
          Now you resort to mocking me without actually mentioning my name. Must be nice to be you. You must really make yourself proud. And, yes I can see you attempting to turn it around and I wouldn't be surprised if you did. You will however only prove my original point.

          As for my statement of telling you to have a good, was courtesy, considering it is how you ended your post to me. lol

        2. Stevennix2001 profile image92
          Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Well Mega I can't say that I haven't had some of the same observations myself about not only Cagsil, but hubpages in general.  However, I think it's worth noting that whenever you use "!", it's basically the same thing as if you were typing in all caps online.  Which basically tells the reader that you're yelling, so they might think you're being emotional even though you're not trying to be.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that you meant to come across that way but from my own experience from talking to people online in general, you can't type in all caps and/or use "!" if you don't want people to think your yelling.  Otherwise, most of the will automatically assume you are, as it's fairly obvious to misinterpret things online when you can't read a person's face or body language.

          1. mega1 profile image79
            mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I was yelling !!!!! but I was not being emotional!!!!!  big_smile

            1. Stevennix2001 profile image92
              Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                lol Okay. sorry, i didn't realize that your intention.  lol

              lol  Well I never said you were being emotional, so don't look at me. Besides, life is too short to worry about what others think anyways.

              1. mega1 profile image79
                mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                sniff, sniff!  (blowing nose and wiping tears away)  I really thought you, Stevenix, of all people, would understand!  Without my emotions, what would I be?  Just a glob of bland paste, primarily.  I treasure my emotions.  They tell me when people are being pedantic, boring, overly abusive, and crude, as well as funny, informative and loving.  Yet, some people (who will remain nameless) continue to assert that being emotional is a bad thing!!!  What?  Imagine the forums without emotions - would we even continue to come here?  I think not!  and now for the obligatory emoticons::  lol  tongue  hmm  smile big_smile     sad  lol  tongue  all of which were invented especially for women like me!  and also !!!!!

                1. Stevennix2001 profile image92
                  Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Aw don't cry mega. I didn't mean like that.  Besides, emotions can be a wonderful thing, as it can give us strength whenever things aren't looking so great.  Or make us appreciate the little things in life as well.  Besides, I don't disagree with anything you said in forums so far, so you shouldn't cry.  Plus, I wouldn't want you to change Mega, as hubpages would be boring without you around.  wink

                  1. mega1 profile image79
                    mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    (stifling sobs)  You do?  you really think so?  Oh, Stevie, thanks!  I feel so much better now~!  and I feel the same way about you (and your friend!)

                    1. Stevennix2001 profile image92
                      Stevennix2001posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      Of course, you know I wouldn't lie to a lovely lady such as yourself.  wink
                      Thanks Mega.  That means a lot coming from you. wink smile

    18. Mark Ewbie profile image87
      Mark Ewbieposted 6 years ago

      I don't do, and don't really like the flirtatious thing - from me or 'them'.  The other lot - women basically.  And posters pretending to be women of course.

      Basically I'm not interested in that particular forum game.  As for viewpoints - it makes no difference to me what sex the poster is.  A coherent, interesting, entertaining post can come from anyone.

      For me, forums are for fun, showing off, and subverting - but most of all, just to add something that is worth a read, a chuckle or a thought.

      A world away from 400 words of cut and pasted religious or political stuff.

      1. RedElf profile image85
        RedElfposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I'm with Mark on this one. The flirtation, or whatever you will call it, often completely hi-jacks the thread. As I flirt better in person, I tend to mostly avoid such conversational gambits in forums, and try to stay on topic. big_smilebig_smilebig_smile

      2. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Understood.



        I've never seen your forum posts as sexist or subversive. You always add something, and never demean.

    19. KryptoGirl profile image60
      KryptoGirlposted 6 years ago

      So far I have received a couple comments and I just reply to them as I should and I write to them how I would want to be written to. I think it all has to do with how you put yourself out there! <3

    20. Sally's Trove profile image83
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

      mega1 and Cags, you have such an interesting affinity with and for each other.

      1. mega1 profile image79
        mega1posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        gahhhhhh

    21. Jonathan Janco profile image69
      Jonathan Jancoposted 6 years ago

      I don't like flirting unless its genuine. So if I ever appear to flirt w/ anyone its a misconception, I'm just being humorous or lighthearted. But women shouldn't have to feel like they have to use flirting as some sort of current of magnetism. You Women are magnetic creatures. Just go with it.

      1. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I'm not sure I know what you mean about flirting being genuine. It seems to me that flirting is manipulative, a way to get attention. It's really got nothing to do with the object of the flirtation but rather with the game initiated by the flirter, where the objective is to score a self-serving, gratifying outcome.

        1. Jonathan Janco profile image69
          Jonathan Jancoposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Okay then I guess I just dont like flirting, period. Thanks for clearing that up.

        2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image100
          Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Sally, I disagree.  You are certainly correct that what you've stated is often true - but sex or flirtation in general are not just self serving, but also natural and healthy things -gifts from the creator; but only when they are not attained by manipulations.

          Men mistakenly think (this is a generalization - not a truth) that women only want their money, and are basically for sale

          Women are not pleasure toys, and men are not just providers of material nonsense.

          The women who see things in the manipulation scheme of things often lead unfulfilled lives with horrible relationships - because they don't seem to value what is most valuable about themselves, and what is most valuable is who they are.

          Oh - don't get me wrong - I'm the most lust filled creature this side of Eden, but I at least have learned that sex is mostly a young man's pursuit, and that we've sometimes got old age and life to look forward to, and good conversation, tastes great, and is more fulfilling.

          1. Sally's Trove profile image83
            Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I enjoyed your comment, although I don't agree with all of it. I do like the sense of it that portrays flirting as a natural manifestation of how men and women relate, like what bower birds do.

            I don't know what men think about women wanting their money. As you imply, and I agree, there are other reasons men are suspicious of women, among them their own deeply personal reasons for avoiding commitment (not that all men do, of course).

            With all that said, you and I can agree to disagree. I think flirting is manipulation, but it just may be that I am a female bower bird and have not yet found a male willing to work hard enough to put just the right combination of things in place.

            I'll end this comment by saying that the men who see things in the manipulation scheme of things often lead unfulfilled lives with horrible relationships, as well.

            1. Lisa HW profile image79
              Lisa HWposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Hmm.  This thread turned serious since the last time I saw it.  lol  I'm one of those women who doesn't know how to flirt.  If I think about it, though, I realize that when I was a teenager and working in a store with lots of teen boys who were flirting with girls who worked there, I flirted back (a little).  There was something flattering and innocent in the ways these 16-year-old boys (who weren't at all sure of themselves with a girl they kind of liked) flirted; so it was kind of easy to just join in.  I see it going on when I now shop at the grocery store and a certain kind of conversation goes on between the cashier and the "sacker" sometimes.  It brings back memories.

              Then, though, I outgrew that and got so where I wouldn't pick up on just any guy's flirting because I'd gotten old enough tor recognize it for what it was (which was pretty much along the lines of the "bower birds" thing, I'm guessing (although I've never heard of bower birds.  smile  ) Or else, it was just teens getting used to socially interacting with lots of other teens of the opposite sex (with "who finds whom appealing" being a factor - but 16-year-old boys tend to find most girls appealing).

              The only other time I ever got involved with any behavior that seemed at all like flirting was when it was someone I was actually interested in, and who was interested in me, and what - again - it kind of came as part of the awkward, sending kind-of-like-you, signals thing.  The rest of the time in my grown-up life, if some guy seems to be flirting my reaction runs from dismissing it to finding it kind (or very) obnoxious.   So that's offline life.  Lots of women (like me) aren't into being manipulative, wanting to seem to be "leading someone on", or interested in "meaningless silliness" in interactions with guys.  (No offense intended to anyone who enjoys flirting.  I just don't happen to get it, and it doesn't happen to be in my personality."  Something that CAN happen, though, is that sometimes I'll be being my usual friendly self, and someone will interpret that as flirting (and it really isn't).  I suppose in a world of so many different kinds of people, misinterpreting stuff is going to happen.  hmm )

              Online, nobody seems to flirt with me  lol.  I'm guessing that's because I don't put an actress picture up, I write about serious stuff much of the time, and I make no secret that I'm old enough to have grown kids.  smile  Back to the original thread question:  IF anyone were to flirt with me in respond to a serious post I'd ignore it.  When other people flirt back and forth I figure it's their business and move on too.  Personally, I don't get flirting online because much of the time the people involved are flirting with a fake avatar that could really be some "gross" person in real life.  (Based on my own thinking about, I guess I must "know how to flirt" , but I guess I have to be interested in the person before I'd find myself behaving in a way that would called "flirting", even if I weren't aiming to be "a flirt").  I guess nobody involved minds (or else they know, behind the scenes, who the other person really is)  It's all fine I guess.  People like different stuff.  I just happen to be someone who isn't a big fan of online flirting for myself (good thing, eh?  lol )  I like plain, old, social interaction that leaves flirting out, whether a thread is a fun one or a serious one.

    22. schoolgirlforreal profile image87
      schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago

      As for me, I don't post in the forums too much, In the R&B forum, that is just a MISTAKE IMO.

      But in the other forums...I've asked questions about my computer having no sound, or something else, and both men and women have come to my rescue.

      Unfortunately *sigh* lol men don't flirt with me sad  unless it was a long time ago.

      But as far as contributing to the forums...I don't think I feel like I have to flirt...................................I don't think I know how! roll lol

      1. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        smile

        I've never known how to flirt...One year, many ago, a co-worker recognized this and offered to teach me.

        There was an older gentleman at the company, a security guard with a solid marriage, and my friend suggested I "try him out" with her coaching, to see if I had any flirting potential. She'd prepared him for this lesson of mine, and me, too...and guess what? I was a total failure. Just something I never learned how to do.

        1. EmpressFelicity profile image77
          EmpressFelicityposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Ewww, what a horrible idea - suggesting that you use some innocent bloke as "practice". OK, so your friend told him what was going on but it almost sounds as though she set you both up for her own amusement. I hate that kind of stuff.  And I'm crap at flirting too. I also think that if you need to act drastically out of character (i.e. flirt) in order to be able to embark on a relationship, then the relationship isn't worth having anyway.

          1. Sally's Trove profile image83
            Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I'm so sorry that you felt an "Ewww" was in order. He wasn't an innocent bloke (thought I made that clear); his agreed role was to coach me in cooperation with my friend. He was as much for my "education" as my friend, out of the goodness of his heart.

            As for your thought that if one needs to flirt in order to be able to embark on a relationship, I agree the relationship is more likely than not doomed, although I think there may be exceptions.

    23. mega1 profile image79
      mega1posted 6 years ago

      I'm so glad y'all have cleared that up for me.  Flirting is basically nasty, unless you do it right! 

      Now, who wants a margarita?

      http://newsxu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/1309637735-74.jpg

      1. schoolgirlforreal profile image87
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I love margaritas. tongue cool

      2. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I'm not sure any of it's cleared up, not at least for me...but I'll take a couple of those margaritas. TY so much. smile

    24. Sally's Trove profile image83
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago
    25. Sally's Trove profile image83
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

      The interesting thing about a female bower bird is that she doesn't initiate flirting or flirt back. She simply accepts or rejects the advances in her direction.

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        klarawieckposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Now, where is the fun in that?

        1. Sally's Trove profile image83
          Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Nice quip. It could be that the female bower bird has more on her mind than playing games. She's all about reproducing.

    26. Jonathan Janco profile image69
      Jonathan Jancoposted 6 years ago

      Sorry Klara, but that's the kind of bird I like too. Prevents alot of time wasting.

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        klarawieckposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I'll be the peacock next door. Sorry! But I'm guilty as charged. I was born a flirt. smile

      2. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I do think that's the name of the game...be up front about what you want.

    27. Sally's Trove profile image83
      Sally's Troveposted 6 years ago

      As always with your comments, Lisa, there is such richness, so many paths to walk down, so many things to think about.

      Maybe there's an article idea in this for you or me...who has the time to see it through? smile

      You and I share this awkwardness of what it means to be flirtatious, yet it isn't that we didn't have models to show us the way, if we wanted to go down that road.

      1. Lisa HW profile image79
        Lisa HWposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks, Sally's Trove (although I'm not sure a lot of the people who come to forums are always looking for "so many paths"  - and yet I post anyway.  lol )

        It is a good idea for an article.  If you see it as something you'd like to do in the near future, I'd like to read it.   If you don't have time, it might be something I'd add to my list for "some day" stuff (which means there's a good chance I'd never get to it anyway), but even if I ever got inspired to write about the subject it would be from a very different angle   smile  Actually, here's a Part II to your article if you decide to write it:  "How Not Being Flirtatious Can Actually Be Very Effective in Attracting the Right Kind of Person".  smile

        1. Sally's Trove profile image83
          Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Please add to your "some day" list, as I will. Maybe we can collaborate in the future. If I have the time for an article like this, I'll definitely email you. Sometimes two heads can be better than one, and I think you and I have a lot to share about this topic. smile

          1. Lisa HW profile image79
            Lisa HWposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            OK.   smile   I actually have some extra time these next couple of weeks, but it's - like - 180 degrees where I live, so I've been kind of useless recently   lol

    28. jacharless profile image82
      jacharlessposted 6 years ago

      Hmm, can't say I've ever witnessed anyone get engaged on HubPages. What an interesting idea. The whole 'on bended knee thing' would have to be closely monitored by HP -you know, for the safety of the proposer.

      Question is, how to do "Hubber/Hubberette" episodes, and will HP allow video casting per episode, like ABC or Hulu? Will there be a "Hub Ceremony" as elimination round? And what about Hubs of their  travels to say Tahiti, Hong-Kong, Morocco? Sky Diving Dates and such? Cocktail Parties. Post season interviews and follow-ups?

      He he, I am just having a laugh.

      big_smile
      James.

      1. Sally's Trove profile image83
        Sally's Troveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I think you should propose this thought stream of yours to HP. Goodness knows HP needs something to propel them into a site of interest and value. Reality TV's a big thing these days.

        Laughing with you. smile

      2. Lisa HW profile image79
        Lisa HWposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Actually (provided this was not make-believe), I think there were a couple of people who did end up getting married after meeting on here.  (Of course, who knows what the heck to believe or not believe?   It could have been two alter-ego/sockpuppets marrying each other, for all I know.   Goodness knows sockpuppets have been to known to have whole conversations with themself (themselves?) on here.  lol

    29. mega1 profile image79
      mega1posted 6 years ago

      There's so many kinds of flirting!  I bet there are many people do it, and claim they don't! and that's part of the game. 

      Then there are the "outrageous flirts" who don't give a rat's a$$ who can see them flirting like sluts - I'm not one of those - anymore.  I have to confess that in high school I was the outrageous kind and I had a blast manipulating the teenage boys (especially the ones who were a couple years older and thought they were manipulating me!) and making them blush and scrape their feet.  It was the best fun I've ever had, and I'm so sorry if I was rather sadistic, but I was hormone-driven too, and couldn't help it.  I think the boys were enjoying it too, and learning a lot at the same time - we all were.

      It's just that it was like that teen giggle that bubbles up from somewhere and you have to release it or you will explode and then once its out it is so contagious and every girl teen nearby is giggling for no good reason and it is pretty damn hard to stop.   Thanks for the memories. If flirting and loving it is something bad, then I don't want to be good!  I only wish I had my 15 year old powers back again!  Those were the days.

      1. Lisa HW profile image79
        Lisa HWposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I don't think flirting is bad.  I do feel silly to think back on some of the boys I found worthy of flirting with, though.   roll  As for giggling, I still find that whenever a group of close women friends are together there still tends to be lots of it (although when you're a woman it's called "cackling"   mad  lol)

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        klarawieckposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Megan flirting outragiously?!! Noooo!! That would be unimaginable! lol

    30. Eaglekiwi profile image79
      Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago

      Flirting was very much a part of HP about 12ths ago.
      Met some wondeful and humourous writers here.

      At least once a week someone got ,naked ,had too much to drink ,or argued shamelessly for 4 or 5 pages before the thread was closed down.

      Then the flouce farewells would begin,well we still have them I guess ,just the drama is not as funny lol

      It tends to more serious now,and dare I say a little uptight, well kinda ,sorta.

      I guess its part of evolving tongue

     
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