Hot potato inside Catholicism vs Judaism vs Christianity vs Islam

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  1. Shaul Stein profile image59
    Shaul Steinposted 13 years ago

    No, it is His unique name.....EL is God in Hebrew not YHVH

    1. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Unique according to whom? You?
      What about different names given by different masters all over the world ?
      Stop fighting over a name as its so irrelevant .

    2. earnestshub profile image85
      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well we better all stand aside and believe what you do then eh? After all you aare the only one who has the truth about a lie. smile smile Not the brightest firefly are we?

  2. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    arrogance that even exceeds stupidity! Nice to see the real god behind your beliefs video lost! You are a real beginner in this thinking business aren't you? smile

  3. rosariomontenegro profile image68
    rosariomontenegroposted 13 years ago

    I have to say that Video Lost´s language fireworks have given me some emotion, like a flicker of hope. I might be incurably naïve but ... am I seeing there a Muslim hand stretching friendly towards a Jewish hand?

    Shaul, you have drastically changed your tone from your first posts to today´s ... I discover a never before witnessed phenomenon, a missionary Jewish. I was told by more than one knowledgeable Jewish teacher that Judaism is not a missionary religion, it´s not at all its mission to preach or disseminate its beliefs.

    Well, a preacher Jewish, quite a novelty. Only thing, please try not to fight with others because of beliefs. Humankind has had enough of this painful habit.

    1. Shaul Stein profile image59
      Shaul Steinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If a man asks you to give a reason for the hope that is within you, then you give him an answer.

      Messiah and His Apostles did not adhere to what you have been told.

      They spread it abroad. Messiah does not answer to "Jewish teachers"

      Paul was a Jew and a missionary. smile

      1. video lost profile image58
        video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Paul was a Jew, i agree but the deviated one who turned the message of Jesus (peace be upon him) upside down. He introduced TRINITY, DIVINITY and CRUCIFIXION, the three major interpolations on which the whole religion of Christianity is based. He changed the word of God which is a type of unforgivable sin.

        Revelation 22:18-19:". . . If any man shall add to these things (or delete) God shall add unto him the plagues written in this Book." 

        But who cares! He did not really believed!

        1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Paul was saved like we are today.  He was not one of the original 12 apostles and never knew Jesus in the flesh.  He wrote 25% of the New Testament, and his message was mainly to graft in the Gentiles (the wild olive tree) into the Jews (the cultivated olive tree).  Regarding Revelation and adding or taking away from that Book, it is speaking of the Book of Revelation only.  Books have been added and taken away from the canon (i.e. the Aprocrypha and the Book of Enoch and Jasher), via the Nicean Council, but the Book of Revelation is in tact and unchanged, per that warning.

          1. video lost profile image58
            video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Kindly update yourself regarding the matters of interpolations. Allah dislikes as mentioned in Revelations to change His word but Paul did it. There is a detailed documented history of interpolations in OT and NT.

            1. mohitmisra profile image61
              mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Muhammad being illiterate how is one sure his exact words were put down in the Holy Quran.He couldn't read or write so he couldn't check.

              Holy books  can be the works of highly evolved disciples who had attained godhood for themselves.These disciples work on Allah or Jevovah or Brahmas instructions and thats the only reason the words are supreme and becomes a masterpiece which defies time.Its clear god is involved in these works as an ordinary human , someone who doesn't know god cannot accomplish such a task.

              A masterpiece is the work of a master or masters. smile

              1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Well, Yeshua (that would be JESUS) was not illiterate!  Why would anyone base their faith on an illiterate "prophet".  The disciples were also not illiterate!  Just because they were fisherman as a trade does not mean they were "big dumb football players" (as people would say today).  Do your research.  Unless, of course, illiterates follow illiterates.

                The apostles were men, just like we are today.  They were followers of Jesus, taught by Him and spread the gospel of salvation through Jesus Christ alone.  Other religions have their own "holy books", obviously under the actual criticism of being started by an illiterate man who couldn't check to see if it was even accurate.  The apostles were never gods and never will be.

                The Serpent said "ye shall be as gods" (even he didn't say we would actually BE gods, which is the greater LIE) and this is a LIE ~ but, of course, if you believe the Serpent, we know your roots.  Plain and simple.

            2. Shaul Stein profile image59
              Shaul Steinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Please cite where in your opinion, Paul changed the gospel.

              1. video lost profile image58
                video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                First of all, there is no Gospel of Jesus (peace be upon him) or Gospel of Allah on the face of this earth.

                Secondly, the writting of OT was started after 150 years approx. of Jesus (pbuh), so automatically this large time gap between the spoken words and the start of written words gave rise to extreme doubts and uncertainties. And the first written Gospel was not in the Hebrew language of Jesus (pbuh). 

                Thirdly, there are multiple Gospels written by various people, in contrast, the word of Allah and the word of Jesus (pbuh) was only ONE. Later on, these Gospels were changed and interpolated from time to time by several people despite that Allah prohibited them to do so in Revelations.

                Forthly, there are grave defects in these Gospels ranging from Pornography, Mathematical Errors and Plagiarism to Unknown authors. How can you attribute these kind of things towards God.

                1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                  Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  And how can Islam claim God when they allow marriage and sexual activity with babies up to 10-year-old girls, and polygamy also?  Not one member of Islam has denied this fact.

                  1. earnestshub profile image85
                    earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    Well you can go to the bible for the ultimate solution!

                      They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

                    The bible is full of hate like this.

  4. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Therefore the puppet is right and the rest of you rot in hell. smile {tears of laughter)
    Hey! I still have the Sydney Harbor Bridge for sale. Buy NOW!!!

  5. sarmack profile image59
    sarmackposted 13 years ago

    You chose a good 4 belief systems to compare.  I commend you for your choices.

    Catholicism - is a man generated religion - it was started at the whim of Constantine to control the masses that were turning to Christianity - there are many good things about Catholicism - for instance, they support and protect their Stigmata - for that one thing, Catholicism has been given Great Spiritual Power and Blessings - however, you can tell when a religion has overstepped its bounds, because the Blessings go away and bad things begin to happen.  This has happened to all the great religions on earth.

    Judaism  - is a God Given way of life - it proceeded through Isaac - the Promised Child of Abraham - the Jew is dedicated to living according to the Law God has Given us to live by - the Messianic Jew was the group that ultimately Crucified Yeshua HaMachiach - it was not the organized religious figures as history has shown - closer evaluation Reveals that it was the masses who had followed Him and listened to Him, shouting to Crucify Him, who swayed the verdict -

    Christianity - is a God-Ordained Way of Life - it is not just for this lifetime on earth - it is an Eternal Way of Life - With the Advent of Christianity on Pentacost, following the Resurrection of Yeshua HaMachiach which could only occur after His death on the Cross, Judaism was to go by the wayside for all those Jews who were Called to Christianity - Christianity  will bring all of God's people into one fold, the Jew and the Gentile - there is no person on this earth or in Heaven who can stop the Will of God on this issue -

    Islam - is also a God Given way of life - this religion came through Ishmael, the slave woman's child of Abraham - I will address this religion with an personal experience - one afternoon, I was sitting in a park in a small town in Georgia.  There were Middle Eastern families having a picnic there.  You could tell their belief system by their dress.  I was swinging! and one of the women walked by with her son.  I said hello!  She just looked at me and walked on.  Almost instantly, what I assume was her husband walked up to me and asked me if I was having a good day.  He explained that they were having a family outing and some other things.  He was PROTECTING his family.  I was so amazed as I sat and watched these families.  The men were very attentive to their wives and children.  To have such devotion and protection would be a God-send for those of us who are True Christian women in this country. 

    For all the bad things that may be associated with any religion, there are Good things.  We must look for the Good in everything and not dwell on the bad.  What you Believe is what you will live.  If you Believe bad things or only see evil things, you will live the evil.

    All of the religions have their writings to back up what they believe.  Stand up for what you believe and you will live out your Destiny.  As for me, I AM to Love my enemy.  It is not for me to judge, but to Love each person and to assume that they are living out the life God has dictated for them.  I Pray that I do God justice in the life He has Given me to live, so that others can see and Know what a True Christian really is. 

    Yom Kippur is coming up begin the evening of September 27th.  May visions of your success and future be with you.

    Bless you all!

    1. Valerie F profile image61
      Valerie Fposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That is a common misconception perpetuated by people who are either ignorant of history or have a vested interest in historical revisionism.

      The Catholic Church predates the Emperor Constantine by a few centuries plus change, as Apostolic succession and the office that would become known as the papacy began with Jesus and St. Peter rather than with Pope Sylvester during Constantine's reign.

      Constantine called the Council of Nicea not to "control the masses," but to make sure people turning to Christianity were really turning to Christianity rather than to a heresy. It codified Christianity, established the same creed even most Protestant denominations profess, and firmly determined which books were canon and to be included in the New Testament as well as which canon of the Hebrew Bible to use. Constantine, however, had no say beyond organizing the Council. However, he seated all the bishops ahead of himself and had no vote in the proceedings, so it's not like he "started" the Catholic Church.

  6. sarmack profile image59
    sarmackposted 13 years ago

    I apologize, but I feel that I must address a couple more things.  I tried hard not to go this far, but I must Stand up for what I Believe!

    Yahweh is the Name of God - it is your breath - as you breath in and out, you can actually hear His Name - The J is from other languages getting into the picture and tainting it.

    The Words Yeshua spoke were straight from the Old Testament.  Each thing He spoke of can be traced back to the Old Testament.  He did not generate any new Law.  Love one another can be found in the Old Testament. He did not change God's Words.  He spoke straight from the Source.  He is the Son of God and there is no other.

    Seek the Truth and you shall find It!

    1. video lost profile image58
      video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Dear Sarah,

      As per friendly knowledgeabe discussion i am bound to show off the truth. The case of "YHWH/ELOHIM is equal to Oh He is Allah" is very clear from my above account.

      Now let me tell you about the story of J which is that the European Christians have developed a sickness for the letter "J". They add J's where there are no Jays. Look!

      Yael    he converts to    Joel
      Yehuda                to  Juda
      Yeheshua        to    Joshua
      Yusuf                to    Joseph
      Yunus                to    Jonah
      Yesus                to    Jesus
      Yehowa                to    Jehovah

      There is no end to the Westerner's infatuation for the letter "J."

      1. mohitmisra profile image61
        mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        There is no difference between Jevovah ,Allah, Brahma or Ahura Mazda.Fighting over the name reflects a very poor understanding of god.

    2. Vladimir Uhri profile image59
      Vladimir Uhriposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Amen.

  7. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    As many will repeat, there is no proof at all for god. Not one bit.

    1. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Only a book on god can defy time. smile

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Many tomes have been around a long time Mohit, but their is still no proof of god. smile

        1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
          My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          My friend says:
          There is proof of love, that love is real and it is everlasting.

        2. mohitmisra profile image61
          mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thats true earnesthub but I doubt any tomb exists as old as the Holy Vedas. smile

          1. earnestshub profile image85
            earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            lol No, Mohit I said Tome, as in large religious work. smile

            1. mohitmisra profile image61
              mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Oops sorry yes I get your point I understand you .smile
              Its only after one finds his own proof can he really relate with these works.Like I said before you may read these books a million times and still not understand God. smile
              You are just being honest something some are unable to digest.smile

              1. mohitmisra profile image61
                mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Look at Usmanail he has read the Holy Quran but has no idea about god. smile

                1. earnestshub profile image85
                  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, he remains a zealot. thank you for understanding. I do have a basis for my belief as you know, and your belief is not defines religiously and so is not a problem to me. smile smile

                  1. mohitmisra profile image61
                    mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    I was an atheist and didn't understand a word of these books before enlightenment.These book try and inspire man to find god ,same thing I am trying with my book. smile

  8. Shaul Stein profile image59
    Shaul Steinposted 13 years ago
  9. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Thanks Mohit. smile

    1. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you earnesthub. smile

  10. tantrum profile image59
    tantrumposted 13 years ago

    I don't want to be saved ! I already bought my ticket for the Abyss. I'll stick with the Devil ,of you don't mind

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I updated my comment above.  Please read my hub, "Healed of Spinal Meningitis" ~ I pray you don't have a reservation in the abyss, but that Jesus is preparing your heart now to receive Him.

      1. tantrum profile image59
        tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Look Judah's daughter ( Carrie Bradshow ? ) I don't have anything against you . O. K ? just don't preach me I BEG YOU. Leave me alone and I'll do the same .Peace !!!

        1. Mark Knowles profile image59
          Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Good luck with that. wink

          1. tantrum profile image59
            tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              lol

            1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
              Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              I'm glad to know people understand I won't give up on anyone until I see my Lord.  He would do the same for you!!

              1. tantrum profile image59
                tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  sad sad sad sad !!!!!!!
                Then go to Hell !

                1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                  Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Now, THAT would be torment for you...we wouldn't want to see that happen :-/  But, I'd love to see you in heaven :-)

      2. Mark Knowles profile image59
        Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        And I hope that one day you will come to realize how wrong you are and the hatred you spread.

        Too bad you are so blind to the conflict you cause. Or is that your intention?

        Seems like it. Please read my hub "why evolution proves there is no god." smile

        1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          You can't heal an infected wound if you don't open it up...that's my job :-)

          1. Mark Knowles profile image59
            Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            LOL

            You cannot heal an infected wound by pouring acid into it. Especially when the wound does not exist. You really are sad. In fact - I pity you.

            This is the problem with holding the ridiculous beliefs you hold. You think you are being loving, but in reality - as you can tell from the responses you generally get and your need to close down Carrie Bradshaw and hide behind a new user - you are spreading hatred and conflict.

            This is because you are not well. If you are really that terrified of facing reality I can help. I used to be a therapist and have helped numerous people face their fears and inner demons. Make a post here letting me know where you live and I can put you in touch with a therapist in your area.

            Off hand, I would say it is really a fear of death, and the need to spread the hatred and venom in this way somehow lets that out of your system. I would like to bet you feel really guilty when you are not doing this. And although this may help you in the short term, the bad karma and ill-will you spread will make it's way back to you eventually.

            Read some of Jewels hubs and you will begin to understand your problem. wink

            Read some of mine to help you divest yourself of this god fixation and need to hurt others.

            We can help.

            1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
              Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Maybe if my name was "The Girl Next Door" you'd approve?  I don't marvel at you not knowing me, for you don't know Jesus.

              1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I know you better than you could ever understand. wink

                1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                  Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  That sounds almost compassionate.  I will have to pray that whatever hardened your heart against the Lord will be bound from happening to me.  I love my Lord with all my heart and I would never want to be without Him; now or for all eternity.

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                    Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    It is compassionate. I can help and I already offered. I can feel your pain and need to hurt through the keyboard. Seriously - let me know where you live and I can put you in touch with a therapist that can help. Trust me - you will feel a lot better.

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 13 years ago

    ring side seat for me.... this is getting good

  12. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Some more love, peace and understanding from your sick man made deity. smile

      Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword.  Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes.  Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes.  For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off.  The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows.  They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.  (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)



    The Quoran is no worse than the bible. They are both complete with the brutality and neurosis of the time! Avenging sadistic self anointing garbage the lot of it!
    Have any of you read the whole book? Either of them?

  13. tantrum profile image59
    tantrumposted 13 years ago
    1. earnestshub profile image85
      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      lol lol

  14. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years ago

    My friend says:
    If people reject the message you carry, it is wise to take your message to another people.
    The message can be left on the doorstep.

    1. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/innocent/innocent0006.gif

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Hi Tantrum, that is cute!

        1. tantrum profile image59
          tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            hi !!I hoope u c d irony in it LOL !

          1. earnestshub profile image85
            earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Sure! smile

    2. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, Paul tells Timothy to "flee to the next City" when the message is not received.  I'm certain Timothy didn't give up too easily, for to do so turns them over to a depraved mind or to a strong delusion to believe the lies that are irreversable.  I can only pray that other Christians will carry on when I am called away...the harvest is ripe, but the laborers are few, the Bible says.  I love people the way He does, and one of the fruits of the Spirit is long-suffering ~~ patience....I am praying for these guys...especially the beloved Tantrum ~~ dear heart he is...

  15. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    That would appear to depend on what religion he follows smile

    The bible:  The LORD issued the following command to Moses: "Seize all the ringleaders and execute them before the LORD in broad daylight, so his fierce anger will turn away from the people of Israel."  He was speaking of those who follow other religions. smile

    I think that speaks volumes smile

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Any other god before Allah, Yehovah, Elohim, El Elyon, Elowah...will be destroyed.  Amen.  In the Old Testament, which you quote, all humanity was under His Law of sin and death.  Yeshua (Jesus) came as God with us (Immanuel) to die for us, so we are now under grace from God's judgment and wrath, but only if we accept Him.  He is the ONLY WAY.  Amen.

    2. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I see you use this thread to exercise your mind and that's good ! It's a shame  you only found such an easy contender ! big_smile

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        So true tantrum. Avoid or sidestep, I read the whole bloody thing, and can see we have us a small thinking zealot here, with no desire to know "outside"
        lol

  16. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    but the bible has a solution!

    (Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came.  He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors."  The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day.  Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing."  (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

    I would love to see you and a "devout" Muslim go at it, it would be hilarious, seeing you toss bits of your books at each other. lol lol

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Except that it's truly no laughing matter...God will not be laughing when He says to those on His left "Depart from Me" and sends them to eternal torment.  There will be NO WAY OUT, salvation through NO OTHER gOD.  No man will be able to save himself.  That's why the message you hear is so urgent ~ for even you are not promised another breath...

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        you have a very small mentally ill god who is severely neurotic. That you could "worship" such a god defies any humanity at all. A vengeful, narrow minded fixated insecure, stupid, bullying psychopath is your god?
        How anyone can believe this dribble is beyond comprehension! smile

        1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Last I checked, you claimed to believe in the same God, just with different prophets.  Amazing.  Sounds to me like you HATE the God of the Bible, your CREATOR.  Heaven would be a miserable place for you, then...

  17. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    You obviously do not read other peoples comments! smile or satire is not something you are sophisticated enough to understand. smile
    No god for me thanks!

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I haven't lowered myself to calling names, just sharing the truth.  When something sounds too good to be true, it is.  There is evil and good in the Bible, righteousness, sanctification, salvation and judgment and wrath.  We were created in God's image, and likewise we have good and wrath in us.  God both loves and hates.  He loves His children with agape love and loves the world with agapao love, and hates His enemies.  Likewise, we love God with agape love (and our brethren), we love the world with agapao love (social, principled, moral), and we hate His enemies as He does.  Right now, I love you with agapao love, without hate.  I do hate the Adversary that deceives innocent people and will work until the day I go to be with my Father in heaven, to make straight the crooked ways of the Serpent, the father of lies...because He loves you!!

  18. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    The bible like the quoran are no proof of any god, were not written by any god, and are certainly "ungodly"
    They are sexist, they condone murder as a way of dealing with other people's beliefs and are foolish in the extreme in their naivety towards self knowledge.

    You and your god would have those who are of another belief murdered. You are why there are religious wars all over the world right now, spouting this sort of rot while killing each other which in my view is OK but it is not OK when you take the innocent with you!

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thou shalt not kill is a commandment of our Lord.  That kind of kill is murder.  We have armed forces that go to war and kill for righteous reasons.  God does not kill without cause.  Before Jesus came, God told His people what to do to exercise His wrath.  Now, God knows what governments are doing and causes His consequences to fall according to His will.  However, remember that Jesus allowed Himself to be killed mercilessly and His disciples were also killed mercilessly.  It is prophesied that we as Christians will be killed for our faith by the hand of the anti-christ, unless He comes to take His church beforehand, but by what I read, it is the former.  We are willing to die for our faith, knowing it is for just a moment in time.  However, when Jesus returns with His armies, there will be no mercy.  He is the Omega.  He is the END.  He reigns because He is the great "I AM", the Author and Finisher of all things.  Amen.

      The only sinless One that was killed since the beginning of time was Jesus Christ (but even that had its righteous purpose).  Our sin killed Him, but He overcame death and so will His followers who have received His forgiveness through His death and resurrection.

  19. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    the Bible is full of the sort of murder you speak of. Your blind faith allows you to hate and kill "sinners" and you decide how to interpret what you read. Putting all your trust in your superior knowledge to ostracize and kill "others" because they do not believe what you do. Unbelievable!
    Your indictment is in your own words as well as the bible.

       Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.  (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
    What an insecure neurotic little god you have! smile

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Obedience is better than sacrifice, His Word says. And yes, every word we speak we are held accountable for.  I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes.  My Lord is Jesus, God in the flesh, and His power is the Spirit of Truth in which I walk.  I am not perfect, but my Lord is.  He is my righteousness by which I speak boldly.

      Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.  This is why I share His Word.  We only know in part until He comes again, and I can only do my very best.

      Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth.  Amen.

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        It is what you call truth that spouts hate against others, as below.

            John 8:44: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." In this passage, Jesus is speaking to Jews who, like the majority of the residents of Palestine, rejected his teachings. He says that they are sons of Satan.

        Speaking to the Jews and most of Palestines population! i guess you need to wipe out the Jews too eh? smile

        1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          The Jews were the religious leaders of the day.  They worshiped the Law more than God and were full of self.  That is why they were of their "father, the devil".  Who did the Devil murder?  JESUS.  It was meant to be.  However, Jesus said He came to His own, the Jews, and they did not receive Him.  Since then, many have.  He also promises that all Israel will be saved.  Did you know that?  How great is His mercy toward His chosen ones.  We, as Gentiles (any that are not Jewish by birth) are grafted into their promises because we have received the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

          So murder is of the Devil.  That is clear.  Religious people that murder other people are not representative of saved people.  Religion is works and pride-based.  It is "self-centered", not "God-centered".  God said to His people, that though they had the commandments, such as "Thou Shalt Not Kill", He went on to say that if they even harbored hate in their hearts toward a brother, they are guilty.  He said that circumcision is not of the flesh in His Book, but of the HEART.  He makes our heart clean and we will then bear His fruit (Galatians 5:22).

          Sin is of the Devil.  Righteousness is of Christ Jesus.  He who knew no sin became sin for us, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.  He forgives.  Only He can forgive any of us.  He forgives you and remembers your sin no more!! Ever!! Done!! Finished!!  He loves you ~~

          If His Word slices and dices, it's called "conviction".  This is like a surgeon's scapel, not a butcher knife.  It heals, not kills.  I praise God that "feathers" get ruffled, because this is the work of the Holy Spirit!  I am greatly encouraged.

  20. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    And so naturally your god has to kill the Palestinians, any friends and family that worship differently to you, homosexuals, women, Muslims etc just like the quoran does.

    That you see nothing psychotic in this speaks volumes for indoctrination! smile
    None so blind etc. smile

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      He is God.  He is the Law.  He wins.  The first of the ten commandments written by the finger of God states, "Thou Shalt Have No Other gods Before Me."  Those who rebel against His authority have given dominion to His Adversary, the Devil and are of him.  The Devil is their father, though they don't realize this.  God says it and He is Truth.

      He also made a way for you to give dominion back to Him.  It's still your choice as it was from the beginning.  He also is faithful to you.  He will never leave you nor forsake you.  He will smite your enemies; you don't have to.  The power is in His Word.  Revelation states that the battle of Har-Magedon will be won by the Word of His mouth.  Are we in that spiritual battle even now?

      Be smitten with His love, not His wrath.  He is God of gods.  He is King of kings.  He is Lord of lords and He is the only one that can save you and will raise you ~ either to eternal life or eternal judgment.  It's your choice...make that choice when He calls you because He has a work for you to do!!  He loves you so much He paid the price already for your sin.  He paid the price for the whole world.  Because man has this choice given to him by his Creator, it is man that chooses his destiny.  He cannot change God, nor His Law.  It is forever.

  21. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    All this without even one iota of proof. This is complete indoctrination, take away the madness of believing the bible is the word of god and you have something else. Reality. smile
    The truth does not hang around for years get written by four or five people and then we are all set to base a life on it? Not one prayer is ever answered, no proof of anything just barking at the moon. smile I found out years ago that religionists can't grow or learn. Learning that does not fit the current mind set is "of the devil".
    I call it the "devil in the corner" syndrome. smile

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      God doesn't hear sinners.  It says so in the Word.  But, if a sinner is repentant and is truly crying out to Abba (Father), He will hear you.  He will heal you and heal your land.  He will be given the dominion back over your life.  He will fill you with His Spirit.  You will know His voice and He knows yours.  Believe me.  I have hubs about His answers, and they are miraculous!  It's all yours ~~ it's truth.

      I have a hub called "Believe and Receive" and one about the "Healed of Spinal Meningitis", as well as "Interpretation of Spiritual Tongues".  These are truth.  They are real.  And it is my testimony!!  I wouldn't believe in something that was dead!!  He is alive and He will prove it to you!!

  22. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Not one sign of proof there either. god does not hear anyone! Children dying horribly? god can do nothing, has done nothing, will continue to do nothing, does not exist. smile
    Your proofs are as crazed as your beliefs! smile

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You've read those hubs?  It is Satan who does these horrible things.  Adam and Eve gave him dominion in the Garden.  God gave Adam and Eve dominion first, and they gave it to Satan!  That's why Satan is called the "god of this world".  He reigns here for a short time and does the most horrible things that causes those like you to reject faith that God would allow this.  Everyone who dies faces eternity.  The innocent to life everlasting.  Satan is said to be like a roaring lion, prowling around, seeking whom he can devour.  He kills, steals and destroys.  Jesus said He has come to give us life and more abundantly.  If you don't have Jesus, you don't have His protection.  He even puts angels in charge over you, watching every step you take.

      If God has hardened your heart, I will pray that He open your heart again.  He did this with Pharaoh, but Pharaoh was stubborn and kept hardening his heart again and again.  Please don't let Satan win in your heart, earnestshub.

      You won't understand anything, the "light", until you invite the light to shine in your heart.  Then, your eyes will be opened.  Do you think every believer is simply crazy and brain-washed?  Are we that stupid to serve a dead religion?  A dead god?

      There's HOPE.  Have the faith of a mustard seed.  Do you know how small a mustard seed is?  That's all it takes.  By grace you are saved through FAITH.  It's the gift of God, not of works, so no one can boast.  Have a little faith, man!!

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        You seem to be missing something here. I have been you, thirty years ago, so I know much about your faith.Your god does not enter my happy life any more, I studied my way right out the other end of your beliefs. I have no desire to have other men or women tell me what to believe either. And instead of arguing about who's god is the real one, I get to look at stuff your religion forbids you to know. smile

        1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          The rejection of the light is the love of darkness, which it looks like you have made the god in your life.  Satan may be winning the battle for your soul (another hub I also wrote), but he has not won the war.  I have faith for you.  I wandered away from God also, and He yanked me right back just a few months ago, brother.  And I call you brother, yes I do.  I speak it in faith.  He is faithful, even when we are not.  You obviously were called and Satan's been after you big-time.  You know why?  It's what I said, inspired by the Holy Spirit.  He called you to a work for Him and you will complete it.  I know it more now than ever.  You'd better be looking for God's love because He's going to shower it on you...I don't even have to know it from you, because I already know it from Him! Praise the Lord!!! I have the Holy Spirit bumps all over my body.  I am right on.  You just watch, brother.  I am your sister and I am His and you are, too!  He has not forsaken you.

          He's shown me your heart...I wish I could write it here, but I know He is using you here very powerfully, and you know it, too.  That's all I can say right now.

  23. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    I do not call knowing outside the confines of religion darkness! I see love and light in my daily life. I have little ones and family I adore and love fills my time. smile I feel for those who leave themselves behind all the wonders of the world, locked in my beliefs.

    I can prove that you do not believe what you profess to, but you would never take the test or believe the results! smile

    1. Jerami profile image59
      Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'd like to see that test if ya don't mind. You are probably right. Couldn't nun of us pass it but it might be educational??

    2. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You confessed, "I get to look at stuff your religion forbids you to know."  Hmmm. Now, what could that be?  You don't call that darkness when compared to Jesus' glorious light?  You don't call that worshiping God's creation more than God?  You don't call that loving what you're looking at more than the statutes of God?  The Bible says, if you are loving this life, you're going to lose it; if you hate this life, you will save it.  Why?  Because if you're living for Christ, you will be hated, but your reward is great in the kingdom of God.

      Look at it this way; if you reject Christ and keep your heart hardened, this world is the most heaven you will ever see.  If you are letting Christ live through you, this is the most hell you will ever see.

  24. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    OK here is the test.
    You need half a prozac tablet. This is for brain chemistry adjustment 48 hours after, so you do not feel depressed from the change in seratonin uptake, or the 48 hour syndrome.

    In a comfortable place with time and privacy, have a light meal with some sugar in it. Don't worry everything has sugar these days!

    With your doctor present if you are a religionist, {because the shock may give your sensibilities a decent kick in the what'sits
    and you could have an anxiety attack.)

    Take 130 Mgs of MMDA. Wait half an hour, and Hey Presto! Consciousness! empathy, and...... understanding your religiosity from the inside!
    Read some of Alexander and Anne Shulgin some time, there are hundreds of such medicines today!

    As I am fond of lightheartedly retorting to religious friends.
    "I bet you can't say that with a normal level of seratonin!" smile
    When the fear drops, so does the facade smile

  25. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    I feel that your childish "we small" universe "big" does not quite cut it as any sort of adult conversation! Both mark and myself do understand dimensions! lol

  26. Shaul Stein profile image59
    Shaul Steinposted 13 years ago

    After 7 days and 507 posts.

    The contention here seems to be going no place.
    Perhaps it is time to move on. smile

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It seems to me that if someone does not claim to be Catholic-Christian, Judeo-Christian or of Islam, they shouldn't be here?  earnestshub and Mark Knowles claim not to believe in "god".  At least the rest of the participants had a lot of valuable information to add to the purpose of this very active thread.  I don't see all the others still active, and I choose to leave earnestshub and Mark to discuss things they agree on...we got the whole deck playing, until the jokers showed up.

      1. Shaul Stein profile image59
        Shaul Steinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I would just stop responding to them if you are do getting anywhere.
        But maybe you are learning.
        I think they have made a choice.

  27. Shaul Stein profile image59
    Shaul Steinposted 13 years ago

    Tantrum is as his name says.

    Ignorant little child not understanding and throwing a fit because people do not tell him what he wants to hear.

    Just let him be in all his love of evil.

    You are tossing pearls before a pig!!!

    1. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        how childish of you kid !!! big_smile   didn't you understand after all this posts that i can care less what you say about me? That i'm only making fun of you ? You're hilarious! lol

  28. Shaul Stein profile image59
    Shaul Steinposted 13 years ago

    If you starve an idiot of attention, they soon go away.
    Or if they are really stupid, they will stay and starve to death!!!
    Ignore him like you would any foolish clown called Tantrum.

    1. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        It looks as you can never ignore me ,kid !!! you're always posting after me. !! It must be the law of attraction lol Good night !  ! lol

  29. Shaul Stein profile image59
    Shaul Steinposted 13 years ago

    Check mate

  30. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    This should be fun zealot to sock puppet zealot! lol

  31. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Then you may arrive at the conclusion that there is no god as I have smile

    1. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Who me? no way I know god for a fact , have got my proof ,became the Light myself.You will get your too. smile

  32. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    So Judah's daughter you own god, out of the hundreds of formal religions and thousands of other informal ones, only you are right. The odds of that being true are truly mind boggling! smile

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      God owns me!  He created me and paid the price for my sins.  I am a child of God, and you can be, too.  It's simple ~ you need to give Him dominion over your heart ~ come home.

  33. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    So Judah's daughter you own god, out of the hundreds of formal religions and thousands of other informal ones, only you are right. The odds of that being true are truly mind boggling! smile

  34. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Your "most high god" could walk under the carpet and not leave a bump! lol A nasty neurotic little god who kills everyone that Judah's daughter does not approve of from her selective readings from her crazed book of lies and contradictions. smile

  35. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Two fundies arguing over if the fairy has stripes or not, and it is hilarious! lol

    1. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Its sad so many ugly wars have and are happening because of this foolishness as to who the greater prophet or religion is.

      1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
        Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        If it wasn't a matter of eternal life and death, no one would really care ~~ did you ever think about that?  I hope someone will care enough to keep sharing the truth with you.  If not, this is all you get.  If it didn't get planted, there is no hope for you...unless you cry out to God for yourselves.  The choice has always been yours.  People know where we all stand, and we're all proud of where we stand.  At least we can agree on that one.  May God have mercy on your souls.

        Shaul ~ it's time to move on ~ no more Christian activity going on here, except for myself.  Thanks for your contribution and for all the Christians who contributed.

        1. mohitmisra profile image61
          mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I died became the Light or god and came back, I know eternity for myself  and I am the ETERNAL LIGHT.
          Now I work for god and he hates the fact that people fight stupidly over their religion or prophet.Why are they so blind cant they see there is only one god and all the prophets and religions are equally dear to him as they all lead to him.

          1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
            Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Your "light" lied to you.  Jesus said He is the Way, the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by Him.  Not all gods lead to God.  What you believe is a lie.  You may have been brought back by the powers of darkness to spread more lies, and/or you were brought back to find the light before it's too late.  A second chance.  I have no more to say.  I'm done ~ I'm outta here.

          2. myra636 profile image60
            myra636posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            and you are fighting with them so you should stop and think, that you add fuel to the fire

            1. mohitmisra profile image61
              mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Its my job to show the oneness of prophets and religions, to stop this fighting and I am qualified to do so.

              1. myra636 profile image60
                myra636posted 13 years agoin reply to this
                1. myra636 profile image60
                  myra636posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Have you every really listened to what the others are saying, have you read the three holy books

                  1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                    Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    I have ONE HOLY BOOK AND ONE HOLY GOD.  If you read three or five thousand, it doesn't matter to me.  Carry on with all the others here that believe as you do.  I don't listen to lies.  I know the real bill and counterfeit doesn't add any value at all.

                  2. mohitmisra profile image61
                    mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    I am an enlightened one , do you understand the meaning of that?
                    Do you think my knowledge is so little and that's the reason my work is ranked so high?
                    Please give me a break. smile

              2. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Then have your chats with others that are following your same path.  I don't follow your god or any other gods; only the One True God.  You guys go on and have a productive thread.  There's no need for me here anymore.

                1. mohitmisra profile image61
                  mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Do you think someone ranked over The Holy Bible is speaking of some false god and you are speaking of a true god? You are only fooling and trying to convince yourself.

                  1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                    Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    Need I be more clear?  I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

                  2. myra636 profile image60
                    myra636posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    What I am trying to say is that all three religions have there points, and that if they could only see that then and only then well they get along. It is like a child who does don't like her mother and her mother does not like her mother which is one who started the family with out one you could not have the other.

            2. Judah's Daughter profile image76
              Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              I fight for the Lord and only for the Lord.  At least someone stayed in here long enough to try ~ perhaps you'd care to take over?

              1. myra636 profile image60
                myra636posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                The funny thing is you are both fighting for the same god.

                1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                  Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  That's only because you don't know GOD.  We are not fighting for the same God.  Islam molests babies and little girls as child brides...you shall know them by their fruits.  Islam doesn't believe Jesus is God, so their God is not my God.

                  1. mohitmisra profile image61
                    mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    Islam teaches peace like Christianity does.

  36. myra636 profile image60
    myra636posted 13 years ago

    Ok I see that both of you have to win which makes no sense to me. If you all ways argue then you are never willing to learn. Some times you just need to stop and listen to each other.

  37. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    And so folks the christian zealot aint talkin to the muslim zealot cause he follows the wrong god!
    Any questions about the wars in the middle east anyone? lol

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The Bible tells me I don't have to converse with you or any other religious person that has a hardened heart.  I do so with hope, but when there appears to be no hope, I have no reason to continue to discuss the truth with you.  The Bible says I am casting pearls before swine.  There are many more passages that tell me if you don't hear, I am to go on to the next "city".  Also, I'm not to engage in foolish controversies.  Avoid men such as these...look it up yourself.  You seem to be reading the Bible ~ and what's the motive of your heart?  God only cares about the condition of your heart.  I am done speaking with you earestshub, and also video lost, tantrum, mohitmisra, and Mark Knowles.  If Jesus came tonight, you know exactly where you'd stand.  I'm not your Judge, but the Word of God is.  He will be the One you stand or fall before...I did my best.  Now, off to more productive ministry.

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        ... and typical of a fundamentalist you are condescending. You do not yet understand that you worship a monster created by a bunch of men to control the likes of you. You are just plain sad. Go back to bullying fools! smile

  38. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    And so now folks the christian zealot lists the names of the biblical offenders and pulls the plug. Reminds me of someone else a few weeks ago who could not handle any disussion either, and despite coming on like Sampson, wiggled of like a worm! smile

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why would anyone want to talk with you guys?  You accuse me of being full of hate?  I've only shared the truth with you, and how much more do you want to hear?  Or are you just enjoying this, feeling like demons do as they torment souls in hell?  Let me tell you something; I don't need to stay here and give you more to mock.  The saints need to be ministered to and loved.  They are His.  And if they are also enduring spirits like you, all the more they need to be edified and encouraged.  So, be gentlemen and chat with each other and either agree or disagree, for it all leads down the same path.  At least you have that in common.  One thing I can say is, I'm the only Christian voice left here, and obviously I had more patience with you guys than anyone else.  I can respectfully exit this thread now.

  39. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years ago

    Shiyloh says:
    If the 2 cannot agree, then how can they walk together?

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There is no fellowship between light and darkness.  That's the answer.

      1. myra636 profile image60
        myra636posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        There is no darkness only misunderstanding

      2. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
        My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Shiyloh says:
        Then in love, the light would then withdraw it's light.

  40. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    SO THERE! (stamps foot runs of to convert some poor dozey bastard)
    She'll be back folks! smile

  41. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years ago

    Shiyloh says:
    Love moves in wisdom, understanding, meekness, humility and compassion.
    At all times, and if it must correct, this too is done with love.
    If correction is not received, love moves on in love.

  42. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years ago

    Shiyloh says:
    Love does not boast.
    Love does not need approval from others.
    Love seeks no title.
    Love is needless.
    Love does not praise itself, rather let's another.

    1. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Its the truth- simple truth.A person who loves should not try to put down a highly ranked poet and on the contrary should accept truth for what it is and be nice to a spiritual writer devoting his energies in spreading god knowldge .

      1. myra636 profile image60
        myra636posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        at last I see someone making sense and not fighting

      2. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
        My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Shiyloh says:
        Love needs no defense and nothing can defend against love.

        1. mohitmisra profile image61
          mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          You decide to teach a person ranked over the Bible and Quran?
          Thats ego and not love.

  43. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    look folks the zealot muslim and the zealot christian are at it again! Swapping rubbish about pretend deities. Oh such fun!

    1. video lost profile image58
      video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Oldy,

      That's a dialogue for knowledge exchange, nothing else.

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Hey dogs breath, I enjoyed your ageist remark, you are showing your ignorance at the same time as your arrogance, a good show to watch! lol Swapping cut & paste! lol

        1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          earnestshub, why can't you at least be respectful ~ why must you be so ugly-spirited toward others?  You can say you don't agree, but you're acting very immaturely.

          1. tantrum profile image59
            tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I think videolost has been disrespectful as well. Maybe if he writes some hubs ,we could respect him more ? Don't you think ? smile

            1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
              Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              That was one of the most respectful posts you've made yet, Tantrum.  Everyone at least should be respectful in their disagreements in order to be respected by all viewers ~ in my most respectful opinion.

              1. tantrum profile image59
                tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Sometimes I'm respectful, sometimes, agressive... you should know  by now that I'm a joker !  lol an atheist joker, anway ! lol

          2. earnestshub profile image85
            earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I think the word ageist may be outside your understanding or is this "support my team time" and to hell with the original remark I retorted to. Now that was immature, and this loony is a sock puppet I have known under his other sock puppet name for a long time, so go read his constant insults throughout his posts. He doesn't even have the courage to put up a profile and be a real person. Don't call me ugly spirited, or anything else until you drop your ugly assumptive inclusive statements. smile

            1. video lost profile image58
              video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              This proves you are from the dark ages.

  44. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years ago

    Shiyloh says:
    Love needs no defense and nothing can defend against love.

    1. myra636 profile image60
      myra636posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you and on this note I say good night to all and be good to each other.

    2. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So you will teach the person ranked over Bibles and Qurans?
      Thats ego and not love. smile

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
        My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Shiyloh says:
        Love is the greatest teacher.
        Love needs no rank nor title nor recognition of men.
        Love teaches love and in love is always teaching love.

        1. mohitmisra profile image61
          mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I will not try and teach someone ranked over Bibles and Qurans that would be foolish ego on my path.

          1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
            My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Shiyloh says:
            Love is not a rank.

            1. mohitmisra profile image61
              mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Correct and someone trying to put down a person ranked so highly is love and not ego.

  45. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years ago

    Shiyloh says:
    Love points to love and not a rank or title.
    Love is meek and humble.
    Love is not putting down.
    Love is edifying towards something greater.

    1. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So a meek and humble person teaches the one raked over the Bible and Quran.Very nice philosophy. smile Grandmaster. smile

      1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
        My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Shiyloh says:
        Love teaches ones who can receive.
        Love gives light.

      2. Paraglider profile image89
        Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I think you mean 'ranked'. We only rake over hot coals wink

        1. mohitmisra profile image61
          mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          ha sorry wink Thank god there people like you have nice things to say when my work gets highly ranked, but I guess everyone cannot be so humble wink especially not grandmasters like Shiyloh.

          1. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
            My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Shiyloh says:
            Love is sincere in all it says.

            1. mohitmisra profile image61
              mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Yes grandmaster Shiyloh, spiritual poets need to learn from you. smile Your humbleness is astounding.

  46. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years ago

    Shiyloh says:
    If one can no longer be taught, they chose to stop receiving love.

  47. My Friend Shiyloh profile image60
    My Friend Shiylohposted 13 years ago

    "Thats ego and not love."....."is love and not ego"

    Shiyloh says:
    Love is not confused.

    1. mohitmisra profile image61
      mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes grandmaster,my books rankings are rubbish since you insist and I suppose the Bible and Quran are also nonsense and one must listen to you a meek and humble person. smile

  48. profile image0
    khmohsinposted 13 years ago

    Well this seems to be a long discussion. I have created hub about basics of Islam, give it a look and share your reviews.
    http://hubpages.com/hub/what-is-islam-undesrtand-basics

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If you are Muslim, you don't believe Jesus is Almighty God; therefore, the root of the faith is not of the same tree.  In God's church, Jesus is the atonement for sins (His death and resurrection).  You stated in your hub the following: "Thirst for religious knowledge and the pursuit of it atones for one’s previous sins.”  Need I say more?  And how do you justify the marrying of 20-year-old Muslim males to babies up to 10-year old girls, and polygamy at that ~ the sexual molestation "rights" you have?  This is not of God or His Word.

      A MUSLIM SHARES HIS EXPERIENCE WITH JESUS CHRIST!: http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/test … afshin.wmv

      1. mohitmisra profile image61
        mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Many Christians have converted to Islam. smile
        Be careful about cursing me using Jesus name as these things multiply and  bounce back very badly.You are using the name in vain and have no right to say in the name of Jesus as you have no connection with him.

        1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Their roots were not deep enough.  The word says that the ignorant will be led astray by false teachers.  It is the seed of truth that is planted, then is either eaten by the birds, choked by thorns, and so forth.  His people are destroyed for lack of knowledge (the Bible).  Those who are not grounded in the Bible fall victim, but if their heart is pure, God will bring them out.  Now, I have no more conversation with you, as I said before.  You are LOST as well; and enjoy it also, while you have the time.

          1. mohitmisra profile image61
            mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Remember my work is ranked over most editions of the Bible so if I am lost so was Jesus and all of humanity including you.
            Only a person who doesn't know god can say his prophet or religion is the best and only true one .Once you get to know god you stop talking like this . smile

      2. video lost profile image58
        video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        First of all tell me at which age the baby is called a baby ???

        Do you call 10 and half year old baby as well ???

        By the way if Westerners do not mind having more than one mistresses apart from their wives. Infact now a days these so called advanced and rich societies do not even marry and prefer to sleep for 6 months with one and another six months of the year with another woman. Then why do you mind on having more than one wives upto 4. Literally speaking, Polygamy and Islamic Hijab are the solutions for your problems of rape, adultry, incest and illegitimacy.

        1. mohitmisra profile image61
          mohitmisraposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Have either of you found god? So on what basis is your religion better than the other.?

        2. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          The Bible shows polygamy in the days that women lost their husbands and could not provide for themselves ~ there was a righteous reason.  Children were never married as babies or even 10 1/2 year olds!  Children are children!  The Bible calls adultry adultry and fornication fornication.  It's not condoned, as your child molestation is.  Child molestation is a crime in the U.S., which is not even a basis of Christianity, but MORALITY.  I will say, your religion is SICK and TWISTED to be condoning marriage of men to small little girls who haven't even reached puberty!!  WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!

          Matthew 18:6 "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

          1. Mark Knowles profile image59
            Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            That is some christian loving right there. I do like it when one religionist goes off on another one. And I think this aptly demonstrates Carrie Bradshaw's true personality.

            I wonder how long before "Judah's Daughter," has to hide behind yet another sock puppet.

            Thank you Carrie - for reminding my why I do not subscribe to your ridiculous belief system. You have pushed me away from it once again. I am sure Jesus is very proud.

            All your religion is good for is causing conflict.

            See above.

            1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
              Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              What, are you a child molester, too?  Wouldn't surprise me...you're known as a woman-hater, too.  How could I push you away from something you never accepted?  You keep saying I'm hiding?  lol ~~ it's all over my profile, the facts of why I changed profile names.  Carrie was a fictitious name, and yet you still claim my name as Carrie.  Yes, I have another profile under Carrie Bradshaw (from Sex and the City) ~ so, you can see why I would change my name when I started writing about my faith.  Carrie Bradshaw's profile is still being blessed and read regularly, and deals with false doctrine.  I don't owe you any explanation, but for the readers that are following along.  You expose your heart loudly, and so do I.  Standing up against child molestation is the right thing to do.  You, obviously, condone it.

              1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                LOL

                Accusing me of things I have never done and lying will not help persuade me that you are anything other than the ugly person you are showing yourself to be.

                It is going some way to persuading me that your religion is garbage that creates conflicts.

                Me pointing out that you attacking another person's religion for promoting "unacceptable practices," and at the same time defending the "unacceptable" practices that yours promotes as being "righteous" for the time is pretty hypocritical.

                But - it just goes to show that your ridiculous beliefs cause nothing but conflict.

                I hope you one day learn not to spread this much hatred and intolerance. And no - that does not mean I encourage child abuse.

                And I was not aware that Carrie Bradshaw was a personality stolen from a TV show - I thought it was a real person.

                1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                  Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  So now you know, that when I started making income from HubPages, as well as writing on spiritual matters, it was the right thing to do.  That profile is still getting daily reads, and addresses cults ~ so, thank God even the name Carrie Bradshaw is fictitious, so when the offended pray against her, she really doesn't exist lol  Glad to know you at least state you are not for child abuse and call it for what it is; all in the name of the Muslim religion.  That's my intolerance, not hatred.  For them to evangelize the world that they serve the one true God and yet this obvious abomination is allowed and blessed within their sacred doctrine, it is appauling!!

                  1. Mark Knowles profile image59
                    Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    Ah - so not all sins are the same? And pretending to be some one (lying) is not as bad as child abuse.

                    Marrying more than one wife is OK - but only when it is a righteous decision. Not when the Muslims say so.

                    And having sex with your son is OK - as long as there are no other males around and they need feeding (righteous).

                    And accusing me of something I would not do is also OK. (Attacking non believers is righteous).

                    Interesting moral code you have. Quite honestly - it is ugly, insulting people like you who persuaded me that there is no god.

                    Thank you. I appreciate it.

          2. video lost profile image58
            video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Tell me when children get puberty both male and female ???

            1. video lost profile image58
              video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Judah Daughter,

              You forgot to answer my above question for discussing the allegation of child molestation

              1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
                Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I don't talk to child molesters.

                1. video lost profile image58
                  video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  But i neither molested a child nor am i allowed

                  1. video lost profile image58
                    video lostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    Judah Daughter,

                    If you have the courage to talk on that topic then answer my question "Tell me when children get puberty both male and female ???

  49. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Hey sock puppet! You still full of religious hate eh?

  50. earnestshub profile image85
    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    The same way you justify rape and murder in your book!

    1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
      Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Earnestshub, you are LOST and there is no more conversation with you.  You refuse to understand the things of God.  I will tell you that God uses Satan to execute His wrath.  These practices are not condoned in the grace of God.  If you don't believe; you don't believe.  The wisdom of God is foolishness to man and your spiritual eyes are blinded by the god of this world.  Enjoy it while you can.

      1. earnestshub profile image85
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        As usual you have absolutely nothing except blind faith in a hateful messed up deity from a book of lies. your "holier than thou" remarks make good comedy!
        I do not need a hate filled sky fairy, and nor does this planet or it's occupants. You are ignorant of the sciences, medicine and self. I feel sorry for you.

        1. Judah's Daughter profile image76
          Judah's Daughterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I have not shown any hate toward you, only rebuke.  You, on the other hand, openly show your hatred of God and His children, which proves God's word is true.

          1. earnestshub profile image85
            earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            See you should learn to read. Your posts are riddled with hate and intolerance, but you do not have to say it yourself, you quote it from your crazed book, that way it is "god" that makes all the threats of eternal damnation and horrible death for those who don't agree with you. Gutless! smile

 
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