Hating Scripture
- Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago
0 - Scott.Lifeposted 15 years ago0
- lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago0
- lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago0
@ randy
Is the cosmic joke
- Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago0
Oh yea...the old loping of the head gig for vamps. Forgot about that one...oh tantrum I have a sword come here! lmao
And oooo well lynn'es daughter hurry up and get home so Lynne can get to bed
hehehe - lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago0
As they say great minds think alike but in our case great perverted minds think a like
- Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago0
On that wondeful thought from tantrum *sticks tongue out at Tantrum*
I am off to bed but will return tomorrow because I forgot hubby had to work tomorrow then get the rest of the week off for leave and our anniversary Then I will stop talking to you about it.
So you brought up that leaving weapons out for children to be around is stupid and I told you about my experience with weapons...any comments...because I had my own from 5 years old on up. http://hubpages.com/forum/post/reply/380362I would like to jump in and answer this if you don't mind Randy
God had already given man free will. What good is free will if God was going to decide for man?
In other words, what good is free will without choices?
Adam had a choice of two trees not just one. The tree of knowledge and the tree of life. Adam chose knowledge over life.
- lynnechandlerposted 15 years ago0
getitrite gotirite!
some may hate it but most people believes on the scriptures and the belief that it has a purpose and wants to say something. Like what most Christians do.
How would anyone on the planet have ever heard of Jesus or his ministry, what he did for us if nobody had used scripture to tell about it? what is the use of the Bible if not to share it as well with others?
what would have happened if the disciples had thought that? Jesus himself taught through scripture. He taught through parables, those were his words which we read in the Bible. what is so wrong with sharing the words Jesus himself used? I don't get it.
the Bible is Jesus walking among us today. In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, the word was God.
There I just made the perfect example of what I am trying to say here.
I made the statement "The Bible is Jesus..." then I backed why I believe that with the scripture which supports it. It brings what I said to life. It illustrates the truth behind my statement. Whether someone believes that or not is up to them.
we can share about Gods love, we can share our own personal experiences without quoting the exact scripture to back up our beliefs, but it is when we apply scripture what God says about it, that God reveals himself to those we speak to. It is fine to tell somebody about God. But what is so wrong in letting God tell somebody about himself as well?
Not all scripture but only scripture as it pertains to what it is we are talking about. Whether it is a personal belief, story about ourselves or whatever the topic of dicussion might be.
why does anyone read the Bible?
To find truth? To grow in our faith? Both right? Is it only for ourselves then? Or do we grow, do we learn truth to share it? The good news was not given to just a few to keep to themselves. They shared their knowledge of it, of him, and thank God for that or we would of been in a world of trouble.
I am getting down off my soap box now. whew! that wore me out! lol sorry if it was a little long. I saw some others on here long in length so I went for it.very true eaglekiwi
Scott r u convinced yet?
You only had to check the archives!!!
You started this thread to prove me wrong when I said that any one who will declare faith in jesus and bible will receive a certain kind of response.
Mind you this thread is quite polite compared to some others. But there is still room for popcorn and peanut gallery to be entertained. I find the ridicule cruel. Wish sincere believers like atomswifey would just stop responding.
The danger is when a Christian newbie uses the same approach they take in their local society which is pro-christian or pro-bible. Atomswifey (and I when I just came on and perhaps still do a little) will be bashed over the head and ridiculed once we state a biblical authority without qualifying it for the non-believer. One cant keep apologising. At some point you just have to declare the word.
It demonstrates insensitivity on both sides. Mark Knowles is on a sabbatical from here (dont think the exile will last) but those who have been around will know that there are brilliant atheists who will thunder at any claim for biblical authority.
Although I am an evangelist I prefer to win with honey instead of vinegar so I usually back down from debates that are full of mutual cussing.
I am yet to be convinced BTW that Christianity borrowed trinity from other religions of Ancient Near East such as the Isis-osiris-Horus Egyptian deities. But there are certainly parallels.
Cross cultural evangelism is a challenge both in real life and over the internet. It requires training and contextualisation. We must not apologise for the gospel, we need to witness to all nations, all people groups, all forums.Ok I can uunderstand that. But how do you know what anyone on here to make those kinds of judegments? In other words, you said "those that have "displayed" an inability to internalize it and practice it themselves"
How do you know what they "internalized" about it and if they practice it?
They could very well have and do and thats why they feel justified to quote it. Plus doesn't the Bible say we are to? I mean, I have read in Ephesians 6 where it does I believe say that.
I am trying to understand here Scott, really I am. I just see some of you criticising people for quoting scripture, and I do not understand that. If I were to opt to quote scripture in the manner you had described in length that is, then you would judge me in the same way, and that to me is not fair. Being that you do not know me personally to judge me like that.
right? Or am I missing something here? lol
I don't know
my head is spinning now from this lol
I prefer to 'test the fruits' when it comes to any knowledge imparted on a public forum, so its not the word that is on trial,but the actions of those promoting it.
I am not an evangelist and my mission field has been my family.
Their salvation is between God and themselves, (actually they all hold various theories) but I know this much ,they havent committed any crimes, two have jobs, one still in college ,they respect me, care and love me. They all have good reputations.
They have honored me by their actions
I just dont understand why some believers feel the need to quote scripture , do they think people cant find it for themselves?? or dont have voices to ask -if that is what they want to know.
Respect people and you will have respect shown back to you
P.S Anyone want cakeHow do you "test" those fruits? We are to test the spirits not fruits eagle. Fruits we can see. And how do we test the spirits? Through Gods Word.
The Bible does not lie. And faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
We are called to minister the gospel. If men had chosen not to do so, you yourself would have no knowledge of it. I just can't see where some of you as believers would be so critical of other believers spreading Gods word.
Have you read Ephesians 6?
Not everyone will agree with Gods Word, but there are some that will and do. This ia an internet forum. There are more than just us reading here.
I am not condoning the actions of everyone on here or those who have quoted scripture. I am just trying to illustrate my point of view on it as a whole.
Just like I explained to scott, we cannot see nor do we know(most often) the people we come into contact with here. So how can you judge anyone you do not know so harshly? I am only seeing one unbeliever agreeing with you. Now I know there are probably others that would not want to see Gods Word at all on here, but don't you find that a bit odd, to say the least? That the ones who are against someone using it, are the ones who say they believe in it?
I don't know this is all just an observation from my stand point. I am new here and just don't get it.
But I am off now to other forum topics.
I will say this though it is my belief that, we are to be full of the gospel. Write it on our hearts. It is our shield, our helmet of salvation, we are to stand on it. Ephesians 6 is a good read by the way
PeaceChristians need to understand first and foremost that whenever they see the word 'Religion' does not imply they are the star guests....that irritates me so I can imagine how it must get up the nostrils of unbelievers.
It is not only arrogant it is unscriptural.
Jesus was found among many people ,he knew how to live in the world.
The keyword is Wisdom and common sense.
For some strange reason when people become Christians,they act so heavenly minded they are are of no earthly use!
Do you honestly think Christ wants us to be so different ,no one wants to be around us ? I dont believe that for a second.
No we are to be the light ,or the salt of the earth, not harsh ,loud, obnoxious or bitter like vinegar.
Kia kaha stay strong
Kia Mananwa Stay determined.
- Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago0
- Scott.Lifeposted 15 years ago0
I think you are comparing apples and oranges there Randy. Sorry but I do.
See, Gone with the Wind is a fictional book. we know it was a fictional story as the author wrote it for that purpose to entertain only and not to educate about the south. Where the Bible is a historical and factual documentation of the history of the Jews, battles they fought in, wars they won and lost etc. that is how it's authors wrote it, as a series of books of non-fiction compiled together with the purpose to educate future generations.
You read the letters of George Washington and what he says about his life, and this country you believe them right? So how then is the Bible so different or less factual or harder to believe? As it was not written from a re-call of history. The stories about the men who wrote it, God, his son Jesus and his disciples were written to make history. From the first hand accounts of the men who wrote the books within it about themselves.
But whatever...
Happy time!
@ Randy
I never said the Bible was originally written in Greek. I just used the current version that exists and told you that logic is in it. In fact logic and reasoning is all over the Old and New Testaments. God even says "Come now, let us argue together about this"...so what man. He does NOT answer to us or to you Randy.
So the "pastor" is still clueless.
Obviously you are making a giant issue over my user name and I told you where it came from, it's just a promise from God in a passage that can be applied to anyone who believes it and yet, YOU are trying to make it seem like I think it's special just for me.
I said anyone can use it and that is true. Anyone can use any promise from the scripture as a user name....what business is that of yours ?? NONE-ZERO.
I could have said
"dancelikedavid"
"salvationandhope"
"strengthandhonor"
"safetyandpeace"
"comforterfriend"
WHO CARES ???
I happen to sit in the stillness and quietness for hours on end...so I like it.I need no credibility help, nor would I commercialize GOD.
Sorry the user name bothers you so.
I think you might be the 2nd person....the 1st to really beat the drum about it though.The lady said take it or leave it.
If thats the choices Im leavin it
Scott for what its worth I didnt feel challenged or picked on by your thread.
And its very ,manipulative really to make a statement then , say a response is that way because of such n such ...
Think I need some fresh airGender is male. Last time I checked
On another day when the dust has settled perhaps you will explain to me how on earth we arrived here. And when you get to know me better you will laugh for having written above.
"Label and dictate to"
I'm just another pilgrim. Albeit one who feels very deeply. thats why i paint and sometimes try to write. And believe the world should love god and fellowmen more. Will stubbornly defend my position too, but open to compromise, since i could very well be clouded by my perspective.
BTW did u see my comment about my muslim guide? Just another angle on the dictator.
I'm too much of a coward to do the things you accuse me of. I'd rather kiss and make up than fight any day. Just ask my wife.
Go Glory girl
Scott similar to your mates in Middle East who had to tone down real quickly, I think the real problem is that zealous people of whatever faith find it difficult to adjust strategies for different context even when they know better.
Those of us who have been formally trained in missions are usually able to pick up on the problems earlier.
Personally we are caught in a catch 22. If we dont witness we betray our faith. if we witness we declare the gospel hence the Bible.
This may sound like a joke but in my recent visit to egypt there were times my Muslim guide with whom i developed a great relationship, had to beg me to share my religious perspective on some issues. Why? Thanks to my experience on Hubpages (and my formal training in Theology) I was more keen to discuss common ground than light fires in the short time I had. I freely discussed Torah and Moses. But tried to avoid anything controversial. He noticed and kept telling me it was OK. But I knew it was better to just be a Christian than to preach at that time. I fell in love with Egypt and developed a great respect for Islam. If I ever become a Muslim I would say it was because of our great friendship. I am writing hubs on Egypt so I will share the stories. (Shameless hub promotion)Glendon, AW got back what she put out. Her statements were of the "My way or the highway" type.
I believe god is a man made concept.
Most religionists post to garner support for their own faith.
Many who do not believe have already been down the path of religion.
Followers of religion do so because the belief in religious fear is passed to them as children before they are old enough to start thinking for themselves.
Yes to religion causes war and genocide.
Yes pity all humans not have one view so we don't fight over religion and politics. But not so. Best we can do is respect diversity. And keep communicating until we arrive at God.
Million dollar question? Whose God? Christian. Islam. Jew. Indian. Chinese.
I say one god of all is found in bible.
Here we go again
Oh Спасибо хорошо. Thank you, many ladies do
They don't have enough resources for it yet. Either way, even if they go international, the first extra language is likely to be Hindi.
earnest where do u find these guys?
He calculated fall of Nixon. Well what can i say. coincidence or prophecy? Dunno. Would have to see fruits in addition to prediction.
He also reckoned the world was goin down in 1973!
That is one major difficulty for religion, it is full of people who read something or were told to believe something..... from the bible.
It says what people want it to say as do all religious tomes.- thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years ago0
This is so funny! The only ones chasing myths are drongos like you who believe in invisible sky fairies!
Nothing brave about a bunch of bible thumping loons spouting their "Truth"
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