Death. Scared? no religion here please.

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   lyricsingrayposted 14 years ago

   Are you scared of dying?
   
   What will it be like?
   
   Do you just accept it's inevitable?
   
   When do you think it will happen?
   
   This was not opened for religious purposes.  Please try and refrain from debates about no fear because.........thanks
   
   Okay back to death, I don't fear it but I don't think of it much and can't believe I'm alive today.  So I don't know when hmmmmm...........
   
   and you ? 

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I do not fear death. I've come to realization for the reason of my death and I understand why I will die. How ever, it leaves me with a disappointing thought, when I do think about it, because my death isn't going to be cause by my action, but from the effect of others.

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         lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         good point cagsil, thanks

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         Rochelle Frankposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well, if you just change your ways and try to live  your life as a  completely despicable, hateful scumbag, everyone will be happy.

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            Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well, you put it interesting to say the least Rochelle. Thank you for your input.

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      if i think about everything suddenly coming to a standstill - going black, never being able to see those that i love dearly ever again, hell yeah it's scary. i would probably fight it every step of the way, regardless of how. ;_;

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      Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      sooooooooo this may sound real stupid. BUT I ate these mushrooms once, and im in no way scared of dying. I know it will happen. I just hope to have time to get my children ready to take care of themselves.

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         Ivorwenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hope those mushrooms weren't a recent thing, if you feared they were poisonous.

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            Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            ummmmm bout 11 years ago, or so. they were poisonous, im sure. i got lucky, grew up, and never did that again. still, im not scared of dying for me, one bit. i do worry about those left.

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      aguasilverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sometimes I look forward to death, not because I don't like life, but simply because I don't like the world I live in. I would prefer to see both my children grow and mature, and to be here for them as they grow up, to grow into an old age with my wife and to be some use to younger people, maybe offer them the wisdom that age can bring.
      
      I agree with Rayalternately:
      
      It's being set on fire, drowned, stabbed, (etc.) that we're so scared of.... exceptI don't do horror movies!

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      drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      always so serious, lyrics
      
      it is one of those things that's a matter of fact. I think I go in cycles..I hate it, I embrace it, I respect it, I laugh at it, I'm scared to death of it, I accept it, I deny it...depends on the mood.

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      karmic tiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      We do not die-it is an illusion!
      Every night that we sleep and leave our physical body can be called a mini-death, it is nothing to fear. Our perception of death is narrow, one-sided and coated with emotion. It is an interruption of physical life, whether for a few hours or an end to that particular physical life. When the human body is beyond use or has completed its purpose we discard it and the silver cord connecting the physical and non-physical bodies is broken. The non-physicals do not see it as death like we do.
      
      Death comes to us all, and we have all experienced it many times before.
      Mostly it’s just like bread popping out of a toaster!
      
      I have been asked which is better-burial or cremation, and the reply is usually it makes little difference.
      
      However some points to consider:  Cremation is cleaner greener and cheaper. It leaves no place for loved ones to go and sit at, being miserable, and tend to, for years to come. They will move on with life more quickly (if they understand these things they will not have anything like the problems with death that most have). Should they have difficulty letting go they can always keep the ashes in an urn until a later date when they are ready to let go.
      Many dislike the thought of rotting, and fire is a clean way to transmute energy. Fears of burial alive concern many, sometimes due to past life situations where it was common. The Victorians often had bells attached to string from the coffin such was the fear of being buried alive. Graveyards had a night watchmen-this is where the term graveyard shift came from.
      
      Many cultures favour fire.
      
      From the non-physical perspective, I have heard of cases (from projectors who have seen while flying over graveyards) of spirits pulling/coaxing relatives from their fresh grave-as they appear stuck there through fears, weakness of energies or similar. I think this is very rare- not the norm.
      
      After death with illness many need to recuperate for varying lengths of time.
      By example my own Mother needed several weeks (double pneumonia) and Nan in law a similar time (senile dementia).
      After this they were able to contact us easily and we could sense/feel the strength of energies improve over time. I mentioned elsewhere that we go through processes after death -likened to a space rocket that drops it’s used up fuel tanks; we must drop the denser physical energies we are so used to. Some do it easily and quickly. An average would be 4 to7 days but some take many years.
      It will depend on things like ones energetic ability, material things like greed, wealth, unfinished business, emotions like jealousy hate, inability to let go.
      These are not “trapped souls” as often described, but do not realise they are holding themselves close to our dimension.
      It is a very good reason why we should also let “them” go too, as seeing our pain they will stay close and hurt too. An example – my Father has been close since his death in- 1966 -it is now sep. 2008.  While the wife’s Father (Died 1987) Communicates far less often as he is busy studying further away.
      (A university- of sorts, known as “I”).
      Denser physical energies hold us down in the nearer dimensions after death like too much ballast on an air balloon.
      I do not fully understand yet all this talk of white light, and mediums helping stuck souls “cross over”-it seems like ego and rubbish. I do know we can send them balanced energies which help, and have done so. (Penta/Reiki).
      
      Also Helpers (Spirit guides) use our energies as they are unable to produce such dense energies themselves. It is why we rarely see or even have contact with them (higher vibration- off our radar so to say).
      I heard of one case where a guy after death was so attached to his beloved classic car he stayed with it -and its new owners. When he saw they were not caring for it in the manner he did, he created all sorts of problems in their lives, out of anger!
      Death does not suddenly enlighten you and give knowledge or make you a nicer person. We must do that ourselves. Many dead persons (non-physicals) understand far less than me, some make it there business and seek to learn, as I do. Be aware as I’ve said before of owning possessions/ belonging of the deceased.  In extreme /rare cases some have been known to stay around for 3 or 400 years in the intermissive period between lives. Usually assistance will come from helpers higher up long before then, but these guys are busy and understaffed. Not enough of us are evolving fast enough to those levels to assist.
      
      Back to Funerals: Most will attend their own, surveying all that occurs.
      My wife saw her father standing at the foot of his coffin for example. 
      This was a “farewell projection”- letting her know he was fine.
      My Mother had a great laugh at hers.   Flowers may help. Energies from them can be used and assist the transition. I suspect this was known years ago and why the tradition started. After this they usually hang around their homes or workplaces or with family (Or classic cars etc.).
      Incidentally I work with a guy who does so much overtime he visits work in his sleep (projections) of course he has no idea – he may have difficulties when he passes.  Sometimes the deceased try to help (or otherwise) or give you signs they are there (see psychic signals).
      
      Examples again; My Mum said she didn’t like what the new Indian family had done to “her” house, eventually stopped going.  Usually we are met by other relatives/friends who show us the ropes.
      My wife is used to spirits of patients hanging around her place of work, and sometimes communicates with them and them with her. Having just started work at a new nursing home she encountered an angry spirit named “Bert” (05/11/08) and the staff there shocked then told of him, an ex resident.
      Signs can be anything though as said before not everything is a sign, re –read other notes.  Lights/TV flicker, shadows smells.  Bad things = bad company, but no need to fear.
      
      Note that death is always assisted by helpers that specialize in handling desomas.
      Most races still do not confront death, but leave it to Hospitals, covering the cadaver with a white sheet.
      
      We will go through at some point three desomas or deaths – leaving the physical body (we do this thousands of times in our cycle of lives here).
      Eventually we leave our psychosoma (non-physical body)  and ultimately become a free consciousness in the mental dimensions.
      Each death actually consists of a kind of rebirth of the consciousness in another more evolved dimension.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      * The following is from the collection of non-physical consciousnesses’ that call themselves “Abraham”. Their view of death.
      
      * “Death is a withdrawal of consciousness. It's like taking attention from
      here and putting it there”.
      
      *“We're not wanting to be insensitive to what so many of you are feeling, but we are very much wanting you to put this death thing in the proper
      perspective:  You are all going to die!  Except there is no death!
      You're all going to make your transition into Non-Physical. It is time to stop making your transition into Non-Physical sound like a subject that is uncomfortable, and begin acknowledging that it is something that happens to everyone.
      This death thing is so misunderstood that you use it to torture yourself never-endingly and just absolutely unnecessarily. There are those who feel such fulfilment of life and such Connection to Source Energy, who understand that there is no separation between what is physical and Non-Physical; who understand that there is not even a lapse in consciousness, that "death" is a matter of closing one's eyes in this dimension and literally opening one's eyes in the other dimension. And that, truly, is how all death is, no matter how it looks, up to that point. The re-emergence into Source Energy is always a delightful thing.
      
      *Sometimes someone will be sick, and a daughter or someone who loves a sick person will say, "Abraham, I'm wanting to help this person." And we say, just hold the image of them in a place of utter Well-being, and trust that through the path of least resistance, either they will recover and Well-being will be restored here, or they will withdraw and Well-being will be restored there. But in either case, whether they stay or whether they have what you call death experience, the Well-being is always restored. Whether it is someone who has just been bipping along in physical experience who has been meditating, who knows the sweetness of Connection on a day-to-day basis, who says, "Ah, this life experience has been so wonderful and I think I will now turn my attention to another aspect of my life experience," closes their eyes as they put themselves in the bed, make the transition, and they are discovered as having made their transition in the night. Or whether they have some violent experience, where at the gun of an enemy, or the gun of someone violent, or a car crash they make their transition. As they make their transition, ultimately it is still the same experience.
      
      *Make fun of death. We are as dead as it gets, and we are fully aware of this joyous experience. We are with you every time you allow it. We are in every singing bird and in every joyful child. We are part of every delicious pulsing in your environment. We are not dead, and neither will you ever be! You will just get up, one day, and get out of the movie.
      
      *The best reason to make your transition into Nonphysical is not because physical is miserable. The best reason to make your transition into Nonphysical is that you have a sense of completion--and you are looking for another vantage point.

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No not scared ,cannot die.
      Will go home .

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         mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         "Death comes to you in the middle of the night,
         Or sweeps you away in broad day light.
         
         "This being mans biggest doubt,
         Death is not to be talked about."
         
         I like this topic.

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      DogSiDaedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Of course you have to accept it, but I try not to dwell on it. Still young and life is to be lived

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      Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What will it be like?... Painful to a point, once the body reaches a certain point it shuts off the pain, so once the pain stops and you know it is time, it probably wont be so bad...
      
      When... at the end of my lifetime... lol ... For me personally... with the way I live my life, it could be any second.
      
      I know you want to keep religion out of it, but I can't seperate my beliefs.. from me... But I can keep it to the logical side... My logic states: 50/50 chance there is a God and an afterlife... 50 percent chance there is nothing after this, just nothingness... which by my logic means no memories of life or living, no regrets, no missing my kids, no regretting not being able to be with them and so on... nothing doesn't scare me.
      
      On the religious side I think I have lived a decent life, I'm no saint by any means but if there is something after, something along the lines of the Christians beliefs, then I think I will do ok in the judgement so no real worries there for me either.
      
      If what comes after is what my logic has lead me to believe then I'll be a very happy whatever I am after my human lifetime ends.
      
      Scared? a little... but it is the same kind of scared you have when your on a roller coaster, the anticipation of the plummet... the holding your breath and just getting ready to drop down the track after that first big climb... or maybe a better way of saying that is the thrill I get everytime I get on my bike, I never know that I'll make it to the place I intend, but when I get there, all I remember is the exhilerating ride that got me there.
      
      Honestly there have been many times when I have found my life SOOO incredibly boring, predictable and mundane that all I wanted was for it to end, just so I could see what came next, if anything... But I'm a patient man, the end will come sooner or later and when it does we shall see, or not as the case may be...
      
      I must state however that when the day comes I for one believe   ... Peace and good things...

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       Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I'm not afraid to die. Of course it is inevitable. Actually what scares me more is growing so old that I rely on others for care, or worse becoming incapacitated to the point where I can't care for myself at all.
       I don't know what death will be like, though I have been close to it on more than one occasion. I have an image of just walking deep into the woods sitting back against a tree and falling off to sleep while the sun sets over the horizon, at least that's how I would like to die. Unfortunately, unless we are willing to commit suicide we don't get the choice and well, surprises are always fun!

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       quietnessandtrustposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I die everyday...wake up in the morning...no problem.
       
       To me, sleep and death are one in the same and I shall wake up from both of them.

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          Light and Loveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I like this, and I agree with it too!

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   cally2posted 14 years ago

   Its just nature's way of telling you to

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   awareposted 14 years ago

   i hope in metamorphosis. does a caterpillar fear becoming a butterfly?

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   awareposted 14 years ago

   i hope to leave this stage of life openminded and ready for anything

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   Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

   I think a fear of the unknown is perfectly normal - I have never died before so - I am not scared - seeing as I have no choice in the matter. But there is a level of apprehension doing something I have never done before.

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   cally2posted 14 years ago

   I can't say I'm scared but I'm not really looking forward to it. Bit nervous perhaps. Must be good though because no-one ever comes back

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   I think it's inevitable, unavoidable.
   So, I'll wait for it.
   
   I'm sure it's going to be a Hell of a trip !

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      lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      

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   caravalhophotoposted 14 years ago

   Not afraid of dying more of afraid of how.  Like most, don't want pain, don't really want to die of "old age", hopefully it will be quick and in my sleep.
   
   It is like taxes...inevitable!
   
   Hopefully wont happen for a long time...enjoying my life, I'm very happy.
   
   Actually, pretty amazed I made it out of my 20's...that was a crazy, drug induced decade.

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   myownworldposted 14 years ago

   I don't fear anything beyond my control. Pointless exercise. I just live in the present moment. Makes life much simpler.....and easier to smile and just be content.

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    awareposted 14 years ago

    i aint scared to say it im afraid . i work highrise buildings its fear that keeps you alive. i think even in death this will apply

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    fear? some longing? some  Its a big mystery to me.  Sometimes when tired to pieces I really hope it is just a long, long rest we all need.

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    awareposted 14 years ago

    n e r d . nobody ever really dies . believe that? if not. for you its almost over now

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       lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       

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       Light and Loveposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       That's awesome!  And, I do believe that!

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    Black Lillyposted 14 years ago

    That feeling is not fear. It's some kind of excitement.
    I look forward to it as if it was coming home from a long long journey, but at the same time it's like you never know when your journey will end.

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    TimTurnerposted 14 years ago

    Death is just a metamorphosis like someone else said so no reason to be scared

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    Dale Mazurekposted 14 years ago

    I guess Im not really scared of death but more scared of what im leaving behind. 
    
    Im scared to not be able to spend time with my best friend who by the way is my wife.
    
    Im scared I wont be able to go fishing with my boys and so forth.
    
    So thats what I am scared of more than actually dyeing.

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    MikeNVposted 14 years ago

    How will you know you are dead?
    
    No point in fearing something like that.

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    Rayalternatelyposted 14 years ago

    I think we fear the methods more than the actual act. To be dead is either great if you're religious or irrelevant if you're not, so there's nothing to fear there.
    
    It's being set on fire, drowned, stabbed, (etc.) that we're so scared of; hence the huge market for horror movies.

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well said Rayalternately.

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    Thinking of dying doesn't bother me, I like to finish things. When I was 11 or 12, I dreamed there were men chasing me, no idea why these strange adults wanted to kill me, but they kept chasing me higher and higher in a building until I reached the roof. They threw me off, I landed and died but the dying was wonderful. Everything faded to gray then "winked out", there was total peace. I was in a great mood for days afterward.
    
    Also, once someone was in my house, I was alone but I was exhausted and already in bed. (I was an adult when this happened.) I remember quietly leaning a little further onto my stomach so that if they came in and stabbed or shot me, I wouldn't have to see it coming because I was too tired. I didn't want to have to go through all the fear and fighting it would take since I probably would end up dead anyway.

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    Ivorwenposted 14 years ago

    me too.  It is the ones left behind, and the ways one might go that bother me.  Not death itself.

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       Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       yup.
       what are you doing up now? how was thanksgiving?

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    cheaptrickposted 14 years ago

    I would want a slow drawn out death.I believe that understanding the experience as it happens would erase the fear.When it is finished one of two things will happen.Either every thing will end or something else will take place.It will be interesting to see what that is...

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       Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       good answer

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       Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Be sure to keep the result to yourself... I'm just saying

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          cheaptrickposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Hello Pearldiver,I couldn't figure you out until I took a second look at your home page.Now its clear.You are a KIWI and just like the FRUIT your rough and nasty on the outside Green and slimy on the inside.Your narcissistic profile portrays you as an intelligent and caring man but judging by your continued attacks you are a Hypocrite,arrogant and self absorbed,a Legend in your own mind small as it is.I wont waste my time replying to your silly little jibes again.by the way,I met a few KIWI's who volunteered in Vietnam,bunch of little frightened Boys who only did one thing well,RUN.much like you they were very brave with there Talk but no use at all in a fire fight.
          I'm just sayin..

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    death is such a final time
    in fact no time at all
    for when you know your numbers up
    it's written on the wall
    to die is no great loss I feel
    and when death's in the air
    the only wish upon my death
    is that I am not there!

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    ddsurfscaposted 14 years ago

    Death is only a transition to another state, as is birth.  Nothing to fear, you will see, next thing you know you are somewhere else....

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    Himitsu Shugishaposted 14 years ago

    I don't really fear death. I'm truly more concerned about not being able to accomplish everything I want to do in life before I die.

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    cheaptrickposted 14 years ago

    "Death smiles at us all and all a man can do is smile back".

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    spartanking1978posted 14 years ago

    Technically speaking, we are not really alive.
    
    All these bits running around trying to comprehend death...its funny to me. Even if a bit is included in an array of bytes, that one bit still functions as one bit.

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    h.a.borcichposted 14 years ago

    I don't think I am afraid of dying, anymore. In 2007 when I fought so hard for my life, I thought death would be the worst outcome of my illness.
    Now I think I fear not really living more than death. By that I mean "sucking air while in perpetual pain" would not be living at all. I am more afraid of suffering than death.

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    Stimpposted 14 years ago

    I did not fight for my life as in illness, THAT is what I would be most afraid of.  Not the death itself.
    
    If you are afraid of being stabbed, shot, whatever....don't fear that.  I've been in a couple of situations where people thought they saw me die....your mind has a wonderful way of only letting you deal with what you can handle.  I do NOT remember the accidents, the pain, the chaos or the drama....I only "come back into the picture" and fully remember the point in which my mind could handle it.  So, that kind of stuff I don't fear, simply because I know my mind will take over for my physical body and deal with it.

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    prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago

    Hi PD< well, it is inevitable, and it is like a thief in the night they say, unless you have a long sickness, it may take us by surprise,
    
    I havent thought about whether I am scared or not, a little bit yes. I am scared of sickness and slow death....more than dying itself..

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    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    Hi Maita,
    You have many more fields to gallop through yet.
    
    Death can only be like Astral Planing, but without the journey back. I'm sure you will see the event as your energy leaves, so have your ticket ready, for the flight of a lifetime

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    wyanjenposted 14 years ago

    I'm not afraid of death at all.
    
    I get upset though about the thought of the folks I would leave behind. I know what it is like to lose somebody that you really depend on.

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    megs78posted 14 years ago

    I can honestly say I am not afraid to die as I am sitting here right now at this moment.  However, that may drastically change once death is knocking on my door and imminent. 
    
    We just don't know what will happen or how we will feel before we get close to it.  For me, curiosity about the 'other side' is a big reason why  I am not so frightened, but who knows, it may change.  And too, I think I would be more sad to leave behind my kids and family, and sometimes that gets me a little sad, but not afraid, so to speak.
    
    BUT, I am terribly afraid of death when it comes to my children and loved ones, because I don't ever want to live without them.  I would prefer to die in their place.  Not as a heroic 'give my life for yours' kind of thing, but more a selfish thing so I don't have to endure life without them.

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    drej2522posted 14 years ago

    The only fear I have is the potential fear the moment it happens

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    maudine_05posted 14 years ago

    Not afraid as this will eventually happen to all people at least Im not the only one and thats comforting enough,but, not ready yet,since I have small kids which I don't wanna leave behind.

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    tony0724posted 14 years ago

    I really do not have any say in the matter so I just go with the inevitable . Quite frankly I think most people are scared of living !

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       lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       so true

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    Denno66posted 14 years ago

    No sense getting worried about something over which you have no reasonable control.

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    awareposted 14 years ago

    going in accepting inevitability not knowing exactly what that is. ? not me im going in ready to fight,

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    lorlie6posted 14 years ago

    The only thing I fear about death is the concept of nothingness.  Since man can't experience his nonexistence, he is able to only watch death occur to others, left with imaginings that can truly terrify.

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    wesleyacarterposted 14 years ago

    why would i rely on the word of someone who has never died before?
    
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    why would you ever want to think about death? seems like a distracting thing.

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    goldenpathposted 14 years ago

    Sure it's a scary thing!  To not admit so is to be at least a little bit prideful.  It is the culmination of all our hope.  The foundation of our existence is the hope to continue.  Since the after affects of death cannot be proven it is obviously frightening to the individual.
    
    Are you proud of me?  I did that without adding any religion.

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    I came to grips with death a long time ago...seriosly when I was a kid I stopped fearing death because it happens and there is nothing i can do to stop it. When the time is right I just hope that death takes me when I am asleep.

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    fatfistposted 14 years ago

    "Are you scared of dying?"
    
    There are only 3 options:
    
    1) Living forever on Earth and bored of the same-old after a few hundred years. Then begging to die.
    
    2) Living forever in Heaven beside Jesus and getting sick of praising him after a few hundred years. Then begging to die.
    
    3) Living a mortal life on Earth. Then begging to live forever.
    
    
    Which would you choose?

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    xboxps3wowposted 14 years ago

    not scared at all, i'll just die like everyone else before me did...

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    IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years ago

    Death. Scared? no religion here please.
    
    
    
    Hmmm....
    
    The last time I checked, this was the "religious" forum.  You know death and religion go hand in hand for some people.  Moreover, if you don't want religion spoken of, how about not posting a forum topic in the "religious forum."  Sounds simple enough.

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    Presigoposted 14 years ago

    I am not scared either

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    lyricsingrayposted 14 years ago

    I'm not scared of death but anxious and uncomfortable if I think of the "how"

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       Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Interesting perspective !

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       mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Most humans are very scared of death as it is something not known by them.
       
       "How do I overcome my fear of death?
       By leading a good life and having no regret."

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          lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          true.

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    I will try not to be there at the time of my death.

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       lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       

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       mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         magic time 

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    mintinfoposted 14 years ago

    Not afraid of death just the possible ways I will die. As far as what I expect might happen after I pass I'm not sure but I'm open to all posibilities.

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    skye2dayposted 14 years ago

    Not at all. I am going to the Light. That I know. If you are scared you either know the truth or you do not. No where I am going there are no tears, suffering, pain,  no struggles, no loss and pelnty of abundance. Joy Peace Love No sin. New bodies. It is very exciting. I want people to celebrate my going home, not my loss from this temporary home. Blessings. That is my story I am sticking to it. In Joy

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       DogSiDaedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       If this is the afterlife I'll cry

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          Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Mine? No. Pain possibly accompanying it - yes. More scared of inevitable death of parents, and even more of death of kids. For selfish reasons of course

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       Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hey Misha, don't you mean selfless reasons? It's not selfish of you to not want your parents to pass or think about your kids dying. It's innate as a father and a son. Your reasoning would be then selfless, because your thoughts are above yourself.

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          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Nah, I think it's completely selfish. The moment they die, they are free from it, but I am stuck here without them. I gave this a fair amount of thought and meditation, I know my reasons

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             earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I came to the same conclusions Misha.

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    Richieb799posted 14 years ago

    Im not scared of dying, I don not believe it is the end. I think there is something after you die, my mum visited a medium but not intentionally and he said my grandad was there, he described him great detail, including physically. He knew things that had that were to happen (which I assume he got from my grampa or whatver) to my sister in the future which have come true, he said things about me which only I know but was unsure about what was going to happen to me   My mother didnt give him any prior indication of knowledge about our family. I know about cold reading, but I don't believe what he said was cold reading.
    Apparently he is a well respect medium, my friends mum has also visited him, he is an elderly man with white hair.
    does this count as religion, I dont think it does because I didnt mention God at all?
    you alright anyway guys? havent seen you in any other threads

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       DogSiDaedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Derren Brown can probably change your mind about cold reading. His new stuff is shit. His old stuff, he could do way more than the most 'powerful' mediums, while knowing it was just a trick. Cold reading is wayyy more complex than people think

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          Richieb799posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          not sure, he knew things only I know myself.

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