People who shove religion down your throat
I believe but I do not try to change anyone, each to there own but this should be an interesting thread, one can only imagine what is going to happen. Welcome to hubpages! I hear the engines running so I am going to get out of the way before the flag drops. ::::::::::
Do whatever you like!
Bulldust
Care to elaborate? Or do you just want to say a naughty word?
Welcome to HubPages. You start out on an interesting note. I can already see the reaction coming.
Therefore, I'm posting this and leaving.Welcome to HubPages! I look forward to reading more of your work. From one who is obviously "unbalanced", I sincerely hope you have a productive and profitable time on HP.
Hmmm. I see Golden extending a welcome, identifying himself as "unbalanced", and wishing him well on hubpages. And you call that preaching ?
Looks like imagination gone verbal. If that post contained preaching or the other figments mentioned in your post - I don't see it. The fanatics are obvious.
Welcome to hubpages HollyNo need to welcome Mark to hubpages, he has been here longer than most of us!
Yes !!
I'm the short guy at the end of the gym on stag row. I can't seem to get a dance so I'll just keep thumb wrestling with the other stag row guys.
Who would be the one to decide which folks are balanced?
My uncle used to toast this:
May all those who love you, surround you with joy.
May all those who don't, have their ankles broken - so that you may know them by their limp.
Let's just bash the unbalanced people in the knee like Nancy Kerrigan. We'll see them coming a mile away.Rochelle, you are absolutely incorrigible, and I adore you!
Such "shoving" is generally based on insecurity in one's self, in particular believing they need to "win" or "earn" God's favor. It's a sad, white-knuckle approach to not being worthy to exist. (So says I...)
- sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago
0Welcome to the Hubs. Who is shoving religion down your throat? Are you exagerating a bit? So you oppose people who try to do good and live righteous lives....hmmmmm.....well you'll be in good company here! Where do you people come from?
Hey, Sneaks, I'm over hear on stag row. You wanna dance? If not, how 'bout a thumb wrestle.
Hey Golden! I would love to do either and lets call it male bonding!
You and your family doing ok? Did you get my post about our summer trip?Yes, I got the post and look forward to making it happen. I'm glad the other thread died. Talk about beating a dead horse.
You know, I remember at twelve years of age having both of my kidneys worked on during several massive surgeries. Before that, however, my mom practically had to shove castor oil down my throat as part of the preparation. It was most distasteful to me and angered me so. Yet, many many many many years later I understand the reason for the oil, and the benefit gained from doing so. Moral of the story: At the time, we may vehemently dislike what we are fed, but in time we continue to see the fruit of those seeds planted.
By the way, Sneaks, I must adhere to Church standards - no double clutching during a dance!There better be light between us or you know how the neighbors will talk!
Oh, yes! Not only do we have 1,462,927 wives for every man they will say that we are doubling up on the "man" part.
A little place called sanity sneak, you should visit!
I think that applies well to all ways of being in the world habee.
- Twenty One Daysposted 14 years ago0
Personally I wish they would go away, but fanatics just keep posting their belief in a hate filled doctrine, and some of us don't like that, we simply want to point out that your beliefs are not true, cause conflict and wars and promote a belief in stone age thinking.
EEEAAAAARRRRRNNNNNEEESSSSTTT!!
Methinks you do fib.
Were the religion forums such an aversion to you, you actually *would* stay away. However, for what it's worth, I think you and several others supply the appropriate daily dose of Vitamin A for those who clearly lack it. Just sayin'...
[Vitamin A: Atheism. Get it? For many, perhaps not enough....)
Do you actually read thread Holly or just knee jerk react to them?
I still have no idea how you come to your conclusions, but it is not with any form of logic!
You object to your own scripture perhaps?As I said before, you're always looking for a fight.
So I'm hunting you ? Sorry but no!
Sometimes I find your posts funny and I reply accordingly.
I do this with a lot of other hubbers as well.
Yes the "believers are no longer able to silence dissent by killing all non believers as the bible dictates.
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)More love from god.
Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)Earnest is demonstrating how an atheist would shove their non-beliefs down other peoples throats
Or letting them know what their beliefs are!
Apparently they either ignore the hateful crud spouted or don't know about it.
I never tell religionists to become atheists or threaten them. I just don't think they are very sane.
Just quoting their bible for them.- Thank you, that means a lot to me. I enjoy your honest efforts too!
It's amazing how many atheists are convinced of how intelligent and superior they are for rejecting an essential aspect of the human condition in favor of simplistic and unbridled narcissism, yet they express their great sophistication through the reasoning and persuasive techniques of a three year old!
Neurosis is an essential part of the human condition? I learn so much from you tk! So it is you who has the big picture on religion? I am in total awe of you tk, you are a legend in your own lunch time!
Religious belief is megalomania, some of us are just not that dumb and can see what sits behind having a special invisible friend to threaten others with.Yes what exactly were you saying?
'It's amazing how many atheists are convinced of how intelligent and superior they are for rejecting an essential aspect of the human condition in favor of simplistic and unbridled narcissism, yet they express their great sophistication through the reasoning and persuasive techniques of a three year old!'
your incredible words ! LOL
Oh !! you're so smart !! LOL!
So Atheism is Narcissism ? and what is Religious people then ? when they're all the time saying ,they were created as God's image ? Comparing themselves with a God image !!
Pleaasseee !!!
Thanks for the laughs !
Apparently, everyone here IS a convert.
They either were born atheist and converted to religion, or they were indoctrinated into reigion and converted to atheism.
Then there are the ones who were of one religion and were converted to another religion. And then there are those who had nothing at all, but had so much "shoved down their throats" they are TOTALLY confused,
And ..... Oh, I give up. This is tiring.
@ holly
you said:
Tantum - the question was posed a few times with slight verbage changes in hopes of getting a legitimate answer. Get a dictionary, learn to read, grow up...something.
and still attacking me ! LOL!
I hope you get the same fun as I, with these threads !!Well, I too am tired of having had evolution shoved down my throat. Evolutionists don't come knocking on my door though! They BARGE right in, and overtake virtually every TV channel I have.
I can't even watch some really cool docco's without hearing all their "billions of years ago....this" or "evolved....that" %#*?X>. Then, in the same breath, talk about what a wonderful "creation" it all is.Hua
- Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago0
- SirDentposted 14 years ago0
The is a great tool for shoving religion down the throats of everyone.
I don't see any atheist threads being loaded here day after day.
I think the atheists are just trying to point out they do not like this hate filled crud being repeated adnauseum by those who keep hearing the little sub-conscious voice saying to them, "I don't believe this crud either, but if I repeat it often enough or get others to believe it I will feel safer."
The subconscious knows all!Your logic is about as good as I would expect it to be!
Read your own posts.
Why would you be on a thread with the title "People who shove religion down your throat."
You want to tell the world a bunch of fairy stories then get all wobbly when others oppose it.
"I don't see any atheist threads being loaded here day after day."
You're not paying attention. Or are you trying to play 'cute' with threads vs. posts? Gosh, how very, very clever...Like I said logic is not your strong suit.
Threads are threads, posts are posts.
The thread is what the religionists put up endlessly, the posts are the replies they get. Simple really, don't put up the threads, and you won't have any posts!Yeah, that's why dogs chasing their own tails should be taken seriously... gosh, how clever!
OK I am starting to think ESL. What is it you don't understand? Religious threads here, not atheist threads, or don't you know the difference.
Religionists stop putting up threads like Jesus loves you, and nobody posts a reply!
- Way to go! The truth is that you need to start thread after thread because you don't even believe this crud yourselves. How could you? Everything you don't know, is answered with "The Fairy did it!"
Hilarious.Then why must you interfere with every religious thread made?
WE ALL HAVE HEARD YOUR STANCE ON THE ISSUE, THERE IS NOT ONE PERSON ON HP THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND WHERE YOU STAND ON RELIGION.
You have made your point, move on go stalk the threads where the people that agree with you hang out...oh wait...they all hang out in the religious threads...hmmmm
So much for understanding the basic fundamental of "GOD"?
Ah there it is. "Thanks for playing"
"old man," "thanks for playing," "blah blah blah," "come up with an original thought and we can talk." wash and repeat.
Not one of these is original, in fact if we took these away you may be mute!. Then you tell others they repeat stuff.
No mirrors in your house eh?
Religion and BELIEFS! Remember the last bit, this thread is about shoving religion down peoples throats. Just a reminder of what the forum is, and which one you are in.
Gee the bold is impressive, makes everything true!
And we have seen your view time after time, you are one of the biggest offenders here with constant meaningless threads and posts.
DO CAPITALS MAKE YOU FEEL BIGGER?
I keep trying to point out to you and your religious mates that this forum is "Religions AND beliefs", but as usual you only see what you want to see.That from you?
The age comment speaks volumes about who you are. I have noticed that you bring up age as soon as anyone disagrees with you.
Your father would be proud!
Do you hate older people that much?everything speaks volumes... it is your catch phrase... come up with an original thought and we can talk...
Hi Mikel - you are on form today
You have just described every reason that everyone is on here arguing, you only missed out that when something smells like s**t, tastes like s**t, looks like s**t, it probably is s**t.
It is our logic given right to respond to your god given stuffNot too many gullible enough to buy your beliefs!
Kids are getting a lot smarter these days!
"The fairy did it" won't even wash with the little ones anymore.
I have not seen anyone preventing you from saying anything, what I see is you trying to do that. "Thanks for playing" now off you go!- Yet, again. It seems to miss the entire underlying problem. No matter, I'm sure you'll think up some logical excuse to give yourself...like "I didn't know?".
At which time, you can just be left to blame yourself. To form an belief based on "GOD" supposed existence is futile and a waste of valuable human resources.
But, you keep thinking you're right and things will show themselves in due time.- aren't you suppose to be flagging my hubs?
That would only occur to you if you do it. It would never occur to most people.
Like your age remark. Small minded.
You are really good at saying who you are accidently.
- Mikel
It made no sense whatsoever with those words, now it makes perfect sense. No charge for editing.
Well, I think I made my point. Good night everyone
Goodnight Holly, I'll deal with them for a while...
Hold up a mirror - it may help
Then again...just don't go getting banned! Night
God Bless and keep you all...Especially the Atheists.
Peace and Love...GoodnightLike all the other religious posts, there is no debate, just people trying to ram scripture!
Nope. Non-belief is just that, non belief. Saying one does not believe is not the same thing as saying one does, because one requires belief and all that goes with it. Non-belief is just that. Non-belief.
Not too many posts or threads trying to prove a lack of belief, just people who say that they don't buy it.
I don't recall anyone saying, "If you don't believe you are gonna die in hellfire."Care to elaborate?
You were the only one quoting scripture Earnest...I was trying to debate the point. You were trying to shove your beliefs (nonbelief) down my throat like there was no tomorrow. I still wonder how you manage to function driving past a church or walking through a bookstore when you cannot ignore a single christian thread. If you would quit discounting legitimate questions, stop patronizing, and stop with the warring scripture - we might communicate. Funny thing is...All along I have agreed that no one has the right to force their belief OR NONBELIEF down anyones throat
Holly
Reread the thread with that in mind and you'll see it is true.
- Onusonusposted 14 years ago0
You follow a 2000 year old story written by goat herders that claim to know an invisible fairy and in the same breath talk about delusion?
:llol:You would be gravely mistaken, as would they be. The Earth gave life to humans. No mystical "GOD" entity created humankind.
Sorry, didn't happen.Nothing like making yourself look foolish, but I guess to each their own. It's not a matter of where it came from, but how it came about? You play with words well and seem to be very good at twisting/shaping sentence, to tied others up.
It evolved. WOW! (*what you don't seriously think some super "GOD" type person simply put people on Earth.) Common-sense says otherwise. If you even use it in the first place?
Yet, another question to make yourself look foolish. Do you like to do this to yourself? If so, please seek help for your affliction. But, to make sure I answer your question- No, it wasn't always in existence. If you ask how it was created? I would seriously suggest you go back to get re-educated.
Now, this is one of the most oddest question of all-time. What would make you think ALL life would be the same? WOW! You must not have a clue about much. Btw- it would be nice if you and the rest of your religious folk, quit asking "WHY". And, the reason I say that is, because it's the oldest trick in the book.
To understanding LIFE itself, is to understand that the "WHY" is inherently useless and effective at the same time. The "Why" insinuates a reason or explanation- which means you're looking for answers to questions you know is already based on the human psyche. Therefore, you can deny anything you choose or disagree with.
No you are not. You're asking meaningless questions based on the psyche of all human beings. You are not looking for my view, because my view does nothing, because YOU see it as subjective, which is it not.
I've done the objective study of religion and fake "GOD". I know it's hoax, I don't believe it to be a hoax. I have relieved myself of my early years of indoctrination, as well, as any attempts for others to insist "GOD" is indeed fact.
It's not. The fact the religious "fruitcakes" or nuts or whatever, choose to believe in "GOD" and then open their damn mouth about it, as though it's fact. It is disturbing that people can buy into this garbage.
Yes, indeed, I was a catholic child, grown into an catholic adult. At 22 I began doctrine living and for a great number of years I studied, and studied religious scripture, christianity philosophy, ancient world history, religious world history, sciences(biology, psychology, philosophy) and I walked through each piece of information.
And, when all say and done- Religion was realized as a hoax. And, the funniest part of all of it is that the religious folks who claim to follow Jesus, are not. But, that's another story.
Oh and since we are already talking on the subject, which I thank you for- read my new hub and let me know what you think?
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Otherwise, have a grand day.How nice? And, you think you're selfish attitude is any better. At least I speak the truth. There wasn't a single shred of those words which were not truth of my life.
If you don't like it, too bad. I wasn't talking to you in the first place.
I was responding to someone who asked me some questions. So much for etiquette? Again, nice to see.
As for anything else, like my new hub. I promoted my hub because it was more relevant to the topic which she was discussing with me.
Therefore, have a great day holly.
Maybe they do, but I'm not one of them. This would have to be a very wrong interpretation.
- Onusonusposted 14 years ago0
Where is your religion shoving tool Onus? Don't you know you should keep it with you at all times?
Nothing. I repeat nothing is to be taken literal from the bible or any religious scripture. Simply because of the date of the human language and how far evolved language had become.
About 99% of the scriptures are metaphorical. Therefore, translation is required. It cannot be taken at face value or literal.
The Metaphorical words used require interpretation or translation. Especially, from the religious linguistics are ancient and not in English.
I hoped that helped.At least you see that.
You don't realize is that the words were not in English, some words are translated successfully and others are interpreted. That's what you're missing.
In the scriptures, the words in religious tone used with metaphors of an ancient language, no longer in existence, there are going to be some words that simply didn't exist and the context of sentence and sentence structure were at the most basic beginning. You would be lucky if the language has more than 30,000 words to it, and that's any language.
How many times do you find the word "I" used? And, when?
Just a thought.Do you know 'why' the New Testament exists and it contradicts much of the Old Testament?
I am not surprised by it anymore. I researched it.
- SirDentposted 14 years ago0
I can explain that!
Nobody is writing that Santa, the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy are real!
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