aliens existence is inconclusive..but presuming they exist , again there are two possibility..they r inferior in development cycle or are more advanced than us..if former is true..they dont know that we exist and so can't think about us..if latter is true..i dont know whether they would see us as their future competitors or would help us..
We marvel at our own intelligence.... with that said, do people pay attention to the ants walking at their feet when they walk into a store? Not really, and it's doubtful advanced aliens would see us any different.
Twenty One Daysposted 11 years agoin reply to this
aliens don't exist. there is no scientific or religious proof they do. but, we could put paper bags on our heads, have a few more pints and hitch hike our way to the next door neighbors and have a really great BBQ.
When called upon to demonstrate proof of their gods existence, believers will often offer up everything around them, everything they can see, touch and hear as proof of their gods creation, hence his existence.
They will also offer up spiritual or divine intervention and experiences as proof of their gods existence.
"Just look in the mirror, you are proof of gods existence"
All this powerful "proof" of their gods existence at their fingertips, yet the very thought of alien lifeforms existing in the universe couldn't possibly be justified without the same kind of absolute religious proof.
I never did or ever will make the claim that aliens exist.
However, with the knowledge and understanding that there exists so many potential solar systems with planets that have the capacity to maintain life, one can certainly opine there is a very good possibility other life forms do exist in the universe.
Twenty One Daysposted 11 years agoin reply to this
And this is precisely the lack of critical thinking that is limiting human ability/progress. Which is more noteworthy: to be concerned with creatures and bodies beyond our planetary reach or fully immerse into knowledge/understanding of who we are and the world lived in -land, sea and sky- before galaxy hopping? And I do mean every individual human.
The Ism has spent the last um-teen thousand years staring into the sky while a magnificent species of plant, the size of a dust bunnie, was just stepped on by them, to get a closer look at that sky...
Highly intelligent aliens would likely consider most humans as cancer cells and avoid them like a venerial disease, because many humans are screwing their own planet and might risk infecting other worlds.
Don't get me wrong, though, some of us humans might make good pets.
see sooner or later we would expand..already we have space station ..we might end up being in another planet , say 1000 years from now..who knows we may expand to another galaxy if all goes right..we are prospective competition for aliens..for aliens too , if they want to stay earth is good place to be with needed infrastructure..only thing required is their ability to survive in earth environment...if they can figure out that , it would be beneficial for them to choose earth for staying than say saturn , if need arises..same applies to human of future too..isn't it?
but again this are speculations based on assumptions that aliens exist and are in advanced stage of development than humans..
It seems as though in the past (think Mayans and Eygptian cultures) that aliens have somewhat helped the human race to advance through agriculture and technology. There are hundreds of discoveries and old text that talk about gods coming down from the skys and helping ancient civilizations to advance in knowledge. Interesting discoveries like the bagdad battery, the dropa stones and ancient pictures and carvings of planes, light bulbs, etc. lead way to the belief that aliens would most likely help rather than destroy us.
lol..Efeyas dont start that again, I have presented most of those so-called ancient alien gift items in my hub & except one or two instances, I didnt find them as a solid evidence to promote the ancient astronaut theory.
I have always wondered wht would be the ultimate point in the evolution stage? Depending on that, our alien friends will act accordingly. Theres a possibility that An Ultra Advanced Alien race will be busy with its own experiments to find the meaning of life & creation or reach the level of God/ the perfect state. I believe it wont have the Time & will neither bother with the existence of inferior, primitive species like Homo-Sapience.
its not about hierarchies, its abt responsibilities. They will realize that with their knowledge & power, their responsibilities are much higher & they should not waste their time with primitives like us. Its just like Einstein or other famous scientists whose wives often complained that their husbands love their lab rats more than them
You seem to miss the point of evolution, from a scientific stand point. There is never a perfect state. There are only organisms adapted to today's conditions and organisms that face extinction through natural selection. If human beings are "advancing" why is it that war, plagues, famine, poverty, cruelty, torture, greed etc. are just as rampant as they ever have been?
I don't think they would laugh. If space is crowded with aliens (not many unoccupied planets available) they would destroy us and take earth. If aliens are rare, then maybe help, maybe destroy. I like to think mankind would help in such a case, but it's not reasonable to think aliens would necessarily be the same. They might just be hungry, or might be so advanced we are little better than termites are to us.
Oh no, Not buying it. I saw that old episode of The Twilight Zone. It was called To Serve Man. Anyone remember? Respectfully submitted for your perusal. They put people on ships to take them back to their home planet as FOOD. Get it? To serve man for dinner.
They wouldn't laugh at us, because aliens cannot laugh, I saw it on the discovery channel were a man was abducted by aliens and he told them a joke about being illegal aliens and they just didn't laugh dammit!
They were either totally depressed or accountants.
Perhaps they could hardly contain their laughter, knowing that we humans somehow saw the need to produce such essential items as "Weener Kleener Soap", or "Sudoku toilet roll" ( see the "more products we don't need" hub by carolina muscle)
Hawking also said that given the barrier that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light and the sheer distances involved in inter stellar space travel unless we or they plan to go on a one way trip lasting several hundred generations we will never meet one another.
But how does he know factually that the aliens are not more advanced that we are in technology? It's an assumption that they have the same intelligence as us and it's also an assumption that they are carbon based. If they were not carbon based (after all, they are aliens and we only know about our own world) they may be more evolved in intelligence and have an ability to travel great distances without any effects on themselves.
Beth, I think the assumption that most life in the universe will be carbon based is is based upon the fact that it is the most common mineral found in space. But you are right up to a point they don't necessarily have to look anything like us and could just as easily be plant based or waterbased Etc. However no matter how advanced or super intellegent they are they face the same basic fundimental drawbacks that we do and that is it is in physics nothing can travel faster than the speed of light full stop.
To travel faster than light would mean traveling in time not space.
However even it were possible to exceed the speed of light you would have to exceed it many fold just to get anywhere at all.
Oh Yes, I nearly forgot, if you travel at that speed you would be blind.... You would be unable to see what was coming towards you because any forward looking sensor like say radar would not work fast enough to get out and back to you before you had either a0 passed it or b) Hit it.... HARD!
The asteroid that wiped out the Dinosaurs was only going at about 20,000 mph when it hit us.
Can you imagine how Pissed you'd make our neighbours hitting them at the speed of light ?
People always think of aliens as the "bad guys". But what are the chances they could be more evil than human beings? We have things like murder, war, genocide, and human trafficing. I bet if aliens came down and saw us they'd be like "Holy @#$%!!" and take off running.
If the "big bang" is factual, then all life in "our" universe would be, relatively, the same age. Since environment determines that which results from the processes of evolution, to my way of thinking, regardless of the "form" of the life or the extent to which it has evolved, there shouldn't be that much difference in the "progress other life has experienced when compared to that of us. It should be as difficult for "them" to traverse "our" universe as it is for us. We can only write science fiction novels about life that may exist beyond "our" universe and what their response would be if they came into contact with us.
I have very little knowledge of out universe; So please bear with me for a moment for my question. But ??
It is my understanding that there is but one universe with many solar systems. It is also believed that stars are constantly being born and colapsing. I believe that the same is said of solar systems. Do we know how many solar systems there are? Was our solar system the first or last to form?
And Science says that all life on earth has become extinct on a number of occasions, asteroid impacts and the Ice age. It is also believed that the earth has turned on it's axis at least once?? Would it not be impossible to say that there can not be other civilizations millions of years older than ours.
I am aware that science has guessed how old our solar system is. Is this the same age as the Universe?
jerami: I usually don't repond to you. You are on my "list." :-) "It is my understanding that there is but one universe..." Why would that be? What is there beyond "our" universe? If our universe continues to expand eternally, what is it expanding into? Who is to say that "ours" in the only "universe" in "space?" "Would it not be impossible to say that there can not be other civilizations millions of years older than ours." A few million years is but a blink in geological time. Even if other alien life existed a few million yrs longer than us, it could still be considered to be as primitive as extant human life. "I am aware that science has guessed how old our solar system is. Is this the same age as the Universe?" Of course not. Our universe is about 13.7 billion yrs old. The earth is only about 4 billion yrs old. The age of our sun is only about 4 1/2 billion yrs. Who is to say that life doesn't exist if other universes exist beyond ours, in an eternal and endless cosmos?
qwark wrote: If the "big bang" is factual, then all life in "our" universe would be, relatively, the same age. ============================
Jerami said... Everything in our "solar system" would be relatively the same age. ...Solar system ... Not universe This is the point that I was making.
There are many other solar systems much older than ours ==================== qwark wrote: Who is to say that "ours" in the only "universe" in "space?"
Jerami said As far as I have heard; this is the only universe that Science knows about. Is there another? ===================================
qwark wrote: A few million years is but a blink in geological time. Even if other alien life existed a few million yrs longer than us, it could still be considered to be as primitive as extant human life.
Jerami said ... And we have come so far since the last extenction.(10,000 years) And have come so far in technology in just the past 100 years. How far might we go technology wise in the next 20 years?
You said... If the "big bang" is factual, then all life in "our" universe would be, relatively, the same age.
Now that is not very intelectual, I thought each solar system was of a diffrent age? ======================= I said "It is my understanding that there is but one universe..." And you act like I am stupid for saying this? ================= qwark wrote: "A few million years is but a blink in geological time. Even if other alien life existed a few million yrs longer than us, it could still be considered to be as primitive as extant human life".
Jerami asks ... Do you really believe that? You said ...You are probably a very nice, but abjectly ignorant fellow human being "unbelievably silly, shallow response" ???????????????
If Aliens arrived on Earth it would probably be a result of destroying their home planet. No point traveling through space for a hair cut, right? So, if they arrived here, they would probably stop for fuel and try somewhere cleaner.
If aliens are smart then they'll ignore us for good. I mean they'll not bother laughing on humans who think "guy who died on cross saving his ass will be their savior in future". That will be waste of time.
Y'know, aliens that showed up on Earth might not be the shiniest pennies in the bank. I can drive a car, but I can't design or build one. So, just because an alien could reach Earth in a ship wouldn't necessarily mean he/she/it is some kind of genius. The alien probably didn't build the ship, it just pushed some buttons to make it go. Aliens we might find arriving on Earth might be the equivalent to us sending a monkey into space.......
Or worse - the people who adventured out into the new world when we developed our shipping phase of planetary travel were self-serving, vicious, moral-less, bigoted adventurers, saturated in their bigoted religions and the worst thing that could have happened to the peoples they came across and ultimately destroyed.
On (our)past experience and record, the behavious of those who came, would be that they saw us, and decided we were not worth their consideration, after which they would herd us, kill us and uses us as slaves, taking what they found to be of value (to them) and infecting us with all sort of vile diseases we had no immunity from.
I have often wondered if we were to make first contact with an advanced alien race, how would that change the view on religion and God. Religion seems to assume God made the earth and all the creatures on it with humans at the pinnacle of that life. What if we met aliens were were more advanced and...
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