In Matthew 4:1-11 we see how satan temmted Jesus,even using scripture to do so. But Jesus was able to withstand him by quoting scripture himself.You must study the word of God if you want to withstand the plans of the enemy. He knows your weaknesses and he will use them against you. He even knows the bible from start to finish, so he can attempt to use it to fool you.Dont be fooled. In 1 Peter 5,it states, "Be self controlled and alert. You enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour".Dont let it be you.Like we as christians try to go about doing good as Christ did,so too are the devils followers going around spreading lies and distorting the truth.Jesus said if you are not for him you are against him,and if you are against Jesus you serve Satan.There is no middle ground.
Troy C.
You may as well quote passages from Harry Potter, or Star Wars, because this is abject folly.
There is no Boogey Man. That's the stuff of childhood fairytales.
Offerd here for review before it gets re-written by well meaning folks!...lol
The actual Verse:
Scripture: Matthew 4:1-11
1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And he fasted forty days and forty nights, and afterward he was hungry. 3 And the tempter came and said to him, "If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread." 4 But he answered, "It is written, `Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" 5 Then the devil took him to the holy city, and set him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to him, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down; for it is written, `He will give his angels charge of you,' and `On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.'" 7 Jesus said to him, "Again it is written, `You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'" 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them; 9 and he said to him, "All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me." 10 Then Jesus said to him, "Begone, Satan! for it is written, `You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.'" 11 Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and ministered to him.
Meaningless drivel there Troy.
You'd be much better off quoting from a Harry Potter book as it is closer to reality and vastly superior in internal coherence.
An accurate observation that. The scriptures have holes you could drive a truck through.
I am sorely TEMPTED to tell the OP to shove it, but I shall use restraint - how christlike of me
If I were to go hunting for to kill a man I would not go to the morgue.
Satan is a very good hunter. He has been honing his skills for a very long time.
If I were Satan and looking for souls to steal. I'd sneak into camp and bring my sleeping bag and tooth brush..
If you can't bogle 'em with footwork, baffle 'em with BS!
absolutety right! Satan is decietful and he is the father of every lie. We shall watch as well as pray.
Satan's plan is to provide easy outlets for people to make Christian noises while not actually living Christian lives. That second part takes effort. Satan knows humans are lazy but like to feel important. It feels good to type about Christianity though, you get all the nice feelings without any of the sore muscles, tired feet, or having to look suffering in the face every day.
The only lurking lion out there, the only deceitful demon skulking about looking to undo you is yourself. You want to be watchful, start by watching in your mirror.
Nobody is out to get you. Just do good things. Like, actually do good things. Less time spent worrying about Satan's conspiracy and more time in the community helping will go a long way to foiling Satan's plan.
If every religious person who spent so much time arguing for religious stuff turned off their computers and went out and logged some time teaching underprivledged kids how to write instead, or organizing a food drive, or doing something for real, think how much lovelier the planet would be. Maybe some of us who don't believe the stories might see all the good coming out of the religion instead of just noise and ever larger and more expensive looking buildings popping up on corners around town.
This Satan bloke. Your god made it, you deal with it.
I know, right? It's sort of like the line the abusive husband always has in the cop dramas, "I love you, baby, but I just want you to do like I tell you."
The only sensible thing for her to do is leave. But then, that plotline won't hold viewers there long enough to pay the sponsors.
So every Xian is a son of Satan since Xian's lie.
Well, if he's gonna tempt me, I wish he'd get on with it. Maybe with H. Berry or A. Jolie as the tools of temptation.
According to the OP he still tempts tooday!
All of human nature's future rests in discerning that the truth is that we are not good or bad at all times. We are always in a process of becoming better or worse. Do not blame the devil for human weakness, just do your best to improve. (my opinion) If there are such forces out there then they always have been, and while they seem important they really are just conditions of your experience. So the devil doesn't make you do anything.
It is like when you create a magnetic/electrity North Pole; South Pole is autormatily formed. Satan has a role to play as per the scheme of things; assigned by the Creator - God Allah YHWH the Desighner/Fashioner of the Universe.
One has to make a continous effort that one does not responds to the negative force of Satan and one does good deeds for one's moral and spiritual progress.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Satan Still Tempts Tooday
Satan has a role among scheme of things; he has but to accomplish his role assigned to him
Some of those old stories are so cool. Anyway "the devil" was really a way to turn young early Christians away from the popular Roman Gods of that era. The best example was Apollo who's name was changed to Lucifer to discourage the worship of Apollo. As the myth of Apollo was very pagan in nature and still lots of fun orgiastic rites were tied to him. Then the word satan in hebrew means accuser, and is interchangable with other words, but really thats all just scare tactics. There is all kinds of evil out there but if "the devil" is anything real it is the combined names of the fallen angels who accused God in the beginning. Thank the encyclopedia of Demonology for listing the names where little would be antichrists can just google it.
Another name for Satan is Lucifer, which contains the root word for "Light." The belief in good and evil is an artifact of dualistic thought. Without the opposing principle of Satan or Lucifer, we could not comprehend a principle like God, Christ or the Pariclete. Hinduism recognizes that the true Divine principle of GOD both creates and destroys. The Destroyer, Shiva, is not seen as Evil but a necessary participant in the manifestation of Human Experience. The symbol for Taoism is the Yin and Yang. If you look closely, the white section (if you want to presume that white is good, that is your choice) has a black circle within it as the black section has a white circle. Good and Evil, Creation and Destruction, are inseparable to the Divine Order. It is the limited capacity of much of human intellect that places judgments of right and wrong in this game of Creation that is unfolding before us.
hamstersmessiah posted
Another name for Satan is Lucifer, which contains the root word for "Light." The belief in good and evil is an artifact of dualistic thought. Without the opposing principle of Satan or Lucifer, we could not comprehend a principle like God, Christ or the Pariclete. ]
Disagree about the principle comprehension aspect of 'good.'
'hamstersmessiah posted;
Hinduism recognizes that the true Divine principle of GOD both creates and destroys. The Destroyer, Shiva, is not seen as Evil but a necessary participant in the manifestation of Human Experience. The symbol for Taoism is the Yin and Yang. If you look closely, the white section (if you want to presume that white is good, that is your choice) has a black circle within it as the black section has a white circle. Good and Evil, Creation and Destruction, are inseparable to the Divine Order. It is the limited capacity of much of human intellect that places judgments of right and wrong in this game of Creation that is unfolding before us. ]
Divine Order is meaningless. The limited capacity of theistic human intellect combined with the false promise/threat of 'Eternal Life' by a 'manufacturer' of the universe is the problem.
I should also note the creation and destruction sections of the Christian daemon deity is implicit with the 'Manufacturer' aspect of the empty claim and broken logic of the concept. It is also explicitly stated in Isaiah 45:7, if I recall correctly.
Isaiah 45 (King James Version)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
I'm surprised I recalled the verse correctly.
"Satan" is like "Santa Claus". He doesn't show up if you don't believe in him. Yes, there is evil in the world, but no Satan or Santa Claus is behind it. Isn't it handy to be able to blame evil on a fake character... If you do that you don't address the matters of people who aren't quite well adjusted and mature, or who have mental problems that make them do rotten things in this world.
It's pretty easy to live a life as a decent person who doesn't intentionally hurt anybody or anything else; and if one does unintentionally hurt someone, to own up, apologize, and try to do something to make things a little better. If you're well adjusted, mature, and secure enough to be able to do that; you don't to believe in "spooky forces" out there, waiting to make you do evil things.
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them; 9 and he said to him, "All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me." 10 Then Jesus said to him, "Begone, Satan! for it is written, `You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.'"
Does anyone else see... how Christianity is doing the devil's work?
By treading the Path or Way Jesus never treaded on. It is a path of Paul and the Church and the associates which is named "Christianity" - a misnomer which has nothing to do with Jesus, in my opinion.
People keep saying that it was Paul... but I actually think that the gospel of John does more to elevate Jesus to false deification.
God bless you all for giving your input, but the truth is still the truth
Hey Troy. Satan/Lucifer/The Devil are just symbolic personifications of doubt and disbelief in the existence of God within us. Allow me to interpret this for you properly.
Scripture: Matthew 4:1-11
1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
PJK -REMEMBER JESUS IS NOT A MAN THIS IS A STORY TO MAKE US LEARN SOMETHING.
2 And he fasted forty days and forty nights, and afterward he was hungry. 3 And the tempter came and said to him, "If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread."
PJK-EACH MAN EXPERIENCE THE DOUBT OF THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WITHIN HIM OTHERWISE WOULD YOU NOT BE ABLE TO TURN STONE INTO BREAD? TURNING STONE INTO BREAD SYMBOLIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF KNOWLEDGE OF THIS ASSERTION I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU.
4 But he answered, "It is written, `Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
PJK-MEANING WHAT YOU SAY YOU GET! THE MOUTH OF GOD IS YOURS! "JESUS" ALWAYS SAYS "IT IS WRITTEN" MEANING...READ THE WORDS.
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city, and set him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to him, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down; for it is written, `He will give his angels charge of you,' and `On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.'"
PJK-IT IS WRITTEN AGAIN. GOD SENDS YOU MESSAGES SO HELP YOU BELIEVE. DISBELIEF IS THE STONE.
7 Jesus said to him, "Again it is written, `You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'"
PJK-"IT IS WRITTEN" DO YOU THINK THE AUTHOR USED THESE WORDS OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR A REASON? YOU CAN'T TEMPT SOMEONE NOT EXTERNAL TO YOURSELF. TEMPT IS SATAN IS DOUBT.
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them; 9 and he said to him, "All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me." 10 Then Jesus said to him, "Begone, Satan! for it is written, `You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.'"
PJK- FOR THE FIRST TIME THE DEVIL AND THE TEMPTER ARE NAMED SATAN. SHALL IS NOT A COMMAND. THERE IS NO CHOICE INVOLVED. YOU SIMPLY ARE HIM.
11 Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and ministered to him.
PJK- FORGET YOUR DOUBTS BELIEVE YOU ARE OF GOD AND MESSAGES WILL COME TO YOU.
So you are all so conditioned to think of a physical Jesus and a physical Satan ... that the truth and wisdom will always appear to you to be "drooling idiocy".
Only when you actually drool. Without the drooling, it's just..
No, I know I don't think of a satan or a jesus at all, just another fairy story. I know that because I formally studied it for two years while I was "born again"
i haven't yet discerned what Satan meant when he created the typo "Tooday." but then Satan, like the Lord, moves in mysterious ways.
The spelling might not be correct but the message is. I thank you for all of the responses, positive as well as negative. The positive for the encouragement it gives me and the negative because I am learning more about the enemy and the many different ways he attacks. He uses scripture, human fallacies, lost people, and the overrationalizing of the Bible. I love you all in the name of Jesus.
Perhaps the OP has a spelling issue, yet it remains there is a thought put up for pondering.
Apparently those who disagree have a compulsion to ridicule, denigrate and expose their own ignorance. And that makes the "intelligent" better than the crusaders?
Nauseating.
Troy, as you've posted, it's hard to discern between the devil and the faithful because they do quote from the same source. The only way you can somewhat tell is to see if their actions mirror what they say.
Satan does indeed still tempt us today... and unless we start showing him some respect and call him by his first name (Earnest), he is going to get REALLY pissed
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