Christmas is not about Santa Claus

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ViralWhisperposted 13 years ago
As adults, we have an obligation to start teaching our children the very essence and real spirit of Christmas. I know that as a kid, most of us were conditioned to believe that Christmas is all about Santa Claus and material gifts. It is the birth of Jesus Christ that must be truly remembered and celebrated on Christmas day and by no means it don't need to be overshadowed by Santa Claus or any material gifts in this world. Let us not forget to remind ourselves and our children that Santa Claus is just only a symbol for Christmas and it is indeed Jesus Christ (and all the great things He has done for mankind) who is the true central figure of what Christmas is all about.
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  Dave Mathewsposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I understand what you are saying and I believe that Christmas is not about Santa Claus, But Christmas is about Giving, the kind of selfless giving God did and does for everyone of His children.
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  ViralWhisperposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're right on target DM. May God bless you for your wisdom.
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  pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes indeed I do agree!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Or it could be about the Winter Solstice.
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  pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes that will work for me too!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Of course it does!
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  MonaVieAileenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I totally agree with you and I, myself don't want to teach my children about Santa Claus and It bothers me when other people talk to my children about it,.. so I kindly ask them not to do it,..especially family members...They disagree with me and say that I'm taking my children's dreams away by not instructing them to believe in santa claus... I am a Christian... no denomination so I'm very passionate about this issue.
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  Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Mona, I can understand your concern about not letting secular symbols such as Santa Claus muddle up the importance of Christmas and the story of the Nativity to your children. However, you have a lot of influence in teaching them about the meaning of Christmas and teach your children that the birth of Christ is the reason for Christmas and how His birth has influenced many, such as Santa Claus to celebrate by expressing generosity and good will.
  
  I know that there are some churches who really frown on the Santa Claus figure. In fact one of my friends had a pastor, who when he was little used to caution the kids by saying that the name Santa if you reconfigured the letters turns out to be "Satan" and scared the kids. We laughed over it now. But I think it's a shame for a child not to be part of the Santa Claus spirit, it teaches the children good virtues such as kindness, good will to fellow men, etc. A reinforcement of what His birth means to Christians.
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  couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Teaching children to give, especially if they make something, is a noble enterprise.
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  Jake Gene Barnesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Christmas:
  
  The word Christmas originated as a compound meaning "Christ's Mass". It is derived from the Middle English Christemasse and Old English Cristes masse, a phrase first recorded in 1038. "Cristes" is from Greek Christos and "masse" is from Latin missa (the holy mass).
  
  The date of December 25th is not known to be the actual birthday of Jesus however, it is likely that it was chosen because it was the winter solstice on the ancient Roman calender, and the date of several various winter festivals
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  pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. Apparently he was born 11 September 3 BC. I read a very compelling hub this afternoon. Made sense to me.
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  renegadetoryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's nice to see that other people out there know that Jesus' date of birth is not mentioned in the Bible and was most likely in the fall. Also, the 3 wise men did not visit baby Jesus in the manger. He was already a bit older and living in a house with Mary and Joseph...
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  C.J. Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Santa Clause is WATCHING YOU!
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  reb4822posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree whith what you say about Santa Clause,Jesus is what it is all about. We should be giveing to Jesus,not each other gifts. The Wise Men gave to Jesus gifts not each other,so the gift should be the life Jesus saved on the Cross,and this is all who believe him to be the Son of God. We should give of ourselfs,but not just at this time of year to our Lord and Saviour but every day that we are blissed with.
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  Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Christmas has nothing to do with Y`shua --even though they use Him as the "insert birthday savior here" and get all woohoo, warm and fuzzy.
  
  A host of pagan rituals have been indoctrinated by christians --also a pagan title, including most of the Hanukkah festivity ingredients. Now, millions of good religious folk celebrate a single birthday as the biggest pagan day ever, next to "easter".
  
  Just look in any church or behind any pulpit and tell me if you don't see a christmas tree -symbolic of a Terebinth tree, a poisonous flower arrangement, holly wreath, mistletoe -a sexual stimulant like catnip, etc etc.
  
  Then grandiose via lavish gift giving and sentimental moments... It is also the highest suicide, heart attack ratio day of the calendar year.
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
For some it is.
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psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago
And for some it isn't.

(I love Santa, and presents).
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Daniel Carterposted 13 years ago
I guess most Christians believe Jesus wants them to go into debt for Christmas or they wouldn't be doing it...at least that's my thought.

I think the truth is we love Christmas because it's a spectacle of music, gifts, love, and sharing. We naturally want to go all out for it. The problem is getting carried away with all the "things" that don't really matter much.

Whether you believe in Jesus or not, most people love Christmas because it's a time of giving and love. If you focus on that, you should be able to retain a bit of sanity.
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  ViralWhisperposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You have absolutely a great point DC regarding giving and love as pertains to Christmas.
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  couturepopcafeposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think it's very interesting that even many people who don't believe in Jesus as the Christ and who don't really get involved at Christmas find themselves depressed at Christmas time. It's inexplicable. They feel something sad so there must be something to all this love and giving. As a collective consciousness, to bad it only happens once a year.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Love and giving? Oh - you mean spending? Perhaps educating yourself might help - you can start by looking into vitamin D production.
  
  There must be something to all this spending and going into debt? Of course there is.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  what are you getting me for Christmas, Mark?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Still waiting on the $15, so nothing until that is cleared up.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I know the Euro is going through some tough times right now.... but I had no idea that inflation on your side of the pond is increasing 10 percent a day
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  When I get the $18, we can talk.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If I had $18, i wouldn't need your help!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Think of this $21 as an investment. .......
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  ..I need that money for my coffin, for surely starvation is near unless I get a boost in my Adsense revenue
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You will not get a decent coffin for the $24 you owe me.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I better get offline before I have to mail you my house
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Is it worth more than $27?
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  the bank's portion, yes...
  
  mine, no, not really
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
I don't go crazy with spending money at Christmas. For me it is just a time to concentrate on peaceful things. And the Santa tradition is a nice one for kids, as long as you also show them the joy of giving.
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  Nick Maliziaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds good. Peace and relaxation are better than one hundred anxiety-inducing toys.
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Nick Maliziaposted 13 years ago
I think it's more about teaching children the value of family, sharing (humanity), and getting SOME good food, gifts, and entertainment (not to the point of excessive greed and gluttony, just enough to keep us warm through the coldest season.)

As an adult, Santa does seem like an embodiment of excess and over-corporatization. A child doesn't see it in the same way (hopefully), to them Santa is something like an angel spirit and in many families is associated with the mother and father who plays his role.

I think there are many progressive ideas in Christianity as there are in similar beliefs like Buddhism, but I don't think anyone should tell another what/how to worship unless they are physically harming someone. Just as I think it's petty and cruel to attack Christians on this holiday, I defend the rights of other beliefs.

Whatever your background, I wish you all a great holiday. Keep your family strong and close.
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  ViralWhisperposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I believe that Christmas is open to anybody whether one believes in it or not. I also don't judge anyone based on their religious practices and beliefs. Judgement will come only from God whether one has a God or not.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No - you have judged. That is what you are all about. Judging.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think Mark is going to Hell and I'm not afraid of saying it..
  
  I based that not on my Christian beliefs, but on karma's vicious and ever present vengeance. To date he has refused to mentor me in the ways of SEO, and as such I am stuck in a state of poverty
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  Nick Maliziaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That was hilarious!
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am still waiting for the $12 you owe me. Then we can begin.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I thought you were going to set up some links to some of my Hubs from some of you websites in a gesture of Heathen / Faithful fellowship??
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  $13 now.
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  Nick Maliziaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Agreed
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Christmas is about Judgment.
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  exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  it is judging when you say
  "You are judging"
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Mark is assessing the observed action. Actions can be judged.
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  exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  it is one thing to observe something that may be wrong, and another to start talking about it, some Christians do judge just like others but you can not judge all by the actions of some, that is wrong, All non-believers do not worship satan, but some do, so is it ok to judge all non-believers as satan worshipers?
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  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Did I say that? Coal or present? No Judgment here.
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  Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Greek
  I think Mark is going to Hell and I'm not afraid of saying it...
  
  You’re only proving Mark’s point about judging
  
  Mark Knowles
  Christmas is about Judgment.
  
  Judgment is only part of Christmas since my Mother is an atheist too.
  Wait a few year until judgment Day comes, then you can tell them, “I told you so” , like many other times before. Then they will ignore you Mark and they will go on their merry way
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I never said Mark didnt have valid points.. just that he is a very, very bad man
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  Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If you can't tame Mark, how will you tame Satan?
  
  Mark is like Dinosaur bones, here to test your faith.
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  frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Greek I can see your point. Never was a Yoda type so woefully under-serving of his aspiring young (you are kinda young right?) apprentice as MK. I warrant you'd be making hundreds, maybe thousands of $$$s had he taken you calmly under his wing. *sighs*
  
  All that lost revenue. Are you going to take him to task about all that he owes you? I mean ... it's going to be his fault when you have a Bob Cratchett Christmas. No Santa Clause. Timmy to the workhouse.
  
  Sheesh
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I can;t be mad at Mark.. he was named after a disciple, after all...
  
  but his failure to impart his wisdom onto me is just further proof that non-believers such as Mark simply do not have the same compassionate qualities of giving and sharing that we of faith do.
  
  .. and Castle, I seek not to tame Mark or Satan... but will gladly use and SEO tips either would like to impart.
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  Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There is Beauty in any beast or in Satan. I personally have compassionate for both opposite ends of the poles, its all nature.
  
  The best thing about Christmas is the get together of friends and family no matter how delusional they may be, in fact what family is functional these days? Serve up the piping hot wild beast ,
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Piping hot wild beast"... boy that takes me back to college when that was my nickname
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  Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Your are a funny guy, I can see why.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  the meds?
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  frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think Mark was named after someone a bit more closely related. Or maybe it's because he made his mark from the moment he drew breath. A nice appropriate name eh?
  
  You have faith? In?
  
  As for satan, he's not overly keen on the internet. I hear he likes to be more personal, insidious. Messes with minds and all that. Or didn't you realise? You're more likely to learn NLP than SEO if you ask him for help.
  
  And as for the OP - yes it is. I have asked Santa for some Pandora jewelry. I expect it there, on the 25th. And when it arrives I will duly take a photograph and display it on the forum as proof of his existence.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I am a religious person and I have faith...
  
  and I extend that to my good friend Mark, although the more I wait, the more I suspect that the day of judgment will come way before his assistance arrives
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  Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  frogdropping
  
  From my hub of Save Satan
  
  Satan starts pondering on the web. Jesus quickly steps in to judge everyone, pray to save Satan he has a very curious spirit like the rest of us.
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  reb4822posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Amen to that,but there is one draw back, when we tell our children about Santa Claus we teach them how to lie,just as it is with Easter we lie about the Easter Bunny. I became a lier at an early age due to the lie that was told to me. When our children grow up this is what makes it easy for them to lie to us because we first lie to them.I believe a lot of the liers ended up in Washington D.C. cause now they lie to the Country.
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  Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hey friend. Don't start on the Easter Bunny.
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Cagsilposted 13 years ago
Christmas is about whatever each person makes it about. End of story.
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  reb4822posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If not for the Birth of Christ there would be no Christmas for people to lie to about Santa Claus.This would really be a whatever because without Jesus there would be no story to tell truth or the lie of Santa Claus.
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Greek Oneposted 13 years ago
Santa Claus sounds awfully like Satan's Cause...

I'm just sayin'...
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  Nick Maliziaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Contemporary Santa is similar to Mammon, and the media certainly didn't help the reputation of Saint Nicholas who more than likely did not have elf or brownie familiars.
  
  XD
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  reb4822posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Keep on saying it, because the more people know that Satan did start this lie that has to do with a man in a red suit,Satan is pictured to be red,mmmm no horn on him but the horns ride with his flying deer.Time to end this lie about Santa which might end lieing , wishful thinking
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  EXACTLY!!!
  
  (although I'm not altogether sure what you mean)
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  pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What lie was that? That Christmas had nothing to do with Christ? That Jesus wasn't born on that day?
  
  Or that Santa represents the symbol of giving based on a Norse fella? That the Christmas tree represents the symbol of renewal and hope in the winter solstice.
  
  Christmas no matter its origins, is a chance to teach our children the value of giving and sharing. To teach our children the value of loving. I do not see this as a bad thing.
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GavNugentposted 13 years ago
For me its not about Santa or Jesus or anything like that. I don't follow organised religion. We decorate our house in an understated, traditional kind of way, no flashing lights hanging from the house etc. We buy each other presents. We have all grown out of the Santa age, but growing up, it was always the family time that I cherished the most. Christmas dinner with the family, hanging out with my brother all day, having a beer with my Dad - stuff like that.
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psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago
However the date of what we now call Christmas celebrates the autumn feast to consume the last of the fresh food and fattened beasts before winter.
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  paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Jesus and Mary did not celebrate Christmas.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Great point. Were they Zoroastrians?
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  logic,commonsenseposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Probably because there weren't any food banks to get a Christmas ham.
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  that's true.. but I am pretty sure that when the 3 wise men to celebrate what was in fact the first christmas, it was a part of sorts
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  exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  the first of the food banks started in the Old Testament
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  Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Would you be celebrating Christmas when one of your wives was about to give birth?
  
  Maybe I'm asking the wrong person...
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Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago
I just want to know what paarsurrey is smoking...
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  Milla Mahnoposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You mean they did? How do you know?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Frankinsense
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gamergirlposted 13 years ago
Christmas happens to be about two things:

Earning Money

and

The cyclic death and rebirth/birth of dozens of sun dieties, the most recent of which is Jesus. Hurray for recurring God-themes in history!

I still like the first purpose for christmas more, and wish I earned more. ;-)
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thisisoliposted 13 years ago
I think it's safe to say that Christmas stopped being about Christ a long time ago.
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  pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes agree.
  
  I rather like that the Christmas tree for the Winter Solstice represented the promise of renewal in the spring. Since our Christmas period is in the summer it wouldn't apply to us. But its fun anyway.
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psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago
...and that it started being about Christ an even longer time ago.
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  thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  and before that it wasn't even about Christ. :p
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gamergirlposted 13 years ago
There are reasons other than "not believing in Jesus" for mood changes during the winter months. Do some research on the topic without religious bias and you'll find some great answers.
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Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago
..But for the whole of the Southern Hemisphere it is not Winter.

Christ is the Jesus in Christmas ,but hey I like the big red fat guy
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  Greek Oneposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  thank you.. but I'm not THAT red
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  (ssshh..)
  
  Dont tell everyone
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  and Welcome to Walmart ,by the way ~~>
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paarsurreyposted 13 years ago
Jesus and Mary did not celebrate Christmas; they also did not believe in Santa Claus.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Saint Nick..was not even born yet and definately not in the middle east!
  
  but Jesus knows all about Santa -oh yes he does
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Time4Travelposted 13 years ago
I wrote a hub on the commercialization of Christmas:
http://hubpages.com/hub/SavingChristmas
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gamergirlposted 13 years ago
Y'know.. I think it's kinda funny to see a hub decrying the commercialization of christmas with ads and amazon capsules and everything all over it. Funny in a.. "What the hell?" kind of way.
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xboxps3wowposted 13 years ago
most people don't care about the 'real' christmas and just enjoy the time spent together with family
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