As adults, we have an obligation to start teaching our children the very essence and real spirit of Christmas. I know that as a kid, most of us were conditioned to believe that Christmas is all about Santa Claus and material gifts. It is the birth of Jesus Christ that must be truly remembered and celebrated on Christmas day and by no means it don't need to be overshadowed by Santa Claus or any material gifts in this world. Let us not forget to remind ourselves and our children that Santa Claus is just only a symbol for Christmas and it is indeed Jesus Christ (and all the great things He has done for mankind) who is the true central figure of what Christmas is all about.
I totally agree with you and I, myself don't want to teach my children about Santa Claus and It bothers me when other people talk to my children about it,.. so I kindly ask them not to do it,..especially family members...They disagree with me and say that I'm taking my children's dreams away by not instructing them to believe in santa claus... I am a Christian... no denomination so I'm very passionate about this issue.
Mona, I can understand your concern about not letting secular symbols such as Santa Claus muddle up the importance of Christmas and the story of the Nativity to your children. However, you have a lot of influence in teaching them about the meaning of Christmas and teach your children that the birth of Christ is the reason for Christmas and how His birth has influenced many, such as Santa Claus to celebrate by expressing generosity and good will.
I know that there are some churches who really frown on the Santa Claus figure. In fact one of my friends had a pastor, who when he was little used to caution the kids by saying that the name Santa if you reconfigured the letters turns out to be "Satan" and scared the kids. We laughed over it now. But I think it's a shame for a child not to be part of the Santa Claus spirit, it teaches the children good virtues such as kindness, good will to fellow men, etc. A reinforcement of what His birth means to Christians.
The word Christmas originated as a compound meaning "Christ's Mass". It is derived from the Middle English Christemasse and Old English Cristes masse, a phrase first recorded in 1038. "Cristes" is from Greek Christos and "masse" is from Latin missa (the holy mass).
The date of December 25th is not known to be the actual birthday of Jesus however, it is likely that it was chosen because it was the winter solstice on the ancient Roman calender, and the date of several various winter festivals
It's nice to see that other people out there know that Jesus' date of birth is not mentioned in the Bible and was most likely in the fall. Also, the 3 wise men did not visit baby Jesus in the manger. He was already a bit older and living in a house with Mary and Joseph...
I agree whith what you say about Santa Clause,Jesus is what it is all about. We should be giveing to Jesus,not each other gifts. The Wise Men gave to Jesus gifts not each other,so the gift should be the life Jesus saved on the Cross,and this is all who believe him to be the Son of God. We should give of ourselfs,but not just at this time of year to our Lord and Saviour but every day that we are blissed with.
Christmas has nothing to do with Y`shua --even though they use Him as the "insert birthday savior here" and get all woohoo, warm and fuzzy.
A host of pagan rituals have been indoctrinated by christians --also a pagan title, including most of the Hanukkah festivity ingredients. Now, millions of good religious folk celebrate a single birthday as the biggest pagan day ever, next to "easter".
Just look in any church or behind any pulpit and tell me if you don't see a christmas tree -symbolic of a Terebinth tree, a poisonous flower arrangement, holly wreath, mistletoe -a sexual stimulant like catnip, etc etc.
Then grandiose via lavish gift giving and sentimental moments... It is also the highest suicide, heart attack ratio day of the calendar year.
I guess most Christians believe Jesus wants them to go into debt for Christmas or they wouldn't be doing it...at least that's my thought.
I think the truth is we love Christmas because it's a spectacle of music, gifts, love, and sharing. We naturally want to go all out for it. The problem is getting carried away with all the "things" that don't really matter much.
Whether you believe in Jesus or not, most people love Christmas because it's a time of giving and love. If you focus on that, you should be able to retain a bit of sanity.
I think it's very interesting that even many people who don't believe in Jesus as the Christ and who don't really get involved at Christmas find themselves depressed at Christmas time. It's inexplicable. They feel something sad so there must be something to all this love and giving. As a collective consciousness, to bad it only happens once a year.
I don't go crazy with spending money at Christmas. For me it is just a time to concentrate on peaceful things. And the Santa tradition is a nice one for kids, as long as you also show them the joy of giving.
I think it's more about teaching children the value of family, sharing (humanity), and getting SOME good food, gifts, and entertainment (not to the point of excessive greed and gluttony, just enough to keep us warm through the coldest season.)
As an adult, Santa does seem like an embodiment of excess and over-corporatization. A child doesn't see it in the same way (hopefully), to them Santa is something like an angel spirit and in many families is associated with the mother and father who plays his role.
I think there are many progressive ideas in Christianity as there are in similar beliefs like Buddhism, but I don't think anyone should tell another what/how to worship unless they are physically harming someone. Just as I think it's petty and cruel to attack Christians on this holiday, I defend the rights of other beliefs.
Whatever your background, I wish you all a great holiday. Keep your family strong and close.
I believe that Christmas is open to anybody whether one believes in it or not. I also don't judge anyone based on their religious practices and beliefs. Judgement will come only from God whether one has a God or not.
it is one thing to observe something that may be wrong, and another to start talking about it, some Christians do judge just like others but you can not judge all by the actions of some, that is wrong, All non-believers do not worship satan, but some do, so is it ok to judge all non-believers as satan worshipers?
Greek I think Mark is going to Hell and I'm not afraid of saying it...
You’re only proving Mark’s point about judging
Mark Knowles Christmas is about Judgment.
Judgment is only part of Christmas since my Mother is an atheist too. Wait a few year until judgment Day comes, then you can tell them, “I told you so” , like many other times before. Then they will ignore you Mark and they will go on their merry way
Greek I can see your point. Never was a Yoda type so woefully under-serving of his aspiring young (you are kinda young right?) apprentice as MK. I warrant you'd be making hundreds, maybe thousands of $$$s had he taken you calmly under his wing. *sighs*
All that lost revenue. Are you going to take him to task about all that he owes you? I mean ... it's going to be his fault when you have a Bob Cratchett Christmas. No Santa Clause. Timmy to the workhouse.
I think Mark was named after someone a bit more closely related. Or maybe it's because he made his mark from the moment he drew breath. A nice appropriate name eh?
You have faith? In?
As for satan, he's not overly keen on the internet. I hear he likes to be more personal, insidious. Messes with minds and all that. Or didn't you realise? You're more likely to learn NLP than SEO if you ask him for help.
And as for the OP - yes it is. I have asked Santa for some Pandora jewelry. I expect it there, on the 25th. And when it arrives I will duly take a photograph and display it on the forum as proof of his existence.
Amen to that,but there is one draw back, when we tell our children about Santa Claus we teach them how to lie,just as it is with Easter we lie about the Easter Bunny. I became a lier at an early age due to the lie that was told to me. When our children grow up this is what makes it easy for them to lie to us because we first lie to them.I believe a lot of the liers ended up in Washington D.C. cause now they lie to the Country.
If not for the Birth of Christ there would be no Christmas for people to lie to about Santa Claus.This would really be a whatever because without Jesus there would be no story to tell truth or the lie of Santa Claus.
Keep on saying it, because the more people know that Satan did start this lie that has to do with a man in a red suit,Satan is pictured to be red,mmmm no horn on him but the horns ride with his flying deer.Time to end this lie about Santa which might end lieing , wishful thinking
For me its not about Santa or Jesus or anything like that. I don't follow organised religion. We decorate our house in an understated, traditional kind of way, no flashing lights hanging from the house etc. We buy each other presents. We have all grown out of the Santa age, but growing up, it was always the family time that I cherished the most. Christmas dinner with the family, hanging out with my brother all day, having a beer with my Dad - stuff like that.
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