Do you think that a lot of christians have lost their faith in Christ?
No. I think many have given it up though.
I know a number of Christins that have lost their faith in religion, that say that their faith in God is stronger.
I also am in that group.
It sounds like a contradiction.
To be a Christian is to have faith in Christ. So, to lose faith in Him is to loose your Christianity (in the extreme). However, most likely, Christians loose faith in the Church System, or it's leadership. Then there are those who seem to put faith in their faith, (not sure I understand what that is, exactly, but a lot of people use these terms). I suspect, they have grown weary, or have became backslidden. These would not be ones that lost their hope or salvation.
To those who have been Born Again, it is a place where testing times reveals their true character, and commitment.
Loosing heart and losing faith is not the same thing. I think I'm describing loosing heart, or courage.
I don't know. Doubting leads to questions and questions can lead to frustration or confirmation.
If your faith is never tested, how do you know how strong it its?
Thomas doubted honestly and got his answer.
If people lose their faith it is of no concern to you or anyone.
I think a lot of Christians are being diluted until they give up..
God never said this life was easy. Christ Jesus actually said blessed are those who are persecuted.
Not many people who happily accept this fact of being Christian. Especially now that through being Americans they've come to be accustomed to their "rights"..
And once the 'pride' enters the mind, it's a hard pill to swallow to rid one of the disease......
It's hard sometimes for me to stay humble in this world of provoking people.
Though I should realise.. I prefer they mock me, and get upset easier when they mock God. But I've come to remember that God can certainly take care of His own, and that I was told to be humble.
If you provoke people into "persecuting" you - as you are doing - it is actually called, "starting a fight. "
Little wonder your religion causes so many fights.
You may feel like others make fun of you and are cruel to you sometimes, and I don't doubt that people do pick on you, but Christians in the West are far from persecuted. You have "In God We Trust" on everything, you have your politicians all claiming to be of the same religion. How can you say you're persecuted when most Americans in political power are or claim to be Christian? That is called being the persecuting class, not the persecuted.
Many people doubt. I think their faith is pushed to the limit by the insanity of the rabble rousing fundamentalist stand. Doubt is good. It makes you think. Blind faith is not faith. It is blindness. Truth is all that matters. Doubt is simply searching for the truth. Anyone who believes in anything more than this life does more good for their spirit than they do harm, by searching for the truth. In my opinion.
I agree. I think it's healthy for anyone, whether they're religious or not, to question themselves. If nothing else it's an affirmation of why you believe what you do, because when we doubt we think about why we do believe the things we believe, and we're reminded of our own reasoning.
Exactly. And refusal to question represents fear, or arrogance. Neither position should anyone allow themselves to remain in longer than it takes to recognize it is where they stand. There are no absolutes for life's most intriguing questions. There is always room for doubt. In my opinion.
@just Doubt is good. It makes you think. Blind faith is not faith. It is blindness....perfect...couldn't have said better than that...and to @ts it is good that Christians are doubting their faith...it is sign of better times ahead...
Now we need to get the message out to the muslims and our horizons might brighten considerably.
why only Muslims , every religion , i guess...but Muslims are more strict to adherence than other faiths...they used to be open and introspecting ones when they were dominating force in past but once they became colonized by west , they became more and more strict...i guess fear might have been the reason...
Whatever their reasons they have produced too much violence and bloodshed. Once they recognize that mohamed was no prophet I'm sure they will see the fallacy of their ways.
I referenced islam only because they are the devil that dogs our search for peace at the moment. You are correct though. All religions have the potential to step into their shoes.
now why would they do that?...ofcourse muhammad was prophet according to them and in matter of faith all faith are right as per believer of respective faith...all think they have key to truth and all think other person is clueless...can Christians accept that jesus was not son of god?...they would say it is truth that jesus was god or son of god and so on....in same way muslims would say muhammad was prophet which came after jesus the prophet...
Apparently I have touched on your agenda. Mohamed was no prophet. He was a warlord. Plain and simple. Do not expect the christians to question their faith, yet give quarter to the muslims.
A tad hypocritical, if you take the time to think.
Any religion that claims to have the word of god needs to step back and accept the fact that they might be wrong and do not have the right to push their agenda.
my agenda?...didnt get you?...i dont believe muhammad was prophet or christ was god...then how can promoting muhammad or christ be my agenda?
Sorry. I thought you were defending the muslim faith. They're all wrong, in my opinion. But whether I am right or wrong, they all need to accept the fact that idle speculation on the truth should never lead to a violent reaction because of a conclusion one comes to on the answer.
We could all be wrong, and might feel quite foolish when we come to the truth.
"We could all be wrong, and might feel quite foolish when we come to the truth. "...quite right...i agree to you...
LOL Dude where have you been?
Everybody knows pisean and if he is religious, I am the pope!!!
Fix the problems in your own backyard before starting wars with other religious factions.
I've been working on that problem Beelzedad, but the agressive militant atheist is a much bigger problem than I first imagined.
Yes, I'm sure you do consider atheists a big problem as they are not accepting to Kristians Kausing Konflict.
just_curious and pisean282311 both said
"We could all be wrong, and might feel quite foolish when we come to the truth."
I am almost positive that you are correct.
That we are ALL wrong, Theists and Atheist alike.
Picture it as a father and twelve children.
The father sees a problem that one child is doing so the father tells that child ... if only you do this one thing, you will do well.
Another child hears that advice and says ... If I do only that one thing, I will do well. Well, that child didn't have the same problem as the first child had, so that advice was incorect for him.
Religion has done that. "If I ONLY do this, I will do well."
Every religion in the world does have its good points ... and those that are not so good ones.
I think that the biggest problem is that we can not make a law and put it down on paper ... and cover all of the loopholes. Someone will always find a way to use that loophole to their own advantage or the disdvantage of others.
It seems that we are flawed that way.
BUT ... someone will say that that isn't a flaw, it is a streingth of character.
So, there we go!
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