Nothing but the ignorance and incapability to go through Vedas create complications. Otherwise it is complete in all the aspects. Only needs the concentration to grasp the subtle and minute presentation there in.
That completes it. First christian, then Islam, now Hindu....
This might be what they called apocalypse, or is it hell?
what? people feel threatened in this modern age by other religious faiths (or any religious faiths)? Good grief, people, grow up!
yes, I do get tired of nonsense, but there's no reason to spread fear about religions you don't agree with - what is all this apocalypse rhetoric? that's nonsense. And no, I don't agree that the Vedas are nonsense - these teachings, like many others in the world, contain ancient wisdom about many aspects of life- if you take away your fear of other cultures and the way they express life and how to live, you can learn and be enriched by their wisdom.
Some people like to discuss religious philosophy and don't turn it into arguement or useless demeaning comments - in this way they share knowledge and absorb new knowledge from each other. If you're really not interested in spiritual teachings, why come into the religious forums at all? Why jump on someone simply because they introduce a system of religious thought that is new to you? that is nonsense
Isn't bored to death same as apocalypse?,
I feel so!!
Ancient wisdom? Goat herders and war mongers wisdom? Doubtful!!
Oh! You think I know nothing about Vedas. I can even recite a good number of slokas from Bhagavad Gita(which is considered the essence of Vedas), which I doubt many Hindus can do.
If somebody really want to discuss, "Nothing but the ignorance and incapability to go through Vedas create complications", this is NOT how they should start discussion!
ah, well, you're right about the attitude that began this thread - I assumed it was because of language differences and not really intended as a controversial stance
I AM impressed that you can recite some of the Bhagavad Gita, which I feel contains much that is useful to our lives now, no matter whether it was goatherds or shepherds who originated it. Simple thinking sometimes cuts through miles of modern b.s. and I also appreciate the oral tradition that preserved teachings for us - not that I am well-educated about all of it, I just try to grasp simple thoughts to guide my day to day life, like the concepts of freedom being desireless, and acceptance helping us really see others for who they are and what we can all offer each other - blahdy blah blah - yes, I get bored by the parrots, but not by people who really try to connect with these simple teachings. Don't you agree that while some of these writings aren't appropriate for our life now, much of it is easily adapted to the way we live now. To me, that is an awesome, even holy, way to live - treasuring the complexity and abundance of life.
Now I go to eat a humble burrito and give thanks for the tortilla and the brave ancient traditions that brought it to me! even though I grew up with a family who never ate tortillas in their house -
TO be frank, there is one thing I really like about Gita, near its end, it says, " I have given you all the wisdom, now do as you deem fit", that I have never heard in any other religion.
the Boddhi Dharma (sp?) in Buddhism says basically the same thing - it seems to me that a lot of "modern" popular wisdom originated in the Vedas and also the Dharmas of Buddhism - also the Sufis - all those great parables and stories that come from what we call "eastern" religions usually say somewhere that they're not trying to prescribe how we should act, but more trying to introduce some thoughts to help us decide how to act - big difference between that and the way some Christians behave like its "do it our way or else"! If you look beyond the "animalistic" teachings of Shinto you find useful and wise teachings - it is foreign to us in the west but foreign is not necessarily bad.
Joseph Campbell pretty much pulled together all these various wisdoms and made a great life-long study of how humans develop these systems to help them relate to what would otherwise be chaotic and frightening in the world. It is natural for us all to need to order things - even our thoughts about things - what we call "belief systems" He was very awesome - and approached religion with a kind of scientific, systematic, anthropological base of reason. I learned a lot from him. The Hero With a Thousand Faces - is an introduction to his theories and observations about how people in very different cultures come up with essentially similar hero myths that are the foundations of all the religions - he started from an assumption of similarities instead of differences and in this way educated millions of us about myths and religion. I feel like going back to his books now and finding what I missed before.
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