The Bible
The Lord told me that I shouldn't be amazed that people deny that the Bible is authentic. After all, it is not the Bible that they take issue with but its message. The arguments they use to dispute the Bible are only excuses used to cover the fact that they just don't believe it or the God it reveals. They argue that there are contradictions in the Bible when, in reality, these are different books written by different people with different voice and different perspectives but the same message. The Lord revealed to me that even if there were not these "perceived" contradictions in the Bible, these same disputers would argue and say that the Bible sounds too much like one voice to have been written by so many people over such a long period of time. In short, there would be no pleasing these people regardless of which voice the Bible used. What is your take?Know exactly what you mean Brenda.
Scoffers and mockers are not searching ,they have found a new way to get attention! Remember kids in the playground who called other kids names-attention getters-
But even though we have quacks in our society that pop up from time to time ,I see that doesnt stop people going to the Doctors
What an evil, angry, insulting Christian. There is absolutely no basis to your statement whatsoever.
Maybe you should learn the art of argument, instead of believing in abject nonsense.
What could actually be more STUPID than a grown-up believing in Santa Claus?!
Think about your beliefs before you spout your emotional childish tantrums at me.
...and still your God is imaginary GARBAGE!
I have faith.
Its what I believe.
You dont have faith.
You dont believe.
Seems pretty easy to figure for me.
I don't have to prove anything to you!! BUT I will keep speaking about God whenever I want.If I gotta listen to you ,then you will hear me too
Its a big world, room for us both bossy boots!Calm down ,all this hyped up drama is not good for your health
That's bizarre. You and I must be on the same wavelength this morning. I just told someone a similar thing in another thread.
Actually, He wants to speak to you.
What needs to happen is, you need to get Him "inside" your heart.
As long as He's outside of your "mind", you will not hear Him, anyway!
What are you expecting?
A megaphone from the sky? (tongue in cheek)
It amazes me how so many want Him to "dance to their tune".
If He is God, (and LORD), ought it not be the other way round?Jesus died for your sins.
Rose again on the 3rd day
Victory over sin and death.
P.S How did you escape this indoctrination
Off with your head!haha Eaglekiwi.
Awesomely simple Truthful and fun post.Thanks Brenda
God protecting my joy with a shield of humour I guess
I love your well thought out posts
Wise and uncluttered.
We are all like a piece of thread and God weaves us exactly where he wants,dont ya think?
Sometimes its sad ,because I see only the raggy knotted side ,ie: mockery, critising,slander BUT God holds it all together and I know He never gives up and one day we will see and know His finished work...from the right side.
Beautiful and perfect in every way!
Is that all you see in that? Do you really not entertain the concept that God is the Creator and can do what He wants to with His creation?
Jesus died; his human body suffered and died. But not His Spirit. We all have a spirit inside us. If we accept Christ, we have the Holy Spirit inside us.
It's not hard to believe that Jesus died and rose again. He's alive!
God didn't kill His own son. He offered Him, gave Him, yes, gave Jesus the opportunity to save the world. Jesus laid down His own life willingly. And Jesus was God in the flesh. The book of John tells us this. Hard for people to understand sometimes, but...
I'll have to save further input for later. I'm too sleepy. But, even if we debate and disagree, I always appreciate the opportunity to talk about my Savior! So thanks. Maybe see ya later?!Man can not forgive or destroy sin.
We /me/you do not have that power.
An ideal world would be one ,where no one needed forgiveness or justice for wrong doing etc ,BUT we dont live in an ideal world...
Dont you see that mankind is out of control, he seeks power at any cost ,and pleasure without consequence.
A broken heart is a high price to pay.
Foolish ways make fools out of the wise
In answer to a couple of things in your post.
Jesus died to remove the outcome of eveuntual consequence of sin ie..dead forever! and to provide a bridge ,way back for man to reconcile to God the Father.
In line with the culture of the time,an unblemished sacrifice was required by Jewish law-
The sins of mankind required a sacrifice without blemish-Jesus was that sacrificial lamb!
So yes people still sin ,but with remorse and change the option is now available to reconciliate with God (the Judge) through accepting His son,His sacrifice...
That is what the scripture means ,There is one death known to man...the other is to be born again -spiritually...
- Emile Rposted 12 years ago
0What is my take? Hard to say. I couldn't get past the fact that you repeatedly said God told you. Do you honestly think he's talking to you and sharing an opinion on what others think? That might be a problem.
I'm fine Mr. Mason.
You're a bit of an oddity to me. Putting words in people's mouths then uttering inane pleasantries.
I don't argue that people feel as if they are connected, or that they don't feel as if moved by the spirit. I do have serious reservations about people who claim they've had a conversation and that conversation includes an almighty god sharing other people's thoughts. It sounds presumptuous and I consider it to be an attempt at insulting without taking responsibility for your own actions. Something christians are quite proficient at. If you don't like my words. That's fine with me. I'm intelligent enough and grounded in reality firmly enough to understand that my opinion is simply that.
What else did you say I said?.....oh. The disciples. I see no reason to argue that point. Did it happen the way you think it did? I don't know. I don't care. The more important question to me is what was the point? What was the message they were attempting to convey to us? You and I could go round and round with that and we would never agree. Let's don't and say we did. You guys' hate filled interpretation always depresses me.
So, (when in Rome) how have you been? Is the baby still down for a visit?
Edit: I just realized half of your post was to Ernest. Sorry for responding to the part that wasn't directed at me.
The Bible tells believers to spread the Gospel,so your arguement is with the author-God
Awww - thanks. LOLOL Empty, self serving rhetoric from you? Shocker.
What nonsense. I have read it. It is not an instruction book from a Creator.
How funny you ignore the bits about women preachers and not getting involved in protracted arguments with intelligent, educated people who reject majik.
Looks like you should take your own advice and actually read it instead of selectively using it to attack people and then blame some one else.
Why would I want to behave as you do? People such as yourself are the reason I began to question in the first place.
Thanks.
Congratulations and thank you!
You have successfully, succinctly and accurately portrayed and exhibited every single point I made in my post. Further, you exceeded all expectations and poured on the derision by adding insult to injury and threatening me to accept it or not. Truly inspirational.
Oh, so now you want to have a discussion about the Bible, after that?
The story of the great flood was clearly stolen from The Epic of Gilgamesh and added into the old myth book by the unknown writer(s) of Genesis.
Or did your god merely get the idea from the previous saga because he had no original ideas of his own?What if? It may also be? None are impossible to resolve? So where did the water come from which covered the entire earth? Where did it go afterwards? Giant sponges?
You tell me....you said none of the tales were impossible to resolve.
Your suspicions would be unfounded as usual, L77S. I am open to anything which would clearly show evidence for a god or gods. I've looked for over a half century at all sorts of supposed evidence. Nothing so far.
Perhaps it is those who claim to know what their god wants which makes it harder to swallow. Why in heck would he choose these people?
What a coincidence, I found the same code! But it was in Catch-22 instead of the bible.
I am truly devastated by your opinion of me, L77S. And thanks so much for the pity, I know it is indeed heart felt. Let's see how a christian really emulates Jesus.
You described me as, shallow, showing "some" intelligence(you are indeed gracious)one-dimensional, lazy, arrogant, only using half my creativity, not adding anything constructive...did I miss anything?
Weren't you the guy who claimed god parted the traffic (coulda been the Red Sea but I get you prophets mixed up sometimes}while you escaped from the mass of internal combustion powered chariots?
Yep, I want to be like you guys!
I realize it makes no sense trying to explain the bible to atheist (the devils children) you see they are so stupid they do not believe in GOD yet they believe in good and evil. Then who promotes either or must be a good being and must be a bad being. They are fooled into believing the Bible is false by satan's dillusion. Yet they have not and will not realize that the same DEVIL who invoke them with his lies knows more about GOD than you and I.
Satan was the bright and morning star. God's covering cherub and he was kicked out of heaven for his deciet. HE BELIEVES THE BIBLE, HE WAS WITH GOD AND HE IS LAUGHING AT ALL YOU FOOLS WHO DOESN'T.
You ATHEIST search and seek out every iota of the bible to contradict and argue etc. But what other book do you all do that in. Have ever argue with a book Einstein or Thomas Edison wrote? to say this is false and that is false? no you gobble it down like fools. BUT YOU QUESTION THE CREATOR, so out of place.
Have a bless day, and repent before its to late. Because if you dont you will find out their is a GOD and his BIBLE is absoultely trueGosh, I'm awfully glad you "winked" at the end there, I was beginning to think your righteous insults and pious threats were serious. Whew!
Then stand on your head, turn three times and whistle dixi.
You may arrive at the same conclusions.
Randy, that is a very intelligent question to ask. It makes sense! Think about this, if you would. JC received beatings and nails being driven into his hands and feet. They mocked him, spat on him and made fun of him!
Now a days, this still happens. We mock each each other, hurt each other by stabbing each other in the backs. We bear false witness. All these things JC had to go through and then to hang on a cross, bleeding to death. To have your own dad turn his back away from you.
How many children feel that their mom's and dad's don't love them? Then JC, had to see a flash of everything millions of us sinners have done over our whole lifetimes! Stuff he knows we are going to do, before we actually do it. To witness all the hate and anger and bitterness. Can you imagine?
So, my dear friend Randy, he did scarifice quite a bit. He gave up the remainder of his years on this earth. He basically was murdered for the sake of you, me and everyone else.
I think I owe my physical and emotional life to him. He has comforted me when I was at the end. He has brought joy in my life, with allowing me to take very good care of 7 cats and 2 pups that were sick. He has allowed me to find the words to express to you, that JC is pretty cool. I know I have never felt as much love as I have with JC. The bad days still come, and yes, I still find the roadblocks. I know as long as I am doing what he wants, in the direction he wants it. I will get my miracle. I never thought I would ever be a successful Published Author. Who me? No way!
The Family Court system chewed me up and spit me out. They said I was a hopless nut case!
Look at me now! I am sure you if had just a grain of mustard seed of faith, you would see a miracle in your life too! Take care.Time for the top ten....again...
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.Hello earnestshub! You are pretty darn amasing! You have inspired me to do two things. One, is I would like for your permission to research your questions, and see if I can answer them. I will write ahub about it. I will need your permission and you will get credit for the idea (s). Does this sound fair to you? And..the second part is this. A Spotlight Creation Inspiration challenge. I think it would be interesting to see how many answers and versions we get? Then, you and I...I will send more in a direct e-mail! You are awesome!
Maybe you should look at the top ten list again?
You have my permission to do whatever you like.
I'd also be happy to convert to christianity or any other religion (even though I am a born again christian unless that can be revoked.) If you can offer any proof at all for any god.
I don't belief that JC was more than a compilation myself.
Apollonius of Tyana was a much better candidate for the title of the son of god.- Holmes221bposted 12 years ago0
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