Leaving the Hub Pages, I may cry, this is our last goodbye.

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   Castlepalomaposted 12 years ago

   This thread is the last before leaving the Hub Pages, I meet many lovely, intelligent, and interesting people. Yet had my fill and feeling a little off balance from all the downing of souls of other persons online. When one stands for middle ground, that middle road can get you run over by one-sided people. A lot of Canadians were once more middle ground like; until we broke traditional peace, then went over to Afghanistan to kill poor people. Clearly now realizing, I’m a lover not a fighter, so silently let them be themselves as I remain myself.
   
   I’ve learned from many beautiful here and now it’s just time to give back. English words are not my natural talent at all, so my visual arts will express it a 1000 times better from all the delightful and outstanding things the hub pages have taught me. A few of you are truely yourselves and do connect with the world and treat it well.
   
   Sorry, I do not understand term like non-religious, religious perspective or deeply religious atheist.  I don’t get all the disagreeing groups of god which is manmade then watch them fights over which group of souls belong to God, then watch each over ego group assume they are the chosen ones to master the afterlife better than they mastered life here on earth.
   
   In modern Theological terms, the word is generally reserved for religious groups in Theology essence of any world religion lies solely in the answer to the word 'god' which can be misrepresented and often blows off that everyone is God which works well within my circle of realationships. There is no wrong path, since it’s about experiencing life. Live life and embrace wonder and the joy in living gracefully with style.
   
   There are 1.1 billion people are considered non- religious or spiritual sided like myself. Then most these non religious have an open mind about religious belief, especially the existence of God.  I don’t really try to resolve the various contradictions in life, because the world will change all on its own.
   
   I Do subscribed to a system of loving attitudes and practices set towards the service and living to a person’s own nature, acceptance of nature and aid those who are extended expressions of my nature. I own nothing and merely passing through items from outside of my nature within nature.
   
   Love everyone, peace

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      suzettenaplesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have read some of your hubs and they are very good.  I find your English excellent.  I will miss you here on hub pages.  I am sorry to see you go.  I feel badly that others have brought you down or made you feel sad.  Yes, there are so many topics about religion, but I just ignore them.  What you have expressed, I believe also.  It is better to be spiritual and be open and accepting of all beliefs, than to insist on one religious belief being correct.  I just ignore these types of people.  I think hub pages just is a little mirror of what is happening in the world today.  The world is a nasty, mean place; everyone seems to be unhappy about something; no one seems to realize we are just all in this together; because of tough economic times, I think some people are frightened about the future and wonder what is going to happen with the world such a mess.  All we can do is just keep on keeping on and do the best we can in a confusing world.  I hope you continue to write and shine you light somewhere else on the Internet whether it be in writing or drawing/painting/illustrating.  And, I hope to come across your work.  Good Luck in whatever your pursue and know that there were some people on hub pages who appreciated your writing and your work.

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         Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Saying my writing is good, is cheering things up and will write some on the hubs, It more about these really tight deadline on this eco village I'm building, one third of the world is homeless I  got a good solution for much of it.
         
         Silly me, playing with a paper tiger.

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      VENZKHVAMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      WHY YOU ARE LEAVING

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         Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         time more than anything

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   habeeposted 12 years ago

   You're leaving? Why?? You will be missed. I wish you all the best!

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, habee for your good hearted thoughts.
      
      From the last thread, I won't be missed that much, I can be of better service focusing my expressing on my visual art like SomewayOuttaHere pointed out.

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   Mekenzieposted 12 years ago

   Castle, although I have just met you .. I sense you are a very kind man.  The hubs need more people who are compassionate and have good hearts.  I have always tried to accept people right where they are.  There is a reason for everyone's belief or lack of. 
   
   I personally stay away from futile argumentative forumns .. they profit little.  My reason for being on the hubs is to grow as a writer, share my story and learn from other writers.
   
   I'm off to take a peek at your hubs and hope you will reconsider your decision.
   
   God Bless!
   Mekenzie

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well, this is the place to be if you have the word writers desire, words have been around for 5000 year where visual art for 30,000 years and still giving off a 1000s words per picture. You’re off to a good start knowing everything has a reason. 
      
      By practice and desire I’m a sculptor and a great story teller in 3D. The writing has improved enough to know how to hire a very fine professional writer for my movie making in the future. Will play around the very odd time with some of the hubs, yet online has gone too sour.

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         Reality Bytesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Inflation has denigrated an image to be worth only 625 words in the current economic turmoil. 
         
         JK, good luck with your art.

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   Have fun and take care.

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You too, no worries

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   starme77posted 12 years ago

   dont know ya cuz I been away for quite some time ...but good luck to ya and best wishes

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sad to say, I'mm on my wayy, don't know when, if ever, be back agaain.
      
      Enjoy writing, I did, some did'nt like it

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   Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

   Best wishes with your next endeavors (although changing one's mind about leaving for good is always an option     ).

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It's like having lead feet in a bad dream, I don't think I can move myself and others with words. From that last thread with cagsil it felt like I had very little human value at all.
      
      Nothing  like mastering  museum displays, playgrounds, or off grid eco villages, sculpture and films where energy creates energy and can be of service and kindness just pours out.
      
      
      Maybe my deal is being a doer, not a talker

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   AEvansposted 12 years ago

   Don't leave. Your opinions count just like all others. Everyone has there own beliefs. My recommendation is to take a break from the forums for awhile and just focus on writing. All of us have had to get out of here at one time or another. You are an artist so let your creative juices flow.

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The visual artist forum is small here, and the word artist is huge and it feels like I'm doing word masturbation and sometimes i feel like an empty shell.

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         AEvansposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You are not an empty shell. You are full of life and color. You are an artist. :)Creative and think about all that you do. What a brilliant mind.

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            Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            The main reason for taking off is to focus so much more time doing the art and green eco village. I'm thinking of joining a more spiritual sided thinking forum if I do ever get enough time again, and dabble with the hubs here.
            
            Thank you

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   TerryGlposted 12 years ago

   And tell me, what will you be doing with your account? Are you going to sell it or perhaps give it away?

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You can sell your account?!! How much money are we talking?
      
      No it's more likely to make much more money in an establish art field.
      
      I'M keeping a few hubs up, for writing practice, if not nothing else better to do

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   2uesdayposted 12 years ago

   Just an idea - You could stay and avoid the more controversial forums as many HubPage writers -  myself included do.
   
   Even if you leave you could leave your the hubs you have written  in case you have a change of heart, or if you wish you could un-publish them until you wish to move them. Your hubs will be visited by people from search-engines so you do not need an audience from the forums.
   
   Hope all works out well for you, not sure what has caused this but then I only visit the 'lighter side of life', learning or entertaining forums.

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      Kangaroo_Jaseposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Controversy, what controversy????

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Living light is an enlighten way to live, bring the shield of foresight. A few hubs will still be around.
      
      After adventuring the wild blue yonder all over this planet, one foot has been on the ground. Some think because I build sand castles, my whole head is stuck into the sand.  Let them have their augments, debates, their endless controversial then let them call each other irrational and treat a human/spiritual being indecent.  If they cannot handle confronting questions about themselves and their limited minded group, they won't be solving many healthy problems or advancing themselves toward a happy life.

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         Home Girlposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         It looks like somebody upset you here. Don't give up.  Write more hubs and come back. Share your talents with people. Some will laugh at you, some will appreciate your art. You never know. 

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            Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Just annoyed, I would be up set if i were in a hospital
            
            Nobody will laugh with me???
            
            
            kidding

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    Beth100posted 12 years ago

    CP, your English is very good.    There are many, including myself, where English is not our mother tongue.  We learn and we achieve.  You have achieved this goal with English.  Writing is a good way to hone the skill and learn the language in more depth.
    
    Controversy is everywhere.  I don't like it myself.  Like you, I'm a lover, not a fighter.  If you ever read my works, you would see why. 
    
    Everything on line has to be taken with tongue in cheek.  Sometimes, there is truth out there, other times not.  The written word on line can be misinterpretted easily.  Because of this, there are nuances in spoken words that are lost when it is typewritten.  Alas, the challenges of being a writer - to express those thoughts, feelings in a manner that can be clearly understood by the reader.  This doesn't always happen in the forums.
    
    Artists are emotional people.  I know this from personal experience.  But that does not mean that we are valueless as you stated above.  Our self value comes from within, not from the people that we meet, whether on line or face to face. 
    
    The peace that we all seek will come to those when they are ready to accept it.
    
    In your journey, I wish that you find what you seek and are able to attain what you set as a goal.
    
    Til our paths cross again, as they surely will.
    
    Peace and light.

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       Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       That was kind,
       
       I was just taken back a step, because never had so many people on me so negative before. At the least it humbling, I know better than this about my own human or spiritual value. Cagsil reminds some of my atheist Mother who was always trying to humble me down.
       
       Thank you

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          Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          

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          Beth100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          CP, this is a tight community and everyone here reads, listens and are not abash to tell you what they think.
          
          I will tell you why you received so many negative comments.  The error was opening a thread about another person -- regardless of the intent, it is construed as gossiping, rude and an attempt to gain a following to heckle the other person.
          
          You opened this thread to say good bye to everyone, yet you have turned it into a forum to downplay and to blame Cagsil for your departure.  Again, this is not well received by others.
          
          If your reason for leaving is because you and Cagsil do not see eye to eye on issues, then leave it at that and be gentleman and not blame him.  Your leaving is solely your choice.  Only you can stop accessing your account to write.
          
          I am not being harsh with you. I am simply providing some feedback so that you can understand why you received the reception that you did in your other thread.
          
          I hope that you do not take offense or feel that I am attacking you.  Please take this as a Canadian playing the middle ground of keeping peace.  That's what we are good at and world reknown for. 

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             Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             I was already ready to leave the hub pages, and then just went for one last question building up inside, to find out if Cagsil was agnostic or atheist as I asked him many times before and never gave me an answer and still has not.
             
             Then all these fans jump in and over protected him from this question and then Cagsil did his famous word dance. Then it felt like things were getting ugly and because so persistent (no anger) it turned into this.
             
             I love my atheist Mother very much, saying Cagsil is trying to humble me down was meant in a good way, for my balance.

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    Randy Godwinposted 12 years ago

    Heck, blame it on the snake.  Everyone else does!    Was it something I said?

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       Beth100posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Randy!! Snakes don't talk -- they only HSSSSSS!!!! 

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          Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          HA!  Try and convince Eve of that, Beth!  Care for an apple? 

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       Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Randy
       It was'nt the snake, I think it was Satan flying around on bat wings heating us all up
       
       I think Ive hanging around too christian for too much long online, it starting to fry my brains.
       
       I you miss you Bud,
       
       I really enjoy all the history we shared,, i hope we hook again on the anicent early American history and take it a step.
       
       Just been so BUSY and side tracked with this eco village .

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          Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Always up to discuss history, CP.  Even without any religious connotations to cause strife if you prefer.   Whatever you decide to do, good luck!

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    Rastamermaidposted 12 years ago

    I've followed you for awhile now,and I find your hubs very informative,full of life and very good content.I will miss you but I understand.
    
    I'm like another hubber,don't leave just stay away from forums. After I leave you this message I'll probably never reply to a forum again. I've been attacked by one hubber inparticular. They attacked months ago and so I laid off the forums,and soon as I reply straight to another hubber they jump in.
    
    I often wonder is this because this is the only way they get attention so they look for easy targets like me. I'm a positive person and I wasn't raised to down people,talk bad about people or anything of the like.So it really hurt my feelings for a minute.Then I realized they don't know me and I've asked them to leave me alone.
    
    Why would anyone attack anyone online?
    
    Don't cry and don't leave,many of us really appreciate you and your hubs.

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       Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I can handle myself from all kind of attacks and from all kinds of people. It's not that, I’m much better at being of service in the visual arts and not having nearly enough time spent on this eco village.
       
       SomewayOuttaHere,  You have been lots of fun, what you said just confirms my already made up mind that my time and expression is better served in what I love best, art and green homes.
       
       The hubs will still be there, say hello and if you’re driving by Creston BC, I will be one of the rare ones standing erect...

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          SomewayOuttaHereposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          ...that's a beautiful area....beautiful spot for taking photos - passed by via crow's nest in July - didn't see you...ha ha ha....i'm not quite sure what you mean by 'rare ones standing erect' - must be an inside creston joke...later...gater...i'll be sure to wave next time.

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             Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             About 60% to 70% are Seniors that are bent over in Creston

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    SomewayOuttaHereposted 12 years ago

    oh no...CP, don't go away...I hope I didn't add to your hurt in any way...I think your sandcastles are beautiful from the little bit I've seen - you seem to be a very good person...and an artist with lots to say...lots to add to the threads...more to express - visually or through words...
    
    ..cheer up!...from a fellow Canuck living in the middle of the pacific....peace...xo

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    rebekahELLEposted 12 years ago

    Don't leave because of a forum thread. I'm sure most people here are genuinely good people and use the forums to say whatever we feel like at the moment. I don't think forum threads should be taken too seriously. I'm sure if you left, you would be missed. I hope you'll reconsider after some reflection. Maybe spend less time in the forums. I have learned that most things are not to be taken personally.
    Best to you.

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       Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       People are generally good, I learn a few humor mocking tips from earnestshub that did help in keeping it all light.
       
       It's not that Forum thread, it just too many other things piling up from out side of these hub pages, more than anything and must spend more time loving what I do best.

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    Beth100posted 12 years ago

    Now that you have explained yourself, I can understand. 
    
    Up until this point, and without knowing anything about you, one can only draw conclusions about intent.  And, for some, the conclusions were not nice.
    
    Stick around CP!  You've made some friends. 
    
    And, just remember, you can never satisfy everyone and not everyone can satisfy you.
    
    I hope you stay -- I'm glad that we crossed paths here. 

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       lapss321posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       although I have just met you .. I sense you are a very kind man.  The hubs need more people who are compassionate and have good hearts.  I have always tried to accept people right where they are.  There is a reason for everyone's belief or lack of. 
       <promotional link>

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          Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Very kind man
          
          Wow, thanks, just what I was aiming for.

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             Mekenzieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Castle,  the post fom lapss has been copied and pasted from my message to you earlier.  Can't believe it ... what's the point?

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                Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                That's funny; I should be thanking you.
                
                He also sent a promotion link for jewelry, like I might get all emotional and bye something

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                   Mekenzieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   Funny Castle - writing you with My words trying to get you to buy His product.  Crazy-making is what I say. 

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