What do you think Shadow people are?

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   kathyinmnposted 12 years ago

   I have seen a number of Shadow people in the past few years. There seems to be different types of them. My question to you is:
   
   What do you think Shadow people are?
   How many different types of Shadow people are there?

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I would imagine there is no definitive answer to that. They could be given the infinite nature of the universe, anything.

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      ptosisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Don't take this as rude but: it's from the anti-depression medication. Personal experience : max for Zoloft is 200 mg. a day - at that level, will see 'shadow people' on the edge of your vision. I've discussed this with another person who experienced the same thing on Zoloft.
      
      Lowered Zoloft medication and added serezone to avoid seeing the shadow people. Don't know the reason why these medications do this. Perhaps it is a tension on the eyes?
      
      When rubbing your eyes along the bridge of your nose - the dark round spots  from your fingers appears on the outside edges of your vision because everything  wee see is backwards and upside down just like a camera - it's our brain that turns everything normal.
      
      

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         Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         It's no surprise some folks might see "shadow people" while on psychotropics. Those circuit scramblers can do a lot of unpleasant things to a brain. The biggest majority of people experiencing the shadowman phenomena aren't on pharmo chemicals or anything else but are reporting exactly what they see, or rather what they don't see, as there are usually no distinctive facial features to be observed in the dark humanoid shapes whether the encounter is short or long.

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      jomineposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Depends on the level of one's psychosis!

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         Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         What, the willfully ignorant psychosis?

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      twosheds1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Imagination, the misinterpretation of natural phenomena, wishful thinking. I wear contacts, and often I can see the edge of them out of the corner of my eye, and it looks like there's something moving by me. I could interpret that as some near-invisible entity, but where is the evidence that it is anything but a natural occurence? Just because you don't know what something is doesn't make it supernatural.

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         Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Is it your opinion that we're scientifically aware of all the observable there is to observe in creation and the universe? Again, not every shadowman encounter concerns people seeing things out of the corner of their eye, although that's a good point with the contacts. Although too lengthy to go into detail here, there is some excellent evidence that many of these entities appear at a certain angle to the right eye that correlates to matter going through an inter-dimensional process.

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            twosheds1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            To expand on the last sentence of what I wrote above: you see something odd, but what makes it supernatural? Is it more likely that your eyes or mind are playing tricks on you or that some extra-dimensional being exists in shadows? I'd like to see the evidence you mention. Of course we're not aware of everything that exists in the universe, but thus far there has been nothing to suggest that the supernatural is at work anywhere. To claim something has a supernatural cause is to admit defeat, to be satisfied with ignorance.

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               Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               When you say we're not aware of everything in the universe that really says it all twosheds. What is the definition of supernatural in your dictionary? And respectfully disagree with you on any one claiming a preternatural experience as being in defeat or being satisfied with any kind of ignorance; and remember twosheds, as far as the general public goes up until a few days ago their science books told them the new tinsey- tiny particle didn't exist.

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                  twosheds1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks for proving my point. Although CERN has yet to say whether the newly-discovered particle is indeed the Higgs, their evidence, collected over decades of scientific study, points them in that direction. Indeed, their press release said "The next step will be to determine the precise nature of the particle and its significance for our understanding of the universe."
                  
                  Note that at no time did they say that a god or gods created the universe, or that anything that does not conform to the laws of nature was involved. Something that does not conform to the laws of nature is by definition supernatural.
                  
                  Regarding preternatural (how does that differ from supernatural?) experiences, I have another personal example: Late one night about 1995, my wife, son and I were driving home from my in-laws. At a corner near my home, I thought I saw a woman in a white dress run out in front of my car. I hit the brakes so hard I woke my wife (my son can sleep through a plane crash). Now, to "admit defeat" or "be satisfied with ignorance," as I said, I would have said that I saw a ghost and left it with that. It certainly looked ghostly, and my memory has filled in a lot of details I didn't remember at the time. (A psychologist I spoke to said that we often fill in details that conform to our expectations, regardless of whether those details were in the original or not.)
                  
                  But the fact remains, it was very late and I was fighting off sleep. I could actually have dozed off, in fact. I also have a thing for ladies in long, white dresses. I find it more likely that I hallucinated than saw the disembodied spirit of a long-dead woman. I can't categorically explain what I saw, so until some evidence comes along that was indeed a ghost, I'm going to have to go with the hallucination.

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                     Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Proves my point too. It was in the physics books that the particle didn't exist. Do you want to deny that? Look, you and I really aren't that far apart on this. I believe that ultimately paranormal, supernatural, and preternatural phenom can be explained scientifically- or at least most of it. The source of some of the explanations is were we might differ a bit. It will be most intriguing if the particle turns out to be something other than the Higgs theorem- a whole new physics can of the unknown in a way. Poor metaphor but you get the idea.

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                  twosheds1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  BTW, CERN's press release can be found here:
                  http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressRel … 7.12E.html

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                     Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     

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   cryptidposted 12 years ago

   Most people seem to think they are something aside from normal human spirits.  It is certainly possible that shadow people may be inhuman entities, dark spirits or demons.  I do think settling on that conclusion may be taking the easy road.  Should we name everything we don't fully understand a "demon"?  Maybe shadow people are simply another kind of spirit. Perhaps they are ancient spiritual energies, or elemental spirits.  Who knows?
   
   I don't know that I have a definitive answer here, and I guess my opinion is to keep an open mind to anything you don't fully understand.
   
   Or, you know, maybe they're demons. 

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Shadow people are followers, as far as I can guess.

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         pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         You made me laugh even though it could be very valid.

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   recommend1posted 12 years ago

   The human mind is an amazing machine - and when it goes wrong the results are weird.

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   creepyheadposted 12 years ago

   Shadows could be dark entities waiting for your body to be empty and replace you on your given vessel

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So best not be emptying our body, if emptying our body is possible.

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         creepyheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         it can be done with astral projection

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            pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Best not astral project then.

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   jponiatoposted 12 years ago

   Sparring partners.

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      creepyheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      i like your answer

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   An artifact of our mind's constant attempt to see patterns and signs of life.

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      pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Why would the mind do that when there are already many signs of life that exist?

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         psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Because in the evolutionary past it was extremely important to know if your were in the vicinity of friend, enemy, prey or predatory.  So the system tolerates a lot of false positives.

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            pennyofheavenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            How very interesting. Makes sense.

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      Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It is my opinion "shadow people" aren't pareidolia. This emoticon is an example of a pareidolia. Featureless "shadows" are not.

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   needmoretimeposted 12 years ago

   An over active imagination.

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That is a good problem, unless it's too focus in one area

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   crazyhorsesghostposted 12 years ago

   Shadow people are most definitely some form of spirits. I do not think they are demons or figments of imagination. I have saw many in the last fifty years or so and I know they are real. What they are exactly is what I don't know.

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      Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Agree with you 100% 'ghost- had an encounter as a child which is not something you ever forget or take lightly. The inter dimensional angle is an interesting one to research.

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         CMHypnoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Slipping in and out of parallel universes, so that is why there are fleeting glimpses, short encounters?  So are we all really where we think we are all the time, or do we slip into other dimensions too?  Are we a shadow person on another world?

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      kathyinmnposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I wrote a hub on my theory on shadow people. I am as I study them more the theory will be updated, but for now this is my idea of what they are

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   Alastar Packerposted 12 years ago

   Could very well be CM. Starting to lean towards that hypothesis. Steiger puts it this way: "we are dealing with a multidimensional para-physical phenomena that is largely indigenous to planet Earth."

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      Terri Meredithposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I tend to lean toward the slipping and sliding in and out of other dimensions, too.  Since we keep proving to ourselves we don't know everything about science, I have to maintain that anything is possible.  The dimensions explanation makes the most sense to me at this time.

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         Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Terri, I do believe your on to something there.

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    markbennisposted 12 years ago

    In my book of understanding, nothing is impossible and everything is probable. Probable futures, time lines, alternate realities, string theory, dark matter, well it would appear that we are heading in the right direction, I think we may get our answers sooner than we think?

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       Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Are shadow people ghost?

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    sparksterposted 12 years ago

    I heard about the shadow people phenomena recently.  Apparently nearly 5,000 people all living in the same area phoned into the Art Bell radio show to report seeing them within the space of a week or two!

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       Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Sure would like to know the specific area on those Art Bell calls. If true it may help support the inter-dimensional hypothesis-  that large a number in a certain area and in so short a time is extremely intriguing.

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          sparksterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Check it out here:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWOiSflrAv4

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             Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             If someone has sex with a shadow person,? owpps I almost wrote shallow people.
             
             Is that two sin committed or one, one with self and one with a demon?

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             Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Great, thanks for the link sparkster.

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    jennzieposted 12 years ago

    I wrote a hub about shadow people. If you are interested you can check it out here: <link snipped - no promotional links>

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    Druid Dudeposted 12 years ago

    Shadow people? What shadow people?

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       markbennisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       The fallen ones

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          Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Vague. What exactly is the phenomenon. Describe what people are seeing. Any hard evidence?

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             Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             I have seen 2 ghost at two different times in my life, that was evidence enough for me. The living will not know if they were fallen ones, untill we enter the spirit world ourselves. My one ghost was not shadow like, the 10 year old boy was bright and transparent. He was my great great uncle in which we lived in the same house, built in 1847

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                Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Ghosts? I thought they were talking about a new phenom.

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                   Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   Shadow people are shadowy, silhouettes of human forms seen mostly at night, and are the most common form of ghost apparition people see.

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                      Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                      Oh... I thought those were the 'Village People'.

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                         Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                         In your book, I don't know if gay people can be promoted to shadow people. Maybe they just get cut loose into outer space, because the gene error. God make, since God made everything perfect, who kowns with Yahweh

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    Nouveau Skepticposted 12 years ago

    I don't think it is an accusation to say that you can see a person that is not there, without that requiring a supernatural explanation.  I once had a hypnogogic hallucination of a little girl in my room.  I saw the little girl, I did not interpret it as a ghost--but someone else would.  The experience itself does not prove or disprove anything as both explanations could account for it.

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       recommend1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Absolutely,  and the woman I see regularly arguing with nobody pushes and ignores her invisible companion, I believe lithium deficiency alone can do this.

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    thoughtholeposted 12 years ago

    Like most other paranormal phenomenon I think Shadow people are dimensional beings that blip in and out of our percieved "reality". Since dimensional possibilities are infinite the different types of shadow people may also be an endless array.
    Most reports of these shadow people seem human like, and have similar characteristics like top hats giving them the feel that they may be related to a particular time period.
    
    What have been the characteristics of those you have seen?

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       Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Solid, humanoid build; slender projecting protuberances on both sides of the head; black-shaded or darkened form with no discernible features; intelligent with the capability of subtle thought projection into consciousness.

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    kittythedreamerposted 12 years ago

    I agree with AP's description of shadow people's appearance; however, I tend to think some of them can be actual evil spirits in the form of shadows...simply trying to hide from our view. While others seem to simply be observing and potentially from another realm of existence...maybe the same realm of the faeries?

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       Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Some of them well could be negative or even hostile. For another possibility on their origins how about the powerful and mysterious interdimensional beings know as djinn. What exactly are they? Whats their hidden agenda against the human race-- are good questions. The case files are full of accounts from all over the world and a middle eastern leader even admitted that some of the worlds top military are or were most interested in the tech device that allows them to cross over, and even tried to capture one in his country. They often appear as shadow people types and have the ability to take on any form they wish. Some are neutral towards humanity but some are definitely not. And unsurprisingly, their young are curious about us and will take on animal shapes to get up close and observe without revealing their true appearance. Some may laugh at this but after researching and a possible encounter or two I most assuredly won't be one of them.

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          twosheds1posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          We won't laugh, we'll just face palm.

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             Alastar Packerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Face palm sounds like an interesting activity for children- in my opinion that is.

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