Bubblews Has Big Issues

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   earnerposted 9 years ago

   It's not loaded for me for the last 2 hours - and that was after waiting 2 hours to post earlier this morning.
   
   Facebook's an  update free zone.
   Twitter's an update free zone.
   
   What a shambles of an 'organisation'
   
   Anybody got the CEO's home address?  I think we need to arrange a little chat face to face........

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      agvulpesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      They are now back on air but appear as slow as... 
      

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   FatFreddysCatposted 9 years ago

   maybe they've finally collapsed under the weight of all those non payment complaints.

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      Thomas Swanposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Well someone's bound to take them to court eventually.

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      rohanfelixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      They owe me over 75 dollars and they haven't paid me a Cent. I spent ages on Bubblews, and now I know their true colours.

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   Stacie Lposted 9 years ago

   I just joined and wrote one post...i may wait and see..

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      epsonok0posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I dont want to discourage any one. But I wrote on Bubblws weeks ago. And was not surprised to find that not one view and not one comment. My worst Hubs have done 50 times better than that here.

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         WryLiltposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         It's a lot easier to make money there with less content, but it's a bubble that will pop soon!

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         Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         There's a knack to making money there. If you're after some short term income and enjoy writing "fluff", you can do quite well and have fun.   
         
         The secret is to build a lot of connections, because you get paid for internal traffic.   
         
         The way I did it was:  Write four or five good posts, then spend a few solid hours browsing the site and liking/commenting on other posts.   Find writers you like and connect with them - and always leave a comment on their profile when you do.  You'll find you'll gather a lot of views very quickly from those connections.
         
         Some people say you should write the maximum ten posts a day, but I can't see any point in that - because only your five most recent posts show on your profile.  Once a post drops off your profile, it will get far fewer views.  So I think drip-feeding your posts is more effective, and continuing to build your connections.
         
         It is a lot of work because of the need for all that commenting and liking - if that's your thing, you may find you're enjoying it for its own sake and the money will seem effortless.  However I found that when I monitored my activity, I was making about $1 an hour, which isn't really worthwhile for me.

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            Barbara Kayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Mine is around that amount too. I question whether it is worhwhile. I have a lot of other things I could be doing.

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               Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Me too. I kept going till I hit my first redemption, then I gave up.   It is far too easy to waste time there (even worse than HP!). 
               
               If posts continued to earn for weeks and months after posting, it would be worthwhile but I'm not convinced that will be the case.

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   Rochelle Frankposted 9 years ago

   Maybe all of their techs have gone over to fix the Obamacare issues.

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      epsonok0posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Funny enough Google and oracle techs are doing that and both sites are working fine. Just a funny musing nothing personal.

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   andyozposted 9 years ago

   I've been writing for them for months, had lots of successful redemptions and quite a few missing ones. A few weeks ago I wrote a Bubble that took off, it has now had 40,000+ plus views, all these are legit views. However, since then my payments have been stopped and they won't reply to my emails. They currently owe me around $600 for the past few weeks.
   
   I understand they would check my post with the massive views, but the fact they have not contacted my in over two weeks shows that I am unlikely to ever see a penny of that money. It is frustrating as it means it is now pointless writing any more posts over there. I will probably have to delete that post and loose out on all the revenue.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Wow that's amazing!   Unfortunately from what I can see, that's so rare on Bubblews that they're bound to be suspicious.   I wouldn't be too hasty about deleting the post, because it could take them weeks to look into it.

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         andyozposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I don't see why it would take weeks, they should have stats and it should only take a few minutes to analyse them. Plus they should have at least replied to my emails saying they were looking into it. At the moment I can't write for the site as they simply are not paying me.

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   paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

   Well, hopefully another $26+ is winging its way towards me as we speak.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 9 years ago

   The day after tomorrow will be 30 days since I hit the "redeem" button. Soon I will unleash Hell.

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      paradigmsearchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, good. Lively forums are fun. As is a really good rant.

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   earnerposted 9 years ago

   I joined after hearing about it here.  As I needed "instant money" I gave it a go.
   
   I've now 'redeemed' 27x. 
   
   My first big problem was when I wrote one that took off, with 14k views, 13k of those in 24 hours.  Not been paid for that.  Nor paid for the next redemption.
   
   By then you've got some going through, so you wait and see.
   
   Eventually I stopped as I had 5 unpaid.  Then the pipeline caught up and those paid out, and I still needed money, so started again (after a break of a week). 
   
   Been writing for the last 5 days again, redeemed 3x.  First one not paid out; 2nd one due tomorrow; 3rd due Friday.  I've stopped writing to see what happens.
   
   Chased all these unpaids - not heard a bean.
   
   It is "hard work" - but it is "instant money" (when it pays).
   
   If there weren't payment issues it'd be the best site since sliced bread... and I'd be there building hugely successful posts.
   
   Non payments make your mood, and posts, change - your plans for drip feeding a series. or following a theme over time, are abandoned.  You don't want to put what could be "potentially a winner" on there.  So I stopped trying and just went all blah with it.
   
   I'd love to be able to confidently write there, but I can't.
   
   Rough stats to date:
   • Redeemed $860
   • Paid/Cleared $500
   • Unpaid $300
   • Awaiting $60 (tomorrow/Friday)
   
   So I've actually received $500 I'd have not got anywhere else in that timespan, but I have put in WAY too many hours, working and thinking of the long-term ....
   
   You do have to try some of these things; some ideas/sites aren't duds.
   
   It's not been a complete failure;  the hourly rate of pay's been poor, but there was no other easy/instant way to potentially pick up some fast cash.  I knew when I started there were payment issues, but I was between a rock and a hard place.
   
   If they start paying out I'll gladly shuffle back.

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      andyozposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I am glad I am not the only one who is having problems with posts with lots of views! My story matches yours exactly, lots of lovely payments until I post one Bubble that manages 40,000+ views. Then the payments stop and no answer to all my emails to support.
      
      Do I cut my losses, delete the post in question and try again, or do I pester them with emails hoping they will pay me the $600 they owe me? It's a tough call but it is frustrating knowing that the money that was coming in on a regular basis has now stopped, all because I brought 40,000 to their site!

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         paradigmsearchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Paradigmsearch writes note to self, "Be careful to not make any posts that may have viral potential."
         
         With the usual drivel I write, shouldn't be a problem. In fact, getting ready to post another one as we speak.
         
         Interestingly, I've found that Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday mid-to-late mornings (HP time) seems to give me the most bang for the post.
         
         Even though I've done zero interaction with the site since clicking the redemption button yesterday, another 26 cents drifted in. I'm going to have to start paying attention and see if that is my daily zero-work income average.
         
         As for my impending post, it's a semi-depressing one that I would normally have posted on the forums. HP really should send bubblews a thank-you note.

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            paradigmsearchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Update. Went to notifications and discovered that most of the other posts are also semi-depressing. Must be the weather...

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         Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         The question is, why would you delete the post?   "Earner" posted that he'd had a similar experience and had a backlog of 5 payouts before he finally got paid the first one.  So it sounds like they can take a long time to pay out large amounts of money - a cashflow issue maybe?   I know that shouldn't be the case, but if it is, why not have a little patience?   Don't write any more, certainly - but don't delete what you already have  you might be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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            andyozposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            True, but last month on the site I made around $300, this month if I don't get paid I am going to earn $0! That is a big difference and not really money I want to be losing.

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   paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

   So far, no problems.
   
   I never post pics, so they never have to mess around with checking attributions.
   
   I never post links, so they never have to mess around with checking for affiliations and/or referral codes.
   
   Is that why I've always gotten quick turnarounds on all my redemptions? Who knows, but might be a factor.
   
   My guess is they run the posts through an automated checker. What with no links or pics, it never needs to be set aside for a human to look at it. Just a speculation.

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      earnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I think it's a red herring.  While I'll agree that not doing that stuff reduces their work - I doubt that they really do check every post for these things.
      
      Often if you say there "I've not been paid" people will say "you must have broken a rule" - and the mob mentality follows this line.  But I don't believe I've broken any rules (open/obvious, or the sneaky/hidden rules).
      
      IMHO my stuff is squeaky clean.
      
      But - the biggest issue is the complete blanket of silence.  If you've broken a rule, why don't they just say so, so you can clean up your act.
      
      It would be in their favour to do this for good writers who break one tiny, hidden rule, on one insignificant post.
      
      It's not right, say, to simply not pay $200 of legitimate income based on one (unpopular) post maybe breaking one tiny rule (e.g. perhaps using their own photo of their own dog and not crediting it to themselves).
      
      They present as a scam company because of the silence - and the strange disappearing posts/accounts/users.  Some people have entire accounts just wiped out, without a word to them.
      
      I put pics on where I can - properly attributed and licensed.
      I rarely use links (haven't done for weeks)
      No referral links in my posts.
      
      But, they should be able to see the "idiot spammers" from the "people that've slipped up" and it'd be in their best interests long-term to get them to clean up their act.
      
      And - their emails.  How come none of their email addresses are at their domain?  They recently set up3 new support emails, all on gmail.  Most odd.
      
      Mathematically, the business model stacks up. 
      
      And - let's not forget - even if somebody did break a small rule - they are getting the income and keeping 100% for themselves.  Those posts aren't deleted or unpublished..... so that's double robbery.

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      earnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I just checked, I'm one of your connections over there.

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         Jason Marovichposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Interesting read here:
         
         http://cendrinemedia.tumblr.com/post/54 … case-study

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    Will Apseposted 9 years ago

    I am guessing this dreary little thread has been kept in the wrong forum because a mod thought it was doomy enough to discourage people from heading over to bubblers.
    
    But of course anyone who has ever trained a rat to press a lever when a light comes on knows that the kinds of behavior that most resist going to extinction are those where there is a very erratic reinforcement regime. And where the rat is very hungry.
    
    In other words, the occasional meager, reward is ideal for keeping a hungry rat's attention.
    
    Below we have a simple bubble box.
    

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       EmpressFelicityposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Breaking my self-imposed forum silence to say that I don't often agree with you Will, but you're spot on here. The site owner of Bubblews must have read all the behaviourist manuals he/she could lay their hands on. I'm amazed that there are so many otherwise intelligent people who have fallen for it.

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       paradigmsearchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Actually, I consider this pic an accurate description of all life experiences in general. And I do get tired of that electric grid. Reality is a tough town. 

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          Will Apseposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I am afraid that you have me there, lol.
          
          Also, the imploring glances I can't help but make at the pellet dispenser are a source of shame.

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    Mark Ewbieposted 9 years ago

    I'll bite.
    
    This dreary little thread is of slightly more interest than the usual garbage - inane babble - pointless up themself look at me crap - that usually litters this forum.
    
    And I mean that with no humor at all.  The same old posters with the same old pointless crap.
    
    I make roughly 200 dollars a month on Bubblews with less and less effort.  That's good money to me Will - I never mastered the sales thing.
    
    It is one area, a small string, a hope of something better.  Making some money on the internet.
    
    Meanwhile - these forums are full of endless crap from people who don't even read the OP, don't know what the thread is about, post endless drivel as though it is some chummy Facebook Group. 
    
    At least this thread has something to do with money or the lack of it.  Everything else is a waste of time.

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       Will Apseposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       You live in the UK. How can two hundred dollars a month be good money?
       
       It would pay the rent on a one bed flat in Tulse Hill for a few days.
       
       You are helping to make a very small number of people of rich. You are getting paid less than a rice farmer in Cambodia.
       
       You are, in fact, saying yes, I'm not worth much, I will help make you a billionaire and ask for almost nothing in return.
       
       It is a scam run off the backs of masochists.

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          Mark Ewbieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          That's nonsense.  No more responding to trolls on here from me.

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             Will Apseposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             It's one of problems we all encounter in this kind of forum. Where people are not being paid for falsehoods they frequently blurt out the truth. Which can upset the deluded.

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             Writer Foxposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             Will, of course, has never signed up for Bubblews but considers himself an authority on that subject.  Typical.

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                Will Apseposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Nah, its you that is the expert on everything. Including running around the forum like a cat with its tail on fire.

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                   Writer Foxposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                   That makes your 41st post on the Forum in the past seven weeks about Bubblews.  If you had posted all of those thoughts on the Bubblews site, at least you would have made some money from them.

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                      Will Apseposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                      Do you write there? Is it the kind of place that you would recommend for an aspiring internet writer?

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    pinappuposted 9 years ago

    They have not paid me a cent till date. It is a big scam.

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    paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

    Site crashed shortly after I made my second, more cheerful, post. I hate it when that happens...

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