Are Republicans dumb??

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habeeposted 12 years ago
I've always said that I didn't think Mitt would win in SC, and now Newt is ahead in the state in several polls. The GOP has gone so far to the right that they don't want a moderate. It just boggles my mind that any reasonable person could back Newt. If you think we have gridlock in Washington now, it will be 200% worse if Newt gets to be POTUS. It will be "my way or the highway" even more than it is now. At least Mitt has proven that he can compromise and work with Dems. Of course, the ABC interview with Newt's ex-wife will air before the SC primary, so perhaps voters will see more of the "real" Newt.

I don't like everything about Mitt, but compared to Newt, he's a saint! If the GOP nominates Newt, I think they'll be shooting themselves in the foot. They HAVE to have some indies in order to win, and I can't see many indies jumping on the Newt train.

I'd choose Paul over Newt any day.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The Neo Cons have hi-jacked the Republican party AND the Democratic party.
  
  They think that the US must preserve it's purpose and instill it's values in others.
  
  In so doing, they've lost track of what US values are.
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  habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Evan, what are your thoughts on Newt?
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It's impossible to have an opinion on Newt because he doesn't stand for anything.
  
  Give him $50 and he'll tell you that the Earth is flat.
  
  Give him $100 and he'll dance like a monkey.
  
  Give him $1.6 million and he'll help out Fannie and Freddie.
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  steveamyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  at least we agree on Newt
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  He was also banging his High School geometry teacher.
  
  Today, he would tell us that this is uncalled for and that the teacher should be thrown in jail.
  
  I can't express how much this man should be tarred and feathered.
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  Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  +1 on that, Evan.
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  habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  +1 on your +1, MM! How can the people of SC be so blind??
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  Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  "Gingrich was also banging his High School geometry teacher."
  
  First time I heard that. Thanks, Evan. Maybe they can dig her up for Nightline also.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It's actually common knowledge:
  
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ele … _blog.html
  
  Lol, they have dug her up - she was his first wife. Then, while she was dying of cancer, he was out banging other girls.
  
  The guy's an absolute $#!7 bag.
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  Lady In NCposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You are wrong ,no wonder why however , washington post is liberal leaning news source rag .. Read facts before believing lies ,,, Newts daughter get stories straight ......www.creators.com › Opinion › Jackie Gingrich Cushman
  
  Sad to see so many judge a person before judging themselves ..
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  what did you try to say?
  
  Because I have NO idea what that hodgepodge of commas and periods was trying to say.
  
  And judging myself? OK... the topic is marriage: "I've been together with the same girl for 10 years... and... um... ... well, that's it. Nothing more to say".
  
  Now, judging Gingrich: "He's on his third marriage, he's cheated on his first two wives, he married his geometry teacher - they WERE banging - and while he was cheating, his wife had cancer".
  
  ... that's not really a judgement, that's just stating facts.
  
  You want my judgement? Here ya go: "Newt Gingrich, on marriage, is a complete and utter sack of @^%@ and he should be repeatedly kicked in the balls until HE STOPS JUDGING OTHERS for THEIR marriages when their attempts to marry are so much more wholesome than his ever were."
  
  That would be my judgement.
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  marriedwithdebtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  +1
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  Lady In NCposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Jackie Gingrich Cushman states that the divorce was requested by her mom ,Newts first wife ,Also the tumor that was removed was benign. AND the surgery took place a day AFTER the Gingriches personal decision .
  So , do you think ALL men and women that get a divorce are sacks of @^%@ ?! Or just Newt ?? Get a Clue ! By the Way , If you are talking about him judging Clinton's intern ordeal ..Not one time did he bash Clinton on his affair , however he bashed for lying under oath ... Let me tell you too , Newt has always been honest about his affrairs and even said he had to ask forgiveness because he knew he was in the wrong . Newt has backbone and the knowledge to run our Country right .That upsets liberals
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No. I don't think that all people who get divorces are sacks of ***.
  
  Did you read my post?
  
  I said that he's been judging others' marriages and preventing people who take their love seriously from getting married.
  
  That's called hypocrisy.
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  marriedwithdebtposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Newt never published a racist and homophobic newsletter, though. What kind of a $#@% bag would do something like that?
  
  (*cough...Ron Paul)
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, I couldn't hear you over how awesome Ron Paul is
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBs1XpQanUI
  
  You're right, Ron Paul was too busy delivering the 4,000 babies that helped vote him in to office.
  
  He was also busy making sure that the poor families weren't being charged for his work.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4
  
  He was also trying to start a political career to help save America from Nixon's abandonment of the Gold standard.
  
  Oh, and since, he's been too busy pointing out the real systemic racism that exists in our law system.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2z2LQMx9KY
  
  ... that is, speaking out against it FOR YEARS
  
  http://www.buzzfeed.com/ccbaxter/22-fac … a-rac-41xp
  
  And then, even though he's been busy protecting freedom, he has even claimed responsibility for not taking more time to supervise the 400 or so newsletters that came out under his name.
  
  Oh, and in the middle of that, he's been launching presidential campaigns where HE'S TAKING ON THE ENTIRE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
  
  (This video contains graphic images. Only watch it if you want to feel passionately about bringing our troops home)
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc5E-MnD … r_embedded
  
  Got anything else?
  
  LIKE A BOSS.
  
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  Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I agree, Newt would be my last choice. I'd even take Santorum over Newt, and that's going pretty far, for me. I don't think any of them can beat Obama unless unemployment starts back up again.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Employment's going to go up this year because it's an election year.
  
  All of that 0% interest rate is going to start to have it's POSITIVE effect this year.
  
  Then it will come crashing down about 5 from now.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Edit: LOL!! Did I say 0%? I meant to say "Negative".
  
  I forgot that IRs are at 0% officially, but that the Fed is printing money on the order of trillions and secretly bailing people out.
  
  You're officially losing money if you have cash.
  
  Oh, and I suppose I shouldn't say that it HAS to go up. Stagflation (you know, the one phenomenon that your school of economics was disproven because of?) has been going on for the past 3-4 years.
  
  I'm just saying that it is likely to end this year.
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  Lady In NCposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Wake up liberal ,,Learn Facts
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  ... i'm...not... a liberal...
  
  Can ANYONE come to my defense on this one?
  
  Deeds? Berndt? Pcunix? Can someone correct this lady?
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  kerrygposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  LOL, you must be new.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  finally, someone came to my defense!
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  kerrygposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Santorum, seriously? The man is as much a lying, hypocritical sack of, well, santorum as Newt is, and he doesn't have Newt's brains.
  
  Truthfully, I haven't decided whether someone with brains but no integrity would be better or worse for the country than someone with no brains AND no integrity, but the choice is awful enough it's almost making me nostalgic for Shrub. Almost.
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  MyFavoriteBeddingposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  SOMEBODY better get Obama out of the White House. ANYBODY is better than Obama!!!!!!
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  IntimatEvolutionposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah habee, I am with you. Newt has lost his mind. Giving him the bid is crazy. But I think the R's have lost their way anyway. As a former Newt fan from his days
  back in the '90's- I
  am embarrassed
  that I ever use to
  like him. His
  ideology these days
  is temperanced in
  racism and hate.
  Sad really, to see
  someone who was
  great once, fall so
  far in my opinion...
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  secularist10posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Romney will be the nominee, and Obama will win the general election. So no worries about Newt.
  
  However, I do think a Gingrich presidency would be HIGHLY entertaining. Every other day there would be an allegation of adultery. Every State of the Union would feature at least one errant egg flying toward the President's gigantic head.
  
  *A politically incorrect remark every morning before breakfast (directed toward the group du jour--blacks, Native Americans, women, gays, women, atheists, women, bald men, Vietnam veterans... women, etc)
  
  *A threat of war against France by lunch,
  
  *And a "serious" proposal to abolish the judicial branch by dinner (or at least merge it into the Oval Office).
  
  And through it all we would smile, shake our heads, and say "that's our Newt!" and go on with our day.
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  Daniella Lopezposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Newt's surge just proves that people don't really pay attention to much of anything but a smooth talker. If Paul or Romney had the oratory skills of Newt, they'd have the nomination in the bag. Thankfully, that's all Newt really has going for him, so hopefully he wont surge much further.
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Greek Oneposted 12 years ago
Obama is going to win the next election.. the GOP knows it...

best that any serious candidates prepare for 2016
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  habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Greek, if the economy continues to improve, I agree - I think Obama will win.
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  Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  it is bound to get better.. and when it does.. the election is over
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Employment probably will go up this year.
  
  But so will inflation.
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  livelongerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You're talking about Chris Christie, right? I don't support him but he's the only one in the field who's not a complete joke.
  
  Romney's going to get the nomination, now that the majority of GOP voters have exhausted all the anybody-but-Romney choices. Most will grudgingly vote for Romney (except the Paulites). It won't be close to enough to win.
  
  The sad thing is that Romney's spectacular loss will be seized on by the nuts in the Republican party, who will say they really should have nominated some freak like Santorum or Gingrich, and we'll have another 4 years of an opposition party that lives in an alternate universe.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Romney could make Ron Paul his Vice President and even I wouldn't vote for him.
  
  He ACTUALLY supports the recent NDAA.
  
  He's trash to me. Utter trash.
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  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, my. Now I actually wish for that ticket !
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You're more interested in seeing my misery than seeing a good candidate come into office?
  
  I think this post of yours speaks volumes.
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  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, sheesh - you ought to realize by now that Paul is a dead issue - he always was. Put a dead chicken on the ticket - it doesn't matter anyway.
  
  Vegas has him at 25/1 to win the nomination and 35/1 to win the Presidency.
  
  No Republican has a chance as of right now: http://www.politicalbettingodds.com/201 … -odds.html
  
  Put a dead chicken on the ticket - it doesn't matter anyway.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The polls have them tied.
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  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Polls aren't votes and I'll trust the Vegas oddsmakers over any pollster.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  True. The only issue as of now is which party will have a majority in the House and Senate.
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Mighty Momposted 12 years ago
I was dismayed that Huntsman bowed out before SC.
Didn't he get the endorsement of the major newspaper there?
I was honestly waiting for him to get his turn in the spotlight.

IDK, it's all good theater so far and more fun to keep the mud slinging intra-party for the time being.
It would be really anticlimactic to hand it to Romney now.

Either way, tho, the GOP is screwed.
If they run a neocon and he loses, they will wish they'd run moderate Romney.
If they run Romney and he loses, they will say they would have won if only they'd run a neocon.

The problem is the deep divide inside.
And yeah, unless the economy takes another nosedive, it's no contest.
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ytsenohposted 12 years ago
Interesting forum of dialogue. I think Obama is going to be reelected. I've watched the Republican debates and there have been a couple of times where my jaw dropped. I'm not a Republican (but I come in peace!!), and I respect the views and beliefs of others. I will say that there have been moments where I thought to myself if I were a registered Republican, I would be so embarrassed at some of the comments and monologues that have been presented. And I'm sorry, Newt is sometimes just out of control. He's a distraction. I think Huntsman was so in the middle of the road that Republican voters may not have loved him. Ron Paul has such passion in what he believes although he's kind of out there. Romney seems to have the most business sense. I don't see there is a "wow" candidate for the GOP.
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  MyFavoriteBeddingposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Anyone of them is better than Obama. I hope you are wrong, because if Obama is re-elected we are all in trouble!!!!
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Pcunixposted 12 years ago
No, not dumb, but you've let a crazy fringe hijack your party. If the Dems were like this, we'd be putting up socialists as candidates.

Y'all need to get them out and the best way to do that is to hold your nose and vote Democratic en masse to wake them up.

That fringe certainly makes the rest of us shake our heads.
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ArtzGirlposted 12 years ago
Ron Paul and his son Rand Paul come across as very smart. However, George W. Bush really did NOTHING for the intelligence perception of the Republican party.

I haven't been following the Republican debates all that much... but I would imagine that Obama would be a much better speaker than the majority of other candidates. Obama really shines in debates. He normally keeps his cool and comes across very intelligent.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  If Ron Paul and Obama ever debated, it would be over.
  
  Ron Paul would win in a landslide. Democrats would wake up and start seeing their party for what it is.
  
  There would be a second revival of the Austrian School of Economics. (The first one was when Ron Paul debated the Republicans in 2008. Most Democrats didn't bother paying attention).
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  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No. People aren't as clueless as you think, Evan.
  
  Intelligent people spot the flaws of Libertarian philosophy no matter how artfully it is presented.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yet... you have yet to give me a single good argument that can't be easily destroyed...
  
  ...
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  Pcunixposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  "Easily destroyed" in YOUR mind, Evan.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  well, you never bothered to respond. Which generally translates to "I got nothin"
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Angela Blairposted 12 years ago
Right on girlfriend -- just can't get my head together for Newt. BUT, not overly thrilled about Romney either. As to Republicans being stupid -- that looks like a crap shoot to me right now -- may be worse than stupid! Admittedly, I think they're LOOKING stupid whether they are or not. I also agree with you -- few Indies on the Newt train. The Republicans have had plenty of time to come forth with a viable candidate -- don't think either Newt or Mitt fit the description. I'm still thinking about the rest of the candidates -- slim pickins' all the way around seems to me.
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  Michele Travisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The real problem is not enough of us vote. Do you know the % of Amerians who vote? It has been going down. If fewer and fewer people vote, then we will all lose.
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  miss sheliaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  true, very true!!
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  "Going out to vote" isn't really the solution.
  
  If my choices are a bunch of douchebags, then the smartest thing I can do is NOT vote.
  
  Voting costs money: I have to wake up, take a half hour of my time, use gasoline, and sit out in the cold.
  
  And then, on top of that, there's NO reassurance that the button I pressed at the poll actually voted for the person I wanted.
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  Lady In NCposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Not voting only gives a vote to the other .......Voting may cost money , it may take alittle of your time ,ya may get cold ,,,hmm don't you think YOUR country is worth it ???
  America can't take 4 more years of O'Socialism / dictatorship
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Republicans, except Ron Paul, are just as socialist as the D's.
  
  Both groups steal money from people, but the D's give it to the poor (which ultimately backfires because they don't understand economics). The R's give it to war-mongering demons.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Smart, maybe. Wise, no. Moral, definitely not (Gingrich).
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Reality Bytesposted 12 years ago
There is still Herman Cain.

I think Huntsman and Perry dropped out rather than be embarrassed by getting less votes then Stephen Colbert/Herman Cain...
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I have to boycott Colbert and Stewart. They are going to steal votes from Ron Paul with their dumb joke.
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  Cody Hodgeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Some people call it democracy....
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  Cody Hodgeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Although I do agree if anyone should come from the GOP it should be Paul
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Lady In NCposted 12 years ago
Newt's surge just proves that people don't really pay attention to much of anything but a smooth talker....... Actually Daniella Obama has already proven that
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Lady In NCposted 12 years ago
Lies are paid for in full by other candidates or other parties ..Before bashing one , learn facts ,, look into voting records ...
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Alright. Here's a voting record for you.
  
  Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:
  
  He has never voted to raise taxes.
  He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
  He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
  He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
  He has never taken a government-paid junket.
  He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
  
  He voted against the Patriot Act.
  He voted against regulating the Internet.
  He voted against the Iraq war.
  
  He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
  He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
  
  Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Also: he predicted the 2008 crash IN THE YEAR 2002.
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, and Ron Paul is a mutherf**king Veteran.
  
  Not a chicken hawk like Newt, Santorum AND Romney.
  
  Paul isn't a chicken, nor is he a hawk.
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  Lady In NCposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Paul is a whacko .. His foreign policies sucks .
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  "Hey, let's NOT kill people!"
  
  ... WHACKO!!
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Lady In NCposted 12 years ago
Newt / Santorum 2012 !!!!!!
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I just threw up.
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  Cody Hodgeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Makes McCain/Palin seem almost reasonable...
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  Lady In NCposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Would have been a hell of alot better than Obama/ Biden !!! Communist
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  Lady In NCposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  That weak ?!? Wow
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  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No, not "that weak". "That smart"... you know, smart enough to "use google".
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JeniferDposted 12 years ago
Dumb does not even BEGIN to describe the gaggle of millionaires we have in office that were too dumb to get a real job flipping burgers, but, dogmatic enough to think they can make decisions for the working class voters.
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Mark Pittsposted 12 years ago
I agree there have been opportunities for embarrassment from the candidates, but that is the norm. I have been watching elections and debates since Nixon. The issue I do have is that there was never any comment or notice of why a candidate, or the candidates wife, would seal their writings (ie: Ms. Obama's papers) or any mention of the associations and friendships (ie: Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, etc.) that are actually anti-American. I think all politicians are suspect by their nature, but the lack of a hard look at the Obama's history and actions while picking at anything/everything no matter how dated or "common knowledge" of any opposition, reflects poorly on the news media. They are the ones who let us down and keep us all from being able to make an informed choice. So I will hold my nose and vote for the conservative that is running against Obama, whoever it is, because they may at least care about the same country I do.
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