Big drop in page views.

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  1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
    TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years ago

    Am wondering if anybody else has gotten reduced page views in the past two weeks.  I'm losing about 1000 views plus per day and am wondering if some of this is due to the hurricanes.  I always expect a drop in the fall, but this is pretty significant.  Anybody?

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    1. NateB11 profile image87
      NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I've lost some traffic and there's been a lot of talk about the loss from others over here https://hubpages.com/community/forum/14 … s-dropping mostly from HealDove.

      Fortunately that site is not the only one where I get significant traffic.

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      1. NateB11 profile image87
        NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Of course, that probably wouldn't apply to you because that's not your niche.

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        1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
          TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Actually, I have a second site that includes some Healdove articles, but they have not lost views.

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    2. kenneth avery profile image76
      kenneth averyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      A few, but nothing earth shaking.

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    3. cam8510 profile image95
      cam8510posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I'm down about ten percent in the time period you mentioned.

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    4. weezyschannel profile image94
      weezyschannelposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Oh good lord I'm lost about 80% of my highest hub traffic! I'm totally devastated

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      lori811posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi TIMETRAVELER2 - It might attributed to the Hurricanes. Lots of outages, resulting in no internet connection. Just hang in there and wait. Continued $ucce$$ and God bless!smile

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      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Hope you're right. Thanks.

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        1. Glenn Stok profile image67
          Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          TT2: Did you see my reply to your same post? I gave you the same answer, but with more info—on how you can find out.

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          1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
            TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Just saw it and did check.  My three biggest states are CA, TX and FL.  The first two dropped slightly but the FL views were cut by more than half!  So apparently the hurricane is the problem.  I never knew about this feature in GA and am glad to have learned about it. Thanks, Glenn.

            Interestingly, yesterdays views jumped almost back to normal, but then people are now returning home and for many life is getting back to normal.

            We are still in evacuation mode and plan to stay until we see what Maria might do. She may follow the same track as Irma, and if so, we could taken a second hit!  That would be horrible for FL!

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            1. Glenn Stok profile image67
              Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              You've confirmed my prediction that the cause of traffic lose with AxleAddict is from Florida.

              I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and for my sister (who also lives in Florida), hoping Maria doesn't follow the same track. You have Maria to worry about and I have Jose developing—that may head to New York.

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              1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
                TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I don't think Jose will hit NY..at least not directly.  Maybe just some heavy rain and coastal flooding.  Maria, however, could turn into another Irma monster.  As I said before,glad I own an RV!  Going to sit it out, wait and see.

                Good luck with Jose!

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                1. Glenn Stok profile image67
                  Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, Jose looks like it will just turn out into the Atlantic. My sister is gassing up her car today in case they need to evacuate. They're in the Villages. Good luck with Maria. I see there is even another one behind Maria.

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    6. Sherry Hewins profile image69
      Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Mine's going down now too, and not just HealDove. This too shall pass.

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    7. RGraf profile image94
      RGrafposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      A little bit. I'm sure the strange nature moves this year is contributing.

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  2. CYong74 profile image62
    CYong74posted 7 years ago

    Not at all for me. It's been on a high, on the contrary.

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    1. Kyriaki Chatzi profile image95
      Kyriaki Chatziposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Same here!

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        Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Which site are we talking about? I am guessing caloriebee.

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    Will Apseposted 7 years ago

    If it is axleaddict losing traffic this might come into the YMYL category. Google mentions car safety in the search evaluator guidelines:

    Quote:

    "other topics that you may consider YMYL, (are) child adoption, car safety information,
    etc."

    What expertise or qualifications someone is supposed to have in regard to motor vehicle articles is unknown (to me at least).

    I can vouch for Dengarden and Owlcation still doing very well. Getting a little nervous though.

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    1. lobobrandon profile image77
      lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      These are the only two I have aritcles on too, they are ranking pretty well, though I have 33% of the traffic I had 2 weeks ago. But this is because it's not tomato growing season anymore, in most parts of the globe.

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      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        All of my main hubs are on Axleaddict, but there is a great variety of topics there because RV living and travel is such a broad topic.  I don't think they qualify as YMYL topics and i have plenty of authority for writing them.

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    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      If owning, living in and traveling in RV's for more than 50 years doesn't qualify me, what does?  That cannot be what is happening here.  a 25% plus drop in readership is significant...although it is the end of the RVing main season now, which would account for some of the drop...but that is a significant number and it concerns me.

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      1. Glenn Stok profile image67
        Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Is it possible that a large portion of your traffic for RV hubs is coming from Florida and Texas? That might account for your 25% drop in AxleAddict.

        You can find out by checking your Google Analytics report under "Audience > Geo > Location"
        Then click in the United States and it will open a detailed report of traffic from each state.

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      2. Sherry Hewins profile image69
        Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        It is not just your authority the ranking would be based on. It is the authority of the site as a whole. Just like one article on Healdove written by a credentialed medical expert would be penalized the same as everyone else's article (if AxleAddict is being hit.)

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        1. Daughter Of Maat profile image81
          Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I can vouch for that. My articles are backed by certifications and 2 decades of experience in medicine, and they are getting hit hard on healdove.

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          1. Health Reports profile image89
            Health Reportsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            My articles on Healdove dealing more with self help and ayurvedic medicine have not been hit so hard, but a little.  Perhaps certain medical topics were selected in the algo.

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          2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
            TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for reminding me about this, but you are oh so correct!  Easy to forget all of the things that can impact views.

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        2. Marisa Wright profile image85
          Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          How does this compare with the big seasonal drops you experienced twice before?

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          1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
            TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            It doesn't.  Those drops were massive and almost ruined me.  I get so many views now that even with a 25% drop in the off season I'm able to sustain enough views to bring in decent income.

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            1. Marisa Wright profile image85
              Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Well, there you go.  The last twice were worse, this time isn't as bad - so it's a normal thing and hardly something to be concerned about.

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              1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
                TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I'm always concerned when I see views dropping, but the funny thing is that this time the money has not dropped along with the views!  In fact I made more last month than those previously this year.

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                1. Chriswillman90 profile image68
                  Chriswillman90posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  The ad revenue has made up for the drops for me too.

                  I have zero thoughts on the holiday season though, last year my views soared from late October through early January, I doubt I'll see the same this time.

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                2. Marisa Wright profile image85
                  Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, there you go.  It sounds like you haven't lost any worthwhlie traffic.  That's a good sign and suggests Google is showing your Hubs to the right people.

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              2. Sherry Hewins profile image69
                Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                It's kind of like my mutual funds. One thing you can count on, they will go up and they will go down.

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    3. Chriswillman90 profile image68
      Chriswillman90posted 7 years ago

      I did suffer a good drop but for me it was a combo of back to school and the hurricanes. I don't know if tech articles fall into the YMYL category.

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      Will Apseposted 7 years ago

      https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13703090_f1024.jpg

      This is my last 6 months (from Google analytics).

      You have me a little concerned, though.

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      1. Sherry Hewins profile image69
        Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Wow, my chart is way more volatile than yours! I am glad you posted this, because it got me looking back at my statistics. Even though my page views are way down compared to the last couple of months, they are doing well compared to my average views in the past. I am especially happy to see that my Spinditty, Owlcation and Dengarden views are up during this time. It's nice not to have such a large portion of traffic coming from one hub or niche site. I am diversified.

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          Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I'm surprised that other people are seeing so many ups and downs. Wilderness and Glenn reckon Axleaddict is fine so it does look like Timetraveler 2 is getting a hurricane effect. But what about the other people reporting huge drops?

          It might be that they have newer pages (mine are pretty old and well established). Or that they are talking about a fifty per cent drop as being down from 50 to 25 views a day, something that can happen if you just slip a place or two in the rankings (for any reason at all).

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          1. wilderness profile image79
            wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Long ago, in my first year at HP, I saw a months long drop in views and almost dropped the whole idea.  And when they came back I resolved to never make that mistake again; traffic is not static.  It rises, it falls.  Sometimes by the day, sometimes by the week and occasionally by the month.  While HP may be large enough to smooth out those bumps, the ones without real cause, no hubber is.  It doesn't take an algorithm change to affect traffic for long periods; it just takes an unusual, improbable chance that happens sometimes.

            Sometimes there's a reason for a drop - Google, hurricane, eclipse, school's out, holiday, etc.) and sometimes there isn't.

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          2. Glenn Stok profile image67
            Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            We'll see what TT2 says when she checks her GA to determine if her traffic loss on AxleAddict is from the hurricane-hit areas.

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    5. profile image0
      Will Apseposted 7 years ago

      It would help if a few more people from axleaddict chipped in. Is it the site being hit, is it a seasonal thing, is it just your pages? Anyway... hope you see a recovery.

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      1. Glenn Stok profile image67
        Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I have three hubs in AxleAddict and did not notice a drop there. Latest check shows a 2% drop, which is within normal fluctuation. I have hubs scattered in 13 vertical niche sites and my major drop is all due to HealDove. The others are holding out.

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      2. wilderness profile image79
        wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I have just a few in axleaddict and, like Glenn, have not noticed a drop.  I have seen a huge drop in HealDove, though - from several hundred per day to a few dozen.  Although only a small percentage of my hubs, the drop was still readily apparent in overall totals.

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      3. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        There aren't that many who write on this topic, so it's hard to tell.  May be the storms, the season or...who knows?

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        1. Glenn Stok profile image67
          Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          As I said in my answer to Will's question, I'm not seeing a drop in AxleAddict.

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    6. paradigmsearch profile image58
      paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

      As online writers, it is our lot in life to be messed with. And it is only going to get worse. Unless one enjoys writing, get out of town. Fortunately, I still enjoy it; especially the bit about contributing to society. The money? Desperately needed. But still consider it just a bonus.

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    7. Susan Hambidge profile image74
      Susan Hambidgeposted 7 years ago

      Mine are all down by about 25% but I did ride a nice high for a about 6 weeks! Disappointed but hey ho!

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    8. paradigmsearch profile image58
      paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

      Just wanted to mention, love the name "TIMETRAVELER2".

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      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image75
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks.  Time, because I'm old and have RVd for more than 50 years, Traveler because we have traveled all over the US for years and 2 because my husband is number 1!

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    9. Chriswillman90 profile image68
      Chriswillman90posted 7 years ago

      Overall views are really dropping now, lowest in over a year for me.

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      1. Jan Saints profile image67
        Jan Saintsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah, I'm also seeing this!

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    10. eugbug profile image64
      eugbugposted 7 years ago

      Seems to be a drop in the last day or so. There are rumours of a Google algorithm update.
      https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13709542.jpg

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        Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13709973.png

        Seems there was some kind of change. I am seeing newer pages hit and older pages doing fine (or better). Overall, a small decline.

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    11. Chriswillman90 profile image68
      Chriswillman90posted 7 years ago

      Well at least it's not just me. Hopefully things blow over soon though because traffic normally should be picking up as the holidays draw closer.

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    12. dougwest1 profile image81
      dougwest1posted 7 years ago

      I would be happy to have 1000 views per day to loose. I guess my needs are simple. Good luck.

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    13. Mark Ewbie profile image60
      Mark Ewbieposted 7 years ago

      I make it an absolute rule to avoid personal stuff and keep my ego out of it.

      Why only the other day I said to myself.  "Mark" I said because that is my name or nom de plom as they say, "Mark - you are brilliant.  But you need to avoid too much mention of yourself."

      I asked my wife if she agreed.  She has left me of course but I am arguably allowed one call a month.  She didn't answer the phone.  Probably still trying to cope without me and my ego.

      Anyway - back to me.  The best way to be a writer is to call upon your inner reserves of fortitude, courage and je ne de foie gras.  That way you can engage with the public - stinking fools though they may be - and educate them in whatever.

      It was at HubPages that I honed my skills.

      mod:  Rest of this garbage has been edited out to save server space.

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      1. theraggededge profile image73
        theraggededgeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        big_smile big_smile big_smile

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    14. NateB11 profile image87
      NateB11posted 7 years ago

      Seeing a drop in more than just HealDove articles now. I thought at first it was just the HealDove trouble, but I'm seeing a drop in traffic and SERP positions of some of my top earners. We'll see how this round goes this time around.

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    15. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
      Paul Edmondsonposted 7 years ago

      There has definitely been traffic volatility since HealDove.  It's a little odd since some sites are up.  My guess is there going to be some more near-term ups and downs.

      The good news is ad rates are really good, so earnings are about the same across the network even if traffic is a little off.

      We've been at this a long time and I always say, don't get too bummed when traffic goes down, or too happy when it goes up.  The nature of search engines is they are always changing.  We play the long game.  Make good long-term investments in content and things even out.

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      1. lobobrandon profile image77
        lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Are you seeing a reduction in traffic on Dengarden by any chance. I'd understand if you don't want to be specific with respect to the niche sites, but one of my articles on there that was ranking very high for some terms has now moved to the top of the second page (originally at number 3 in many cases), but page two is where it does deserve to be in these cases.

        What I'm trying to say is that the search quality has improved for the niche I'm looking at and I continue to rank well for terms my article answers perfectly.

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      2. NateB11 profile image87
        NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        +1

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    16. paradigmsearch profile image58
      paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

      Holy Hot Dog! Seeing a traffic crash & burn way beyond the usual Friday norm. And it's across the board, all sites. Switched back to HP Ad Program, since that does best when the traffic is low.

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      1. Sherry Hewins profile image69
        Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        It does look like the recent boom is over, but the bottom is not too low, so far...

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    17. Rochelle Frank profile image98
      Rochelle Frankposted 7 years ago

      It has been going up and down, but I've been lucky to have high Amazon earnings. Adsense also looks good. I am encouraaged, bt also hope to encourage others to recheck the "help" for a lot of good tips for improving your chances of growth. There have been a lot of good changes lately, but you have to pay attention.
      I'm glad I started many years ago when there were fewer "rules". I was able to post a lot of stuff--- then gradually bring them up to the more challenging standards.

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    18. profile image0
      Will Apseposted 7 years ago

      Having a good Monday, trafficwise. Owlcation has taken off. Dengarden flourishes. Healdove still languishes, sadly...

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      1. paradigmsearch profile image58
        paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Good. Hoping September finishes with a bang. Might perk things up around here. Apparently I'm still optimistic, cuz I still keep publishing stuff.

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          Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          There is a lot of flux at the moment and it is difficult to see a pattern, but my crab page is leading from the front with 600 views for the day. That is as close as I get to popular.

          Should write more stuff about fidget spinners, I suppose.

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          1. paradigmsearch profile image58
            paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            For hubs, does it still take up to two years before Google decides it likes it?

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              Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Not on niche sites. But then you need a good page that covers a subject that has not already been done to death. Not so easy to find.

              Also, my own definition of success is modest -- around 50 views a day.

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              1. paradigmsearch profile image58
                paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                .
                You sure got that right!

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    19. eugbug profile image64
      eugbugposted 7 years ago

      Traffic still down about 30% on last week, mostly from DenGarden. Not seeing much of a recovery yet. Unfortunate was traffic was actually climbing on some hubs, which exceeded any seasonal drop-off.
      Anyway fingers crossed
      https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13714817.jpg

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      1. Chriswillman90 profile image68
        Chriswillman90posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        On the plus side ad earnings are definitely sky high, just wish the views at least matched what I received last year at this time.

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        1. eugbug profile image64
          eugbugposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          CPM shot up on Sunday which somewhat compensated. Hopefully that stays high!

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          1. janshares profile image86
            jansharesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            +1

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    20. paradigmsearch profile image58
      paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

      Happy Hotdog! Earnings outstandingly back on track. Yet HP stats continues to say my traffic is total cr@p. I'm beginning to think HP stats has a glitch and is unintentionally underreporting. Wouldn't be the first time. If this keeps up, I might have to work up the energy to check Analytics.

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      1. paradigmsearch profile image58
        paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Update.

        I checked Analytics (whose new format I am not thrilled with).

        Kind of hard to tell in the middle of the day, what with Analytics daily versus HP rolling 24. However, as near as I can tell, there are no glaring discrepancies.

        Thrilled with the earnings, but working up to getting major depressed about the traffic. Of course, this is much better than if it were the other way around.

        I'm going to have to drop by Wonderland and ask Alice how she does it.

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        1. NateB11 profile image87
          NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah, I'm amazed at the CPMs right now, that's what's stabilized the earnings even while traffic is down.

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          1. lobobrandon profile image77
            lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I look forward to what happens to the CPM once traffic recovers.

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    21. harrynielsen profile image94
      harrynielsenposted 7 years ago

      Likewise.... my views got a big bounce on Sunday...Hope it stays

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    22. eugbug profile image64
      eugbugposted 7 years ago

      Anyone seeing a recovery in traffic?

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      1. NateB11 profile image87
        NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I've had a recovery, mainly on a different HP account from which most of my traffic doesn't come from HealDove. A bit of a recovery on this account, enough to make me feel better about it all.

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      2. paradigmsearch profile image58
        paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Alas, no.

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      3. Chriswillman90 profile image68
        Chriswillman90posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Not really, maybe a little but still down this month over last year.

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      4. weezyschannel profile image94
        weezyschannelposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        No. It's the worst it has ever been and I am so discouraged... Earnings are zilch

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        1. Chriswillman90 profile image68
          Chriswillman90posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Unfortunately you have what I assume is one article generating most of your views on the niche site that's been hit the hardest, so it's no wonder that earnings have plummeted.

          I don't know what the long term plan is for that site and other YMYL sites, but a lot of that is out of our hands. You can only trust that the Hubpages staff can work within the Google algorithm and finds ways to sort out these issues, but it's not going to be a quick fix.

          Many hubbers have suffered significant declines, I have as well, so it's going to be a tough haul for most of us.

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          1. weezyschannel profile image94
            weezyschannelposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I have one on Healdove. Was doing fantastic and my earnings just from the one article was going up every day. It was actually high ranked with Google and I was impressing myself,  if you will. Now,  nothing.  I have lost over 1,000 views a day..

            I hope HP can figure it out. Maybe move to another niche site?

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            1. eugbug profile image64
              eugbugposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              It's not just HealDove. I have about 20 hubs on DenGarden and traffic suddenly dropped 30% overnight on all of them. Legend has it that there was a Google Update on 16th September.

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                Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I just looked at this page: hxxps://dengarden.com/gardening/Electrical-Safety-in-the-Garden-Using-an-RCD-GFCI-Adapter-to-Prevent-Shock-or-Electrocution

                There is something close to duplicate content here:

                hxxp://www.garden.ie/post.aspx?id=12965&idpost=43179

                & here:

                hxxp://abcgardener.blogspot.com/2015/09/electrical-safety-in-garden-using-rcd.html

                There is also this:

                2 of your articles (linked) that come up with a single search.

                https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13726170.jpg

                Those kinds of thing can create issues, in my limited experience. I didn't look at any of your other pages.

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                1. eugbug profile image64
                  eugbugposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I deleted the article on garden.ie before publishing here but for some reason their 'delete' option mustn't have deleted it properly.
                  I wasn't aware the article was copied at the 2nd URL. I often check for copies, but it's impossible to check every hub for plagiarization regularly. The problem is the article was copied from Ezinearticles when I had it published there. I later unpublished it and republished it on HubPages and it was moved to Dengarden, but the published date is after that of the copied article.

                  The two articles that come up in a search have closely related content so I may have used the same search phrase.

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                    Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    I would change the phrases you use that are common between the pages and sites, just to be on the safe
                    side.

                    If search is seeing them as similar, the various spam filter algos could see them as duplicate. Google has a thing about not letting anyone 'own the SERP's'.

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                    1. eugbug profile image64
                      eugbugposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                      Ok, thanks Will - I'll add it to my in-tray of things to do!

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            2. Marisa Wright profile image85
              Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Moving to another niche site isn't likely to help.  The problem is that Google has become anxious about sites containing health-related information.   They know there's a lot of shonky health information out there, and they're trying to feature only reputable sites.    Recently Google adjusted their search algorithm to try to weed out the unreliable ones, and HealDove got caught by that.

              One thing that HubPages is doing, to try to fix the problem, is requiring authors to add references to their HealDove articles. I looked at your dentures Hub and you don't have one single reference to back up your advice - maybe it would help to add some?

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                TessSchlesingerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                GDPR Deleted

                1. paradigmsearch profile image58
                  paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Same here and for same reasons, both on HP and website. The Google God has spoken and we peasants must obey.

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              2. weezyschannel profile image94
                weezyschannelposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Could you be a little more specific as to how I should reference?  Its my experience so not sure how I would reference.  Thank you!!

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                1. NateB11 profile image87
                  NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  HP advises you use a properly cited list of references used in your article at the bottom of the article. I've even gotten edits where they wanted me to use references. Here's a couple resources:

                  https://hubpageshelp.com/standards/Lear … d_23699851

                  https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/08/

                  https://hubpages.com/literature/Citing- … -APA-Style

                  In an email from an editor, I was told I should include this list of references at the bottom of the article:

                  " Please add sources for your information. This will boost the credibility of your article substantially. You can create a "sources" section at the end of your article to list all of the articles/websites/etc. you consulted. For each source entry, please include article title, date of publication (if listed), author (if listed), website name, date retrieved (i.e., the date you accessed it online), and a link."

                  The way I've been doing this is to create a text capsule titled "References" and then listing these references in the appropriate way and where I include a web site I make a url link to the article I've cited in the name of the web site. To make this link you highlight the text of the website name, click on the link icon, then type in the article url.

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                  1. lobobrandon profile image77
                    lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    This may get clipped, but I'll give it a try. It's my hub on Green Apples in case the link gets clipped: https://caloriebee.com/nutrition/Green- … een-apples

                    You need to do exactly what Nate says, but an example always helps. Check out the numbers in boxes throughout the text. The numbers correspond to the number of the item in my References text capsule. I just use a regular text box with a numbered list.

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                  2. Marisa Wright profile image85
                    Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    This is interesting, because I've been given the opposite advice.   Maybe it depends on which niche site you're going for. 

                    For Healdove, I've been told to move the references into the text, as links (e.g.  "A study by SuchandSuch University found that blue doughnuts raised blood pressure" - in that case "blue doughnuts raised blood pressure" would be the link).

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                    1. NateB11 profile image87
                      NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                      I'm thinking it's a difference in approach of editors. Although I suppose it's 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other; the edits give sources and both take around the same amount of work it seems.

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      5. theraggededge profile image73
        theraggededgeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Traffic increased over the year so far. I only have one hub on Healdove, so haven't been affected by the drop-off there.

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      Will Apseposted 7 years ago

      Looking at the last year, I'm doing okay. Very good month for me financially.

      https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13723151_f1024.jpg

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      1. NateB11 profile image87
        NateB11posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah, actually when I compare last year to this year, I'm still doing better now than I was last year. I notice January was a good month, will be interesting to see how it goes this next year during that month.

        It's good to look at a longer range, across a year, puts it in perspective.

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    24. Sherry Hewins profile image69
      Sherry Hewinsposted 7 years ago

      Traffic has continued to drop, although a bit more slowly.

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        Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I know the old 'traffic rises and falls and don't sweat it too much' mantra can be annoying when traffic is declining, but there is no reason to think it will never recover. The YMYL sites are a long term concern, and perhaps hard to get right, but the other niches are pretty solid.

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    25. Rock_nj profile image82
      Rock_njposted 7 years ago

      I haven't seen a dropp off in views over the past month. In fact, with people back in school or work, I usually see more traffic during the fall than the summer.

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    26. Marisa Wright profile image85
      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago

      Just mention a site and link to it. No need for fancy citations

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    27. paradigmsearch profile image58
      paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

      Frankly, the wide swings in the traffic and earnings fluctuations remind me of my day trader days.

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    28. lobobrandon profile image77
      lobobrandonposted 7 years ago

      If they are asking you to link in the text then it's not a citation. So they shouldn't advise to cite sources but to link to sources instead.

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      1. Marisa Wright profile image85
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        My original post was about adding references. I didn't use the word "cite".

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        1. lobobrandon profile image77
          lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I meant that is the word used in the email I received.

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          1. Marisa Wright profile image85
            Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Ah, OK.   I wonder if they meant it in its exact meaning?   I've seen people talk about "citing sources" on HealDove articles when what they mean is, blue links within the text.  I can't swear that those people were editors, but I have certainly seen the word used loosely.

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        2. weezyschannel profile image94
          weezyschannelposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Gotchya

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