'IS THE HOLY SPIRIT A MAN OR A WOMEN ?'
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Hello,
I was just thinking about the Holy Trinity.Three persons in
God.The Father,Son and Holy Spirit.
The third person,the Holy Spirit may be a women.
Scarlet
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The trinity is an interesting idea which, in my view describes time. Father = Past (Origins) Present = Son Holy Spirit = Future
The gnostic text Pistus Sophia if I remember it correctly describes the descent of wisdom from god to earth and wisdom is described as feminine.
Greek texts also describe muses as feminine. The trinity idea of holy spirit is similar to the idea of a muse inspiring someone to great creativity - and thus linking them to the creative principal which is described as god.- 92
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I didn't give an answer to your original question so here goes.
To receive spirit one has to be in a receptive mode and capable of being insired. So spirit itself has no gender but the person receiving its wisdom must be in an open feminine mode.
The principle is the same as meditation, visualisation and hypnosis only in this case the influence is from a potentially higher level of consciousness. I like to think that the Holy Spirit is neither man, woman or child. Because if we define it sex we as humans will limit its abilities. The Holy Spirit is a teacher, and a make it happen spirit and because of it abilities it can relate to us all - Men, Women and Children and teach us all on the level we are currently at in our time and lives.
Trick question: It doesn't exist.
ZING.Cynicist wrote:
Trick question: It doesn't exist.
ZING.Wrong!... The Holy Trinity certainly exsist. Maybe it would be better said, that "You don't know The Holy Spirit." Also any sentence that answers a question like this - starting out with the word "Trick" makes me know just how much you do not know about what you are confirming you say does not exsist. Does it not exsist to you because you "can't" see it? or justify it logically in your mind or What?
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ScarletRyan1970 wrote:
Hello,
I was just thinking about the Holy Trinity.Three persons in
God.The Father,Son and Holy Spirit.
The third person,the Holy Spirit may be a women.
ScarletHi Scarlet
First I would like to encourage you to continue to think about the Holy Trinity to arrive at the TRUTH. The idea of the Trinity comes from the Bible, it is a Christian doctrine therefore it is crucial to refer to the Bible to find an answer. I would suggest reading John 16:5-15 in the New Testament to answer your question. You will see that it is gender specific. God is always refered to as "He"The Holy Spirit is referred to with feminine as well as masculine imagery why? Because we, being comparatively small mortal humans, have trouble relating personally to a being we have not anthropomorphized.
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sroberts9 wrote:
Cynicist wrote:
Trick question: It doesn't exist.
ZING.Wrong!... The Holy Trinity certainly exsist. Maybe it would be better said, that "You don't know The Holy Spirit." Also any sentence that answers a question like this - starting out with the word "Trick" makes me know just how much you do not know about what you are confirming you say does not exsist. Does it not exsist to you because you "can't" see it? or justify it logically in your mind or What?
The Holy Trinity does exist! I don't see the Holy Spirt but He is very much felt within me. To say that the Holy Spirit does not exist is ereasing the Father and the Son as well. You have to belief in all three not just part of the Trinity. The 'Trick" reminds me of an atheistic view and not the Truth of God.
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sroberts9 wrote:
I like to think that the Holy Spirit is neither man, woman or child. Because if we define it sex we as humans will limit its abilities. The Holy Spirit is a teacher, and a make it happen spirit and because of it abilities it can relate to us all - Men, Women and Children and teach us all on the level we are currently at in our time and lives.
I like your answer,..
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It is Asexaul neither male nor female
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Cynicist wrote:
Trick question: It doesn't exist.
ZING.Thats why you wrote about your Christian beliefs and Hitler. You're a phoney! You're just here to cause trouble and see how many people you can piss-off!
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AEvans wrote:
It is Asexaul neither male nor female
It doesn't matter even if it had a sex. The Holy Spirit is our teacher and our recognition that our prayers are heard. I believe you are correct as allways.
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Good question ScarletRyan1970.
As God, the Holy Spirit has no polarised gender. The ‘he’ is used in the general sense to attribute personality, because we consider it rude to refer to any person as ‘it’, except for for some infants.
God’s title of Father refers to his being the Originator and Instigator of all creation, but God himself has both masculine and feminine traits which he imbued in man, as recorded in Genesis 1:26-28.
'Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
'So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth."'
The Hebrew for Man is ‘Adam’ which can refer to mankind generally rather than the gender-specific male epithet ‘ish’ (woman is 'ishshah'). And Adam in turn, closely relates to Adamah (earth), Edom (red) and Dam (blood).
So Adam was originally created with the traits of both male and female, from whom God drew the female side out. This is biologically insightful, reflecting the genetic reality that you cannot create a man from a woman, because she has two X chromosomes but no Y chromosome, whereas a woman may be fashioned from a man who has both X and a Y.
So, if man was made in ‘God’s image, after his likeness’, woman must reflect a vital aspect of God's being. However, in the heavenly realm where there is no necessity for physical procreation, spirits have no sex per se, as Jesus pointed out to the sceptical sect of the Sadducees in Matthew 22:23-30.
'The same day Sadducees came to him, who say that there is no resurrection, and they asked him a question, saying, "Teacher, Moses said, 'If a man dies having no children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up children for his brother.' Now there were seven brothers among us. The first married and died, and having no children left his wife to his brother. So too the second and third, down to the seventh. After them all, the woman died. In the resurrection, therefore, of the seven, whose wife will she be? For they all had her." But Jesus answered them, "You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.'
Jesus again reveals God’s feminine side in Matthew 23:37, "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!”
And in Judaism the tangible presence of God which is sometimes called ‘the Shekinah glory’ is often considered to represent God’s feminine side. So, the Holy Spirit is not a woman, but neither is he a man. As God he transcends both, combines both and completes both.
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ScarletRyan1970 wrote:
Hello,
I was just thinking about the Holy Trinity.Three persons in
God.The Father,Son and Holy Spirit.
The third person,the Holy Spirit may be a women.
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ScarletRyan1970 wrote:
Hello,
I was just thinking about the Holy Trinity.Three persons in
God.The Father,Son and Holy Spirit.
The third person,the Holy Spirit may be a women.
ScarletHoly Spirit: Gender = Spirit.
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ScarletRyan1970 wrote:
Hello,
I was just thinking about the Holy Trinity.Three persons in
God.The Father,Son and Holy Spirit.
The third person,the Holy Spirit may be a women.
ScarletTo me, with all due respect, that's like asking what ethnicity the Holy Spirit is. I don't think it matters. By tradition through scripture, the implication is that he is male. However, traditions can be truth or legend.
This is an intriguing question to be sure. The answer, I believe is not really available for us to know.
Just my thoughts.
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DennisBarker wrote:
The gnostic text Pistus Sophia if I remember it correctly describes the descent of wisdom from god to earth and wisdom is described as feminine.
Greek texts also describe muses as feminine. The trinity idea of holy spirit is similar to the idea of a muse inspiring someone to great creativity - and thus linking them to the creative principal which is described as god.The "Holy Spirit" written of in scripture is the symbolic term given to the unique set of experiences/thoughts and emotions God experiences as you and HE live your life on Earth.
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Allan McGregor wrote:
Good question ScarletRyan1970.
As God, the Holy Spirit has no polarised gender. The ‘he’ is used in the general sense to attribute personality, because we consider it rude to refer to any person as ‘it’, except for for some infants.You assume that the Holy Spirit is a person rather than an entity. When someone uses a word in general conversation to refer to something that doesn't automatically imply rude intentions. It's the spirit in which it is used that defines intention.
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sneakorocksolid wrote:
You assume that the Holy Spirit is a person rather than an entity. When someone uses a word in general conversation to refer to something that doesn't automatically imply rude intentions. It's the spirit in which it is used that defines intention.No, I don't assume the Holy Spirit is a person, it was Jesus who decribed him as 'another Comforter' - 'allon parakleton' in John 14:16, where other 'allos' means 'another of the same kind', as opposed to 'heteros' 'one of another kind', as in 'heterosexual'.
The Bible also ascribes other personal attributes to the Holy Spirit, such as his ability to be grieved or blasphemed. Indeed, in Greek law a parakletos was no mere entity but a lawyer or attorney, which is where we get the idea of his being our Counsellor.
What we would consider rude where we live, in Scotland, is that while, we would use general epithets like 'one' when referring to yourself or 'you' when referring to oneself, we would never use 'it' of anyone.
