Does it help a marriage?

Jump to Last Post 1-22 of 22 discussions (36 posts)
  1. profile image0
    Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago

    To be honest, i have never met a successful married couple with a prenuptial agreement, so i thought i'd ask you all if you guys agree with it.  Is a prenuptial agreement necessary when you marry, or not.  Please discuss.  big_smile

    1. Cagsil profile image70
      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The only reason for a prenup' is with regards to anything of value. wink

      1. profile image0
        Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

        and if you think maybe it wont last.

    2. profile image0
      china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If marriage is about money, position and social standing then it is essential.

    3. Marisa Wright profile image87
      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      These days, if there's a big difference in the wealth the couple brings to the marriage, then it's essential. Let's face it, the odds are the marriage won't last forever, and a divorce without a prenup is a horrible experience.

      Anyone who says "oh but our love is going to last forever" has their head in the clouds, and probably isn't mature enough to get married yet.  Some marriages do last forever - but trust me, it's almost impossible to predict which ones, no matter how in love you are at the start.

      If the couple are pretty equal in assets, it's not really worth it.

      As for helping a marriage - no, it makes no difference to the success or failure of the marriage. It's only of value if it fails.  Although having a prenup forces the couple to talk about money before they get hitched, which means it's less likely to cause friction later on.

      1. profile image0
        Iðunnposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        tend to agree.

    4. profile image0
      Pani Midnyte Odinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Honestly, even though I have practically nothing of any value money-wise, I would want a prenuptial agreement. If I ever became wealthy, I wouldn't want my husband or anyone else to run away with half my money.

    5. profile image0
      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      We were married 35 years ago, we were 19, we had nothing. We slept on the floor of our apartment and used boxes as our dressers. A large wire wheel was our coffee table and a curb sofa was our couch. After we paid all our bills we had $20 a week left. The only agreement we wanted was we would eat daily.smile

  2. profile image0
    Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago

    anyone else have anything to add?

  3. blondepoet profile image68
    blondepoetposted 14 years ago

    I was engaged to this rich guy when I was 18 and his parents insisted that their son do a pre-nuptial. I was quite offended lol. I think it depends on the circumstances for sure.

    1. profile image0
      mtsi1098posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I agree - I do not have one myself but it does depend on the situation

    2. profile image61
      logic,commonsenseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So was it a deal breaker?

  4. starme77 profile image76
    starme77posted 14 years ago

    Do the Pre nump , ya never know these days , better to be safe than sorry

  5. H.C Porter profile image80
    H.C Porterposted 14 years ago

    I would like to say that there is no need for one because love lasts forever... But with common sense kicking in- divorce is a solution to an argument, or so it seams it is now a day. So.... I would think about what you would be getting it for (what would you be protecting with it) before determining to go ahead with one. If there is nothing to loose-there is nothing to gain by signing a prenuptial agreement (besides offending and hurting someone’s feelings).

    1. starme77 profile image76
      starme77posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      well I would disagree , I was married to a guy for 20 years and never really even knew him, it happens , you may love someone and think they love you and well, could end up finding out differently,

  6. aka-dj profile image64
    aka-djposted 14 years ago

    Never had one done. Been married almost 31yrs. Didn't own (still don't) enough stuff to warrant arguing over. I guess it depends on how much you want to hang on to your stuff. hmm

    Personally, I'd be happy to give her the lot! I'm not things oriented. That's my take on it.  smile

  7. Lisa HW profile image64
    Lisa HWposted 14 years ago

    I think there should be a standard "rule" that each partner takes out of the marriage what he brought in (from pre-married days, and kind of like the "back-up-and-restore" point in a PC), that each keeps things his own family gave the couple as gifts, the stuff purchased during the marriage gets negotiated (based on what makes sense), and that kids' belongings stay with the kids.  That leaves the point from the divorce on, which could be negotiated based on common sense.  What ought to be done away with is the thing that if someone comes into money after the divorce the spouse gets half of it.  That would eliminate the need for an individual pre-nup unless there were very unique circumstances.

  8. Pearldiver profile image68
    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    In NZ partners who have spent 3 years or more together (married or otherwise) share the assets 50-50..... Unless a prenup and/or associated family trust was established prior to that 3 year period.

    So......... Pre-Nups are important tools for estate planning... especially if you have children from previous relationships, that you wish to provide for outside of a new relationship that could potentially remove that ability after the short period of only 36 months. hmm

    1. Inspiration101 profile image60
      Inspiration101posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      But you have to have lived together for those 2 years, right?

  9. Rafini profile image83
    Rafiniposted 14 years ago

    I used to think if a person asked for a prenup prior to marriage, it either meant they didn't love their partner or they didn't trust that their partner loved them.  Now I'm not so sure...I mean, I can see why someone with "family" money would want to protect it and if a prenup is the only way...Is there seriously no alternatives?  smile

  10. Ivorwen profile image65
    Ivorwenposted 14 years ago

    My father-in-law got one when he remarried, about eight years ago.  It insures that her son does not share in the inheritance he has set aside for his children, and she was all for this. 

    My husband and I don't have one, but if something were ever to happen to him, I would be very careful remarrying, especially where the children and their future are concerned.

  11. profile image0
    Lecieposted 14 years ago

    i would never marry someone who needed a prenup.
    if he doesn't trust me already than the marriage is doomed to failure. by that point in the relationship their should be enough trust that he knows for a fact i wouldn't care if he's rich or poor and that i love him for him.
    if the trust isn't there than walk away before it's too late and your heart is badly broken.

  12. donotfear profile image84
    donotfearposted 14 years ago

    I think it's a good idea, especially if each has other children from previous marriages. Not a predetermination of failure, but as insurance that all previous assets will be protected if a crisis arises.

  13. BDazzler profile image77
    BDazzlerposted 14 years ago

    I have had reason to suspect that my ex-wife contemplated killing me for the life-insurance before she just decided to leave.  If there was more money and there had been a prenup, maybe she would have killed me, rather than just leaving. Who knows?

    I do think, philosophically, it sounds like a bad plan, "Baby, I love you, let's be together forever ... here, sign this in case it doesn't work out..."

    Things like that seem to be self-fulfilling prophesies.

  14. Shadesbreath profile image76
    Shadesbreathposted 14 years ago

    If you can even consider it, then you aren't in love. Why in God's name would anyone want to marry someone that they didn't with all their heart intend to be with forever?  The very idea is so absurd I can hardly wrap my head around it. 

    A pre-nup is a roommate agreement between two people who want to bone each other for an undetermined number of years with the legal benefits of being called "married."

  15. alaina3 profile image60
    alaina3posted 14 years ago

    I never thought a pre-nup should be considered until I got married to a man that I loved deeply only to find out that he was a con man who lied about just about everything.  After I kicked him out (after 9mos and almost all of my inheritance) I found out from his ex-wife all about the five other wives and six kids he had spread out all over several states.  I am still beating myself up over my blindness and stupidity.  Yes, my mom had just died and I was in a terrible place; and yes he came in on his white stallion to sweep me up but I still can't believe I fell for his line.  Get the pre-nup cause you just don't know what else you are gettin'!

  16. Lynda Gary profile image60
    Lynda Garyposted 14 years ago

    Everyone seems to be assuming that a pre-nup is a contract that applies in the event of a divorce; it is not limited to divorce.

    A pre-nup is also a contract that can apply in the event of death of a spouse. 

    If Rich Guy dies, for example, normally his entire estate would pass to Wife.  With a pre-nup, H & W agree on the distribution of funds before hand.  "Family" money, for example, might revert to the family, or go to only the biological children from a previous union, with a certain percentage of funds being allocated to the now-widow.  Just examples, but seems to take the "no trust" factor out of it, doesn't it, when we're talking about death ending the marriage rather than divorce?

    1. Shadesbreath profile image76
      Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      A formal will does this too and does not infect the essence of marriage with material concerns and a foreshadowing of doubt.

      1. profile image0
        Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

        agreed

  17. Black Lilly profile image61
    Black Lillyposted 14 years ago

    If it comes to me committing to marriage, there's no way I would consider a pre-nup.
    If you're thinking about consequences in case of divorce, you should think about the reasons for getting married first. Maybe that's not the right person.

  18. profile image0
    Madame Xposted 14 years ago

    Any guy who wants a pre-nup doesn't love me enough for me to marry him smile

  19. Uninvited Writer profile image79
    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    I think they are a good idea, when they protect both sides.

  20. profile image0
    Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago

    i would never make any girl sign a prenup with me.  unless i was like super famous like Michael Jordan or Arnold Schwarzeneger and EVERYONE knew who i was, then i might just to be on the safe  side.  however, if i was rich and NOBODY knew about it, then no i wouldn't as i would have more confidence that the girl i liked loved me for me and nothing more.

    1. brianzen profile image60
      brianzenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If you both have a stable income then a pre-nup is pointless anyway because it is down the road when mitigations start and both people tend to leave the finances at the mercy of a judge who will discard a prenup if the wife is not working and you make more than say 100,000 annualy. Best bet if you want a pre nup to work never have a joint account.

  21. Rozzy88 profile image61
    Rozzy88posted 14 years ago

    Well, I made my husband sign a prenup. He didn't have a problem with it. I am one of those trust-fund babies, and when my mother dies, I will inherit a great deal of money. I HOPE AND PRAY to God that my mother doesn't die until I'm like 90, but I didn't want my husband to have rights to the money that my mom worked her whole life to set aside for me. I have a stable job as a medical biller, so I'm not trying to "hide" money from him. I also signed one for him. My husband is Military  and we have no children. In the event that our relationship fails (hope that never happens), we just want to make sure that what's ours, stays ours.

  22. Inspiration101 profile image60
    Inspiration101posted 14 years ago

    I had a conversation with a friend of mind regarding this. She has an acquaintance who is married, but has numerous women "on the side." <-- he openly told my friend this. When she asked why, he said he would've divorced his wife by now, but he'd lose a lot of money.

    I'd never want my husband to stay with me because he was afraid to lose his money. If I was his wife, in hindsight, I'd have prefered to have the prenup so he wouldn't have to cheat on me!

 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
ClickscoThis is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy)