Best Website to Earn Money with Creative Writing?

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   MistHavenposted 15 years ago

   I've struggled with this question for quite a while. I am a creative writer by heart, but I can't seem to find the best place to make money with Creative Writing online.
   
   I know Triond lets you publish creative writing and earn money, but they way they make money is off of ads, I believe.
   
   I'm guessing that websites like Bukisa or Associated Content would be better places to publish creative writing, because you get paid per page view. But I'm not sure.
   
   So I'm wondering if anybody knows the best website to make money off of creative writing online?

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      anjalichughposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      A little while ago I tried exploring this area and found a couple of sites which did claim to pay for the articles but when I signed up and read all the terms & conditions, all my excitement fizzled out. Would you like to know how much they were paying for an article of 500-600 words? No kidding....just 3-4 dollars. Those people give out attractive ads and have excellent websites. That should explain the rest. I still find HP a good place to write. You have the copyright to your stuff besides having an excellent community here. Good luck.

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      David Trujilloposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Bubblews used to be the best one. But in all honesty, this one remains the champion. I have recently reviewed another, it allows users to use Word Press just like they had their own blog.

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   Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

   If anyone tells you please let me know as well. I am trying to find out the same thing. So please keep me updated if you find any good websites and if I find any I'll tell you.

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   MistHavenposted 15 years ago

   You got it!

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   cashmereposted 15 years ago

   try out this hub
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Making-Money-On … ring-Sites
   and there are more here
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Making-Money-on-these-Websites

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   lrohnerposted 15 years ago

   Making money from creative writing is a tough one. I, personally, would look more to places like Blurb.com than HP or Associated Content, Helium, Triond or the others. There are lots of sites for journalistic content or "how to" writing, but creative? That's tough.

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   AEvansposted 15 years ago

   The best place to make money on creative writing honestly is right here on HubPages, I have been to many but this site pays the best.

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      Ultimate Hubberposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That's what I have learned. I was getting a bit impatient when I was new here, but I have learned that if you write some really good hubs, you can earn quite a bit of money.

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         AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         You certainly can.

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         awsydneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Mel Gibson
         
         Which one of your hubs made you some decent cash? I want to check those out. Please let me know! Thanks

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      marshall92posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I hope you're right. I am fairly new here, and I haven't seen any earnings yet. Hopefully that changes in the near future : ).

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      Bard of Elyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with AEvans!

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   kerrygposted 15 years ago

   I'd be interested to hear an answer to this as well.
   
   One possibility that did occur to me is to self-publish through Lulu or a similar website and use HubPages to promote your book, by posting an excerpt with a link to buy the complete manuscript at the bottom.

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   Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

   If going the self-publishing way, Authorhouse would be a good one. I have them saved because if I can't find an agent then I'm going that route to self publish my own books.
   
   online it's hard NOT to find scams everywhere. Already was scammed myself with a litarary agency.

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   MistHavenposted 15 years ago

   After doing a little research, I'm starting to believe that Triond might be the best bet if trying to publish creative writing online and make a profit.
   
   Originally, I though Triond only paid authors by splitting ad revenue. Apparently, Triond users are paid on a page-view basis as well.
   
   Also, unlike Bukisa, Triond encourages writers to publish more forms of writing than just how-to articles.
   
   I'm going to give Triond a shot and let you all know how it works out.

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      Lisa HWposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Glad you mentioned this.  I've been a "member" of Triond for ages, but I don't have anything on there; because there are only "so many" "informative-article-only" sites one person can contribute to.    I didn't realize they even took creative writing stuff.

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         Anti-Valentineposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I think they take a lot of things, and not just limited to writing, but music, videos, and other things as well. Your content, depending on what it is, is published over at different sites.

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            arunjain1989posted 15 years agoin reply to this

            you are right..they have 20 different websites to publish the contents submitted by users...But I would like to know one thing as i ahve recently joined...does it really pays the lowest for creative writing?

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               Anti-Valentineposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               That's what MistHaven says. I guess this thread will continue, and we'll find out for sure.

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               MistHavenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I asked over on the forums at Triond, and the consensus was that creative writing was the least profitable.

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                  arunjain1989posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  MistHaven wrote:

                  
                  You are absolutely right.Its been 4 days and i have only earned 0.02$.

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    Sounds good. thanks MistHaven. :-)

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    Choke Franticposted 15 years ago

    After reading this, I think I might give Triond a go. It'd be great to get paid for writing poems.

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    Gemsongposted 15 years ago

    This sounds interesting. Maybe I'll give it a try with my short stories. Let us know how it goes.

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    arunjain1989posted 15 years ago

    I have recently signed up on triond as i will have to wait for six months for my google adsense publisher id.But i am getting very few views(only 10).I really dont know how to increase them.But yea if  someone has a good traffic that can really pay off.

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    Jane@CMposted 15 years ago

    I'm at Triond and I don't remember them asking for a google adsense id, they pay on page views through your paypal or check.  You can see that once you publish on there, the adds are already up.  Right now they pay on the 10th of each month.

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    Anti-Valentineposted 15 years ago

    I've thought about giving Triond a go for a while now, since I was also interested in this idea.

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    MistHavenposted 15 years ago

    Triond might not be the way to go. I hear the payout for creative writing is the lowest amount on that site. Such a disapointment.

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       Anti-Valentineposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Shame, that. I also read that like the "HP split" (60/40)- HP takes 40% of your earnings, etc, Triond is 50/50. Not sure about this, though. I googled it, and it checks out.

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          awsydneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Does this mean if I earn $10 from Google Adsense here, HP take $4??

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    sparksdaniel2000posted 15 years ago

    I had the same question and thanks for asking.  I guess HubPages is the place to be!!! let me get on with another hub!

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    asalvaniposted 15 years ago

    these are reliable to write for:
    
    associated content
    squido
    bukisa
    helium
    
    but hubpages is better design and you can rely on it more.

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       viryaboposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I'm wih squidoo, and have only 8 lenses which have so far fetched me just a few bucks.
       I joined HP after Squidoo, and have not been able to go back there cos HP has become to me so addictive. I start off writing an article for Squidoo, but end up publishing it here instead.
       The earnings are better here IMO.
       I may go back to them after ive successfully published 100 hubs here. Such a task, but an interesting one if i may say so.
       I get tons of tips from hubbers. Something i feel is missing in Squidoo.

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    Gemsongposted 15 years ago

    So this would be the best place to post my short stories? That seems to be the general consensus. I joined Triond but haven't done anything with it. I need to limit where and what I post. Otherwise I'll never keep up. Then theres always Nanowrimo in November and I still don't have a plot and...
    
    I'm babbling.

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       Anti-Valentineposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       @asalvani
       
       I agree with you on HP, but Helium- not so sure. Most people only attempt this when they are more experienced. I once read a while back on these forums that Helium isn't one of the best sites to write on. There's been a lot of debate about this.
       
       In fact several people on here have defected from Helium. I haven't ever become a writer there because of the things they had to say about it.
       
       But, to each their own.

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    lorifayeposted 15 years ago

    If anything do not take a class.  I find teachers are inspiration killers.  Try taking out one of your papers from high school that you thought was really great but the teacher gave you a "C" or lower and let an editor of your favorite magazine look it over.  You would be surprised.  Let your inspiration guide you.

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    pgrundyposted 15 years ago

    I think the best venue for creative writing is still print media, like journals, magazines, anthologies, etc.
    
    If you start by sending your stuff out to 'Little Literary Magazines' (which is a category of magazine), you have a way better chance of getting some publications. Most of those only pay in copies, but if you do it half a dozen times, then you have some publications under your belt to note in a cover letter and can you can try publications that pay.
    
    You can find lots of places to submit your creative writing, and also lots of contests and so on, and Poets & Writers online:
    
    http://www.pw.org/
    
    You can also go to open mike readings, self publish through Lulu.com or somewhere like that, and then sell your anthology or book at your readings.
    
    These days, it's pretty tough to make any real money doing creative writing, but it's not impossible. Given that you have only a finite amount of time and energy, getting your stuff "out there" in front of live people and in print seems like a more profitable way to go. Check out Lita Sorensen's hub on it too:
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/Real-Life-101-P … or-Writers
    
    Lita has a real 'job' job as a writer and she's also a published poet, so she's been there done that. You could email her to through her profile and I'm sure she'd have good advice for you.  Good luck!

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       MistHavenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I haven't given print a try, and what you said makes a lot of sense. I'm definitely going to check those out.

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          pgrundyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Good luck to you! It's not that hard to break into print, it's just tedious. I have one friend who sends the same batch of poems out to 12 journals at a pop, and sometimes you get 12 rejections, but eventually you start to get *hits*.

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    pgrundyposted 15 years ago

    Oh yes and I meant to say that, it's true, on websites like HP and Triond and so forth, creative writing pays the absolute worst. Honestly I think it's a waste of your time and talent to publish creative work online. Plus, if you are good, someone will steal it, send it out, and print publish it. Anything good on the net gets stolen over and over again.

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    Dame Scribeposted 15 years ago

    The sites have different pay yes and you can have more than one acct with HP n generate $$ for both sites and whatever other sites you have. Put them together n that's how you will generate more $$ for youself.

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    Rynaldosposted 15 years ago

    My vote would be helium.com

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       Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Perhaps at one time, but not now.  Avoid Helium at all costs as its TOS changes regularly, and not for the good.  I picked up a publisher for short mystery stories at $50 a pop but now Helium frowns on members dealing directly with publishers because they can't get a piece of the action.  Besides, cretins run the site.

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    pgrundyposted 15 years ago

    Helium retains all rights to your material, that's what I don't like (besides the skinflint pay scale). You post something, it's theirs, and you can't take it down even if you want to. Most print publications only buy first rights--which means they get to publish it first, then you can republish it if you want if you cite where it first appeared.
    
    The other thing that irritates me about Helium is that peer review system. Sometimes it works, other times it seems like the people reviewing articles aren't even reading them. I quit writing for Helium as I think they're kind of exploitive. I don't like the way they set things up over there.

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       Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I agree with your assessment.  The rating system is terrible as they allow raters with no idea of grammar or spelling to judge articles.  I no longer write there as I was banned from the site for revealing the stewards were not "unpaid volunteers" as they claimed but were paid every month.  Also the stewards have privileges including direct rating allowing them to manipulate the ranking of certain articles, including those competing with their own.  This may explain the high number of contests and marketplace articles won by the stews.  Of course they kept my 109 articles and still feature them on the site.  No money for me as they keep everything my articles earn now.

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          pgrundyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Wow, I always suspected that the stewards were kind of manipulating things. I mean, they did seem to win the contests all the time, and it wasn't always obvious why. I won third place in a contest when I first joined and then never again. I noticed over time that this seemed to be a pattern. A new person would win every so often, but rarely more than once or twice.
          
          I really disliked how you had to write an article for marketplace and then just hope it was picked for payment. That seemed screwed to me--all to their benefit and none to the writer's benefit.

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             Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             The censorship of members complaints and posts on the forums is terrible.  I was the subject of a thread on the private stewards forum for a while until I let them know I was monitoring it through a "deep throat" insider.  The stewards are told to talk up any new changes the members disagree with and are called the "Helium cheerleaders by many members.  Some stewards quit after finding out others were getting paid for the same work they were doing for free.
             
             I knew they would boot me for making them apologize for the deceptions, but it was well worth it!

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                pgrundyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                The weirdest thing is, you aren't even the only person I've met through Hub Page got kicked off of Helium--and always over the payment and policy stuff, never over bad language or spam or anything.
                
                Sounds like they should just call it Heysucker.com!

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                   Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   I reported them to the Better Business Bureau but they would not respond to them about the charges I made against them.  Now I find one of my mystery stories for sale as a Kindlebook on Amazon.com.  It has my name on it but I still get nothing.

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                      pgrundyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      That totally blows.

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          MistHavenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          After reading this, I'm definitely NOT writing for helium. It's pretty much a gamble, and I don't like wasting my time for no reason. That's why I stopped writing for Constant Content. Granted I only wrote one article, but it took me 2 whole days to research, write and proofread that monster, and then it didn't get picked up.
          
          So I just posted it here instead

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             sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Constant Content is a GREAT resource, its true it is a gamble, but the payouts can be huge..with a little tweaking you can quickly write articles for all the better sites, just always remembering not to put in more effort than the site is worth
             
             for example i still use associated content but i spend no more than 15 minutes writing an article and i always include my own sites as research links
             
             My order:
             
             Hubpages: (not necessarily the very best for payment, but has the best combined benefits)
             
             demand studios/eHow
             
             constant content
             
             associated content
             
             i actaully just gone done explaining my expereinces/processes with each of these sites in my latest hub...so was a bit surprised to see this forum topic

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    Lady_Eposted 15 years ago

    You don't rate HP very high then??
    
    I see examiner.com on Forums quite a lot. There are some Hubbers who are doing well with it. I think its based in America. You might want to check it out.

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    SweetiePieposted 15 years ago

    Hubpages is first and foremost the best site for making money online in my experience.  The examiner.com is coming in second for me, and if I wrote on there every day I would definitely make more.  However, I am very picky about my articles there and most are crafting how-to's, which take time to put together.  However, when I do post there I feel their monetizing is very fair.  Ehow is the third best as it grows slowly over time, but pay out comes if you have a few good articles there.  Squidoo has really not done much for me and I probably should put more time in there, but to be honest I just do not see the point.  I would rather put in my extra time over at ehow and examiner where I do see more immediate pay-offs.

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    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Yep glad we have hubpages.
    I would like to see how many times you could double your income if you wrote commercial hubs here on hubpages Pam!
    
    I love your hubs, but I don't buy from them! My hubs are very non commercial too, as I write as you do about things that interest me.
    Maybe you already do as I have started to do, write commercial hubs under another hubpage profile.
    
    I am building it with keywords to attract tourism ads in my own country.
    You are a top writer, with real humor and sassy to boot, I reckon you could really take off commercially on hubpages if you haven't already!

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       pgrundyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Earnest! I should do that, I really should. Nelle Hoxie does well with them too. I don't have a second account here, I just write about what interests me. But I should think harder about what I could earn with commercial hubs. I say I will do it, and then I always put it off. I'm glad yours are going well! Best of luck!

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    Randy Godwinposted 15 years ago

    Well the money is one thing but being able to trust the people you are dealing with means a lot to me.  When people from the upper levels are lying to you about simple problems it makes one wonder about the important aspects of the site.
    
    Helium does not give any breakdown of the page views received from one's articles, no clicks, no percentage, no nothing.  You are at their mercy.  i did notice my articles were featured more since they didn't have to share the revenue with me anymore, sheer coincidence I'm sure. 
    
    Also, if you don't have a rating star at the end of the month you do not receive any page view money your articles have earned for that month.  You earn nothing for your work and Helium keeps the whole thing.  Not surprising that some lose their rating star at the last moment and get no pay.
    
    The rating system is a joke.

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    mirajrahaposted 15 years ago

    for all those who want to try out Triond,please give me their names,I'll check your stuff,also I heard staying there since Feb that articles gets more traffic than poetry.sad for me though as i am strictly into poetry.

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       arunjain1989posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I am on triond and have submitted 2 poems there but it is not working for me.I am still waiting for my adsense to get approved.

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    GusTheRedneckposted 15 years ago

    Hello PGrundy:  You wrote - "I reported them to the Better Business Bureau but they would not respond to them about the charges I made against them.  Now I find one of my mystery stories for sale as a Kindlebook on Amazon.com.  It has my name on it but I still get nothing."
    
    It is a criminal offense to steal someone's copyrighted writing, but you can't follow that route unless you registered the copyright.  The BBB is not going to do anything for you.  You can check on copyright stuff via the Library of Congress on the Web, for example, using Google or another search engine.
    
    If you want to verify that the book is really of your own production, you might consider buying a copy and go on from there. Whereas suing a vendor in a civil court action would cost you lots of money, you do not pay for criminal proceedings, and copyright stuff fits into that category in a theft situation.
    
    Good luck.

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    Hui (蕙)posted 9 years ago

    I don't think any website can help a lot to make money for writing, but they can help to publicise.

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    illenaposted 8 years ago

    Yes, you can try at Redgage.  I am also a creative writer. Initially, I faced similar problems but my circle has provided me the reference fo this site and since more than one year I am sending my writings here and earning good side income.

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