BRACE YOURSELVES! Internet Marketers targetting Hub Pages

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   Eric Graudinsposted 14 years ago

   OK Guys, prepare yourselves.
   
   Some one called "jspmedia" has produced a video guide on how to drive massive traffic to your website using Hub Pages. There's a 3 month member with that name here: hub score 77, 0 fans, several hubs published, no forum activity. Might be the same person - or not. If it is, the activity doesn't inspire much confidence.
   
   They're selling a Private Label Rights course for $17 on the Warrior Special Offers forum, complete with website and sales material so that buyers can sell the course to as many other people as they can - who can also flog it to as many people as they can.
   
   The sales page is at hubpagestrafficguide.com
   
   ========= from sales page: ============================
   Course content is:
   
   -- Video 1: What are Hubpages -- 9 min. 39 sec.
   
   -- Video 2: How To Create A Hubpages Account -- 7 min. 07 sec.
   
   -- Video 3: Finding a Product to Promote -- 9 min. 40 sec.
   
   -- Video 4: Creating a New Hub -- 13 min. 41 sec.
   
   -- Video 5: Driving Massive Traffic To Your Hubs and Websites -- 11 min. 02 sec.
   
   THIS SITE IS 100% UNIQUE.
   
   THE BUYER HAS PLR RIGHTS TO THE DOMAIN NAME, ALL GRAPHICS, AND CONTENT.
   
   Only First 20 Buyers - $17
   
   ========== End Sales PAge paste ===============
   
   
   I wonder how they're going to sell the domain name to 20 people. If that's the quality of the advice, then gawd help the purchasers!!
   I also wonder how much of the content would have been taken from the information that's freely available on Hub Pages - either from HP or from various knowledgeable authors.
   
   Sorry, I don't have the time to check it out.
   But if someone wants to spend $17 to buy a copy and review it - it could be time well spent.
   And since you then would then  have distribution rights for the material, you could make it available free to all other hub pages users.
   
   Hope Maddy and the gang have got their super duper high powered SPAM detectors all fuelled up! They might be needed.
   
   On the other hand, it might be an excellent resource that shows people how to use Hub Pages properly. But I doubt it.
   
   Eric G.

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      Shirley Andersonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I missed this one, but I expect to see this sort of thing at Digital Point rather than WF.  The guy must've figured he'd clean up - WSO's cost money.
      
      Just last night, I read somewhere that the IM world is pushing HP as a major means of generating income.  Sheesh!  I guess it was bound to be tried sooner or later because of how well this community is doing.

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      sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      This isnt new,Hubpages is targeted by many systems out there.
      
      There is a program called the 30 Day Challenge that includes Hubpages as one of the days on the challenge.
      
      One big difference is that the 30 day challenge is free (albeit, once your on there list they send you tons of upsells) is a very, very good resource for anyone who truly wants to learn the in and outs of internet marketing and they give you access to the best keyword research program Ive ever used Market Samurai
      
      http://www.thirtydaychallenge.com/challenge/47874
      
      That of course is a referral link, but as its a free program, i dont know what the point of referrals is, lol
      
      Its worth signing up just to get market samurai. You may be able to get a market samurai trial just from there page too, but teh 30dc has instructional videos
      
      As for Warrior Forums-that is one of the premiere marketing forums on the net, it has its own collection of crap like any other marketing resource but is in general pretty respectable forum. Many of the "superaffilaites" use it pretty heavily.
      
      as for the domain name "hubpagestrafficguide" hubpages can surely send ac/d for trademark use it they cared--i know ebay, likes to send them to me for my domains that include ebay
      
      I found this on warrior forums - Godaddy coupon code <b> "love99" </b>will get you .99 cent dot.com  domain (plus .20 ICANN fee)
      
      Not all IM is crap...you just need really high boots to wade through it all

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         Eric Graudinsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Sunforged, you're dead right.
         
         And Thirty day challenge is an excellent program to work through.
         I've referred many people to it.
         I also own Marketing Samurai, which is an excellent tool for keyword analysis and selection - but it has a fairly steep learning curve.
         
         I also use Micro Niche finder extensively as a "first filter" to accurately target useful keywords.
         http://www.micro-nichefinder.com
         (If you look at the videos, you'll learn a lot about the importance and selection of keywords)
         Cheers, Eric G.
         
         P.S. I wouldn't use go-daddy as a domain registrar, even it the domains were free.
         See http://nodaddy.com

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            sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            i think ive read nodaddy.com from another post you referred...i will eventually be switching everything i have up over to hostgator, or might even go off shore (im in the states) as a result of reading those stories-
            
            on my way to check out micro niche finder now-thanks

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         nobama is betterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         stay AWAY from godaddy:
         
         http://NOdaddy.com
         
         ^^ enough true to life horror stories to last you five lifetimes.  While they seem a viable choice.. when you get burned it will be badly... and you will get burned at some point.
         
         ICANN rules require you to have current contact information in whois.  If you're using public whois you CAN used munged contact information like
         
         f9a9s9c9i9s9t9s@a9c9l9u.o9r9g--remove9sandeverythingafterdashes.com
         
         which any intelligent sentient person can resolve into
         
         fascists@aclu.org
         
         if godaddy wants to take your domain they allege the automated spambots were unable to reach you at the published whois.  And right well they shouldn't: that was the point.  A REAL person could have contacted you.  Godaddy will snatch your domain.  If you're on the receiving end of slightly less fascism you will have the 'opportunity' to pay an excessive extortion fee to recover your domain.  lucky you?  no.
         
         
         
         moniker.com is nodaddy.com forum recommended but doesn't provide hosting and have elusive tech support.  While they suck the least they too have inane policies.  The best is password expiration that requires you to call them.  They keep super fantastic phone hours that makes that one a real joy.
         
         Use 'cheap' as your primary criteria?  You're going to get hosed.
         
         
         ---------
         
         godaddy (http://NOdaddy.com) web hosting is a joke.
         
         Go ahead and try to use the space YOU'VE PAID FOR.  Go ahead.   If you interact with support EVER you're account is flagged for routine 'inspection'.  If no interaction you may well be flagged anyway.
         
         You'll get a delightful "stop using your hosting" letter saying that you cannot store files on your account.  Godaddy hosts appears to have ZERO  understanding of apache, a webserver technology.  Files are stored and the software serves them up to requesting visitor's web browser.
         
         Can't store files?
         
         You ain't got not website.

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   jimmythejockposted 14 years ago

   that might explain why I have been getting a few hits on my how to make money on Hubpages from a site called warrior Forums....jimmy
   P.S Thanks for the heads up Eric

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   Eric Graudinsposted 14 years ago

   You're welcome Jimmy.
   I might go over the the Warrior forums and ask an innocent question or two
   
   See warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/54100-private-label-rights-hubpage-guide-videos-package.html
   
   (You'll need to cut and paste the link :-) )

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   Inspirepubposted 14 years ago

   Does Mark Knowles know his Hub is being used in this sales pitch ...?
   
   I imagine he would be somewhat dark about that!
   
   Jenny

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   WHoArtNowposted 14 years ago

   That is quite funny really it shows people are taking hubpages seriously!
   
   I'd love to watch the videos just to see how much of the info on them is available FREE from within some hubs and forums!

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   Dorsiposted 14 years ago

   If anyone takes this site seriously the joke will be on them- the guy can't even spell HubPages right!!!
   At his site here is the first line of his "pitch":
   
   "Hubpapes.com is one of the top Web 2.0 websites on the internet."
   
   
   HUBPAPES ANYONE?

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   SweetiePieposted 14 years ago

   Someone could always go there and open another thread with a link to a hub showing how to use hubpages for free.  That might make people be less likely to buy his product, but why would anyone pay for this type of information is beyond me when all of this is readily available for free.

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   charlemontposted 14 years ago

   Only video 5 seems to be related to traffic question, others are about anything but generating traffic.
   In my opinion, the most comprehensive "Hubpages traffic system" is included in local forum threads. Essentially several pages of text. The only negative point: lots of work
   It's tempting to pay $17 in the hope to get some magical key that opens the gates of SE traffic, though.

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      Lissieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Which is why these things sell - they sell the dream of the easy $ - unfortunately there is no easy answer

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   terrygposted 14 years ago

   It is a very poor site. The buy it now link doesn't work.

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    Eric Graudinsposted 14 years ago

    Looks like there's not much interest - and the few that have purchased don't appear to have received delivery.
    Still, even if one marketer with a huge list starts selling it it could mean hundreds - or thousands of new hubbers.
    Hope they are being told how to use HP properly.
    Eric G.

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    JYOTI KOTHARIposted 14 years ago

    I think, He is successful in his mission. We are unnecessarily discussing and promoting the person.
    Jyoti Kothari

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    TKIMWRSVCposted 14 years ago

    Hey Eric I saw your post there
    Yeah looks like the one buyer has been gypped
    
    I tried to get to the site he posted there the hubpagestrafficguide.com and he has exceeded bandwidth
    
    
    Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
    The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
    Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.8i DAV/2 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at hubpagestrafficguide.com Port 80
    
    
    So so much for his idea

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    Benjimesterposted 14 years ago

    Well, ever since the invention of the pet rock, I've become convinced that people can find a way to sell just about anything.  Thanks for the heads up.

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    Julie-Ann Amosposted 14 years ago

    We write quite a lot of pages and guides, articles etc on how to use HubPages for marketing - hell, I sell the service of making hubs and posting for clients (and no we didn't write this one!).    But it's how to use them PROPERLY.  Hopefully many of the buyers quickly be spotted and removed - unless it really is a good guide.

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    Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

    Dammit - I missed the whole thing. That site is dead. Were they saying nice things about me?

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       Eric Graudinsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       No, they said you were an absolute bastard who wouldn't know how to write a shopping list.
       So they got it pretty right :-)
       Eric G.
       
       P.S. Not often you lead with your chin like that. You're slipping.

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          Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Getting old mate.......

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    JYOTI KOTHARIposted 14 years ago

    whats up?

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       Eric Graudinsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Helium Balloons.

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    Benson Yeungposted 14 years ago

    Some believe activities like this are helpful to the site. "The muddier the merrier". May be, may be not. I am still flagging promotional hubs when I see them. However, my own latest hub is admittedly promotional in nature and is begging to be flagged. LOL.

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       Shirley Andersonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Benson, honey, we would never flag you! 

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          Benson Yeungposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks Shirley. (But I overheard from CC that writers are mostly liars)

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             Shirley Andersonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             :0   I'm shocked! 

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                Benson Yeungposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Shirley,
                my hub on http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-give-gre … st-secrets was flagged last night for adult content. I'm really glad to have become a recognized porn writer. Could it be you who by chance did it while sleep-hubbing? Ooops, silly question. How can you recall this if you really did.

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       Eric Graudinsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I wouldn't regard that hub as promotional, or even think of flagging it.
       Eric G.

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          Benson Yeungposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Eric,
          A friend in deed.

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    newsworthyposted 14 years ago

    Eric, are you familiar with hubpagesexplained dot com and their 37 dollar course?  Any thoughts or feedback on the material is appreciated. 
    
    Any users of it here?

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       pauldeedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I'm not too familiar with it, but I don't suspect you'll find much there that isn't available in the Hubpages Guide, or here in the forums.  There really aren't any great HubPages secrets.   If they've packaged up good information in any easier to consume package I suppose it could be worth $37 to someone ...

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       Eric Graudinsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       No, I don't know anything about the course or its content..
       The domain was registered in July 2007 by Paul Forcey, who is one of the authors of the course.
       
       A bit of searching shows that he has been on Hub Pages for 2 years, published 2 hubs, and has 9 fans.
       Sort of flying under the radar a bit. His hub pages user name is squidhub
       
       I'm a member of a couple of forums on which he participates, but he probably doesn't know me.
       From what I can recall, he has provided some sound advice to people about marketing, etc.
       
       I don't know what the quality of his hub pages book is like.
       If it is well written and accurate, it could well be a worthwhile purchase for someone who is time poor, and doesn't have hours and hours to research all the free advice available on hub pages.
       
       It's been a long held belief that nothing on the internet is free - you have to either pay in money or time.
       
       So - that's about all I can offer.
       Regards, Eric G.

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    WeddingConsultantposted 14 years ago

    exceeded their bandwidth? Boo!

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    mariaevesonlineposted 14 years ago

    Your dead right my friend.  Hub Pages Im new to this site so do percervere with me. Im so excited about this new platform.
    Wish me luck. Chat anytime...

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    yoshi97posted 14 years ago

    Uh ... so let me get this right ... All the successful hubbers sharing their secrets for free ... we shouldn't listen to them?
    
    Oh ... there's more?
    
    We should pay someone $17 to learn what we can learn here for free?
    
    Um ... okay ...
    
    That just makes no sense, but hey, it just might generate some traffic so I'll say no more.

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