How much is hubpages.com worth?

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  1. colorfulone profile image84
    colorfuloneposted 3 years ago

    Estimated worth:  $91,500,000
    91 and a 1/2 million dollars? 

    How much can HubPages earn in a year?
    $19,493,280 / year

    Okey, you might be wondering where on cyber-space I got these figures.
    ( worthofweb.com/website-value/hubpages.com )

    Can that even be close to being right?

    1. Susana S profile image98
      Susana Sposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I think that might be a bit of an overestimate.

      If you go by traffic... approx 22 million per month, 40% of which is theirs = 8.8 million, and use an average CPM of $5.

      8,800 x $5 = $44,000 per month.

      Most of that is going to be spent on staff, building costs, equipment etc.

      1. colorfulone profile image84
        colorfuloneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Well m'dear, that estimate certainly does seem to be a more realistic one for me to swallow, Susana. Still, that is pretty amazing to me, that's a lot of money.

        1. Susana S profile image98
          Susana Sposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          It does sound a lot but it's not really, not when you factor in the costs. I've worked with one man band websites that earned much more than that (well they did after I worked my magic on them lol big_smile).

      2. clivewilliams profile image84
        clivewilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        ads?

        1. Susana S profile image98
          Susana Sposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Income from ads at an average of $5 per 1000 (that's what I used as CPM).

      3. Writer Fox profile image47
        Writer Foxposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Sorry, but that is not nearly enough to pay 23 full-time employees in San Francisco.

        1. Susana S profile image98
          Susana Sposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          CPM could be double that or more. Plus I have no idea if HP is in the red or black.  I'm not pretending to actually know, just providing a means to make an estimate.

          I definitely don't see any way that HP could make over $1.5 million per month from the traffic it gets.

          1. Writer Fox profile image47
            Writer Foxposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            But, you're looking at the wrong traffic figures anyway.  It's not visitors that matters; it's page views.  Monthly page views right now are 51,499,536.  Forty percent of that is 20,599,814. A page view is worth about 1/2 cent = $102,999 per month.

            1. Susana S profile image98
              Susana Sposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              Yes that seems reasonable.

              In my seriously sleep deprived state I  wasn't going for precision, just more realistic guesstimates.

            2. colorfulone profile image84
              colorfuloneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              $102,999 per month does seem more realistic with 23 full time staff.
              Thank you Susana and Fox for putting your heads together on this.

    2. NateB11 profile image93
      NateB11posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I've seen that site's estimates before and wondered about its accuracy. Put it this way, it said the worth of one of my sites was way more than I make from it. So, not sure how or what they are measuring.

    3. relache profile image86
      relacheposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      How can you even begin to think that's anything but a fictional and fiscal exaggeration?

  2. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago

    Most sites of that type give a wild overestimate. I tried it on my own blog and got a good laugh out of it.

    In the end things are worth what someone would actually pay for them.

    1. colorfulone profile image84
      colorfuloneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      That is so true, psyche, it boils down to how much someone is willing to pay for online realestate. 

      Good to know you got a good laugh from the figures that came up for your blog.

    2. profile image0
      calculus-geometryposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      It says Bubblews is worth $6 million, lol.  It also says FB is worth about $78 billion, but that one just might be about right.

      1. colorfulone profile image84
        colorfuloneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Now, there is a chuckle, "Bubblews is worth $6 million". 
        Okey Dokey!

  3. Rafiq23 profile image86
    Rafiq23posted 3 years ago

    Susana! What about clicks that also generate revenue?

    1. Susana S profile image98
      Susana Sposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      The average cpm I used would include clicks and amazon and ebay revenue.

  4. jacharless profile image81
    jacharlessposted 3 years ago

    1.5 cents per visitor, based on that report, sounds about right as far as base valuation goes. Also take into account HubPages is a seasoned site -nearly a decade in business, and ranked in the top 100 of all websites that exist. If factoring in Ad Revenue and mTurk elements, I'd (gu)estimate around 10-15 cents per visitor.

  5. Barbara Kay profile image91
    Barbara Kayposted 3 years ago

    My website earns more than that site states. So the figures may be close to accurate for Hubpages.

  6. Paul Maplesden profile image68
    Paul Maplesdenposted 3 years ago

    Here's some (admittedly very guestimated) math:

    If we assume that HP is paid per click by Google AdSense (this is the normal model for publishers), rather than per view:

    AdSense income
    Optimised RPM: $7.00
    Page views per month: mobile: 17 million; desktop: 13 million
    Reduction for ad-blocking / hubs without ads: 20% reduction mobile; 30% reduction desktop
    Gross revenue earned from AdSense: mobile: $95,000; desktop: $64,000
    40% split for HP: mobile: $38,000; desktop: $26,000 total: $64,000

    Amazon income:
    Assume a third of hubs have an Amazon module; 2% of page views generates a click through to Amazon (targeted) and 10% of those click throughs make a purchase:
    20,000 purchases a month
    Average sale of $20
    Commission (highest tier): 8.5%
    Revenue of $40,000 a month, 40% split: $41,000

    ebay income
    Assume a tenth of hubs have an ebay module; 2% of page views generates a click through to  ebay (targeted) and 10% of those click throughs make a purchase:
    6,500 purchases a month
    Average ebay fees of $2.50
    Commission: 60%
    Revenue of $10,000 a month, 40% split: $4,000

    Total revenue
    AdSense: $64,000
    Amazon: : $41,000
    ebay: $4,000

    Grand total: $109,000 a month

    A standard business valuation is three times gross revenue, so:

    $109,000 a month x 12 months x 3 = $3.9 million

    There are a lot of guestimates in here, but I have tried to use reasonable numbers where possible.

    Edit: I see that WriterFox and I came it at pretty similar amounts, which makes me feel a little better about my math!

    1. Uzochukwu Mike profile image58
      Uzochukwu Mikeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I think I somehow believe in the calculation made by Paul Maplesden.

  7. aesta1 profile image90
    aesta1posted 3 years ago

    With 23 employees plus other business costs, that's not a lot.

    1. NateB11 profile image93
      NateB11posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I was thinking the same thing.

    2. jacharless profile image81
      jacharlessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Spot On. Average San Francisco tech-based employee earns roughly $85k. That's $2M annual in base salaries.

  8. The Examiner-1 profile image71
    The Examiner-1posted 3 years ago

    I was wondering why you cam up with them. Is something going on?

    1. colorfulone profile image84
      colorfuloneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Examiner, I stumbled on that site when I was searching for information on something else. Not ever seeing a worth-of-web tool before, let alone never hearing about one, I wasn't sure what to think about it's accuracy. I did think it was a surprisingly high amount. But then, I didn't know how much HubPages gets per-view, now I know it is 1/2 cent. 
      -- Interesting to see the "guesstimates"!

      1. The Examiner-1 profile image71
        The Examiner-1posted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Oh I see.

  9. tlcs profile image58
    tlcsposted 3 years ago

    Do you think maybe they could find it in their hearts to give us hubber's a little pay rise if the facts provided are correct? (Not yet had a pay out after 3 years!) smile

    1. Uzochukwu Mike profile image58
      Uzochukwu Mikeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Tics, the payout is dependent on how active and traffic any hubber receives. Some earn high and others low or nothing depending on traffic.

      Personally, I received two payouts within one year of membership here.

  10. Barbara Kay profile image91
    Barbara Kayposted 3 years ago

    Be sure to check what your own hubs are worth. Just type in the url to your profile. The amount for mine is about right, so yours should be too.

  11. Peggy W profile image97
    Peggy Wposted 3 years ago

    Using that website, I checked mine and while it might have been true in the past, the lowered amounts I am receiving today would not amount to the figure given.  I am assuming it is an annual figure.  It is interesting in any case.  I did not know it existed.

 
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