HubPages To Charge for Forum Posts ??

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   Eric Graudinsposted 15 years ago

   Hi,
   
   A little bird told me that HubPages are considering charging Forum Users for the amount of space that they take up when they reply to Forum posts, and quote screen after screen of someone elses comments above their own one line contributions.
   
   This makes the forums very hard to read, as it's hard to pick out your little nugget of truth out of the screenfulls of quotes, requotes, re-requotes, and re-re-requotes of other peoples stuff.
   
   This practice is clogging up the hub pages servers, and I have it on good authority that a fee is being considered for this waste of hub pages resources. The fee will be deducted from your HubPages earnings.
   
   So - just in case this is true, here's how to avoid paying this fee.
   
   When you click quote/reply on a forum post, remove all of the stuff that is not relevant to your reply. People who are following a thread don't need to keep wading through what everyone else has posted.
   
   Use your brains. If you are making a comment about a post which appears on the same page, it's not usually necessary to quote any of the original comment.
   
   If you're making a comment on something that appeared several pages back, usually a few sentences of the original post is sufficient.
   
   Yours,
   In the interests of saving you money -
   and reducing the wear and tear on PG DN keys,
   Eric G. :-)

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      Zsuzsy Beeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      After seeing some of the threads that have been posted here in the forums lately you wonder if there is any of that left...
      Eric you're positively right. Thumbs up to you for pointing it out here.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You may want to add a disclaimer or something. Certain parts of the community never evolved irony genes and may take this seriously.
      
      Unfortunately - this is probably your target audience.

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         Maddie Ruudposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Mark, I think YOU are his target audience: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/13547?page=4#post158816

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            LOL
            
            
            I think that was a technical glitch. Pretty good though - I have never seen quite that many in one go - but I couldn't work out how to clean it up and still keep the quotes from the other thread:(

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               Everyday Miraclesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               That happens to me a lot, too. I once had something on a forum that was so cut and pasted that it couldn't be read. But if I didn't crop it, it would have looked like the one of yours that Maddie linked to!

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            ralwusposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            good one. ROFLMAO

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      WeddingConsultantposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed 100%
      
      There is nothing more irritating than having someone reply to an uber long post.
      
      What's worse is when someone replies to someone's reply of an uber long post. You know what I mean?
      
      Maybe it's a good hub idea- forum etiquette at hubpages.
      
      If I may humbly add to the list of forum no-no's, it would be to hit the enter key after every sentence or two.
      
      This is generally how most forum posts get to be too long- too many enter keys are hit too frequently.

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         Everyday Miraclesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         VERY good point, WC! I think it would make a great hub. I'm willing to write it. Might be good for me considering that I'm a culprit who writes exceptionally long forum posts in general.
         
         I would like to add that the quoted point of yours applies to anywhere that we write, be it on a forum, in an e-mail or in one of our hubs. I have just as much trouble reading a hub that is made up of very short paragraphs as I do with reading a hub that is made up of huge blocks of text.
         
         Thank you for the reminder!

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         Research Analystposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I agree, I am glad that someone took the time to share on the proper way to post to the forums.

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            WeddingConsultantposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            So is there a good rule of thumb for how many times we should quote previously replies? 10? Maybe even 20 times?

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               SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I have no idea WC.

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               Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Well, I'm back from the wilderness with no internet, no mobile phone, and no TV.
               And I survived!
               
               
               
               
               No. Like I said in the original post - that's what your brain is for.
               
               @Maddie - I didn't consider Mark as my target audience - but thanks to your research skills, he is now
               
               @Blondepoet:
               Calm down - no need to fill your keyboard with sticky fluids.
               I wasn't saying anything about the length of someone's response to a forum post - just the problems caused when a poster includes replies to a post, and includes someone ELSE'S huge responses.
               
               @Whitney:
               Although HP can't directly take money from you, they theroretically  COULD juggle the precentage of advert impressions that you receive, and indirectly charge you that way :-)
               (But I'd take a guess that this wouldn't be popular.
               How's THAT for understatement

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   AEvansposted 15 years ago

   Eric are you honestly serious???? Really serious??? Wouldn't that take away from HP? One would think that some hubbers would pull there accounts and quit.

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      Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      About the fees - No.
      About deleting the unnecessary bits? - Yes.
      
      (See, that's how it's done. I deleted most of what AEvans said, and just left the relevant bit. It's pretty easy to do really )

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         AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Ahhh that is nifty , operation erase and delete.

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            mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            What will happen if we don't er sorry make any money..Will we run up a humungus debt.

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         aniketgoreposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Good thought. Its essential to save hubpages resources. I don't wanna see hubpages saying OUT of Bandwidth like twitter.

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      Whitney05posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You do realize that HP doesn't pay us right, so there isn't an actual HubPage earnings? Google, Amazon, Ebay, and Kontera pay, so HP wouldn't be able to take money away, unless they charged and it was all out of our pocket.
      
      So, to answer your question, no it wouldn't take from HP earnings. It would add to it.

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   SirDentposted 15 years ago

   He doesn't seem to be laughing AEvans.

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      mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Good idea and waste no time implementing it. Does anyone believe him ???????????????

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   Eric Graudinsposted 15 years ago

   Very Good AE!
   But you didn't delete anything.
   Have another try, and just leave the following words in the quote box:
   
   "About the fees - No.
   About deleting the unnecessary bits? - Yes."

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      GeneriqueMediaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      A clever puzzle.
      
      And for instance, this line is filler.
      
      G|M

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      SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Like this!!!!!!!!! 

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      AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Did I do it??

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         Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Almost there - you deleted the unnecessary words but left all the white space!

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            AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you Marissa for checking it.

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   Eric Graudinsposted 15 years ago

   Yes Sir Dent - Exactly like that !
   
   Well Done.
   
   Well, I'll leave you all to it now.
   I'm going somewhere for a couple of days where there probably isn't internet access.
   Hope I survive :-)

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      GeneriqueMediaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      *slaps a cable patch onto Eric* Good luck indeed.

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      SirDentposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You will make it OK.

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      sheenarobinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      LOL. I'm seriously considering myself as one who won't survive without it after tweeting for 3 days!

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   Eric Graudinsposted 15 years ago

   @ GeneriqueMedia:
   Thanks.
   But you're not really getting the point of this whole post!
   Which is to chop out the quoted bits that are not needed

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   GeneriqueMediaposted 15 years ago

   Haha, I already do that (most of the time, and at least with ever increasing regularity). I'm being a rebel.

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   darksideposted 15 years ago

   It's about time this was brought up. I was going to a few times, in fact I do believe I mentioned to a certain J.U. that great big slabs of text need not be quoted every single time. Hit post to reply generally, and if there is something specific you need to reply to so people don't lose track of the conversation, do as Mr Graudins has suggested, delete everything but the bit you're responding to.

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   badcompany99posted 15 years ago

   I was about to say that, jeeez I will be in debt.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

    I agree...
    
    Concise enough?

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    ngurecoposted 15 years ago

    Eric can bite and soothe at the same time. His message in this thread is fully loaded and well intended.

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    sheenarobinsposted 15 years ago

    Eric,
    
    Thank you for that. I couldn't possibly allow them to chunk my $1 something earnings. LOL
    
    This info you posted is actually helpful for hubpages. Thanks.

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    Everyday Miraclesposted 15 years ago

    It does help bandwidth, but it also helps readers. It's confusing to see things quoted four or five posts included in the most recent post.
    
    I also need to take into consideration what one hubber (can't remember who!) said about making it a hub if it's long enough to be one! Yikes!

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    Lifebydesignposted 15 years ago

    Good stuff Eric, I'm off to practise

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    Dame Scribeposted 15 years ago

    bc99, lol ... same here

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    Everyday Miraclesposted 15 years ago

    ROFL @ Maddie and Mark!

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    blondepoetposted 15 years ago

    Oh EG this is insane.It will never work with me I always have so much to say, I do not understand the word condensing. I know of the word Condensed Milk,mmmmmmmmm, I wish I had some right now....maybe not a real good idea my keyboard gets so sticky LMAO. See how could I have said all this to you in one sentence.This is important details I am exchanging with you

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    shreekrishnaposted 15 years ago

    damn ,
    
    this is fictitious ,
    
    eric , only wan't good answers , not unwanted ,
    
    or eiter ,
    
    he is worth trying to improve her image on hubpages.
    
    good luck,
    eric.
    
    i alredy don't post any unrelated materials.
    so ,
    if you were saying true.
    i don't want to worry about this.

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    blondepoetposted 15 years ago

    Oh Eric G you were just making this up. Ohhhhhhhhhhh. You are such a character you are you had me going.Ooooooooo. Twenty a spankings for you,over my knee you go. Would you rather I used a wooden spoon or my fly swatter. Hang on I don't have a fly swatter, my gran did.Mmmm what else can I use......will have to be a frypan

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       Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       And no doubt you'd bring your usual film crew, and end up selling this on the internet, with all your other home movies. I'm awake up to you

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          Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          well ive deleted ,now Im not sure how this is gonna submit ,oh be gentle with me Hub Police lol.
          I think it's great NOT having all those posts squished all together,and one night I called hubby over to read one of them ,and he couldnt figure out who said what ,in fact his response was "what the hell are those people on"

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    cashmereposted 15 years ago

    Fantastic idea. Totally approve of these space saving techniques!

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    mandybeauposted 15 years ago

    I know could we start a Club..... This loser sold a painting today, so I think my Art is where I will head in future. What are the Medals, I don't know if I have any, and can I wear them out in public Just joking.

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    mandybeauposted 15 years ago

    Well I as another loser will happily read it. Do you feel if we brush up on self esteem, we may cease to be losers, I might hang on to that thought. Thnx for that I was soooo down.... I have a medal for doing 100 Hubs, and having 5000 views they happened ages ago..... I can't believe I missed them. Sort of like being a War Hero, I think they call them reluctant Heroes, because they lack the ablity to see that they have done something Heroic.
    You have truly made my Day....!!!!!!!!!

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    mandybeauposted 15 years ago

    My colleagues have sat here for the last hour reading all the Hubs, they think you are " Quite a card, (I said he is a Pirate ! so dissappointing that it may be they don't think you are a Loser, you will have to try harder. Two are professional and Jacqui is a Lawyer, I tend to take advise from successful people Funny eh.. But then I am a total loser. hahahahahaha
    Sadly there some Forums, that they believed werent, worth posting. None thankfully mine, nor yours, Do you think we could be loosing the Loser touch. I am off to Work now.
    Cheers

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    mandybeauposted 15 years ago

    Eric I can see you getting on the list ease off a bit it is a scary place to be, its accidental, but you can easily find yourself there. haha just joking.

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       Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       If there's something interesting to respond to, or people to communicate with in the short time I spend here I'll do so.
       
       I don't care about where I am on some smeggin' list
       (But thanks for the warning. If I get to the top of it, do I win a pony or something ??? )

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          mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          No actually I think I just hand over the Trophy I had no idea I would receive when i got on a List, I handed actually noticed.  Its real ugly and a Dust collector.

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          mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          What does smeggin mean...???????????????

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    jcalesposted 15 years ago

    becoming green on the internet..OK now we are talking.

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    Pete Maidaposted 15 years ago

    I am wondering if this is the start of something.  There was a story on the news about Twitter preparing to charge people.  If they do I'm gone from there.  I can handle the quote thing becaue I rarely do that.  If charges start coming down for other operations I will be history.

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       mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Twitter is a pain full of twitterworms and viruses, I wouldn't touch it with a 10' disinfected Bargepole.

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       darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Source?
       
       
       
       I presume Eric is a fan of Red Dwarf: Smeg which I thought was derived from the word Smegma.

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          Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Correct

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago

    Eric why are you so bossy..???????

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       mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I agree

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       Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Bossy? Please explain ???

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