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Will I be outcasted?

  1. packerpack profile image61
    packerpackposted 8 years ago

    Hub challenge is in progress and we have a whole bunch of Hubbers busy writing Hub. They have to write more then 3 Hubs each day to complete the challenge.

    I am not participating simply because I do not have time. I write my Hub after I go back home from office and on weekends. For me it is only ONE Hub a week. I know it sounds so cheap. Here we have people writing on an average more then 21 Hubs in a week while me, it's just one ... duh and this is the cause of my worry.

    After the challenge is over we will have a new bunch of Hubbers coming out with flying colours (that is good). Everyone will be talking about them, they will be talk of the town (Hubpages). They will have huge number of Hubs in their account, huge Hub score and high reputation. They will automatically belong to a new league.

    Will that mean poor Hubbers like me will be left behind in Hub numbers (well that will definitely happen, can't help), Hub scores and reputation? Will people still bother to come to my Hub or talk to me? Will I get outcasted?

    1. Amanda Severn profile image99
      Amanda Severnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I know the feeling Packerpack. I'm trying to write more as I've done very little this year, but I can't begin to aspire to 100 in 30 days, and even 30 would be more than I can manage. If I were writing full time then, maybe. I'm aiming for 10 this month, but can see even that dwindling. Don't fret about the new writers though. Your friends here on hubpages will still remember you, and there's no reason why your hubscore should go south just because there are more hubs.

      1. packerpack profile image61
        packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Well lets hope so. Hope that I too will get some chance to share the spotlight. Great to know I am not alone. For the past few days it is only 30 day Hub challenge on the forum here. I really got scared, everyone seem to be taking part.

        1. Amanda Severn profile image99
          Amanda Severnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          My worry is that it will kill hub-pages traffic to our hubs and we will have to wait for google. That means there's no point in writing anything slight and quirky this month, as our hubbing friends are not around to read and share. So poetry is definitely out!

          1. packerpack profile image61
            packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Well yes this is what could be another problem too. I agree

          2. ajcor profile image61
            ajcorposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            but poetry is always out Amanda I have poems up that have been up for months and never been sighted by a living soul other than me - only the really interested people read poetry...

            1. Amanda Severn profile image99
              Amanda Severnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Annie, that's too sad. I must admit my poetry does less well than my other hubs, which seems a pity, but I guess not everyone shares our excellent literary taste! LOL!

              1. ajcor profile image61
                ajcorposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                ah Amanda the truth always hurts - somewhere .....lol

                1. Hawkesdream profile image71
                  Hawkesdreamposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  How about the non-challengers set up our own forum where we can notify of our hubs, where they don't get lost among the hundreds hitting our e-mail boxes? Thoughts?

                  1. goldentoad profile image60
                    goldentoadposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    I think its a good idea but I think it too late for that, we just have to ride the wave. I apologize for not reading people's hubs like I am used to, but everything of value is coming in with the gar'bawge, it's getting squished and smashed, so I don't know what's what.

                  2. packerpack profile image61
                    packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Good idea but I don't think it is gonna work because there are 66,600 Hubbers here and even if I take an exaggerated number of Hubbers who have taken the challenge, it won't go beyond 1000. So we are left with around 65,600 hubbers that have not taken the challenge (this logic was earlier suggested by Cris A). So even if 100s of this outcasted hubbers post in the thread. It will be worst then the condition of our inbox. Let it be as it is!

          3. Moonmaiden profile image82
            Moonmaidenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Poetry is it's own reward. And I'm neglecting mine. But as soon as this hubchallenge is over, I will have to pamper my poetry for a while.

    2. profile image0
      \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      how could anyone ignore the picture of the birds in a heart.... I know you are only joking, aren't you....

      1. packerpack profile image61
        packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        You actually made me smile. I swear! I have received lot of compliments on my avatar. Looks they are really good. I never thought like that.

        Well on serious note, it actually occurred to me and it is natural when you hear about something so much but cannot be a part of the same, you feel like being left behind. I thought maybe this would have occurred to other Hubbers like me and hence decided to share my feeling and know what exactly other are thinking about the whole thing.

        1. JamaGenee profile image84
          JamaGeneeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          You're not alone, packerpack. I've had much the same thoughts.

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          \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          So you were serious....... I could never attempt it at the moment, I am just not in the right frame of mind, but I love to read the ones that are having a go.........  I really do need to stop writing on here and get some hubs done...

          Just wanted to tell someone.   My son emigrated to Florida this morning..... My aunty died yesterday, so I am feeling sooooooo sad.x

          1. JamaGenee profile image84
            JamaGeneeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            So sorry for your loss, Brenda.  {{{{{HUGS}}}}}

          2. Sufidreamer profile image83
            Sufidreamerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Poor lass - that is a bit of a double whammy. sad

            Take care.

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              \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              my mum died of cancer in September, her sister who was in a nursing home in greater manchester and was close to her died 3 weeks later, in the middle of all that my grandson was diagnosed with autism, so my daughter in law went to her family in florida, and my son followed this morning..... being on this site helps, and I am working up to posting some hubs soon.....

              1. Sufidreamer profile image83
                Sufidreamerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Glad that we can help a little - it is not all arguments and abuse on here! smile

                1. Amanda Severn profile image99
                  Amanda Severnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  We're looking forward to your hubs Brenda, meantime, a big cyber hug to you. My brother emigrated to NZ many years ago, and I remember how sad it made my Mum, but the world is a much smaller place these days, and communication is so good now. I hope things brighten up for you soon.

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                    \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Thankyou for your kind words. Treating myself to a few hours on here...... I deserve it.

          3. packerpack profile image61
            packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Feeling Sorry for your loss.

        3. Hawkesdream profile image71
          Hawkesdreamposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I am still debating whether to participate or not, my e-mail box is overflowing with new hubs, will many have the time to read them all ? I have read a few and it does seem that many do read them, How do they find the time to read and to also write? not sure that I would be able to do both..still debating!

          1. packerpack profile image61
            packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Well I too think the same. I knew about some amazing people here who are regular contributors here and have dedicated themselves full time here but this 30 days brought out so many other hubbers in light whom I didn't know that they too are into full time hubbing. For me it is after office when I come back home or during weekends.

    3. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Don't worry about it dude. Most people will run out of steam and just the die hards will be left. Once it is all over, normal service will be resumed.

      I haven't even seen a single hub from Mr Hupfer yet big_smile

      1. packerpack profile image61
        packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Me too or maybe he is writing in draft and is planning to publish them in bunch!

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        C. C. Riterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Mark I read Ryan's first hub last night as it was tagged on facebook. It's a good one with pictures of his fiancee and hiring a photographer for weddings and such. Don't have the link for you. But he did one, now 99 to go. LOL he's gonna be a busy man.

      3. Rochelle Frank profile image95
        Rochelle Frankposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Actually I think Hup said he was going to publish his 100 under a different name-- it was part of the personal challenge he had with the other guy to see what would theoretically happen to a new person writing 100 in 30. We might not know which ones are his for awhile. (Most people are using their regular account.)

    4. Tom Rubenoff profile image92
      Tom Rubenoffposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'll still love your stuff, Paper.

      The things to keep in mind are still the same.  Hub quality, catchiness, length, and relevancy to search.  I'll bet this temporary dilution will not affect standings more than 5 points. Well, maybe not bet.  Guess would be a better word...

      1. packerpack profile image61
        packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        That's great and the points that you have mentioned are supposed to be kept in mind at all times and that is what I do, always. Great to know that there are still people who will not get distracted by the current pomp and show.

    5. Ryan Hupfer profile image69
      Ryan Hupferposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'll still like you, that's for sure. smile

      Don't worry about this, the Hub Challenge is just a way for all of us to have a little fun while pushing ourselves to somewhat insane limits. It's also been a great way to get some Hubbers motivated to start writing again, which is always good for the overall community in my book.

      1. packerpack profile image61
        packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I think you are the torchbearer of this challenge and I thought you will be busy like hell. But look at you, you are also posting in forum! You guys are really bond, James Bond! How many did you write today? I guess you need a break!

        BTW thanks you so much for this supportive reply. I was actually worried for the past few days but the reply here has made me feel more like home!

    6. nicomp profile image69
      nicompposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Keep using colorful words like outcasted and I'll keep reading your hubs.

    7. Pete Maida profile image61
      Pete Maidaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It is clear you write quality over quantity if you can hold a score of 97.  I've never done better than 95.

    8. wittywriter profile image60
      wittywriterposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I think this challenge is being blown out sorts. I highly doubt if hubbers who have not taken the challenge will be left to the wayside. It takes all the hubbers to make hubpages.

  2. frogdropping profile image87
    frogdroppingposted 8 years ago

    Packer - don't worry about it. Yes it's the Big Topic and it's gonna kinda get a few more mentions before the month's out. But learn from it smile Some of the hubs will be inetresting. Some may well be amusing. But I think a lot will be informative. This isn't because the objective is to write 100 or 30 hubs in a given time. It's because the onjective is to find out whether or not more hubs = more money ... therefore it's about monetising.

    By that token, I reckon the hubbers taking part will think about external viewings - which means they will need to create tag-rich hubs, designed to be picked up beyond the borders of hubpages. Plus of course they will promoting externally, via twitter and such. I think we'll see some rather clever hubs being published in the next few weeks.

    Chin up ... it will all be over when the fat lady sings and we may well be better off for the challenge. We may learn Something big_smile

    1. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      O yes I completely agree. This will definitely be a very good learning experience. The knowledge base that Hubpages is will become even more strong. I am really happy for all those great writers taking part in it. It will be good for them, for us and for Hubpages as whole. All I am worried about if I will be left behind just because I do not find time write so much.

    2. lbtrader profile image58
      lbtraderposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I always think external viewing....i also always prefer objective to subjective when i write or basically when i do anything in life nowadays.....i've worried to often about being the outcast..subjective assessments have cost me millions in wages..the only true value of anything is the objective...That is why i like forex and trading since those who succeed are not reduced by the subjective beliefs of those who can't and preach unfairly those who can...it's one of those things, those rare times in life where you actually get paid what you are truly worth. I figure my hubs are a study which might even lead me to some good investments. Making money with adsense seems to me to be a pipe dream...i make about 2 bucks a day.

  3. cashmere profile image82
    cashmereposted 8 years ago

    No you will not be outcasted. In fact i look forward to quality over quantity. All the best for your next informative hub. Am still struggling with your SEO one by the way.

    1. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      O so sorry dear. I think I should have written in more juicy language. But now that it is already written, I would suggest you to write to me about any problem that I can help solve for you. Anything at all, just write to me and I will try my level best to explain things to you.

  4. charanjeet kaur profile image60
    charanjeet kaurposted 8 years ago

    Lol and i thought i was the only one, i felt im already finding my way out and this hub challenge added to my misery. I agree we have lives, a home, a career, and hubs seems to be my passion but somehow the lack of time gets me less popular if that is what it is called here. But paperpack believe in goodness, i think we should hub because we believe in them and trust me viewwers will come. As for the challenge i admire the hubbers who took part, takes lot of effort and time to do what they do i will be there cheering and wishing them good. Gives me more the reason to write hubs....

    1. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Another addition to NON 30 day Hub challenge Hubbers.

  5. Cris A profile image58
    Cris Aposted 8 years ago

    And do keep in mind that there are about 66,500 hubbers cool

    1. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hey buddy where did you get that count from??

      1. Cris A profile image58
        Cris Aposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Click the Hubbers button on the the top panel. You'll see the figure cool

        1. packerpack profile image61
          packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Ok great, never quite saw that count before or maybe I never paid attention.

  6. Cris A profile image58
    Cris Aposted 8 years ago

    Do you know how many actually have joined the challenge? Or at least an idea perhaps? cool

    1. charanjeet kaur profile image60
      charanjeet kaurposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Good question i was myself wondering the same thing is it possible to get a number?

      1. Cris A profile image58
        Cris Aposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        And if we're to peg their number at a thousand (which is way too much), there are at least 65,500 hubbers who did not join. And with that number I would say we are not outcasted. cool

        1. packerpack profile image61
          packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Good mathematics.

          1. Cris A profile image58
            Cris Aposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            LOL thanks cool

        2. profile image0
          \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I love you ha ha

          1. Cris A profile image58
            Cris Aposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Lurve ya back! cool

    2. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry I don't know that. But we have a thread from Ryan Hupfer which announced the challenge. Who so ever joined this challenge have replied there. It has 593 now. But I don't know if any official figure has been announced. sad

  7. SweetiePie profile image82
    SweetiePieposted 8 years ago

    packerpack,

    Do not feel bad if other people are talked about more or admired, as I am sure you have fans and do not even realize it.  When it comes to writing more hubs just focus on doing that for yourself, and not worrying about what other people are doing.  The best and most healthy way is to just think tank about yourself.  Years ago I finally stopped analyzing what others thought about me, or comparing myself to others because that is a contest you can never win.

    1. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That was a great piece of advice. Actually this is what I am, I prefer to be myself and generally do not care for what others are doing so long it do not affect me but I don't know what happened this time. Maybe I lack experience in such community. Well I still need to learn lot more things like this. Thanks Sweetie!!

  8. Eaglekiwi profile image79
    Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago

    Well to be honest I like writing but not under pressure.
    I prefer the gentle river to the rushing ocean.

    And another thing ,I will probably be shot down for asking this
    but are their other places that pay more for one off articles?

    Does Hubpages work for Google?

    I just cant figure out if say one of my hubs has the "potential" to earn $18 but I get 7c

    1. SweetiePie profile image82
      SweetiePieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      In my experience writing a hub on Hubpages has resulted in the most views and ad revenue compared to other sites such as squidoo.com and ehow.com.  However, you could try writing on those websites too if you want to experiment and see how things go.  It sounds like you might be interested in also selling articles online, so maybe you should check out the site elance.com.  A few of the hubbers are selling their articles their I believe.

  9. goldentoad profile image60
    goldentoadposted 8 years ago

    I have outcasted myself.

    1. Hawkesdream profile image71
      Hawkesdreamposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I don't blame you GT , I have decided to do the same, seems like everyone is so busy on the challenge and we are so busy reading that not many people have the time for anything else.

    2. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      big_smile big_smile That is a cool attitude. Seems you have taken a chill pill!

    3. Moonmaiden profile image82
      Moonmaidenposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You crack me up. A salute to anarchists everywhere.

  10. AEvans profile image78
    AEvansposted 8 years ago

    You certainly will not be left behind, I am only doing 1 a day as I am challenging myself and that seems to be a mild chore. lololo.big_smile Sometimes it takes me hours just to research the information unless I have knowledge about it, I don't know how they are writing 3,4,5 hubs per day but I give them credit but I don't know how they do it. I am busy working on a book and working full-time, dealing with family etc. We won't forget you as you are a great writer so don't worry about that. smile

    1. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My condition is exactly like you. But I cannot even challenge myself. I am actually very busy with my office work. I try to sit everyday after I come back home but not everyday it is possible. Sometimes I really get very tired or sometimes it is just a lazy feeling wink

  11. marisuewrites profile image57
    marisuewritesposted 8 years ago

    My mailbox is running over with hubs I can't read...LOL  I wonder if this is going to be as good as first thought...all the diligent readers are diligently writing...

    I write a lot, but can't do this -- somewhere there is dinner and job and my other 35 websites.  ahah
    well, it will be an interesting venture...as it evolves.  smile

    1. Ryan Hupfer profile image69
      Ryan Hupferposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, it's a lot of emails, that's for sure. haha

      It might cut out some reading from within our community momentarily, but in the end it's going to bring in SO many more readers from outside of our community, which is awesome.

  12. SweetiePie profile image82
    SweetiePieposted 8 years ago

    Writing a few extra hubs this month does not mean we have to keep up and read every hub published right away.  I will be honest, I write what I can and read what I can.  However, I think it is great to sometimes write a shorter hub to begin with, and then come back and edit later.  This way your hub can begin get search engine traffic, and then you can always think about what you might want to add.  So far this is a fun experiment.

  13. aidenofthetower profile image83
    aidenofthetowerposted 8 years ago

    I didn't read through all of the responses so I may be repeating something that others have said. But there are a number things I wanted to comment on.

    First, the Hub community is a friendly and understanding one. I doubt there will be any "outcasting". We all understand if you are too busy. After all, writing good hubs takes a lot of work and a lot of time and if you are working a full time job, that makes it a lot more work! Good for you writing a hub a week! I know that I haven't always been that consistent.

    While everyone will be talking about the challenge and the people who took it for a little while...that is relatively a short lived thing. Sure people will be excited, but not for long. I wouldn't worry about it.

    People will still go to your hubs. It should also be noted that it works best for earning money to have search engine traffic find your hubs rather then other hubbers (after all most of us don't click on each other's ads).

    Finally, your hubscore is a good one! It isn't going to be effected by what others do because it is based on what you do and what goes on in your own statistics. A few of the things it is based on is how often you write, the scores of your articles (the better your articles the better your score), and a number of other number crunching things. All in all, what other people do or don't do isn't going to change that (you should see fluctuations like normal).

    Anyway...I would encourage you to keep up your good work and not worry about what you can't possibly do because you don't have the time. Give it 45 days and most of the talk of amazing numbers will be a thing of the past (if not all of it).

    1. packerpack profile image61
      packerpackposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      O yes you are correct. I know that my score depends on my activity. But questions kept coming but now it is all cool. All because of great buddies like you. You guys are great (it is nothing new).

  14. Paper Moon profile image78
    Paper Moonposted 8 years ago

    To me it is all about the content.  Some hubbers have high following, but have great content.  Hubbers I admire, posting 3 to 4 hubs a day?  Probably wont have time to read them.  The ones cranking out the same as they have been,  I am trying to get to.  So I for one will not follow the elitists just because they crank.  Some of their hubs are lonely without many readers.  I admire them for trying, but no worshiping.  So do what you do and keep on doing it.  smile

  15. Eaglekiwi profile image79
    Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago

    Id be curious how many members actually belong to Hubpages?

    and maybe we could have other challenges too, fun, relaxed

    Like um , June is Comedy month
              July History
              August Short Stories
              September Poems

    Optional only of course

    Prizes yea who doesnt love a prize!

    1. Pete Maida profile image61
      Pete Maidaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I like those ideas.  I've never written comedy; that would be a real challenge.  I am still pushing Paper Moon's Hubs for Peace; there is no downside to writing for peace; except maybe a hubber won't make much money on it.  I think we can sacrifice one unprofitable hub for the cause.

    2. Raven King profile image60
      Raven Kingposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That sounds like a plan!  Ooooh I love prizes!
      big_smile

  16. lbtrader profile image58
    lbtraderposted 8 years ago

    i like that idea Eaglekiwi....i'm already snipping all the short stories out of readers digest as a game plan...

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image79
      Eaglekiwiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol sorry its already been done, or has it

  17. Whitney05 profile image83
    Whitney05posted 8 years ago

    Google and search engine traffic is the important traffic anyway.

    I'll admit I need just 4 more for my 30 goal, but I'm losing steam, as I keep thinking about all the good topics I've published within a week that could have lasted me two months worth is spread out right. I really would like to go for 100, but the more I write the more I think about how many months of topics that could have been.

  18. profile image0
    Adam Bposted 8 years ago

    No owrries about being left behind...most people will write hubs that are essentially a bunch of pictures of girls.  I don't get the point...but whatever.  I like to think I strive for quality not quantity.

    I don't need to see hubs titled: More Hindi Girls, Actresses in Bikinis and things of that nature.

  19. Eaglekiwi profile image79
    Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago

    oh they were just off the top of my head ideas
    Im sure you guys would have heaps more too.

  20. Eaglekiwi profile image79
    Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago

    ok listen up Hubpages
    We would like  prizes please

    suggestions hubbers?
    me ,make mine money ( though I see on the fast food forum ,Im the bad food eater ,so Ill settle for pizza too lol)

 
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