Get rid of the top 10 forum posters list please!

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   Marisa Wrightposted 15 years ago

   The "Top 10" forum posters is a recently introduced feature and I'd like to request it gets removed again, please!
   
   Eer since it was introduced, I've noticed a big increase in people posting one-line or even one-word responses in topics, obviously just for the sake of posting.  It's extremely annoying, when you're trying to catch up with a thread, to read through pages of dross in order to find posts that are actually discussing the topic!
   
   I was reading a Hub which commented on the recent tone of the forums, which has been more argumentative than it used to be - and it was suggested that the "top 10" league table had encouraged that, because people know that if they're controversial, they'll generate more interest and therefore be able to post more.
   
   I can't see the benefit in it, and it seems to me the only outcome is negative - so how about canning it?

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      Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Haven't you heard the news Marisa.
      
      The "top 10" feature has been specially installed so people can keep track of their progress on the next big  HubPages challenge:
      
      30,000 FORUM POSTS IN 30 DAYS !!
      
      And seeing as you have only 1,700 after 2 years here, you better get your act together girl!
      
      Eric G.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!

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            Cris Aposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            @Marisa
            I think you just posted a one-word response. And it's not even a word! LOL

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      mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Its immaterial, Its up there to show whose participating, Afterall nothing discussed here is exactly earthshattering unless you have a fairly er quiet life. So why worry about the precious threads.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         The threads aren't precious, I never said they were. I don't care if they're light-hearted, funny, serious, tragic - so long as they're SOMETHING.   
         
         You may be sensible enough to find the "top ten" immaterial, but it's obvious from the way some people react, that others succumb to the lure of competition, with regrettable results.
         
         And to clarify once again, Darkside said it very well:
         
         
         
         That doesn't mean that I'm accusing any individual who is currently on the list of indulging in such childish behaviour. I dont even know who is currently on the list.  I haven't even really noticed who is posting inane comments most often - maybe they're trying and failing to get on the list, for all I know.  But there's no doubt that the incidence of meaningless comments on the forum has risen steeply since the list was introduced.  And since there's no point, why bother having it?

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      SunSevenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Oh! Its still there Marisa, even after 2 years.

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   Lissieposted 15 years ago

   Totally agree with you Marisa - WTF anyone wants to be on the list is beyond me - but they do and its really messing up the quality of the forums

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      darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It's so life's losers can feel like winners.
      
      Do you really want to take that away from them Lissie? I mean, what will they be left with if they don't have have that remarkable achievement as the only fuel in their fire of self-worth?

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         mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         What did you say you did for a profession Darkside???????????? wasn't sure. Obviously not something too out there hahaha

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            darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            It's funny that a self proclaimed bitch who reckons she can take it as well as she can give it can get her nose out of joint because a few people think that the top 10 forum lists are causing people to compete for the top place, thus creating a lot of worthless noise.
            
            By actually trying to draw my personal/professional life into it displays what a very small person you are.

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               mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Whatever I am actually 182 tall, which for a female is rather Big hahahah

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         Lissieposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Well its a charitable point Darkside - but I thought that was what facebook and myspace was for?

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            mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Totally sad if you bother with either of these sites.

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               darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I didn't realise that your opinion was worth more than anyone elses. But here you are expressing it, while denigrating others for having their own.
               
               
               What's more worthless, the self-esteem of people who celebrate being on a top ten list or my opinion of them?

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                  mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh, your opinion it doesn't really matter, you won't stop my chances of going to Royal Ascot.

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                  mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh, your opinion it doesn't really matter, you won't stop my chances of going to Royal Ascot.

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   KCC Big Countryposted 15 years ago

   I agree.  Who cares how many times someone has posted to a forum?  That's like applauding those who use the letter "k" in their hubs the most. 

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      Elena.posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Hear, hear. Here's another vote to can it, if votes are counted.  I don't know if it encouraged argumentative behaviors, or people to post one liners. Either way, I just don't see the purpose.

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   Herald Dailyposted 15 years ago

   Okay, this saves me asking what the purpose of that list is.  I was wondering if i was supposed to be vieing for the number one spot or something.

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      mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I think they are er trying to get rid of me hahah
      Mandybeau or maybe I am paranoid.
      I have never got on with Geeks, so I only interchange if someone is interesting and I'd know. Go on take that seriously.

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   Jerry G2posted 15 years ago

   I agree with ya'll - while the idea behind top ten lists is generally noble, I've never found them to work out as intended.

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   Jewelsposted 15 years ago

   Ahem, cough cough.  Where does one find the list?

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      KCC Big Countryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It's located at the bottom of the weekly newsletter email.  It shows the top 10 with the most forum posts.

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         Janettaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I didn't even know there was such a thing.  I need to get out more

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   Cris Aposted 15 years ago

   If not for the buzz, I say they're after the medals!

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   sunstreeksposted 15 years ago

   Adding my vote in that it serves little purpose

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   goldentoadposted 15 years ago

   just here to give myself a boost.

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      KCC Big Countryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      *hands GT a stack of phonebooks*

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    Feline Prophetposted 15 years ago

    There's a list like that?!!!

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       Cris Aposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Click Forums, then click Hubbers Hangout (for example). Before you select a thread, you can find the "Most Active Hubbers List" on the right side. Go check it
       
       or click this link http://hubpages.com/forum/1 it's on the right side

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          Feline Prophetposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          You live and learn! Thanks Chris!

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    icewave5posted 15 years ago

    lol i support it.

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       mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       The 10 on the List are not Spammers  Icewave. its so stupid. it does nothing. its just a list.

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    icewave5posted 15 years ago

    whoops wrong thread..

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    VioletSunposted 15 years ago

    Didn't know this list existed!  Doesn't serve a purpose  me, as I am not interested in being a top 10 poster, but do wish I was a more productive writer. I am assuming Hubpages management wants to encourage active participation in the forums as it affects Hubpages' rank in the search engines?

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    frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

    Darkside - and anyone else that believes all on the list are here for glory - I see I'm on it. I looked because my attention was drawn to it.
    
    I don't use the forum to become a member of a top ten list. It's a horrible generalisation and indicative of the current mood.

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       mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Let him have his pathetic opinion, I am sure that out there in the Big Wide World it counts for nought.
       I'm cracking up these people are sooo predictable.

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       darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       By the looks of it I'm on at least 1 top ten list.
       
       I'm not criticising people for being on it. I'm at a loss to understand why anyone would strive to rank highly on it.

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          JamaGeneeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Most of us don't strive to get on the lists. Those who are most active in the forums because they like to participate in the discussions end up on the lists by default, not by design.

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             mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Precisely, get rid off it who gives a toss.

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    MotherHubberposted 15 years ago

    k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k k

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       JamaGeneeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Good one, MH!

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       VioletSunposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       LOL! Good one.

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    JamaGeneeposted 15 years ago

    Seriously... I don't post in the forums to get a higher spot in the "Most Active in this Forum" lists.
    
    For that matter, why have Personal Hub Scores?  Or scores on hubs?  In the end, they're just numbers that generate a bit of competition among hubbers to make us work harder to put $$ in HP's coffers and sometimes our own.

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       mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       The Forums I would imagine are there to participate in, I do them for brief stints in between my work. You have to do very little to actually get on there. I don't waste time on something unless I am having fun. There is no glory in being on a stupid list. I just thought that it showed who was online.

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       Lissieposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thats a side effect - not the purpose. You can pretty much guarantee that any hub with a score of 100 is getting consistent and significant search engine traffic. You will see a number of hub authors with 100 scores who never post in the forums - their score is high because their hubs score is high. The reason HP rewards the high scores with links from "best" pages - they make both the authors and HP money

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    frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

    Mandybeau - I don't mind what Darkside said. Someone was going to say it. I just prefer opinions to be a little more considered and less general.
    
    But I'm sure someone will think - or even post - the following "if it walks like a duck ... "
    
    And Jama - yup.

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    frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

    Darkside - that's different. I understand that. I don't mean the striving, I mean your reasons for your statement. I'm sure however, that some are on it as a by-product.
    
    And as it appears to cause consternation - whatever your personal opinion of it - I also think it should be removed.

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       mandybeauposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Yes pahleez get rid of it, while I am still on the top Sorry sarcasm.

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    badcompany99posted 15 years ago

    I actually am high on he list and to be fair to Darkside a lot of my postings have been a load of shit but my intention was not to reach a top 10 but just to have a laugh.
    
    I joined this website because the last writing site I was on had a lot of this bitching so I left. Dark it's wrong to call people losers mate when you don't even know what they do for a living. And Mandy Dark is entitled to his opinions no matter what.
    
    I have found Hubs to be a great site and I hope you guys wise up and cut all the bitching. The previous site I was on is now so boring it attracts nobody and well although a lot on here like to be serious a bit of fun does no harm.
    
    As for myself if my bullshit has annoyed or offended anyone then I can only say sorry. But I am no loser Darkside and you  seem like a nice kind of guy so your remark surprised me. I hope you all sort it out, deff a great site, don't ruin it with petty arguments. Don't bother replying, I won't be here !
    
    Take Care !

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       Connie Smithposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Obviously, I can't read since I am replying, lol.  I sure hope that doesn't mean you are giving up hubpages, Bad.  That would be a crazy thing to do for a few differences of opinion.  I should think the main goal (as you know I'm new to hubpages) is for the hubs and you have that going on.  I, too, have thought that most people here are very nice and I can deff say that all are nicer (in comments) than what I've seen on some forums.

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       darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       There's no need for you to take personally anything I've said. Read over what I've posted.
       
       Here's the readers digest version:
       
       The purpose of this thread, from what I can gather, is that the Top 10 Forum Poster Lists have become a competition. The result is some people posting a lot of crap, just to get on those lists.
       
       My point is, if you're not striving to be on the Top 10 List then you're not a loser.

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    frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

    Connie - Badco will likely be fine after he's blown some steam

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    Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

    To tell you the truth, I never knew such a list existed until Mandy started a thread saying she was number 1.
    
    Now that I know about it, I certainly won't keep checking it. I post on the forums when I have something to say. It is rather sad if being one of the top 10 posters on the forum means something to you.
    
    And when people defend filling the forums with crap I point them to the Triond forum...we don't want HubPages to end up like that...

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    Whitney05posted 15 years ago

    They don't bother me. I just post to whatever I want, not worrying about the stats of it all.
    
    But, I have noticed more people with few hubs or more new people have been spamming up the forums with arguments in nearly every thread. It's enough to stay out of the forums because you can't say everything without certain people pitching fits and needing their midol.
    
    I have noticed more people
    1. posting multiple replies to either the same comment, quoting the same material each time but posting two or more replies
    2. quoting multiple people and posting multiple posts to each person
    3. quoting someone and then submitting their own reply within the quote and then submitting another post to reply again to the same material.
    4. quoting the entire conversation multiple times.
    
    There's an edit button for a reason.. It only lasts for so long, but it's plenty long enough to edit and add more info to your first reply, especially when the same people are doing all of the above things within the same minute or two.

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       badcompany99posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I have been guilty of a few of these but mainly due to my inexperience of replying to a quote which as you can see I have worked out now and will deff not be doing anymore.
       
       In reply to Darkside no my aim is not to reach any top 10, my aim is to make money with adsense which with that I guess I can be called a Loser but I am starting my hubs all over again with some good advice given to me on these very forums.
       
       Just curious Whitney, does Midol work for men ?

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          Whitney05posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          It's not that hard to pay attention to where the cursor is and the edit button, in most cases that is. Otherwise, yea it does work for men, but not for the same thing. I have seen more females causing issues than men though. Maybe the men can just take an anxiety pill or something.

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             badcompany99posted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Well I know now and I am glad this topic was posted because it has made me rethink my aims on here and my style of writing as well. So all I can say is thanks.

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                MangoGirlposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                you seen your medal yet?

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       Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Whitney, that expresses in more detail exactly what I mean.  I think one of the reasons they do it, is because they misunderstand what HubPages is about. You can see that by the fact that they're so active on the forums and aren't writing Hubs.  In the past, I've PM'd a couple and discovered they thought their forum posts also earned money! 
       
       IMO the fact that there's a league table only encourages them to think there's something to be gained by scoring high in the forums. 
       
       Badcompany, I don't think you're a loser (I'm here to earn money too) and I can't see how you thought Darkside's comments were meant to imply that.

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          Whitney05posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I don't pay much attention to the medals, but since you said something, I went and checked out what it was for in my hubtivity, but couldn't find it. No big deal. The medals don't do anything anyway.
          
          
          
          I think that there is too much emphasis on forum posting. If more people focused as much energy in their hubs as they do on the forums, we'd had tons more high quality hubs floating around, that has much more potential of earning when compared to the $0.00 of posting in the forums.
          
          What forum pays you to post? I'd like to join that one. Ha

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             Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I could make a fortune.

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             darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Usually heavily sponsored adult webmaster forums.
             
             About 5 cents per post.

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          badcompany99posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Cheers Marisa and I think I just misunderstood Darkside but it's forgotten now and am spending more time now trying to improve my hubs.

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    shreekrishnaposted 15 years ago

    i think in place of removing ,
    hubpages should also set an tough algorithm on how the hubbers should be ranked for their postings.
    
    according to me it presently ranks only on the number of posts written by members.

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    badcompany99posted 15 years ago

    Yes must say I was overwhelmed with excitement at an icon on a computer screen, I would much prefer $$$

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    Pete Maidaposted 15 years ago

    Please not another challenge.  At list if it is a forum challenge it would fill up my inbox.  I just won't look at hubtivity any more.

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       Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Wait till you see the next one that they're planning.
       I believe its 30,000 forum posts in 30 days

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    Marisa Wrightposted 15 years ago

    Eric, are you and Pete twins?

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       Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       No, we're the same person - like Blondepoet and Blondpoet

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    kmartelposted 15 years ago

    I agree with either removing this list or simply requiring a minimum word content (like what they require in Helium : 3000 words!) to keep the posts high in quality and get rid of all the one-liners!

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    No, please, not 3000 words forum posts

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 15 years ago

    I think there's a belief out there that everytime you post, it's more links to your profile page and it gets a better page rank to pass on to your links.
    
    I think that's also the fascination for some with the Top 10 list - and any of the other things here that recognize people.
    
    You can tell from my meager number of posts, that I'm not one of them that worries about this.

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