The "Top 10" forum posters is a recently introduced feature and I'd like to request it gets removed again, please!
Eer since it was introduced, I've noticed a big increase in people posting one-line or even one-word responses in topics, obviously just for the sake of posting. It's extremely annoying, when you're trying to catch up with a thread, to read through pages of dross in order to find posts that are actually discussing the topic!
I was reading a Hub which commented on the recent tone of the forums, which has been more argumentative than it used to be - and it was suggested that the "top 10" league table had encouraged that, because people know that if they're controversial, they'll generate more interest and therefore be able to post more.
I can't see the benefit in it, and it seems to me the only outcome is negative - so how about canning it?
Haven't you heard the news Marisa.
The "top 10" feature has been specially installed so people can keep track of their progress on the next big HubPages challenge:
30,000 FORUM POSTS IN 30 DAYS !!
And seeing as you have only 1,700 after 2 years here, you better get your act together girl!
Its immaterial, Its up there to show whose participating, Afterall nothing discussed here is exactly earthshattering unless you have a fairly er quiet life. So why worry about the precious threads.
The threads aren't precious, I never said they were. I don't care if they're light-hearted, funny, serious, tragic - so long as they're SOMETHING.
You may be sensible enough to find the "top ten" immaterial, but it's obvious from the way some people react, that others succumb to the lure of competition, with regrettable results.
And to clarify once again, Darkside said it very well:
That doesn't mean that I'm accusing any individual who is currently on the list of indulging in such childish behaviour. I dont even know who is currently on the list. I haven't even really noticed who is posting inane comments most often - maybe they're trying and failing to get on the list, for all I know. But there's no doubt that the incidence of meaningless comments on the forum has risen steeply since the list was introduced. And since there's no point, why bother having it?
Oh! Its still there Marisa, even after 2 years.
Totally agree with you Marisa - WTF anyone wants to be on the list is beyond me - but they do and its really messing up the quality of the forums
It's so life's losers can feel like winners.
Do you really want to take that away from them Lissie? I mean, what will they be left with if they don't have have that remarkable achievement as the only fuel in their fire of self-worth?
What did you say you did for a profession Darkside???????????? wasn't sure. Obviously not something too out there hahaha
It's funny that a self proclaimed bitch who reckons she can take it as well as she can give it can get her nose out of joint because a few people think that the top 10 forum lists are causing people to compete for the top place, thus creating a lot of worthless noise.
By actually trying to draw my personal/professional life into it displays what a very small person you are.
Well its a charitable point Darkside - but I thought that was what facebook and myspace was for?
Totally sad if you bother with either of these sites.
I didn't realise that your opinion was worth more than anyone elses. But here you are expressing it, while denigrating others for having their own.
What's more worthless, the self-esteem of people who celebrate being on a top ten list or my opinion of them?
Oh, your opinion it doesn't really matter, you won't stop my chances of going to Royal Ascot.
Oh, your opinion it doesn't really matter, you won't stop my chances of going to Royal Ascot.
I agree. Who cares how many times someone has posted to a forum? That's like applauding those who use the letter "k" in their hubs the most.
Okay, this saves me asking what the purpose of that list is. I was wondering if i was supposed to be vieing for the number one spot or something.
I agree with ya'll - while the idea behind top ten lists is generally noble, I've never found them to work out as intended.
Click Forums, then click Hubbers Hangout (for example). Before you select a thread, you can find the "Most Active Hubbers List" on the right side. Go check it
or click this link http://hubpages.com/forum/1 it's on the right side
Didn't know this list existed! Doesn't serve a purpose me, as I am not interested in being a top 10 poster, but do wish I was a more productive writer. I am assuming Hubpages management wants to encourage active participation in the forums as it affects Hubpages' rank in the search engines?
Darkside - and anyone else that believes all on the list are here for glory - I see I'm on it. I looked because my attention was drawn to it.
I don't use the forum to become a member of a top ten list. It's a horrible generalisation and indicative of the current mood.
Let him have his pathetic opinion, I am sure that out there in the Big Wide World it counts for nought.
I'm cracking up these people are sooo predictable.
By the looks of it I'm on at least 1 top ten list.
I'm not criticising people for being on it. I'm at a loss to understand why anyone would strive to rank highly on it.
Most of us don't strive to get on the lists. Those who are most active in the forums because they like to participate in the discussions end up on the lists by default, not by design.
Seriously... I don't post in the forums to get a higher spot in the "Most Active in this Forum" lists.
For that matter, why have Personal Hub Scores? Or scores on hubs? In the end, they're just numbers that generate a bit of competition among hubbers to make us work harder to put $$ in HP's coffers and sometimes our own.
The Forums I would imagine are there to participate in, I do them for brief stints in between my work. You have to do very little to actually get on there. I don't waste time on something unless I am having fun. There is no glory in being on a stupid list. I just thought that it showed who was online.
Thats a side effect - not the purpose. You can pretty much guarantee that any hub with a score of 100 is getting consistent and significant search engine traffic. You will see a number of hub authors with 100 scores who never post in the forums - their score is high because their hubs score is high. The reason HP rewards the high scores with links from "best" pages - they make both the authors and HP money
Mandybeau - I don't mind what Darkside said. Someone was going to say it. I just prefer opinions to be a little more considered and less general.
But I'm sure someone will think - or even post - the following "if it walks like a duck ... "
And Jama - yup.
Darkside - that's different. I understand that. I don't mean the striving, I mean your reasons for your statement. I'm sure however, that some are on it as a by-product.
And as it appears to cause consternation - whatever your personal opinion of it - I also think it should be removed.
I actually am high on he list and to be fair to Darkside a lot of my postings have been a load of shit but my intention was not to reach a top 10 but just to have a laugh.
I joined this website because the last writing site I was on had a lot of this bitching so I left. Dark it's wrong to call people losers mate when you don't even know what they do for a living. And Mandy Dark is entitled to his opinions no matter what.
I have found Hubs to be a great site and I hope you guys wise up and cut all the bitching. The previous site I was on is now so boring it attracts nobody and well although a lot on here like to be serious a bit of fun does no harm.
As for myself if my bullshit has annoyed or offended anyone then I can only say sorry. But I am no loser Darkside and you seem like a nice kind of guy so your remark surprised me. I hope you all sort it out, deff a great site, don't ruin it with petty arguments. Don't bother replying, I won't be here !
Take Care !
Obviously, I can't read since I am replying, lol. I sure hope that doesn't mean you are giving up hubpages, Bad. That would be a crazy thing to do for a few differences of opinion. I should think the main goal (as you know I'm new to hubpages) is for the hubs and you have that going on. I, too, have thought that most people here are very nice and I can deff say that all are nicer (in comments) than what I've seen on some forums.
There's no need for you to take personally anything I've said. Read over what I've posted.
Here's the readers digest version:
The purpose of this thread, from what I can gather, is that the Top 10 Forum Poster Lists have become a competition. The result is some people posting a lot of crap, just to get on those lists.
My point is, if you're not striving to be on the Top 10 List then you're not a loser.
Connie - Badco will likely be fine after he's blown some steam
To tell you the truth, I never knew such a list existed until Mandy started a thread saying she was number 1.
Now that I know about it, I certainly won't keep checking it. I post on the forums when I have something to say. It is rather sad if being one of the top 10 posters on the forum means something to you.
And when people defend filling the forums with crap I point them to the Triond forum...we don't want HubPages to end up like that...
They don't bother me. I just post to whatever I want, not worrying about the stats of it all.
But, I have noticed more people with few hubs or more new people have been spamming up the forums with arguments in nearly every thread. It's enough to stay out of the forums because you can't say everything without certain people pitching fits and needing their midol.
I have noticed more people
1. posting multiple replies to either the same comment, quoting the same material each time but posting two or more replies
2. quoting multiple people and posting multiple posts to each person
3. quoting someone and then submitting their own reply within the quote and then submitting another post to reply again to the same material.
4. quoting the entire conversation multiple times.
There's an edit button for a reason.. It only lasts for so long, but it's plenty long enough to edit and add more info to your first reply, especially when the same people are doing all of the above things within the same minute or two.
I have been guilty of a few of these but mainly due to my inexperience of replying to a quote which as you can see I have worked out now and will deff not be doing anymore.
In reply to Darkside no my aim is not to reach any top 10, my aim is to make money with adsense which with that I guess I can be called a Loser but I am starting my hubs all over again with some good advice given to me on these very forums.
Just curious Whitney, does Midol work for men ?
It's not that hard to pay attention to where the cursor is and the edit button, in most cases that is. Otherwise, yea it does work for men, but not for the same thing. I have seen more females causing issues than men though. Maybe the men can just take an anxiety pill or something.
Thanks Whitney, that expresses in more detail exactly what I mean. I think one of the reasons they do it, is because they misunderstand what HubPages is about. You can see that by the fact that they're so active on the forums and aren't writing Hubs. In the past, I've PM'd a couple and discovered they thought their forum posts also earned money!
IMO the fact that there's a league table only encourages them to think there's something to be gained by scoring high in the forums.
Badcompany, I don't think you're a loser (I'm here to earn money too) and I can't see how you thought Darkside's comments were meant to imply that.
I don't pay much attention to the medals, but since you said something, I went and checked out what it was for in my hubtivity, but couldn't find it. No big deal. The medals don't do anything anyway.
I think that there is too much emphasis on forum posting. If more people focused as much energy in their hubs as they do on the forums, we'd had tons more high quality hubs floating around, that has much more potential of earning when compared to the $0.00 of posting in the forums.
What forum pays you to post? I'd like to join that one. Ha
Cheers Marisa and I think I just misunderstood Darkside but it's forgotten now and am spending more time now trying to improve my hubs.
i think in place of removing ,
hubpages should also set an tough algorithm on how the hubbers should be ranked for their postings.
according to me it presently ranks only on the number of posts written by members.
Yes must say I was overwhelmed with excitement at an icon on a computer screen, I would much prefer $$$
Please not another challenge. At list if it is a forum challenge it would fill up my inbox. I just won't look at hubtivity any more.
I agree with either removing this list or simply requiring a minimum word content (like what they require in Helium : 3000 words!) to keep the posts high in quality and get rid of all the one-liners!
I think there's a belief out there that everytime you post, it's more links to your profile page and it gets a better page rank to pass on to your links.
I think that's also the fascination for some with the Top 10 list - and any of the other things here that recognize people.
You can tell from my meager number of posts, that I'm not one of them that worries about this.
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